Hi Paula, I did spot Pair 1 when I started looking into the connection and you're right - I can't discount them with the information I have. Pair 2 is slightly more likely due to William being a boarder in Foulmire on the 1861 census. Also, William died in 1884 so that would also support Esther being a Widow on the 1891 census. Thanks for the advise :) Tony Paula Patterson wrote: > I think you have to be really careful here as there seem to have been 2 sets > of William & Esther ARNOLD in the same area at that time. > > Both show up in the 1871 with one pair both born in Shelford and the other > with > William born in Whittlesford and Esther born in Foulmire. > > Pair 1: Both born Shelford, Cambs with William an Ag Lab. Appeared in 1871, > 1881, 1891 and 1901 living in Great Shelford. In 1871 both living with > Thomas & Lydia FLITTON. Camdex has a marriage for a William ARNOLD married > to an Esther FLITTON in 1864 which looks like this pairing. > > Pair 2: William born Whittlesford and a baker, and Esther/Hester born > Foulmire. Were in Barley in 1871 and 1881, and Esther/Hester was in Barley > in 1891 as a widow. I can't see her in 1901. In each of 1871, 1881 and 1891 > she consistently gave her place of birth as Foulmire and age as 34/45/55 > giving an approximate year of birth of 1836. Camdex has no entry for them > but FreeBMD shows a marriage in Dec quarter 1861 in Royston Reg District > (which covers Fowlmere/Foulmire and Barley) of a William ARNOLD to either an > Esther Sarah COURSE or an Emma WOODS. There is also a death in 1895 in > Royston Reg District of a Hester Sarah ARNOLD age 58 which seems to back the > 1861 marriage as the correct one for this pair. > > You could always get a birth certificate for the child that you know for > sure is in your direct line and see what the mother's maiden name is from > that before getting a potentially wrong marraige certificate. > > Paula > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Tony Pottrell" <[email protected]> > To: <[email protected]> > Sent: Wednesday, April 04, 2007 8:07 PM > Subject: Re: [ENG-CAMS] ARNOLD Marriages > > > >> Hi Thelma, >> >> Thanks for looking for me, I'll investigate them further and see if they >> lead to a potential candidate. >> >> It is clearly Esther on the 1871 census (Herts / Barley / District 6 / >> Page 9 on Ancestry). >> >> From the 1861 census I can see William living as a lodger in Foulmire ( >> Cambs / Foulmire / D6 / Page 25) so this is presumably where he met >> Esther. >> >> On the 1901 census, Esther stated her place of birth as Great Shelford. >> I believe this to be accurate, as she stated this as well in the 1861 >> census (Cambs / Great Shelford / D1 / Page 37). >> >> Looking through the 1851 census, there are a couple of candidates, but I >> believe the most likely is Esther Course (Age 15) on Cambs / Foulmire / >> D10a / Page 6. I've found this Esther's christening record on the IGI. >> >> I couldn't find any record of a marriage to William Arnold, which I've >> found in the BMD index in 1864. What do you reckon? Looks like I'll >> have to buy William / Esther's marriage certificate! >> >> Tony >> >> Thelma Wigley wrote: >> >>> Tony, >>> I've been right through the Foulmire pages for 1851and the only Esther I >>> could find is this one >>> >>> HO107/1708 F.132-143 Foulmire >>> >>> Page 6 High Street >>> John COURSE, head, mrd, 37, Tailor Master, b.Foulmire >>> Sarah, wife, 35, do >>> ESTHER, dau, 15, scholar, do >>> Naomi, dau, 12, do >>> >>> There is also this Hester: >>> >>> Page 2 >>> Hester Churchman, head, widow, Pauper (Ag.Lab's widow) b.Foulmire >>> Sarah, dau, unm, 20, Ag.Lab. principally, >>> do >>> Mary, dau, unm, 18, do >>> do >>> HESTER, dau, 14, employed at home, >>> do >>> >>> Thelma >>> ----- Original Message ----- >>> From: "Tony Pottrell" <[email protected]> >>> To: <[email protected]> >>> Sent: Wednesday, April 04, 2007 10:06 AM >>> Subject: [ENG-CAMS] ARNOLD Marriages >>> >>> >>> >>> >>>> Hello all, >>>> >>>> I've more or less finished my POTTRELL line, and I've started to fill in >>>> the blanks on the paternal maternal lines (if that makes sense!). >>>> >>>> First up, is my ARNOLD connection - to be precise: >>>> >>>> Charles ARNOLD, born circa 1812 in Thriplow who married a Mary. Mary >>>> was born c1814 in Henfield in Sussex. >>>> >>>> and one of their sons: >>>> >>>> William ARNOLD, born c1838 in Whittlesford who married an Esther. >>>> Esther was born c1837 in Foulmere/Foulmire. >>>> >>>> Both father and son appear to have been in the baking profession. >>>> >>>> Does anyone have any record of these guys? >>>> >>>> Thanks in advance, >>>> >>>> Tony >>>> >>>> ------------------------------- >>>> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >>>> [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' >>>> without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >>>> >>>> >>>> >>> >>> ------------------------------- >>> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >>> [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' >>> without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >>> >>> >>> >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' >> without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >> >> -- >> This email has been verified as Virus free >> Virus Protection and more available at http://www.plus.net >> >> >> -- >> No virus found in this incoming message. >> Checked by AVG Free Edition. >> Version: 7.5.446 / Virus Database: 268.18.26/746 - Release Date: >> 04/04/2007 13:09 >> >> >> > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > >