Hi Mark ! Nivard's suggestion (below) is a very good one as the word will spread around East Anglia much more quickly ! - and one county that you should definitely look at is Essex, as the well-known thriller writer Bernard CORNWELL came from there ! That is why he uses the "South Essex Regiment" in his "Sharpe" series of books and the TV series which developed from it. I also have a distant relative in my Family Tree who came from Essex and whose maiden name was CORNWELL ! Good Hunting ! Best Wishes ! Roger. -------------- Quoting Nivard Ovington <ovington1@sky.com>: > Hi Mark > > Just a thought but instead of posting one or two names on multiple lists, > why not list them all in one go > > Nivard Ovington in Cornwall (UK) > -------------------------------- > > > Dear Listers, > > This is a complete longshot - but I am hoping someone out there might be > > able to help? > > > > I have come across an old Army regimental photo in some family 'junk' but > > cannot see any obvious link to my family. To try to unearth a link but > > also > > out of interest I am trying to trace some of the soldiers named on the > > photo. > > The photo was taken of the '18 Medium Regiment of the Royal Artillery' in > > 1953. Possibly at the barrack HQ in Larkhill, Wiltshire, UK. > > > > In it there is a J. A. CORNWELL. > > > > My research tells me that CORNWEL is most common in Cambs, > > possibly from the Newmarket area?. > > > > Does anyone know anything about this man or can help me trace his > > descendents? > > > > Many thanks > > Mark > ---------------------------------------------- This mail sent through http://www.ukonline.net

Hi Mark Just a thought but instead of posting one or two names on multiple lists, why not list them all in one go Nivard Ovington in Cornwall (UK) > Dear Listers, > This is a complete longshot - but I am hoping someone out there might be > able to help? > > I have come across an old Army regimental photo in some family 'junk' but > cannot see any obvious link to my family. To try to unearth a link but > also > out of interest I am trying to trace some of the soldiers named on the > photo. > The photo was taken of the '18 Medium Regiment of the Royal Artillery' in > 1953. Possibly at the barrack HQ in Larkhill, Wiltshire, UK. > > In it there is a J. A. CORNWELL. > > My research tells me that CORNWEL is most common in Cambs, > possibly from the Newmarket area?. > > Does anyone know anything about this man or can help me trace his > descendents? > > Many thanks > Mark

Hi Mark, Have you tried the Suffolk list and any regimental websites? You could try posting on the following and see if they can help you.... http://www.artilleryclub.com/ra_comrades.html Hope it helps, Regards, Sally > From: markkirby1@sky.com > To: ENG-CAMBRIDGESHIRE@rootsweb.com > Date: Sun, 11 Oct 2009 14:54:07 -0700 > Subject: [ENG-CAMS] CORNWELL surname - Newmarket area? > > Dear Listers, > This is a complete longshot - but I am hoping someone out there might be > able to help? > > I have come across an old Army regimental photo in some family 'junk' but > cannot see any obvious link to my family. To try to unearth a link but also > out of interest I am trying to trace some of the soldiers named on the > photo. > The photo was taken of the '18 Medium Regiment of the Royal Artillery' in > 1953. Possibly at the barrack HQ in Larkhill, Wiltshire, UK. > > In it there is a J. A. CORNWELL. > > My research tells me that CORNWEL is most common in Cambs, > possibly from the Newmarket area?. > > Does anyone know anything about this man or can help me trace his > descendents? > > Many thanks > Mark > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to ENG-CAMBRIDGESHIRE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Dear Listers, This is a complete longshot - but I am hoping someone out there might be able to help? I have come across an old Army regimental photo in some family 'junk' but cannot see any obvious link to my family. To try to unearth a link but also out of interest I am trying to trace some of the soldiers named on the photo. The photo was taken of the '18 Medium Regiment of the Royal Artillery' in 1953. Possibly at the barrack HQ in Larkhill, Wiltshire, UK. In it there is a J. A. CORNWELL. My research tells me that CORNWEL is most common in Cambs, possibly from the Newmarket area?. Does anyone know anything about this man or can help me trace his descendents? Many thanks Mark

