Hi Robyn I do indeed have a William Clark in my tree, who is James's grandfather. I do not have any details about him, but I would estimate he would have been born around 1760-1770. I have not yet found a link to the Rider family, but the timescale could fit. I'll keep looking. Philip ----- Original Message ----- From: "Robyn Smith" <rlsmith@robalsmith.id.au> To: <ENG-CAMBRIDGESHIRE-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Monday, September 27, 2004 12:25 AM Subject: RE: [ENG-CAMB] 1861 Lookup Please CLARK - Guilden Morden > This is a case of synchronicity! > > I was transcribing a will for one Joseph RIDER (1746-1810) of Little > Shelford last night and he mentioned his step-son William CLARK of (space) > Morden as a beneficiary. I would be interested to hear about how (if) this > William CLARK is related to the people on this census entry. > > Cheers -- Robyn Smith -- Sydney, Australia > Listowner ENG-CAMBRIDGESHIRE, ENGLISH-FENS at www.Rootsweb.com > List admin ENG-CAMBRIDGESHIRE, GEN-WebDesign, OPC-CAM-Little-Shelford, > OPC-CAM-Brinkley, OPC-DEV-Bickington at www.British-Genealogy.com > Family History Web Site http://www.robalsmith.id.au > Little Shelford Web Site http://shelford.robalsmith.id.au/ > > -----Original Message----- > From: Paula Patterson [mailto:pmlp@malwa.plus.com] > Sent: Monday, September 27, 2004 8:01 AM > To: ENG-CAMBRIDGESHIRE-L@rootsweb.com > Subject: Re: [ENG-CAMB] 1861 Lookup Please CLARK - Guilden Morden > > Philip > > Can't help with 1861 census but can supply the 1871 & 1891 census entries > which seem to have some of the answers you want.. > > 1871 census: > James CLARK Head 39 b Guilden Morden, Cambridgeshire, England Emma CLARK > Wife 36 b Guilden Morden, Cambridgeshire, England Elizabeth CLARK Daur 18 b > Guilden Morden, Cambridgeshire, England Mary A CLARK Daur 13 b Guilden > Morden, Cambridgeshire, England Fanny CLARK Daur 11 b Guilden Morden, > Cambridgeshire, England Frederick J CLARK Son 9 b Guilden Morden, > Cambridgeshire, England Thomas CLARK Son 9 b Guilden Morden, Cambridgeshire, > England Eliza CLARK Daur 6 b Guilden Morden, Cambridgeshire, England > Montford G CLARK Son 2 b Guilden Morden, Cambridgeshire, England > > The Baulk, Biggleswade, Bedfordshire > William CLARKE Head Mar 35 Grocer's porter b Biggleswade, Beds Selina CLARKE > Wife Mar 33 b Potton, Beds > Elizabeth CLARKE Daur 7 b Biggleswade, Beds > Selina CLARKE Neice(sic) Unmar 14 Visitor b Guilden Morden, Cambs > > > The census entry would tend to make you think that the marriage of James & > Emma was before or around 1852. > Camdex http://www2.cambridgeshire.gov.uk/db/ridmars.nsf/search?OpenForm > has 2 marriages which took place in Guilden Morden around this time (you can > tell the parish as the reference number has 082 which refers to GM). > 1852 James CLARK m Jane BROWN (which accounts for the other James CLARK & > family in GM in the 1871 census) > 1853 James CLARK m Emma BAULK > > This ties in quite nicely with the 1891 census which has: > Church Road, Guilden Morden > James CLARK Head M 59 Agricultural labourer b G Morden, Cambridgeshire Emma > CLARK Wife M 55 b G Morden, Cambridgeshire Emma Jane CLARK Daur S 14 b G > Morden, Cambridgeshire William Paul CLARK Son S 11 b G Morden, > Cambridgeshire Samuel BAULK Father in law Widr 82 b G Morden, Cambridgeshire > > and the CFHS site http://www.cfhs.org.uk/Search.html > has a 5 year old Emma BAULK in the 1841 census with her parents Samuel & > Mary BAULK and > 15 year old Emma BAULK in the 1851 census with her parents Samuel & Mary > BAULK > > HTH > > Paula > > > > > > > ==== ENG-CAMBRIDGESHIRE Mailing List ==== . > > > > > > > ==== ENG-CAMBRIDGESHIRE Mailing List ==== > . >

