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    1. [Redruth] Celtic Custom
    2. Bette Perrin
    3. Dear Pat, I wanted to take a moment to thank you for the tid bits of Celtic Customs you have been sending to the list. I have been reading them with interest. People, like you, who take the time to share their knowledge and interests with the rest of the group will make this list grow and flourish. Thanks again and Happy Easter to all. Bette in Ottawa

    04/19/2003 08:43:53
    1. [Redruth] Easter Eve, Holy Saturday
    2. Pat Connors
    3. from the Chronicles of Celtic Custom by Brian Day CELTIC. Hard-boiled eggs (or Paschal (Passion Lamb) Eggs) are decorated today or rolled down slopes to see which will get furthest. It is a sign of good luck to come for those whose egg-shells remain intact. The Church adopted this custom of egg-rolling and taught that it symbolised the rollowing away of the stone which closed Christ's tomb. Well-worship, water spirits and water rituals are associated with Easter Eve and Easter Day, a pagan survival integrated into later Church blessings. -- Pat Connors, Sacramento CA http://www.connorsgenealogy.com All outgoing mail virus free, scanned by Norton 2002

    04/19/2003 04:44:21
    1. [Redruth] Good Friday
    2. Pat Connors
    3. from the Chronicles of Celtic Customs by Brian Day CELTIC. On this day of commemoration of the crucifixion of Christ, solemnity, devotion and fasting were the rule in Catholic Ireland, whereas in other areas the mood varied from subdued to festive according to how far Catholic strictures had been relaxed since the Reformation. Generally no work was done except seed-planting, for which the day was auspicious. Church bells tolled at 3 pm, the reputed hour of Christ's death. Altars were cleared of all adornments and no decorations except yew were allowed in the church, yew symbolising mourning. Before the Reformation some churches even took down their crucifix, and replaced it on Easter Sunday. No meat was eaten, even in Protestant areas, but fish and shellfish were allowed. Until the 16th century every Friday and Saturday were fish only days, after that it was Friday only by individual choice. The eating of hotcross buns for breakfast occurred only in areas of English settlement or influence. In former times Judas effigies were exhibited in the streets and then burned. It may be that this custom is a Church substitution for an older pagan ritual of the burning of a scapegoat. In contrast, there were also parades with effigies of Christ nailed to the cross, reminiscent of those in Catholic countries of Europe and in Latin America. CORNWALL. this was called Goody Friday, and was more of a feast than a fast. It was a holiday, and people indulged in walks and picnics. Winkles and other shellfish were gathered for cooking, a favourite source being the River Helford at St Constantine in West Cornwall, famous for the quality of its oysters, limpets and cockles. St Day had a Goody Friday Fair, but it was moved to Easter Monday. There was also a Goody Friday Fair at Perranporth, near the oratory of St. Piran called Perranzabuloe. Hot-cross buns were made and sold today, some spiced and eaten with butter and sugar, others made with currants and saffron. A type unique to Penzance was made with currant paste covered with saffron. It was about 4 in across and 1/8 in thick with a cross dividing it into four segments. In farmhouses a hot-cross bun was hung up to protect family and cattle from disease. Sick cows were given a warm mash made from grated hot-cross buns. -- Pat Connors, Sacramento CA http://www.connorsgenealogy.com All outgoing mail virus free, scanned by Norton 2002

    04/18/2003 03:23:46
    1. [Redruth] St Donan and his Companions' Day
    2. Pat Connors
    3. from the Chronicles of Celtic Customs, by Brian Day 17th April, St Donan and his Companions' Day CELTIC. St. Donan was a 7th century Irish follower of St. Columba on Iona, who left to found a monastery and commune on the isle of Eigg. At Easter AD 618 the members of the commune were all murdered by local people (traditionally by a chieftainess and her women followers) after a dispute about grazing rights. There is a loch on the island called Loch nam ban Mora -- the Loch of the Big Women. (My note: The Isle of Eigg is another island off the coast of Scotland. Here is a website that will give you more info on it: http://www.isleofeigg.org/ ) -- Pat Connors, Sacramento CA http://www.connorsgenealogy.com All outgoing mail virus free, scanned by Norton 2002

