These are the HAWKINS in Thorney on the 1851 Census Index at Thorney. Note that Edward and the younger John are enumerated away from family of John and Mary, The younger Mary is probably a granddaughter: HAWKINS John 61 Thorney HO107/1747 957A HAWKINS Mary 58 Thorney HO107/1747 957A HAWKINS Rebecca 20 Thorney HO107/1747 957A HAWKINS Sarah J 9 Thorney HO107/1747 957A HAWKINS Mary 4 Thorney HO107/1747 957A HAWKINS Edward 16 Thorney HO107/1747 972B HAWKINS John 20 Thorney HO107/1747 991B Here is this same family on the 1841 census. Again, note that there is a younger John Hawkins, not enumerated with the famiy of John & Mary. Surname Forenames Age Parish or Town Film Folio HAWKINS Mary 75 Thorney HO107/78/10 16B HAWKINS John 50 Thorney HO107/78/11 6B HAWKINS Mary 45 Thorney HO107/78/11 6B HAWKINS William 20 Thorney HO107/78/11 6B HAWKINS George 13 Thorney HO107/78/11 6B HAWKINS James 10 Thorney HO107/78/11 6B HAWKINS Rebecca 8 Thorney HO107/78/11 6B HAWKINS Edward 6 Thorney HO107/78/11 6B HAWKINS John 18 Thorney HO107/78/13 5A Following is the Younger JOhn Hawkins in the 1881 census. This is at www.familysearch.org: ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- ---- Household: Name Relation Marital Status Gender Age Birthplace Occupation Disability John HAWKINS Head M Male 58 Thorney, Cambridge, England Ag Lab Ann HAWKINS Wife M Female 49 Thorney, Cambridge, England Hannah HAWKINS Daur U Female 21 Parson Drove, Cambridge, England George HAWKINS Son U Male 19 Sutton St Edmund, Lincoln, England Ag Lab Edward HAWKINS Son Male 12 Sutton St Edmund, Lincoln, England Scholar Fred M. HAWKINS Son Male 10 Sutton St Edmund, Lincoln, England Scholar Ada HAWKINS Daur Female 5 Sutton St Edmund, Lincoln, England Scholar Henry BOWMAN Visitor U Male 19 Spalding, Lincoln, England Ag Lab ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- ---- Source Information: Census Place Sutton St Edmunds, Lincoln, England Family History Library Film 1341764 Public Records Office Reference RG11 Piece / Folio 3207 / 20 Following is the Baptismal index of all Hawkins Baptised in Thorney 1801-1837. Note that, per the asterisk, if you look at the parish records there is additional information available. It does confirm that the younger John Hawkins is the son of John and Mary. Year Surname Forenames Age Abode Parents Parish Indictator 1802 HAWKINS Alice - ----- d. of William & Mary Thorney - 1834 HAWKINS Edward - ----- s. of John & Mary Thorney * 1828 HAWKINS George - ----- s. of John & Mary Thorney * 1832 HAWKINS James - ----- s. of John & Mary Thorney * 1823 HAWKINS John - ----- s. of John & Mary Thorney * 1821 HAWKINS Mary A. - ----- d. of John & Mary Thorney * 1827 HAWKINS Rebecca - ----- d. of John & Mary Thorney * 1830 HAWKINS Rebecca - ----- d. of John & Mary Thorney * 1825 HAWKINS Robert - ----- s. of John & Mary Thorney * 1818 HAWKINS William - ----- s. of John & Mary Thorney * There are only a few burials 1801 to 1837, as follows: Year Surname Forenames Age Abode Condition Parish Indictator 1805 HAWKINS Alice inf ----- ----- Thorney Abbey - 1807 HAWKINS Ann 9 ----- ----- Thorney Abbey - 1815 HAWKINS John 72 ----- ----- Thorney Abbey - 1827 HAWKINS Rebecca 7w ----- ----- Thorney Abbey - 1805 HAWKINS Sarah 10 ----- ----- Thorney Abbey - 1830 HAWKINS William 64 ----- ----- Thorney Abbey - -----Original Message----- From: Viv Hawley [mailto:vivahawley@btopenworld.com] Sent: Friday, August 06, 2004 11:30 AM To: ENG-CAMBRIDGESHIRE-L@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [ENG-CAMB] 1861 and 71 census - John & Mary Ann HAWKINS in Thorney Hi Mary I've looked through the whole of Thorney on the 1871 census (online at Ancestry), having failed to find either John or Mary Ann by use of the index, and can't find them anywhere in Thorney. Do you think they were still alive in 1871? I also have the 1861 census for Cambridgeshire on CDs, but when I looked for Thorney on the index I couldn't find it - I wonder if anyone else on the list knows why this is? Best wishes Viv ----- Original Message ----- From: "Mary Woollaston" <m.woollaston@xtra.co.nz> To: <ENG-CAMBRIDGESHIRE-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Friday, August 06, 2004 6:45 AM Subject: [ENG-CAMB] 1861 and 71 census > Can anyone help me locate John Hawkins and Mary Ann (formerly Brown) on the 1861 or 1871 census in the Causeway, Thorney. ==== ENG-CAMBRIDGESHIRE Mailing List ==== .