Hello again from Chicago. One of my grandmother's elder brothers was a 1st class saloon steward on RMS Titanic, according to Encyclopedia-Titanica from which I received most of my information so far (this site has an ongoing project for creating biographies of all crew members). Arthur William Barringer, b 1878 Cambridge, D Apr 1912 (drowned on RMS Titanic) Mansion House records list he left a widow named Ethel Isabel [no maiden name] with 2 children (Dorothy and Eric, ages unknown) living in Southampton. No other information has been uncovered so far, except that the widow remarried (and apparently [placed her children in an orphanage for a while). Marriage date and place is NOT known. How can I locate the correct marriage if I do not know the bride's maiden name or where it was held? One thought was that the wedding announcement may have been placed in the groom's town newspaper as well as the wife's town newspaper, as it is often done in the US these days. But how to I locate this, and was it a custom in the 1890-1910 time frame to announce weddings? Ralph __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? New and Improved Yahoo! Mail - 100MB free storage! http://promotions.yahoo.com/new_mail

Have you found him on any of the censuses? -----Original Message----- From: R D [mailto:find_family@yahoo.com] Sent: 06 September 2004 20:12 To: ENG-CAMBRIDGESHIRE-L@rootsweb.com Subject: [ENG-CAMB] Arthur William BARRINGER - seeking marriage info Hello again from Chicago. One of my grandmother's elder brothers was a 1st class saloon steward on RMS Titanic, according to Encyclopedia-Titanica from which I received most of my information so far (this site has an ongoing project for creating biographies of all crew members). Arthur William Barringer, b 1878 Cambridge, D Apr 1912 (drowned on RMS Titanic) Mansion House records list he left a widow named Ethel Isabel [no maiden name] with 2 children (Dorothy and Eric, ages unknown) living in Southampton. No other information has been uncovered so far, except that the widow remarried (and apparently [placed her children in an orphanage for a while). Marriage date and place is NOT known. How can I locate the correct marriage if I do not know the bride's maiden name or where it was held? One thought was that the wedding announcement may have been placed in the groom's town newspaper as well as the wife's town newspaper, as it is often done in the US these days. But how to I locate this, and was it a custom in the 1890-1910 time frame to announce weddings? Ralph __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? New and Improved Yahoo! Mail - 100MB free storage! http://promotions.yahoo.com/new_mail ==== ENG-CAMBRIDGESHIRE Mailing List ==== .

Hello from Derby UK. We just had a quick look on FreeBMD but weren't able to find the marriage - you've probably tried that before. There were a couple of marriages for an Arthur Barringer, one of them in Newmarket near Cambridge but it was to an Eliza Emma HAYDON. But we did find the birth ref. for him, and we suspect you already have that too. It has his full name Arthur William BARRINGER Mar 1878 Cambridge 3b 491. And the IGI shows his parents as William BARRINGER and Mary A. The family also appear on the 1881 census with a visitor who looks like Mary's mother, Lucy (Beard?) from Hardwick. But that still doesn't help with finding Arthur's wife's maiden name! We looked for baptisms of Dorothy and Eric, and there were several Dorothy's but no Eric's. One was Dorothy Agnes BARRINGER registered in St Neots 3b 282 in Sep 1904, and if this was the one the birth certificate would give the mother's maiden name. You can buy the certificate online, but there are several other choices and we would have had more confidence if Eric had been there too. So we've probably not been much help to you, but like all of us the challenge goes on and on! Best wishes, Paul & Lesley -----Original Message----- From: R D [mailto:find_family@yahoo.com] Sent: 06 September 2004 20:12 To: ENG-CAMBRIDGESHIRE-L@rootsweb.com Subject: [ENG-CAMB] Arthur William BARRINGER - seeking marriage info Hello again from Chicago. One of my grandmother's elder brothers was a 1st class saloon steward on RMS Titanic, according to Encyclopedia-Titanica from which I received most of my information so far (this site has an ongoing project for creating biographies of all crew members). Arthur William Barringer, b 1878 Cambridge, D Apr 1912 (drowned on RMS Titanic) Mansion House records list he left a widow named Ethel Isabel [no maiden name] with 2 children (Dorothy and Eric, ages unknown) living in Southampton. No other information has been uncovered so far, except that the widow remarried (and apparently [placed her children in an orphanage for a while). Marriage date and place is NOT known. How can I locate the correct marriage if I do not know the bride's maiden name or where it was held? One thought was that the wedding announcement may have been placed in the groom's town newspaper as well as the wife's town newspaper, as it is often done in the US these days. But how to I locate this, and was it a custom in the 1890-1910 time frame to announce weddings? Ralph __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? New and Improved Yahoo! Mail - 100MB free storage! http://promotions.yahoo.com/new_mail ==== ENG-CAMBRIDGESHIRE Mailing List ==== .

Hi Ralph found these on the igi which would need to be checked ARTHUR WILLIAM BARRINGER birth march q 1878 COMBERTON CAMBRIDGE death 15 april 1912 at sea father WILLIAM BARRINGER mother MARY A WILLIAM BARRINGER married MARY ANN BAIRD 14 oct 1871 HARDWICK children to William and Mary Ann JABEZ birth 11 jan 1872 christened 7 march HARDWICK JAMES birth 1872 HARDWICK WALTER birth 1874 COMBERTON SARAH E birth 1879 CAMBRIDGE FLORENCE G birth 1881 CAMBRIDGE On the 1881 census his father is a police constable age 27 folio 82 page 34 film no 1341397 also found JABEZ BARRINGER burial 15 dec 1885 age 13 cambridge st andrew the less theres also a WILLIAM BARRINGER burial 22 aug 1883 age 1 same place. did find a birth of a DOROTHY BARRINGER 1904 sept q ST NEOTS cambridgeshire/huntingdon/bedfordshire vol 3b page 282 hope these help in some way best wishes wendy.Leicester ----- Original Message ----- From: "R D" <find_family@yahoo.com> To: <ENG-CAMBRIDGESHIRE-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Monday, September 06, 2004 8:11 PM Subject: [ENG-CAMB] Arthur William BARRINGER - seeking marriage info > Hello again from Chicago. > > One of my grandmother's elder brothers was a 1st class > saloon steward on RMS Titanic, according to > Encyclopedia-Titanica from which I received most of my > information so far (this site has an ongoing project > for creating biographies of all crew members). > > Arthur William Barringer, > b 1878 Cambridge, > D Apr 1912 (drowned on RMS Titanic) > > Mansion House records list he left a widow named Ethel > Isabel [no maiden name] with 2 children (Dorothy and > Eric, ages unknown) living in Southampton. No other > information has been uncovered so far, except that the > widow remarried (and apparently [placed her children > in an orphanage for a while). > > Marriage date and place is NOT known. How can I > locate the correct marriage if I do not know the > bride's maiden name or where it was held? > > One thought was that the wedding announcement may have > been placed in the groom's town newspaper as well as > the wife's town newspaper, as it is often done in the > US these days. But how to I locate this, and was it a > custom in the 1890-1910 time frame to announce > weddings? > > Ralph > > > > > > > > __________________________________ > Do you Yahoo!? > New and Improved Yahoo! Mail - 100MB free storage! > http://promotions.yahoo.com/new_mail > > > ==== ENG-CAMBRIDGESHIRE Mailing List ==== > . >