Hi Anne, Sorry to say, but I don't think the Henry & Jane JAMES family below is the I am looking for, but thanks for sending me that info....I really need to look at the 1851 census to find where Henry & Jane were born.Sadly the index doesn't tell me this. Kind regards Pat > However, I think I have found yours, 1861, in Penryn: > Henry JAMES, 51 waggoner, b. Mullion > wife Jane JAMES, 51 also b. Mullion > children John 23 b. Mullion, then > Samuel 22, Richard 21, Elizabeth 12, William 8 all b. Penryn > > In 1871 this family is in Budock - wife is Jane J James, according to the index. > > Hope this is of use > Anne > Scotland > > > -------------------- > talk21 your FREE portable and private address on the net at http://www.talk21.com > > > ==== ENG-CORNWALL-REDRUTH Mailing List ==== > Check out the list's website for rules, guidelines, links, how to post to the list, view archives, unsubscribe, change from L to D or D to L: > http://www.connorsgenealogy.com/Redruth/ >

from the Chonicles of Celtic Folk Traditions by Brian Day... Squab Pie for the pastry: 12 oz (350 g) plain flour 1/2 teaspoon baking powder 6 oz (175 g) butter 1 egg Salt and pepper for the filling: 2 lb (900 g) lean pork pieces 1 lb (450 g) onions 1 lb (450 g) apples 1 teaspoon dried sage Salt and black pepper 1 pint (600 ml) stock To make the pastry, sift the flour into a bowl and stir in the baking powder. Rub in the butter. Beat the egg and add, with salt and pepper, mixing to produce a stiff dough. Knead and leave in the refrigerator for 15 minutes. To make the pie, grease a large pie dish. Peel and slice the onions, and core, peel and slice the apples. Add these, with the pork, to the dish so as to make layers, sprinkling sage, salt and black pepper on each layer. Pour on the stock. Roll out the pastry on a floured board and cover the dish. Pierce the top and cook for 10 minutes in a hot oven at 425°F/220°C. Reduce the temperature to moderate at 325°F/160°C and cook for 2 hours. Serve hot, but it can be eaten cold. -- Pat Connors, Sacramento CA http://www.connorsgenealogy.com Professional Genealogy Research All outgoing mail virus free, scanned by Norton 2002

from Celtic Folk Customs book by Brian Day.... Whitsuntide, Whit Week or just Whit, starts seven weeks after Easter Sunday, and is the week running from Whit Sunday until the day before Trinity Sunday. The Jewish feast of Pentecost, 50 days after Easter, commemorates the giving of the Ten Commandments by God to Moses on Mount Sinai and lies on the same day as Whit Sunday. Whit was a joyous occasion for Christians, originally celebrating the inspiration of Christ's apostles by the Holy Ghost. 'Whit' may be derived from 'white', the customary colour of baptismal robes, or alternatively perhaps from the giving of 'wit' to the disciples. The traditional religious parades, pageants, and monetary donations gave way in time to Church Ales and May games, the degree of solemnity being much reduced everywhere except in devout Catholic areas. CELTIC. In areas of English settlement (mainly Cornwall and the south and east of Wales) the Church used to organise an outdoor feast for parishioners, to take advantage of the generally fine weather at this time of year, which came to be called the Whitsun Ale after the specially brewed ale that was provided. A Lord and Lady of the Ale would often be elected to preside over the festivities, which included music, dancing, sports and games, miracle plays and much more. Fairs grew up around them and organisations held parades. As Whit Monday and Tuesday became public holidays this occasion tended to be the start of a whole week of activities, culminating in the Whit Walks on the Friday. Originating probably in Rogationtide Beating the Bounds ceremonies they were adopted by Benefit Clubs and Friendly Societies as healthy alternatives to the excesses of the Whitsun Ales. These Societies, which also had Sick Clubs, for which member paid an early form of health insurance, were teetotal, and outlived the general Protestant opposition to Whitsun Ales in the 17th century. CORNWALL. Whitsun was a time for relaxation and enjoyment. Polperro children used to go to farms and beg for milk and cream. To refuse them was considered unlucky. Whitsun fairs were held at Helston, Lanreath and Truro. Whit Sunday: Cornish folk never went out today without wearing something new, lest birds mess on them. Squab Pie (recipe to follow) was a traditional Whitsun dish made with pigeon, nowadays replaced by pork. -- Pat Connors, Sacramento CA http://www.connorsgenealogy.com Professional Genealogy Research All outgoing mail virus free, scanned by Norton 2002

from the Chronicles of Celtic Folk Customs by Brian Day.... 7th June, St Meriasek's Day, St Colman's Day CELTIC. St Meriasek was a 6th century Cornish saint from Cambourne, whose protection was traditionally sought by tin miners. They put clay images of him at mine entrances and at the entrances to each level of workin, even as late as this century. St Colman was from Ulster. Interesting websites: St Meriasek: http://www.bath.ac.uk/lispring/sourcearchive/ns1/ns1tgh6.htm St Colman (from Mayo): http://www.newadvent.org/cathen/04115c.htm St Colman (from Dalaradia): http://www.newadvent.org/cathen/04115d.htm -- Pat Connors, Sacramento CA http://www.connorsgenealogy.com Professional Genealogy Research All outgoing mail virus free, scanned by Norton 2002

Hello Pat Thankyou for that - your Jane Bennett JAMES would really have solved my riddle. But . . . Since sending my last message, which took a while to post and then went 3 times (sorry, everyone) I have received the 1861 census CD. My Jane JAMES - the one born around 1810 - was there in Redruth 1861, same address as 1881, with her husband Richard JAMES plus 3 daughters and a son. The daughters are Emma 19, Elizabeth 17, and Ellen 14. So this doesn't help, as I am looking for a Jane who would have been about 15. However, I think I have found yours, 1861, in Penryn: Henry JAMES, 51 waggoner, b. Mullion wife Jane JAMES, 51 also b. Mullion children John 23 b. Mullion, then Samuel 22, Richard 21, Elizabeth 12, William 8 all b. Penryn In 1871 this family is in Budock - wife is Jane J James, according to the index. Hope this is of use Anne Scotland -------------------- talk21 your FREE portable and private address on the net at http://www.talk21.com

Hi, Thanks for accepting my request to subsciribe to your list. I am researching the Dudley family who emmigrated from Cornwall to Australia probably in the 1870s. I am presently living in the USA and would be happy to look for information here that anyone might need. Thanks again, Jenny (Dudley) King.

