Pauline, found the following birth at Ely on the LDS Church site. You might want to check this church's records for births of other children, and maybe marriage of parents: WILLIAM NORMAN Male Birth: Christening: 16 SEP 1800 Holy Trinity, Ely, Cambridge, England Death: Burial: ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- ---- Parents: Father: JAMES NORMAN Family Mother: RUTH ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- ---- Messages: Form submitted by a member of the LDS Church. The form lists the submitter's name and address and may include source information. The address may be outdated. Details vary. To find the form, you must know the batch and sheet number. ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- ---- Source Information: Batch Number: 7624726 Sheet: 18 Source Call No.: 1058744 Type: Film There is also record of a James Norman, wife Ruth, being parents to a Frances (who married a Thomas South) baptised in this same church in 1808. You might want to contact the submitter on this one. His name and address is at www.familysearch.org Click on "Search for Ancestors" and look for James Norman, wife Ruth in England. When you find the correct one, click on Details and the name and address of the submitter comes up. Judy in the USA