I have a Thomas Clark b. abt 1740 m Elizabeth Rider 23/10/1770 Little Shelford, His brother William Clark bap 12/02/1732 m Alice Cornell 11/10/1757 at Little Shelford following his death in Jan 1767 Alice m Joseph Rider 28/11/1769 also at little Shelford. The William Clark mentioned in the Will of Joseph Rider is his step son the child of William Clark and Alice Cornell. Cheers Syd ----- Original Message ----- From: "Philip West" <Philip@midholm1.fsnet.co.uk> To: <ENG-CAMBRIDGESHIRE-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Sunday, October 03, 2004 9:56 PM Subject: Re: [ENG-CAMB] 1861 Lookup Please CLARK - Guilden Morden > Hi Robyn > > I do indeed have a William Clark in my tree, who is James's grandfather. I > do not have any details about him, but I would estimate he would have been > born around 1760-1770. I have not yet found a link to the Rider family, > but > the timescale could fit. > > I'll keep looking. > > Philip > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Robyn Smith" <rlsmith@robalsmith.id.au> > To: <ENG-CAMBRIDGESHIRE-L@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Monday, September 27, 2004 12:25 AM > Subject: RE: [ENG-CAMB] 1861 Lookup Please CLARK - Guilden Morden > > >> This is a case of synchronicity! >> >> I was transcribing a will for one Joseph RIDER (1746-1810) of Little >> Shelford last night and he mentioned his step-son William CLARK of >> (space) >> Morden as a beneficiary. I would be interested to hear about how (if) >> this >> William CLARK is related to the people on this census entry. >> >> Cheers -- Robyn Smith -- Sydney, Australia >> Listowner ENG-CAMBRIDGESHIRE, ENGLISH-FENS at www.Rootsweb.com >> List admin ENG-CAMBRIDGESHIRE, GEN-WebDesign, OPC-CAM-Little-Shelford, >> OPC-CAM-Brinkley, OPC-DEV-Bickington at www.British-Genealogy.com >> Family History Web Site http://www.robalsmith.id.au >> Little Shelford Web Site http://shelford.robalsmith.id.au/ >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: Paula Patterson [mailto:pmlp@malwa.plus.com] >> Sent: Monday, September 27, 2004 8:01 AM >> To: ENG-CAMBRIDGESHIRE-L@rootsweb.com >> Subject: Re: [ENG-CAMB] 1861 Lookup Please CLARK - Guilden Morden >> >> Philip >> >> Can't help with 1861 census but can supply the 1871 & 1891 census entries >> which seem to have some of the answers you want.. >> >> 1871 census: >> James CLARK Head 39 b Guilden Morden, Cambridgeshire, England Emma CLARK >> Wife 36 b Guilden Morden, Cambridgeshire, England Elizabeth CLARK Daur 18 > b >> Guilden Morden, Cambridgeshire, England Mary A CLARK Daur 13 b Guilden >> Morden, Cambridgeshire, England Fanny CLARK Daur 11 b Guilden Morden, >> Cambridgeshire, England Frederick J CLARK Son 9 b Guilden Morden, >> Cambridgeshire, England Thomas CLARK Son 9 b Guilden Morden, > Cambridgeshire, >> England Eliza CLARK Daur 6 b Guilden Morden, Cambridgeshire, England >> Montford G CLARK Son 2 b Guilden Morden, Cambridgeshire, England >> >> The Baulk, Biggleswade, Bedfordshire >> William CLARKE Head Mar 35 Grocer's porter b Biggleswade, Beds Selina > CLARKE >> Wife Mar 33 b Potton, Beds >> Elizabeth CLARKE Daur 7 b Biggleswade, Beds >> Selina CLARKE Neice(sic) Unmar 14 Visitor b Guilden Morden, Cambs >> >> >> The census entry would tend to make you think that