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Hello Anne and list I also have been looking at the same 1871 Census entry as you and wondering if it could be my Jane JAMES who was born c1810/11 REDRUTH ; District 7; Schedule 131; Head: Jane JAMES, Wid. Tailoress, age 60 born Redruth Dau: Jane EDWARDS, husband abroad, age 25 born Redruth G.Dau: Jane EDWARDS, age 3 born Redruth G.Dau: EDWARDS Clara, age 1 born Redruth (my husband's granny) My Jane Bennett JAMES was Jane Bennett PAULL, born c1810/11( dau of Erasmus PAULL & Ann BENNETT) before she married Henry JAMES in 14 July 1832 St Agnes. I have not found Jane's baptism place. Some of the PAULL children were bp in St Agnes, but there are some I have not found where and don't know if they were baptised. The PAULL family moved around.In the 1851 census Erasmus and Ann PAULL were in the village of Pool, near Illogan. Also their son Edmund PAULL lived in Redruth. Henry & Jane Bennett JAMES had a dau, also Jane Bennett JAMES bp:15 Sep 1833 St Agnes, but this Jane is too old for the one in the 1871 Census. I suppose this Jane could have died and then another dau born 1846 could have been named Jane. Anyway I just thought I would mention all this because you mention the name BENNETT and Bennett was the middle name of my Jane Bennett JAMES. In the 1841 St Agnes Census dau Jane is aged 8. She is not with the family in the 1851 St Agnes Census. I haven't found them in the 1861 census. I will be interested to hear what you learn from other listers. Kind regards Pat South Australia ----- Original Message ----- From: <annewatson@talk21.com> To: <ENG-CORNWALL-REDRUTH-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Wednesday, June 04, 2003 8:40 AM Subject: [Redruth] EDWARDS, JAMES and BENNETT > > Hi, I am a newcomer to your group as I have only recently discovered > that my husband's Granny came from Redruth. She was Clara EDWARDS, the > youngest of a family there in 1871: > > Head: Jane JAMES, Wid. Tailoress, age 60 born Redruth > Dau: Jane EDWARDS, husband abroad, age 25 born Redruth > G.Dau: Jane EDWARDS, age 3 born Redruth > G.Dau: EDWARDS Clara, age 1 born Redruth (my husband's granny) > > The 'husband abroad' was William EDWARDS. He had died by 1881, though I > have not found a record of his death. He registered the birth of their > first son in Scotland, 1875. > > In 1881 Granny Jane was still in Redruth. > > Her daughter was in Govan, Partick, Glasgow: > Head: Jane EDWARDS Wid, Machinist, 33 born England > Dau: Jane EDWARDS, 13 born England > Dau: Clara EDWARDS, 11 born England > Son: Wm. EDWARDS, 5 born Overton, Lanark, Scotland > Son: Joseph EDWARDS, 3 born Glasgow, Lanark, Scotland > Son: John EDWARDS, 3 w born Partick, Lanark, Scotland > > I discovered the Redruth connection from the birth registrations of > the three sons. Each time, their parent's marriage was said to be in > Redruth, but the date varied from 1864 to 1867. Also, Jane's maiden > name was given as JAMES by her husband in 1875, but she gave it as > BENNETT in 1878, 1881 and at Clara's marriage in 1888. It was also > BENNETT on her death certificate. > > Can anyone enlighten me as to whether 'Granny Jane' had been married > to an EDWARDS before she became Mrs JAMES? > > Do any of you have a connection to this family? > > I have not yet found any relevant births or marriages in Cornwall. > The discrepancies in marriage date and maiden name will not help if > I contact Southport to look for the marriage. Jane's age is 2 years out > at the censuses, and I have no idea of her husband William's age. > > It was a real stroke of luck to find the transcription of the 1871 > census - many thanks to anyone who helped with that! > > But I do wish the English registers were as easy to search and download > as the Scottish ones at ScotlandsPeople.gov.uk > > Hoping someone can help me > Anne Watson, in Thurso, Caithness, Scotland. > > > -------------------- > talk21 your FREE portable and private address on the net at http://www.talk21.com > > > ==== ENG-CORNWALL-REDRUTH Mailing List ==== > Check out the list's website for rules, guidelines, links, how to post to the list, view archives, unsubscribe, change from L to D or D to L: > http://www.connorsgenealogy.com/Redruth/ >

from the Chronicle of Celtic Folk Customs, by Brian Day 4th June, St Petroc's Day CELTIC. St Petroc was a 6th century Cornishman who founded the monasteries at Padstow and Little Petherick. His head-reliquary can be seen in the parish church at Bodmin. -- Pat Connors, Sacramento CA http://www.connorsgenealogy.com Professional Genealogy Research All outgoing mail virus free, scanned by Norton 2002

Hi, I am a newcomer to your group as I have only recently discovered that my husband's Granny came from Redruth. She was Clara EDWARDS, the youngest of a family there in 1871: Head: Jane JAMES, Wid. Tailoress, age 60 born Redruth Dau: Jane EDWARDS, husband abroad, age 25 born Redruth G.Dau: Jane EDWARDS, age 3 born Redruth G.Dau: EDWARDS Clara, age 1 born Redruth (my husband's granny) The 'husband abroad' was William EDWARDS. He had died by 1881, though I have not found a record of his death. He registered the birth of their first son in Scotland, 1875. In 1881 Granny Jane was still in Redruth. Her daughter was in Govan, Partick, Glasgow: Head: Jane EDWARDS Wid, Machinist, 33 born England Dau: Jane EDWARDS, 13 born England Dau: Clara EDWARDS, 11 born England Son: Wm. EDWARDS, 5 born Overton, Lanark, Scotland Son: Joseph EDWARDS, 3 born Glasgow, Lanark, Scotland Son: John EDWARDS, 3 w born Partick, Lanark, Scotland I discovered the Redruth connection from the birth registrations of the three sons. Each time, their parent's marriage was said to be in Redruth, but the date varied from 1864 to 1867. Also, Jane's maiden name was given as JAMES by her husband in 1875, but she gave it as BENNETT in 1878, 1881 and at Clara's marriage in 1888. It was also BENNETT on her death certificate. Can anyone enlighten me as to whether 'Granny Jane' had been married to an EDWARDS before she became Mrs JAMES? Do any of you have a connection to this family? I have not yet found any relevant births or marriages in Cornwall. The discrepancies in marriage date and maiden name will not help if I contact Southport to look for the marriage. Jane's age is 2 years out at the censuses, and I have no idea of her husband William's age. It was a real stroke of luck to find the transcription of the 1871 census - many thanks to anyone who helped with that! But I do wish the English registers were as easy to search and download as the Scottish ones at ScotlandsPeople.gov.uk Hoping someone can help me Anne Watson, in Thurso, Caithness, Scotland. -------------------- talk21 your FREE portable and private address on the net at http://www.talk21.com