    04/17/2003 02:53:06
    1. [Redruth] TREWARTHA's in Redruth for 1881 and 1891 Census
    2. Kaytie Trewartha
    3. Hello My husband's TREWARTHA family lived in and around Gwennap from 1798 ish until at least the 1871 Census. William bap 1829 Gwennap, was buried March 1880 in Redruth and his eldest son (my husbands gr grandfather) William bap 1854 Gwennap had moved to Dalton in Furness, Lancashire by 1879. According to the 1881 Census living at 20 Trefuses/Trefusis Terrace, Redruth, were the widow Elizabeth (m.s. SYMONS) age 48 and 6 of her children of whom the two eldest boys were tin miners. By the 1891 Census another son was also a tin miner. Can anybody suggest where these boys may have worked and does anyone know anything about the children of this family Joseph b1855 Gwennap,tin miner in 1881, m Sarah Ann HOSKINGS 1881, d 1884 James b 1863 Gwennap, tin miner in 1881 Emily b 1868 Gwennap, tailoress in 1891, m ? in 1901 Annie b 1871 Gwennap, assistant in house in 1891, m ? in 1894 Richard b 1872 Gwennap, tin miner in 1891, d 1898 Mary Jane b 1874 Gwennap, apprentice millner in 1891 Hoping these names/places mean something to someone! Kay Trewartha St Andrews, Scotland

    04/16/2003 04:53:50
    1. [Redruth] Hocking connection
    2. alan hocking
    3. Hello Bob, Dont wish to get your hopes up, but richard was my grandfathers and great grandfathers names. G.grandfather married 1866 St Day church. Sorry I cant tell you more at present but i am halfway through moving my daughter into her new flat. Will have more time on monday to search through the family bible and papers. Yours Alan.

    04/16/2003 11:48:37
    1. [Redruth] St. Magnus' Day
    2. Pat Connors
    3. from The Chronicles of Celtic Customs, by Brian Day 16th April, St Magnus' Day CELTIC. St. Magnus was a 12th century Norwegian Jarl who was martyred in the Orkney Isles when murdered by order of his cousin Haakon. He met his death by having his head split apart with an axe. Kirkwall Cathedral is dedicated to him, and in 1919 a skeleton with a cleft skull was discovered there. My Note: The Orkney Isles are located just north of Scotland. -- Pat Connors, Sacramento CA http://www.connorsgenealogy.com All outgoing mail virus free, scanned by Norton 2002

    04/16/2003 03:41:18
    1. Re: [Redruth] Hocking
    2. Pat Connors
    3. The 1906 business directory of Redruth shows: Hocking, Jane (Mrs.), shopkeeper, Drump road Hocking, Minnie (Miss), girls' school, Free Library chmbrs -- Pat Connors, Sacramento CA http://www.connorsgenealogy.com All outgoing mail virus free, scanned by Norton 2002

    04/15/2003 03:30:48
    1. [Redruth] Falmouth road farm
    2. alan hocking
    3. This is my first posting to the list, so i am a little bit nervous. My father, Matthew Thomas Hocking was born 1902 on a farm in Falmouth road Redruth which is now a small housing estate. I have pictures of the farmhouse but try as i might , I cannot find any trace of a name of the farm. Hoping one of you can be of some assistance. Many thanks in anticipation. Alan in sunny Kent.

