Philip, I suspect that there may be a relationship here as I see that there are other members of this group in Guilden Morden. I am sending you a tree separately for your information but, interestingly, as well as the step parent relationship between the William CLARK and Joseph RIDER that I mentioned, this family is also related directly to the RIDERs through their connection to the FROST family further back in the tree. Cheers -- Robyn Smith -- Sydney, Australia Listowner ENG-CAMBRIDGESHIRE, ENGLISH-FENS at www.Rootsweb.com List admin ENG-CAMBRIDGESHIRE, GEN-WebDesign, OPC-CAM-Little-Shelford, OPC-CAM-Brinkley, OPC-DEV-Bickington at www.British-Genealogy.com Family History Web Site http://www.robalsmith.id.au Little Shelford Web Site http://shelford.robalsmith.id.au/ ----- Original Message ----- From: "Philip West" <Philip@midholm1.fsnet.co.uk> To: <ENG-CAMBRIDGESHIRE-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Sunday, October 03, 2004 9:56 PM Subject: Re: [ENG-CAMB] 1861 Lookup Please CLARK - Guilden Morden > Hi Robyn > > I do indeed have a William Clark in my tree, who is James's grandfather. I > do not have any details about him, but I would estimate he would have been > born around 1760-1770. I have not yet found a link to the Rider family, > but > the timescale could fit. > > I'll keep looking. > > Philip > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Robyn Smith" <rlsmith@robalsmith.id.au> > To: <ENG-CAMBRIDGESHIRE-L@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Monday, September 27, 2004 12:25 AM > Subject: RE: [ENG-CAMB] 1861 Lookup Please CLARK - Guilden Morden > > >> This is a case of synchronicity! >> >> I was transcribing a will for one Joseph RIDER (1746-1810) of Little >> Shelford last night and he mentioned his step-son William CLARK of >> (space) >> Morden as a beneficiary. I would be interested to hear about how (if) >> this >> William CLARK is related to the people on this census entry. >> >> Cheers -- Robyn Smith -- Sydney, Australia >> Listowner ENG-CAMBRIDGESHIRE, ENGLISH-FENS at www.Rootsweb.com >> List admin ENG-CAMBRIDGESHIRE, GEN-WebDesign, OPC-CAM-Little-Shelford, >> OPC-CAM-Brinkley, OPC-DEV-Bickington at www.British-Genealogy.com >> Family History Web Site http://www.robalsmith.id.au >> Little Shelford Web Site http://shelford.robalsmith.id.au/ >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: Paula Patterson [mailto:pmlp@malwa.plus.com] >> Sent: Monday, September 27, 2004 8:01 AM >> To: ENG-CAMBRIDGESHIRE-L@rootsweb.com >> Subject: Re: [ENG-CAMB] 1861 Lookup Please CLARK - Guilden Morden >> >> Philip >> >> Can't help with 1861 census but can supply the 1871 & 1891 census entries >> which seem to have some of the answers you want.. >> >> 1871 census: >> James CLARK Head 39 b Guilden Morden, Cambridgeshire, England Emma CLARK >> Wife 36 b Guilden Morden, Cambridgeshire, England Elizabeth CLARK Daur 18 > b >> Guilden Morden, Cambridgeshire, England Mary A CLARK Daur 13 b Guilden >> Morden, Cambridgeshire, England Fanny CLARK Daur 11 b Guilden Morden, >> Cambridgeshire, England Frederick J CLARK Son 9 b Guilden Morden, >> Cambridgeshire, England Thomas CLARK Son 9 b Guilden Morden, > Cambridgeshire, >> England Eliza CLARK Daur 6 b Guilden Morden, Cambridgeshire, England >> Montford G CLARK Son 2 b Guilden Morden, Cambridgeshire, England >> >> The Baulk, Biggleswade, Bedfordshire >> William CLARKE Head Mar 35 Grocer's porter b Biggleswade, Beds Selina > CLARKE >> Wife Mar 33 b Potton, Beds >> Elizabeth CLARKE Daur 7 b Biggleswade, Beds >> Selina CLARKE Neice(sic) Unmar 14 Visitor b Guilden Morden, Cambs >> >> >> The census entry would tend to make you think that the marriage of James >> & >> Emma was before or around 1852. >> Camdex http://www2.cambridgeshire.gov.uk/db/ridmars.nsf/search?OpenForm >> has 2 marriages which took place in Guilden Morden around this time (you > can >> tell the parish as the reference number has 082 which refers to GM). >> 1852 James CLARK m Jane BROWN (which accounts for the other James CLARK & >> family in GM in the 1871 census) >> 1853 James CLARK m Emma BAULK >> >> This ties in quite nicely with the 1891 census which has: >> Church Road, Guilden Morden >> James CLARK Head M 59 Agricultural labourer b G Morden, Cambridgeshire > Emma >> CLARK Wife M 55 b G Morden, Cambridgeshire Emma Jane CLARK Daur S 14 b G >> Morden, Cambridgeshire William Paul CLARK Son S 11 b G Morden, >> Cambridgeshire Samuel BAULK Father in law Widr 82 b G Morden, > Cambridgeshire >> >> and the CFHS site http://www.cfhs.org.uk/Search.html >> has a 5 year old Emma BAULK in the 1841 census with her parents Samuel & >> Mary BAULK and >> 15 year old Emma BAULK in the 1851 census with her parents Samuel & Mary >> BAULK >> >> HTH >> >> Paula >> >> >> >> >> >> >> ==== ENG-CAMBRIDGESHIRE Mailing List ==== . >> >> >> >> >> >> >> ==== ENG-CAMBRIDGESHIRE Mailing List ==== >> . >> > > > ==== ENG-CAMBRIDGESHIRE Mailing List ==== > . > ==== ENG-CAMBRIDGESHIRE Mailing List ==== .