Hi, On the 1861 census, in Roxham, Norfolk, There is an Emma DAVIS aged 10 born in Ely. I have found her on Free BMD born Ely district in 1850. In 1861 she is living with Elizabeth CARNELL widow aged 77 from Southery, Norfolk. This Elizabeth is my husband's GGG Grandmother, and Emma DAVIS is listed as her grandaughter. I just can't fit this Emma DAVIS in anywhere. She doesn't seem to belong to any of Elizabeth's children! I can't find her on 1851 census where I thought I might be able to find out who her parents were. I have found her on all the other censuses but she seems to remain single and has no other relation living with her. I know I could order the birth certificate, but first I wondered if anyone has any knowledge of this Emma DAVIS and know who her parents were OR if anyone has access to Ely Parish records, maybe they could check her for me. Thanks Mo

Thank you Sally - again. That is a really useful site. Very much appreciated. Regards Carol Adams

Hello, I am new to the list and am hoping to find some information about the STINTON family who briefly moved to Swaffham Bullbeck from Horseheath at the end of the 1800s. I wonder if anyone has access to the Parish Registers of the village please. The birth of Frederick William STINTON (my Mother's cousin) was registered in the June Quarter of 1890 and the death of his father James in the March Quarter 1893; both in the Newmarket District. Can someone find if their respective baptism and burial are shown in the Parish Registers? I would appreciate any information and would be interested in contacting anyone with a connection to this family. Thank you and best wishes, Ted White, Burlington, Ontario

Hi again :o) You can also find out more by going to this website: http://www.historicaldirectories.org/hd/ ....Selecting Cambridgeshire and then entering the key words of Wantstead House. It appears as though it had a connection to the Ely Diocesean Girls' Friendly Society Lodge and Training Home. Regards, Sally ---------------------------------------- > From: Anadamsc@aol.com > Date: Mon, 5 Oct 2009 10:00:03 -0400 > To: ENG-CAMBRIDGESHIRE@rootsweb.com > Subject: [ENG-CAMS] Cambridge address query - 1861 census > > Hi > I am trying to find a little more about WANSTEAD HOUSE, Hills Road, > Cambridge. I have a possible connection with a Jane Siely b 1841 (Norfolk) who is > recorded as a servant there in 1861. It looks a bit like it might be a > school, having boarders recorded & 2 teachers & domestic servants. I have > tried googling. Does anyone have a directory where it is recorded? > > I can not find anymore about Jane, no marriage or death recorded. I would > be grateful for any suggestions. > > Thank you > Carol Adams > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to ENG-CAMBRIDGESHIRE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Hi, Not sure if this helps or not but it seems to be mentioned within the text of this website... http://www.wansteadpark.org.uk/arch4.htm Regards, Sally ---------------------------------------- > From: Anadamsc@aol.com > Date: Mon, 5 Oct 2009 10:00:03 -0400 > To: ENG-CAMBRIDGESHIRE@rootsweb.com > Subject: [ENG-CAMS] Cambridge address query - 1861 census > > Hi > I am trying to find a little more about WANSTEAD HOUSE, Hills Road, > Cambridge. I have a possible connection with a Jane Siely b 1841 (Norfolk) who is > recorded as a servant there in 1861. It looks a bit like it might be a > school, having boarders recorded & 2 teachers & domestic servants. I have > tried googling. Does anyone have a directory where it is recorded? > > I can not find anymore about Jane, no marriage or death recorded. I would > be grateful for any suggestions. > > Thank you > Carol Adams > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to ENG-CAMBRIDGESHIRE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Thank you Sally much appreciated Carol

Thanks for your reply Dawn. The missing baptism is a puzzle as I can trace her in census records in the area. At least we have more information to piece together now. Cheers Lynley ----- Original Message ----- From: "Dawn Webb" <dawnwebb@optusnet.com.au> To: <eng-cambridgeshire@rootsweb.com> Sent: Sunday, October 04, 2009 8:43 PM Subject: Re: [ENG-CAMS] Westley Waterless Parish records > Otp = of this parish. Which only means they are there for at least three > weeks before the marriage - ie whilst the banns are being called! It may > also mean, of course, they were born and lived there all their lives, but > you certainly can't assume that. > > I note too that two children were bapt in the same year - and one child > missed out - maybe the family waited till they were a few months old - or > years even - before the baptismal