    04/15/2003 12:52:07
    1. Re: [Redruth] Falmouth road farm
    2. Bob Hocking
    3. Hello Alan I cannot help you with your specific question about the farm in Redruth, but I'm wondering if we have any family connection other than our surname. My family too came from Redruth and while I have some of the line, there are many branches which seem to have just disappeared. My grandfather, Howard Hocking, was born in Redruth in 1877 to Joseph Hocking and Mary Ruse Sanders. He came from a family of nine, only 3 of which I can trace. Joseph was the youngest son of Richard Hocken (sic) and Elizabeth Wherry of the St Austell area. The family seemed to move about mid Cornwall in the 19th century and than scattered. Maybe we could share some information if you see any possible connection. Best regards, Bob hocking49@tiscali.co.uk wrote: >This is my first posting to the list, so i am a little bit nervous. My father, Matthew Thomas Hocking was born 1902 on a farm in Falmouth road Redruth which is now a small housing estate. I have pictures of the farmhouse but try as i might , I cannot find any trace of a name of the farm. Hoping one of you can be of some assistance. Many thanks in anticipation. Alan in sunny Kent. > > >==== ENG-CORNWALL-REDRUTH Mailing List ==== >Check out the list's website for rules, guidelines, links, how to post to the list, view archives, unsubscribe, change from L to D or D to L: >http://www.connorsgenealogy.com/Redruth/ > > > -- Your favorite stores, helpful shopping tools and great gift ideas. Experience the convenience of buying online with Shop@Netscape! http://shopnow.netscape.com/

    04/15/2003 05:16:28
    1. Re: [Redruth] John Kemp, Illogan Parish
    2. carole lubbers
    3. I'm not sure if I have or not. Am just getting back to this particular research, so will do just that! It has been about 3 years since I looked at the Kemp stuff, so it's almost like starting over. Thanks. Carole ----- Original Message ----- From: <JMT1941@aol.com> To: <ENG-CORNWALL-REDRUTH-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Sunday, April 13, 2003 2:48 PM Subject: Re: [Redruth] John Kemp, Illogan Parish > Hi Carole, > > Since you've already checked W.L. Bawden's transcripts, have you also checked > the IGI to see if your surnames are predominant in other parishes at dates > prior to your earliest confirmed dates? That may provide logical parishes to > search. > > Regards, > Joe > > > ==== ENG-CORNWALL-REDRUTH Mailing List ==== > Check out the list's website for rules, guidelines, links, how to post to the list, view archives, unsubscribe, change from L to D or D to L: > http://www.connorsgenealogy.com/Redruth/ >

    04/13/2003 12:00:04
    1. Re: [Redruth] John Kemp, Illogan Parish
    2. Hi Carole, Since you've already checked W.L. Bawden's transcripts, have you also checked the IGI to see if your surnames are predominant in other parishes at dates prior to your earliest confirmed dates? That may provide logical parishes to search. Regards, Joe

    04/13/2003 08:48:57
    1. [Redruth] Palm Sunday
    2. Pat Connors
    3. from the Chronicles of Celtic Folk Customs, by Brian Day Palm Sunday, Sunday immediately preceding Easter CELTIC When Christ entered Jerusalem on a donkey he was greeted by cheering people waving palms. In the Celtic lands, where palms will not readily grow, catkin-bearing willows like sallow (or Pussy Willow) or other available greenery were used as symbols, decorations and buttonholes, and branches made into crosses. This custom dates from at least the 5th century. I was banned in many parts after the Reformation as idolatrous, but revived afterwards. Pax Cakes or Buns ('Pax' is latin for 'peace') were distributed after the church service. Fig pie or pudding is also traditionally eaten today. Children used to make liquorice water by mixing liquorice with well water, which on this day was regarded as 'holy'. CORNWALL Vegetation picked and taken into the family home will bring luck. At Our Lady of Nant's Well in Little Colan, near Newquay, people went in procession with a palm cross in one hand and vegetation in the other for a divination ceremony. In Polperro, local apprentices were given a day's holiday to visit parents. -- Pat Connors, Sacramento CA http://www.connorsgenealogy.com All outgoing mail virus free, scanned by Norton 2002