the marriage of James >> & >> Emma was before or around 1852. >> Camdex http://www2.cambridgeshire.gov.uk/db/ridmars.nsf/search?OpenForm >> has 2 marriages which took place in Guilden Morden around this time (you > can >> tell the parish as the reference number has 082 which refers to GM). >> 1852 James CLARK m Jane BROWN (which accounts for the other James CLARK & >> family in GM in the 1871 census) >> 1853 James CLARK m Emma BAULK >> >> This ties in quite nicely with the 1891 census which has: >> Church Road, Guilden Morden >> James CLARK Head M 59 Agricultural labourer b G Morden, Cambridgeshire > Emma >> CLARK Wife M 55 b G Morden, Cambridgeshire Emma Jane CLARK Daur S 14 b G >> Morden, Cambridgeshire William Paul CLARK Son S 11 b G Morden, >> Cambridgeshire Samuel BAULK Father in law Widr 82 b G Morden, > Cambridgeshire >> >> and the CFHS site http://www.cfhs.org.uk/Search.html >> has a 5 year old Emma BAULK in the 1841 census with her parents Samuel & >> Mary BAULK and >> 15 year old Emma BAULK in the 1851 census with her parents Samuel & Mary >> BAULK >> >> HTH >> >> Paula >> >> >> >> >> >> >> ==== ENG-CAMBRIDGESHIRE Mailing List ==== . >> >> >> >> >> >> >> ==== ENG-CAMBRIDGESHIRE Mailing List ==== >> . >> > > > ==== ENG-CAMBRIDGESHIRE Mailing List ==== > . >

Hi Syd, This ties in with what I had, but at the moment, I am having serious doubts as to whether I have the right family. My great grandfather was Joel Clark who was born in Guilden Morden around 1832, but I cannot prove his parents names. I thought I had them sorted, but I now have my doubts and am wondering if I am pursuing the correct family line. I know his father was James, but there are two of them about at this time. The one I originally thought was right does indeed tie in with your information, but I have the feeling I may be wrong. Philip ----- Original Message ----- From: "Syd Ryder" <SydRyder@bigpond.net.au> To: <ENG-CAMBRIDGESHIRE-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Monday, October 04, 2004 10:03 AM Subject: Re: [ENG-CAMB] 1861 Lookup Please CLARK - Guilden Morden > I have a Thomas Clark b. abt 1740 m Elizabeth Rider 23/10/1770 Little > Shelford, > His brother William Clark bap 12/02/1732 m Alice Cornell 11/10/1757 at > Little Shelford following his death in Jan 1767 Alice m Joseph Rider > 28/11/1769 also at little Shelford. > > The William Clark mentioned in the Will of Joseph Rider is his step son the > child of William Clark and Alice Cornell. > > Cheers > > Syd > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Philip West" <Philip@midholm1.fsnet.co.uk> > To: <ENG-CAMBRIDGESHIRE-L@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Sunday, October 03, 2004 9:56 PM > Subject: Re: [ENG-CAMB] 1861 Lookup Please CLARK - Guilden Morden > > > > Hi Robyn > > > > I do indeed have a William Clark in my tree, who is James's grandfather. I > > do not have any details about him, but I would estimate he would have been > > born around 1760-1770. I have not yet found a link to the Rider family, > > but > > the timescale could fit. > > > > I'll keep looking. > > > > Philip > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: "Robyn Smith" <rlsmith@robalsmith.id.au> > > To: <ENG-CAMBRIDGESHIRE-L@rootsweb.com> > > Sent: Monday, September 27, 2004 12:25 AM > > Subject: RE: [ENG-CAMB] 1861 Lookup Please CLARK - Guilden Morden > > > > > >> This is a case of synchronicity! > >> > >> I was transcribing a will for one Joseph RIDER (1746-1810) of Little > >> Shelford last night and he mentioned his step-son William CLARK of > >> (space) > >> Morden as a beneficiary. I would be interested to hear about how (if) > >> this > >> William CLARK is related to the people on this census entry. > >> > >> Cheers -- Robyn Smith -- Sydney, Australia > >> Listowner ENG-CAMBRIDGESHIRE, ENGLISH-FENS at www.Rootsweb.com > >> List admin ENG-CAMBRIDGESHIRE, GEN-WebDesign, OPC-CAM-Little-Shelford, > >> OPC-CAM-Brinkley, OPC-DEV-Bickington at www.British-Genealogy.com > >> Family History Web Site http://www.robalsmith.id.au > >> Little Shelford Web Site http://shelford.robalsmith.id.au/ > >> > >> -----Original Message----- > >> From: Paula Patterson [mailto:pmlp@malwa.plus.com] > >> Sent: Monday, September 27, 2004 8:01 AM > >> To: ENG-CAMBRIDGESHIRE-L@rootsweb.com > >> Subject: Re: [ENG-CAMB] 1861 Lookup Please CLARK - Guilden Morden > >> > >> Philip > >> > >> Can't help with 1861 census but can supply the 1871 & 1891 census entries > >> which seem to have some of the answers you want.. > >> > >> 1871 census: > >> James CLARK Head 39 b Guilden Morden, Cambridgeshire, England Emma CLARK > >> Wife 36 b Guilden Morden, Cambridgeshire, England Elizabeth CLARK Daur 18 > > b > >> Guilden Morden, Cambridgeshire, England Mary A CLARK Daur 13 b Guilden > >> Morden, Cambridgeshire, England Fanny CLARK Daur 11 b Guilden Morden, > >> Cambridgeshire, England Frederick J CLARK Son 9 b Guilden Morden, > >> Cambridgeshire, England Thomas CLARK Son 9 b Guilden Morden, > > Cambridgeshire, > >> England Eliza CLARK Daur 6 b Guilden Morden, Cambridgeshire, England > >> Montford G CLARK Son 2 b Guilden Morden, Cambridgeshire, England > >> > >> The Baulk, Biggleswade, Bedfordshire > >> William CLARKE Head Mar 35 Grocer's porter b Biggleswade, Beds Selina > > CLARKE > >> Wife Mar 33 b Potton, Beds > >> Elizabeth CLARKE Daur 7 b Biggleswade, Beds > >> Selina CLARKE Neice(sic) Unmar 14 Visitor b Guilden Morden, Cambs > >> > >> > >> The census entry would tend to make you think that the marriage of James > >> & > >> Emma was before or around 1852. > >> Camdex http://www2.cambridgeshire.gov.uk/db/ridmars.nsf/search?OpenForm > >> has 2 marriages which took place in Guilden Morden around this time (you > > can > >> tell the parish as the reference number has 082 which refers to GM). > >> 1852 James CLARK m Jane BROWN (which accounts for the other James CLARK & > >> family in GM in the 1871 census) > >> 1853 James CLARK m Emma BAULK > >> > >> This ties in quite nicely with the 1891 census which has: > >> Church Road, Guilden Morden > >> James CLARK Head M 59 Agricultural labourer b G Morden, Cambridgeshire > > Emma > >> CLARK Wife M 55 b G Morden, Cambridgeshire Emma Jane CLARK Daur S 14 b G > >> Morden, Cambridgeshire William Paul CLARK Son S 11 b G Morden, > >> Cambridgeshire Samuel BAULK Father in law Widr 82 b G Morden, > > Cambridgeshire > >> > >> and the CFHS site http://www.cfhs.org.uk/Search.html > >> has a 5 year old Emma BAULK in the 1841 census with her parents Samuel & > >> Mary BAULK and > >> 15 year old Emma BAULK in the 1851 census with her parents Samuel & Mary > >> BAULK > >> > >> HTH > >> > >> Paula > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> ==== ENG-CAMBRIDGESHIRE Mailing List ==== . > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> ==== ENG-CAMBRIDGESHIRE Mailing List ==== > >> . > >> > > > > > > ==== ENG-CAMBRIDGESHIRE Mailing List ==== > > . > > > > > ==== ENG-CAMBRIDGESHIRE Mailing List ==== > . >