ceremony. Is there by any chance a > death > for the unbaptised child somewhere in there? Or perhaps she died very > close > to birth and it was a private baptism that was not noted in the register > at > the church. > > Dawn (Melbourne Australia) > > -----Original Message----- > From: eng-cambridgeshire-bounces@rootsweb.com > [mailto:eng-cambridgeshire-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Lynley > Chapman > Sent: Sunday, 4 October 2009 6:18 PM > To: eng-cambridgeshire@rootsweb.com > Subject: Re: [ENG-CAMS] Westley Waterless Parish records > > Hi Paula, > > Wow, thanks so much for your prompt reply with the details of this family. > Can you tell me what "otp" means please? > > Is there any way I can confirm Mary's maiden name please? I have Clements > and Briggs as possibilities. > > I am very grateful to you. > Kind regards > Lynley in freezing cold Whitby, NZ > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Paula Patterson" <psycholemon@gmail.com> > To: <eng-cambridgeshire@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Sunday, October 04, 2009 8:05 PM > Subject: Re: [ENG-CAMS] Westley Waterless Parish records > > >> Lynley Chapman wrote: >>> Hello listers, >>> >>> I live in New Zealand and am currently researching my JAGGARD family. I >>> have traced Samuel JAGGARD back to Westley Waterless in Cambridgeshire, >>> born c 1815. >>> >>> I have found baptism records on the CFHS website which seem to link >>> Samuel to John and Mary JAGGARD. Several possible siblings also are >>> listed with John and Mary as parents in this spot. >>> >>> Is there SKS who could check the full baptism records for me and email >>> me > >>> any extra information that appears on them please? >>> >>> The children I have are: >>> Samuel born c 1815 >>> William, born 1817 >>> Maria, born 1820 >>> Mary Elizabeth, born 1820 >>> Agatha, born 1823 >>> Benjamin, born 1825 >>> Ann, born 1827 >>> George, born 1828 >>> James, born 1828 >>> Henry J, born 1830. >>> >>> I appreciate any help that can be given. >>> Many thanks for your time, >>> Lynley Chapman >>> Whitby, Porirua, New Zealand >>> >>> ------------------------------- >>> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >>> ENG-CAMBRIDGESHIRE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' >>> without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >>> >>> >> At Westley Waterless: >> >> 11 June 1815 Samuel JAGGARD son of John JAGGARD otp coachman to Rev. Dr. >> VARENNE and Mary JAGGARD >> 8 October 1817 William JAGGARD son of John JAGGARD of Westley Rectory >> House coachman and Mary JAGGARD [The Bishop's Transcripts add that he >> was coachman to Revd Dr VARENNE] >> 25 April 1820 Mary Elizabeth JAGGARD daughter of John JAGGARD otp >> coachman to Rev. Dr. VARENNE and Mary JAGGARD >> 1 October 1820 Maria JAGGARD daughter of John JAGGARD otp coachman to >> Rev. Dr. VARENNE and Mary JAGGARD >> 18 March 1823 Agatha JAGGARD daughter of John JAGGARD otp servant and >> Mary JAGGARD [BT says 16 March] >> 17 April 1825 Benjamin Squires JAGGARD son of John JAGGARD otp farmer >> and Mary JAGGARD >> 25 September 1828 George JAGGARD son of John JAGGARD otp farmer and Mary >> JAGGARD [BT says 28 Sept] >> 25 September 1828 James JAGGARD son of John JAGGARD otp farmer and Mary >> JAGGARD [BT says 28 Sept] >> 11 July 1830 Henry John JAGGARD born 16 June 1830 son of John JAGGARD >> otp farmer and Mary JAGGARD >> >> I can't see a baptism for Ann born circa 1827 >> >> Paula >> >> >> >> >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> ENG-CAMBRIDGESHIRE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' >> without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > ENG-CAMBRIDGESHIRE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' > without > the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > __________ NOD32 4478 (20091003) Information __________ > > This message was checked by NOD32 antivirus system. > http://www.eset.com > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > ENG-CAMBRIDGESHIRE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' > without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Hi I am trying to find a little more about WANSTEAD HOUSE, Hills Road, Cambridge. I have a possible connection with a Jane Siely b 1841 (Norfolk) who is recorded as a servant there in 1861. It looks a bit like it might be a school, having boarders recorded & 2 teachers & domestic servants. I have tried googling. Does anyone have a directory where it is recorded? I can not find anymore about Jane, no marriage or death recorded. I would be grateful for any suggestions. Thank you Carol Adams