    04/13/2003 04:21:06
    1. Re: [Redruth] John Kemp, Illogan Parish
    2. carole lubbers
    3. Joe, just had another thought. Do you have any recommendations on other sites or places I can search? Carole ----- Original Message ----- From: <JMT1941@aol.com> To: <ENG-CORNWALL-REDRUTH-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Friday, April 11, 2003 1:27 PM Subject: Re: [Redruth] John Kemp, Illogan Parish > Hello Carole, > > You would do well to order LDS Film #1849636. This is W.L. Bawden's > transcripts of several Cornwall parish church registers, including Illogan > baptisms, marriages, and burials from 1539 to 1845. Mr. Bawden's transcripts > are very accurate and the parish registers were cross-checked with the > Bishop's Transcripts and any variations noted. In addition, the transcripts > are indexed making research pretty straight forward. > > I have the film at my local FHC and can do a lookup if you wish, but, if you > prefer to do your own research, I recommend your ordering the film. Besides > Illogan, this film includes several other parishes including the adjacent > parish of Redruth. > > I will be at my local FHC next Tuesday if you want me to do a lookup. > > Regards, > > Joe Trewhella > Godfrey, Illinois > > > ==== ENG-CORNWALL-REDRUTH Mailing List ==== > Check out the list's website for rules, guidelines, links, how to post to the list, view archives, unsubscribe, change from L to D or D to L: > http://www.connorsgenealogy.com/Redruth/ >

    04/12/2003 06:54:28
    1. Re: [Redruth] John Kemp, Illogan Parish
    2. carole lubbers
    3. Joe, thank you for your kind and generous offer! The film number is the one I did look at and got the information I posted to the list. Basically, that is all of the info I have and copied the Polkinghorne info just in case I run into anything else. Not finding anything else on the Kemp line, I don't know where to look next. Right now am involved in my German line and I am doing a parish by parish search, which I will try for the Kemp line shortly. Thanks again. Carole ----- Original Message ----- From: <JMT1941@aol.com> To: <ENG-CORNWALL-REDRUTH-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Friday, April 11, 2003 1:27 PM Subject: Re: [Redruth] John Kemp, Illogan Parish > Hello Carole, > > You would do well to order LDS Film #1849636. This is W.L. Bawden's > transcripts of several Cornwall parish church registers, including Illogan > baptisms, marriages, and burials from 1539 to 1845. Mr. Bawden's transcripts > are very accurate and the parish registers were cross-checked with the > Bishop's Transcripts and any variations noted. In addition, the transcripts > are indexed making research pretty straight forward. > > I have the film at my local FHC and can do a lookup if you wish, but, if you > prefer to do your own research, I recommend your ordering the film. Besides > Illogan, this film includes several other parishes including the adjacent > parish of Redruth. > > I will be at my local FHC next Tuesday if you want me to do a lookup. > > Regards, > > Joe Trewhella > Godfrey, Illinois > > > ==== ENG-CORNWALL-REDRUTH Mailing List ==== > Check out the list's website for rules, guidelines, links, how to post to the list, view archives, unsubscribe, change from L to D or D to L: > http://www.connorsgenealogy.com/Redruth/ >

    04/12/2003 06:53:42
    1. Re: [Redruth] KEMP and POLLINHORNE, Illogan
    2. carole lubbers
    3. Thank you Joan. I don't know if they are, but will keep it in my files just in case! Carole ----- Original Message ----- From: "Joan In Colorado" <epistles@msn.com> To: <ENG-CORNWALL-REDRUTH-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Friday, April 11, 2003 12:20 PM Subject: [Redruth] KEMP and POLLINHORNE, Illogan > Hallo Carole: > > Just in case they are related here are the only two KEMP and POLKINHORNE > surnames from the 1856 Post Office Directory of Redruth: > > BENJAMIN KEMP, Farmer, Polventon, Illogan > WILLIAM POLKINHORNE, Farmer, Trecazon, Illogan > > Best wishes, Joan > > > ==== ENG-CORNWALL-REDRUTH Mailing List ==== > Check out the list's website for rules, guidelines, links, how to post to the list, view archives, unsubscribe, change from L to D or D to L: > http://www.connorsgenealogy.com/Redruth/ >