Hi, I am a newcomer to your group as I have only recently discovered that my husband's Granny came from Redruth. She was Clara EDWARDS, the youngest of a family there in 1871: Head: Jane JAMES, Wid. Tailoress, age 60 born Redruth Dau: Jane EDWARDS, husband abroad, age 25 born Redruth G.Dau: Jane EDWARDS, age 3 born Redruth G.Dau: EDWARDS Clara, age 1 born Redruth (my husband's granny) The 'husband abroad' was William EDWARDS. He had died by 1881, though I have not found a record of his death. He registered the birth of their first son in Scotland, 1875. In 1881 Granny Jane was still in Redruth. Her daughter was in Govan, Partick, Glasgow: Head: Jane EDWARDS Wid, Machinist, 33 born England Dau: Jane EDWARDS, 13 born England Dau: Clara EDWARDS, 11 born England Son: Wm. EDWARDS, 5 born Overton, Lanark, Scotland Son: Joseph EDWARDS, 3 born Glasgow, Lanark, Scotland Son: John EDWARDS, 3 w born Partick, Lanark, Scotland I discovered the Redruth connection from the birth registrations of the three sons. Each time, their parent's marriage was said to be in Redruth, but the date varied from 1864 to 1867. Also, Jane's maiden name was given as JAMES by her husband in 1875, but she gave it as BENNETT in 1878, 1881 and at Clara's marriage in 1888. It was also BENNETT on her death certificate. Can anyone enlighten me as to whether 'Granny Jane' had been married to an EDWARDS before she became Mrs JAMES? Do any of you have a connection to this family? I have not yet found any relevant births or marriages in Cornwall. The discrepancies in marriage date and maiden name will not help if I contact Southport to look for the marriage. Jane's age is 2 years out at the censuses, and I have no idea of her husband William's age. It was a real stroke of luck to find the transcription of the 1871 census - many thanks to anyone who helped with that! But I do wish the English registers were as easy to search and download as the Scottish ones at ScotlandsPeople.gov.uk Hoping someone can help me Anne Watson, in Thurso, Caithness, Scotland. -------------------- talk21 your FREE portable and private address on the net at http://www.talk21.com

Hi, I am a newcomer to your group as I have only recently discovered that my husband's Granny came from Redruth. She was Clara EDWARDS, the youngest of a family there in 1871: Head: Jane JAMES, Wid. Tailoress, age 60 born Redruth Dau: Jane EDWARDS, husband abroad, age 25 born Redruth G.Dau: Jane EDWARDS, age 3 born Redruth G.Dau: EDWARDS Clara, age 1 born Redruth (my husband's granny) The 'husband abroad' was William EDWARDS. He had died by 1881, though I have not found a record of his death. He registered the birth of their first son in Scotland, 1875. In 1881 Granny Jane was still in Redruth. Her daughter was in Govan, Partick, Glasgow: Head: Jane EDWARDS Wid, Machinist, 33 born England Dau: Jane EDWARDS, 13 born England Dau: Clara EDWARDS, 11 born England Son: Wm. EDWARDS, 5 born Overton, Lanark, Scotland Son: Joseph EDWARDS, 3 born Glasgow, Lanark, Scotland Son: John EDWARDS, 3 w born Partick, Lanark, Scotland I discovered the Redruth connection from the birth registrations of the three sons. Each time, their parent's marriage was said to be in Redruth, but the date varied from 1864 to 1867. Also, Jane's maiden name was given as JAMES by her husband in 1875, but she gave it as BENNETT in 1878, 1881 and at Clara's marriage in 1888. It was also BENNETT on her death certificate. Can anyone enlighten me as to whether 'Granny Jane' had been married to an EDWARDS before she became Mrs JAMES? Do any of you have a connection to this family? I have not yet found any relevant births or marriages in Cornwall. The discrepancies in marriage date and maiden name will not help if I contact Southport to look for the marriage. Jane's age is 2 years out at the censuses, and I have no idea of her husband William's age. It was a real stroke of luck to find the transcription of the 1871 census - many thanks to anyone who helped with that! But I do wish the English registers were as easy to search and download as the Scottish ones at ScotlandsPeople.gov.uk Hoping someone can help me Anne Watson, in Thurso, Caithness, Scotland. -------------------- talk21 your FREE portable and private address on the net at http://www.talk21.com