Hi Paula, I, too, had found Ann at home and then her marriage and life with Charles Papworth, via census records. I wonder if she was baptised in another parish? Her brother Benjamin Squires JAGGARD married an Ann Papworth so you would have to wonder about a family connection there between the families. Can you check for John possibly Morley JAGGARD's baptism please? I have a baptism for him in Dullingham on 16 March 1794. Mother Mary JAGGARD so I would have to suspect he was illegitimate. I found this ref on Ancestry: England and Wales Christening Records 1530-1906. No original to view sadly. Are Dullingham, Westley Waterless, Hardwick, Comberton all close together in Cambs? I must get to the library and get a map of the county back in the 1800's BTW Samuel's daughter Louisa Jane JAGGARD is my gt gt grandmother. She married John MORRISON in Brighton Sussex in 1864 and emigrated to NZ in 1865, thus beginning the family here. Many thanks once again Cheers Lynley ----- Original Message ----- From: "Paula Patterson" <psycholemon@gmail.com> To: <eng-cambridgeshire@rootsweb.com> Sent: Sunday, October 04, 2009 9:01 PM Subject: Re: [ENG-CAMS] Westley Waterless Parish records > Dawn Webb wrote: >> Otp = of this parish. Which only means they are there for at least three >> weeks before the marriage - ie whilst the banns are being called! It may >> also mean, of course, they were born and lived there all their lives, but >> you certainly can't assume that. >> >> I note too that two children were bapt in the same year - and one child >> missed out - maybe the family waited till they were a few months old - or >> years even - before the baptismal ceremony. Is there by any chance a >> death >> for the unbaptised child somewhere in there? Or perhaps she died very >> close >> to birth and it was a private baptism that was not noted in the register >> at >> the church. >> >> Dawn (Melbourne Australia) >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: eng-cambridgeshire-bounces@rootsweb.com >> [mailto:eng-cambridgeshire-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Lynley >> Chapman >> Sent: Sunday, 4 October 2009 6:18 PM >> To: eng-cambridgeshire@rootsweb.com >> Subject: Re: [ENG-CAMS] Westley Waterless Parish records >> >> > Since these were baptisms I think we can safely assume they were living > in the parish at the time of the baptism :) > > The 'unbaptised' Ann was living with her parents in Hardwick in the 1851 > census and had her place of birth as Westley. She married Charles > PAPWORTH on 3 June 1851 in Hardwick. > > Searching for her baptism I tried all the variations I could think of > for both Ann and JAGGARD over the period from mid 1820s to 1851 with no > luck :( > > Paula > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > ENG-CAMBRIDGESHIRE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' > without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Hi Paula, Wow, thanks so much for your prompt reply with the details of this family. Can you tell me what "otp" means please? Is there any way I can confirm Mary's maiden name please? I have Clements and Briggs as possibilities. I am very grateful to you. Kind regards Lynley in freezing cold Whitby, NZ ----- Original Message ----- From: "Paula Patterson" <psycholemon@gmail.com> To: <eng-cambridgeshire@rootsweb.com> Sent: Sunday, October 04, 2009 8:05 PM Subject: Re: [ENG-CAMS] Westley Waterless Parish records > Lynley Chapman wrote: >> Hello listers, >> >> I live in New Zealand and am currently researching my JAGGARD family. I >> have traced Samuel JAGGARD back to Westley Waterless in Cambridgeshire, >> born c 1815. >> >> I have found baptism records on the CFHS website which seem to link >> Samuel to John and Mary JAGGARD. Several possible siblings also are >> listed with John and Mary as parents in this spot. >> >> Is there SKS who could check the full baptism records for me and email me >> any extra information that appears on them please? >> >> The children I have are: >> Samuel born c 1815 >> William, born 1817 >> Maria, born 1820 >> Mary Elizabeth, born 1820 >> Agatha, born 1823 >> Benjamin, born 1825 >> Ann, born 1827 >> George, born 1828 >> James, born 1828 >> Henry J, born 1830. >> >> I appreciate any help that can be given. >> Many thanks for your time, >> Lynley Chapman >> Whitby, Porirua, New Zealand >> >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> ENG-CAMBRIDGESHIRE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' >> without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >> >> > At