    04/12/2003 06:35:42
    1. [Redruth] John Kemp, Illogan Parish
    2. carole lubbers
    3. Hello everybody. My 2nd grgrandfather John Kemp b. 27 May 1815 in Karnkye, Illogan Parish, Redruth. His parents were John Kemp (I have no further info) and Ann Polkinhorne, m. 8 January 1812, Illogan Parish. Other children were Richard Kemp b. 8 Aug 1822 Joseph Kem b. 11 Aug 1826 Jane Kemp b. 20 July 1829 Thomas Kemp b. 2 Feb. 1840 Took this information from LDS film. Any suggestions on further research I can do would be welcome. Any connections to any of these people also welcome! Thanks, Carole Lubbers, Marietta, Ga. Willard: Tuscarawas, Stark, Summit, Portage & Henry Counties, Ohio Thomas G. Kemp: Cornwall, Engl. to Dover, Tuscarawas Co., Ohio Ruth Lloyd b. 1848 Merioneth Co., Wales, Father was John Lloyd b. 1816 Gwyddelwern Joseph Roberts b. 1848 husband of Ruth, can't locate anything for Joseph Dennis Hogan b. 1850 Ireland to Cleveland, Ohio abt. 1870 Mary Ellen Gleason b. 1852 Ireland to Cleveland, wife of Dennis Hogan

    04/11/2003 08:39:19
    1. Re: [Redruth] John Kemp, Illogan Parish
    2. Hello Carole, You would do well to order LDS Film #1849636. This is W.L. Bawden's transcripts of several Cornwall parish church registers, including Illogan baptisms, marriages, and burials from 1539 to 1845. Mr. Bawden's transcripts are very accurate and the parish registers were cross-checked with the Bishop's Transcripts and any variations noted. In addition, the transcripts are indexed making research pretty straight forward. I have the film at my local FHC and can do a lookup if you wish, but, if you prefer to do your own research, I recommend your ordering the film. Besides Illogan, this film includes several other parishes including the adjacent parish of Redruth. I will be at my local FHC next Tuesday if you want me to do a lookup. Regards, Joe Trewhella Godfrey, Illinois

    04/11/2003 07:27:24
    1. [Redruth] KEMP and POLLINHORNE, Illogan
    2. Joan In Colorado
    3. Hallo Carole: Just in case they are related here are the only two KEMP and POLKINHORNE surnames from the 1856 Post Office Directory of Redruth: BENJAMIN KEMP, Farmer, Polventon, Illogan WILLIAM POLKINHORNE, Farmer, Trecazon, Illogan Best wishes, Joan

    04/11/2003 04:20:56
    1. [Redruth] Carling Sunday
    2. Pat Connors
    3. according to Celtic Folk Customs by Brian Day Carling Sunday, Passion Sunday, Care Sunday, Fifth Sunday in Lent CELTIC. In ancient times beans were eaten at feasts commemorating the dead, and this may explain the custom of eating grey peas, called Carlings, on the news of the imminent death of Christ. In Roman times beans were also given as a dole, and in Lent they have always been an approved food. When eating them communally, the one getting the last carling in the dish will be the first to marry. Fig pies, when figs can be obtained, are also traditionally eaten, in memory of the alleged cursing of a barren fig tree by Christ when making his triumphal entry to Jerusalem, but Fig Sunday is celebrated on the 4th, 5th and 6th Sunday in Lent in different regions. -- Pat Connors, Sacramento CA http://www.connorsgenealogy.com All outgoing mail virus free, scanned by Norton 2002

    04/06/2003 03:39:56