As we know the ecclesiastical parish of Reduth was divided into three parishes- Redruth St. Uny; Redruth St Andrew (created 1884) and Treleigh (created 1871). I am involved in a project transcribing the memorial inscriptions of Cornwall - Cornwall Inscriptions Project - CIP for short. I have placed an index to the memorials for Treleigh parish on the CIP web site www.cornwallinscriptions.co.uk navigate to database - Cornwall and then Treleigh and you will find the index in alphabetical format. The survey found over 1500 memorials and over 2900 names. The other two Redruth Parishes will be added in due course. Enjoy. This is a new site and comments welcome. Incidently, not a lot has been written directly about Treleigh, however David & Tricia Rowe published "The History of St. Stephen's Church Treleigh" in 1998. Regards, Mike, Redruth, Cornwall.

I have updated the surname registry on the Eng-Cornwall-Redruth mailing list website. You can access it at the URL under my name. Under 'Mailing Lists', click on Eng-Cornwall-Redruth. On the webpage, you will find link for the Surname Registry, under Addresses to Remember. -- Pat Connors, Sacramento CA, listowner http://www.connorsgenealogy.com Professional Genealogy Research All outgoing mail virus free, scanned by Norton 2002

more from the Celtic Folk Customs book.... 29th May, Royal Oak Day, Oak-apple Day CELTIC. In areas of English settlement Charles II's enthronement day in 1660 was celebrated, houses being decorated with oaks branches, and lapel of those loyal to the crown sported an oak leaf. This symbol, which may have distant echoes of ancient tree worship, commemorates his escape from the Roundheads by hiding in an oak tree on 6th September 1651 after the Battle of Worcester. Only in Cornwall did this commemoration survive into the 20th century. CORNWALL. In St Germans, East Cornwall, a Mock Mayor was elected. Anyone without an oak sprig was drenched and deemed disloyal. In Looe and other parts of East Cornwall people wore an oak leaf for Oak-apple Day, or risked being spat upon ('cobbing"), a protection against bad luck. -- Pat Connors, Sacramento CA http://www.connorsgenealogy.com Professional Genealogy Research All outgoing mail virus free, scanned by Norton 2002

from the Celtic Folk Customs book.... Ascension Day, fortieth day after Easter, Thursday before Whit Sunday CELTIC. The Roman flower festival 'Fontinalia' honouring the spirits of streams and fountains took place now, and the association of Ascension Day with giving thanks for the gift of water may come from the Church's efforts to eradicate water- and well-worship. Wells were rededicated to saints. The tradition of thanksgiving for pure well water dates back to the Black Death when villages were spared because of their pure water. Some preambulations and blessings also occurred today. Children used to mix well water with sugar or liquorice before drinking it. Water from healing wells was thought to be especially potent today. There was a general fear of mishap and accident today, and clothes were never washed lest someone dies as the clothes are drying. -- Pat Connors, Sacramento CA http://www.connorsgenealogy.com Professional Genealogy Research All outgoing mail virus free, scanned by Norton 2002

from the Chronicles of Celtic Folk Customs by Brian Day. 28th May CORNWALL. At St Germans in East Cornwall there was a festival starting on this day centred around the walnut tree at the foot of Nut-tree Hill. Children erected a basket-swing in the afternoon. -- Pat Connors, Sacramento CA http://www.connorsgenealogy.com Professional Genealogy Research All outgoing mail virus free, scanned by Norton 2002

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Found in 1906 Kelly's Directory of Cornwall Resident of Redruth: Nancarrow Miss, Heanton Terrace -- Pat Connors, Sacramento CA http://www.connorsgenealogy.com Professional Genealogy Research All outgoing mail virus free, scanned by Norton 2002