Westley Waterless: > > 11 June 1815 Samuel JAGGARD son of John JAGGARD otp coachman to Rev. Dr. > VARENNE and Mary JAGGARD > 8 October 1817 William JAGGARD son of John JAGGARD of Westley Rectory > House coachman and Mary JAGGARD [The Bishop's Transcripts add that he > was coachman to Revd Dr VARENNE] > 25 April 1820 Mary Elizabeth JAGGARD daughter of John JAGGARD otp > coachman to Rev. Dr. VARENNE and Mary JAGGARD > 1 October 1820 Maria JAGGARD daughter of John JAGGARD otp coachman to > Rev. Dr. VARENNE and Mary JAGGARD > 18 March 1823 Agatha JAGGARD daughter of John JAGGARD otp servant and > Mary JAGGARD [BT says 16 March] > 17 April 1825 Benjamin Squires JAGGARD son of John JAGGARD otp farmer > and Mary JAGGARD > 25 September 1828 George JAGGARD son of John JAGGARD otp farmer and Mary > JAGGARD [BT says 28 Sept] > 25 September 1828 James JAGGARD son of John JAGGARD otp farmer and Mary > JAGGARD [BT says 28 Sept] > 11 July 1830 Henry John JAGGARD born 16 June 1830 son of John JAGGARD > otp farmer and Mary JAGGARD > > I can't see a baptism for Ann born circa 1827 > > Paula > > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > ENG-CAMBRIDGESHIRE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' > without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Hello listers, I live in New Zealand and am currently researching my JAGGARD family. I have traced Samuel JAGGARD back to Westley Waterless in Cambridgeshire, born c 1815. I have found baptism records on the CFHS website which seem to link Samuel to John and Mary JAGGARD. Several possible siblings also are listed with John and Mary as parents in this spot. Is there SKS who could check the full baptism records for me and email me any extra information that appears on them please? The children I have are: Samuel born c 1815 William, born 1817 Maria, born 1820 Mary Elizabeth, born 1820 Agatha, born 1823 Benjamin, born 1825 Ann, born 1827 George, born 1828 James, born 1828 Henry J, born 1830. I appreciate any help that can be given. Many thanks for your time, Lynley Chapman Whitby, Porirua, New Zealand

Otp = of this parish. Which only means they are there for at least three weeks before the marriage - ie whilst the banns are being called! It may also mean, of course, they were born and lived there all their lives, but you certainly can't assume that. I note too that two children were bapt in the same year - and one child missed out - maybe the family waited till they were a few months old - or years even - before the baptismal ceremony. Is there by any chance a death for the unbaptised child somewhere in there? Or perhaps she died very close to birth and it was a private baptism that was not noted in the register at the church. Dawn (Melbourne Australia) -----Original Message----- From: eng-cambridgeshire-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:eng-cambridgeshire-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Lynley Chapman Sent: Sunday, 4 October 2009 6:18 PM To: eng-cambridgeshire@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [ENG-CAMS] Westley Waterless Parish records Hi Paula, Wow, thanks so much for your prompt reply with the details of this family. Can you tell me what "otp" means please? Is there any way I can confirm Mary's maiden name please? I have Clements and Briggs as possibilities. I am very grateful to you. Kind regards Lynley in freezing cold Whitby, NZ ----- Original Message ----- From: "Paula Patterson" <psycholemon@gmail.com> To: <eng-cambridgeshire@rootsweb.com> Sent: Sunday, October 04, 2009 8:05 PM Subject: Re: [ENG-CAMS] Westley Waterless Parish records > Lynley Chapman wrote: >> Hello listers, >> >> I live in New Zealand and am currently researching my JAGGARD family. I >> have traced Samuel JAGGARD back to Westley Waterless in Cambridgeshire, >> born c 1815. >> >> I have found baptism records on the CFHS website which seem to link >> Samuel to John and Mary JAGGARD. Several possible siblings also are >> listed with John and Mary as parents in this spot. >> >> Is there SKS who could check the full baptism records for me and email me >> any extra information that appears on them please? >> >> The children I have are: >> Samuel born c 1815 >> William, born 1817 >> Maria, born 1820 >> Mary Elizabeth, born 1820 >> Agatha, born 1823 >> Benjamin, born 1825 >> Ann, born 1827 >> George, born 1828 >> James, born 1828 >> Henry J, born 1830. >> >> I appreciate any help that can be given. >> Many thanks for your time, >> Lynley Chapman >> Whitby, Porirua, New Zealand >> >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> ENG-CAMBRIDGESHIRE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' >> without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >> >> > At Westley Waterless: > > 11 June 1815 Samuel JAGGARD son of John JAGGARD otp coachman to Rev. Dr. > VARENNE and Mary JAGGARD > 8 October 1817 William JAGGARD son of John JAGGARD of Westley Rectory > House coachman and Mary JAGGARD [The Bishop's Transcripts add that he > was coachman to Revd Dr VARENNE] > 25 April 1820 Mary Elizabeth JAGGARD daughter of John JAGGARD otp > coachman to Rev. Dr. VARENNE and Mary JAGGARD > 1 October 1820 Maria JAGGARD daughter of John JAGGARD otp coachman to > Rev. Dr. VARENNE and Mary JAGGARD > 18 March 1823 Agatha JAGGARD daughter of John JAGGARD otp servant and > Mary JAGGARD [BT says 16 March] > 17 April 1825 Benjamin Squires JAGGARD son of John JAGGARD otp farmer > and Mary JAGGARD > 25 September 1828 George JAGGARD son of John JAGGARD otp farmer and Mary > JAGGARD [BT says 28 Sept] > 25 September 1828 James JAGGARD son of John JAGGARD otp farmer and Mary > JAGGARD [BT says 28 Sept] > 11 July 1830 Henry John JAGGARD born 16 June 1830 son of John JAGGARD > otp farmer and Mary JAGGARD > > I can't see a baptism for Ann born circa 1827 > > Paula > > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > ENG-CAMBRIDGESHIRE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' > without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to ENG-CAMBRIDGESHIRE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message __________ NOD32 4478 (20091003) Information __________ This message was checked by NOD32 antivirus system. http://www.eset.com

John Morley Jaggard bap 16 March 1794 baseborn of Mary Jaggard - you could research for his father on the premise that Morley was his fathers surname as this was common in 'baseborns' to use the fathers surname (see also 14 Oct 1798 Betsy Ray Jaggrad natural daughter of Elizabeth Jaggard) and Morley does not appear before in any Jaggard namings in Dullingham. V Atkinson ----- Original Message ----- From: "Lynley Chapman" <qdeckchapman@clear.net.nz> To: <eng-cambridgeshire@rootsweb.com> Sent: Sunday, October 04, 2009 9:10 AM Subject: Re: [ENG-CAMS] Westley Waterless Parish records > Hi Paula, > > I, too, had found Ann at home and then her marriage and life with Charles > Papworth, via census records. I wonder if she was baptised in another > parish? > Her brother Benjamin Squires JAGGARD married an Ann Papworth so you would > have to wonder about a family connection there between the families. > > Can you check for John possibly Morley JAGGARD's baptism please? I have a > baptism for him in Dullingham on 16 March 1794. Mother Mary JAGGARD so I > would have to suspect he was illegitimate. I found this ref on Ancestry: > England and Wales Christening Records 1530-1906. No original to view > sadly. > > Are Dullingham, Westley Waterless, Hardwick, Comberton all close together > in > Cambs? I must get to the library and get a map of the county back in the > 1800's > > BTW Samuel's daughter Louisa Jane JAGGARD is my gt gt grandmother. She > married John MORRISON in Brighton Sussex in 1864 and emigrated to NZ in > 1865, thus beginning the family here. > > Many thanks once again > Cheers > Lynley > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Paula Patterson" <psycholemon@gmail.com> > To: <eng-cambridgeshire@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Sunday, October 04, 2009 9:01 PM > Subject: Re: [ENG-CAMS] Westley Waterless Parish records > > >> Dawn Webb wrote: >>> Otp = of this parish. Which only means they are there for at least >>> three >>> weeks before the marriage - ie whilst the banns are being called! It may >>> also mean, of course, they were born and lived there all their lives, >>> but >>> you certainly can't assume that. >>> >>> I note too that two children were bapt in the same year - and one child >>> missed out - maybe the family waited till they were a few months old - >>> or >>> years even - before the baptismal ceremony. Is there by any chance a >>> death >>> for the unbaptised child somewhere in there? Or perhaps she died very >>> close >>> to birth and it was a private baptism that was not noted in the register >>> at >>> the church. >>> >>> Dawn (Melbourne Australia) >>> >>> -----Original Message----- >>> From: eng-cambridgeshire-bounces@rootsweb.com >>> [mailto:eng-cambridgeshire-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Lynley >>> Chapman >>> Sent: Sunday, 4 October 2009 6:18 PM >>> To: eng-cambridgeshire@rootsweb.com >>> Subject: Re: [ENG-CAMS] Westley Waterless Parish records >>> >>> >> Since these were baptisms I think we can safely assume they were living >> in the parish at the time of the baptism :) >> >> The 'unbaptised' Ann was living with her parents in Hardwick in the 1851 >> census and had her place of birth as Westley. She married Charles >> PAPWORTH on 3 June 1851 in Hardwick. >> >> Searching for her baptism I tried all the variations I could think of >> for both Ann and JAGGARD over the period from mid 1820s to 1851 with no >> luck :( >> >> Paula >> >> >> >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> ENG-CAMBRIDGESHIRE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' >> without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > ENG-CAMBRIDGESHIRE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' > without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Dawn Webb wrote: > Otp = of this parish. Which only means they are there for at least three > weeks before the marriage - ie whilst the banns are being called! It may > also mean, of course, they were born and lived there all their lives, but > you certainly can't assume that. > > I note too that two children were bapt in the same year - and one child > missed out - maybe the family waited till they were a few months old - or > years even - before the baptismal ceremony. Is there by any chance a death > for the unbaptised child somewhere in there? Or perhaps she died very close > to birth and it was a private baptism that was not noted in the register at > the church. > > Dawn (Melbourne Australia) > > -----Original Message----- > From: eng-cambridgeshire-bounces@rootsweb.com > [mailto:eng-cambridgeshire-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Lynley Chapman > Sent: Sunday, 4 October 2009 6:18 PM > To: eng-cambridgeshire@rootsweb.com > Subject: Re: [ENG-CAMS] Westley Waterless Parish records > > Since these were baptisms I think we can safely assume they were living in the parish at the time of the baptism :) The 'unbaptised' Ann was living with her parents in Hardwick in the 1851 census and had her place of birth as Westley. She married Charles PAPWORTH on 3 June 1851 in Hardwick. Searching for her baptism I tried all the variations I could think of for both Ann and JAGGARD over the period from mid 1820s to 1851 with no luck :( Paula

Lynley Chapman wrote: > Hello listers, > > I live in New Zealand and am currently researching my JAGGARD family. I have traced Samuel JAGGARD back to Westley Waterless in Cambridgeshire, born c 1815. > > I have found baptism records on the CFHS website which seem to link Samuel to John and Mary JAGGARD. Several possible siblings also are listed with John and Mary as parents in this spot. > > Is there SKS who could check the full baptism records for me and email me any extra information that appears on them please? > > The children I have are: > Samuel born c 1815 > William, born 1817 > Maria, born 1820 > Mary Elizabeth, born 1820 > Agatha, born 1823 > Benjamin, born 1825 > Ann, born 1827 > George, born 1828 > James, born 1828 > Henry J, born 1830. > > I appreciate any help that can be given. > Many thanks for your time, > Lynley Chapman > Whitby, Porirua, New Zealand > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to ENG-CAMBRIDGESHIRE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > At Westley Waterless: 11 June 1815 Samuel JAGGARD son of John JAGGARD otp coachman to Rev. Dr. VARENNE and Mary JAGGARD 8 October 1817 William JAGGARD son of John JAGGARD of Westley Rectory House coachman and Mary JAGGARD [The Bishop's Transcripts add that he was coachman to Revd Dr VARENNE] 25 April 1820 Mary Elizabeth JAGGARD daughter of John JAGGARD otp coachman to Rev. Dr. VARENNE and Mary JAGGARD 1 October 1820 Maria JAGGARD daughter of John JAGGARD otp coachman to Rev. Dr. VARENNE and Mary JAGGARD 18 March 1823 Agatha JAGGARD daughter of John JAGGARD otp servant and Mary JAGGARD [BT says 16 March] 17 April 1825 Benjamin Squires JAGGARD son of John JAGGARD otp farmer and Mary JAGGARD 25 September 1828 George JAGGARD son of John JAGGARD otp farmer and Mary JAGGARD [BT says 28 Sept] 25 September 1828 James JAGGARD son of John JAGGARD otp farmer and Mary JAGGARD [BT says 28 Sept] 11 July 1830 Henry John JAGGARD born 16 June 1830 son of John JAGGARD otp farmer and Mary JAGGARD I can't see a baptism for Ann born circa 1827 Paula

Hello list, I have copies of baptisms up to 1812 for the area of Whitchurh.? I would be willing to check if anyone has a need. Susan Virginia