Thank you Alan for the message about Geocities. Pat ----- Original Message ----- From: AlanMCraven<mailto:alanmcraven@btinternet.com> To: eng-cambridgeshire@rootsweb.com<mailto:eng-cambridgeshire@rootsweb.com> Sent: Saturday, October 24, 2009 3:15 AM Subject: Re: [ENG-CAMS] Powells in Cambridgeshire and Powelltor. Hi With Geocities due to close down on Monday [26 October ] perhaps the site has migrated elsewhere? Best Wishes Alan Craven ----- Original Message ----- From: "PATRICIA SPRINGER" <SPRINGERPC@msn.com<mailto:SPRINGERPC@msn.com>> To: <eng-cambridgeshire@rootsweb.com<mailto:eng-cambridgeshire@rootsweb.com>> Sent: Saturday, October 24, 2009 5:53 AM Subject: Re: [ENG-CAMS] Powells in Cambridgeshire and Powelltor. > Hello Ian, > > Just now got some time to look over the site you sent, but looks like the > site cannot bring up the page. Do these pages go of the internet????? Do > not know anything about this. Thank you though for helping and sorry I > was not able to get to the information. > > Pat in Southern Indiana, USA > ----- Original Message ----- > From: PATRICIA SPRINGER<mailto:SPRINGERPC@msn.com<mailto:SPRINGERPC@msn.com>> > To: > eng-cambridgeshire@rootsweb.com<mailto:eng-cambridgeshire@rootsweb.com<mailto:eng-cambridgeshire@rootsweb.com%3Cmailto:eng-cambridgeshire@rootsweb.com>> > Sent: Tuesday, September 08, 2009 8:00 PM > Subject: Re: [ENG-CAMS] Powells in Cambridgeshire and Powelltor. > > > Thank you Ian, > > Thank you so much for your info and website, and will check it tomorrow > when I have more time. We are in a DNA "T" Haplogroup, so that makes > our line of Powells very rare, and most likely related to "T" Groups that > match all the way to 67 markers. Our DNA group can be found by putting > Powell DNA Project into your Search, and clicking on to it. Look for the > T Haplogroup which is under the first Submitter. There are ll of us. You > can read each family background back to the oldest ancestor by clicking on > the blue underlined kit numbers. > > We just cannot seem to find the link where or who really was the ancestor > that came to the USA, we would also like to know if they came from > Ireland, Wales, or England. Know that is a lot of territory to scan, but > we are so lost at looking for these people. Ran into one person in the > family, and they said Upson Powell told of an Irish Heritage, so guess we > are a dukes mixture. I am thanking everyone so much for any help given, > and will try my best to use the info. Anyone has permission to use my > email address off line. > > Regards, > Pat in Southern Indiana USA > ----- Original Message ----- > From: IAN > GRAHAM<mailto:idgraham@btinternet.com<mailto:idgraham@btinternet.com<mailto:idgraham@btinternet.com%3Cmailto:idgraham@btinternet.com>>> > To: > ENG-CAMBRIDGESHIRE@rootsweb.com<mailto:ENG-CAMBRIDGESHIRE@rootsweb.com<mailto:ENG-CAMBRIDGESHIRE@rootsweb.com%3Cmailto:ENG-CAMBRIDGESHIRE@rootsweb.com<mailto:ENG-CAMBRIDGESHIRE@rootsweb.com%3Cmailto:ENG-CAMBRIDGESHIRE@rootsweb.com%3Cmailto:ENG-CAMBRIDGESHIRE@rootsweb.com%3Cmailto:ENG-CAMBRIDGESHIRE@rootsweb.com>>> > Sent: Monday, September 07, 2009 5:56 AM > Subject: Re: [ENG-CAMS] Powells in Cambridgeshire and Powelltor. > > > I know from my own family's history that very strange things can happen > in the oral transmission of (former home) placenames and origin myths, > particularly once the the transitional generation are dead and an ocean > lies between the ongoing line and the old country. > > Given you have some DNA results, you might like to look at > > http://www.geocities.com/thurlowons/eagdna/frame_set.html<http://www.geocities.com/thurlowons/eagdna/frame_set.html<http://www.geocities.com/thurlowons/eagdna/frame_set.html%3Chttp://www.geocities.com/thurlowons/eagdna/frame_set.html<http://www.geocities.com/thurlowons/eagdna/frame_set.html%3Chttp://www.geocities.com/thurlowons/eagdna/frame_set.html%3Chttp://www.geocities.com/thurlowons/eagdna/frame_set.html%3Chttp://www.geocities.com/thurlowons/eagdna/frame_set.html>>> > > (eagdna = East Anglia Geographic DNA project) > > which maintains a database and runs a 'list' like this, with some > interested/informed and helpful regulars. > > Given it's Geocities, it might be as well to do it soon...... > > Ian Graham > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > ENG-CAMBRIDGESHIRE-request@rootsweb.com<mailto:ENG-CAMBRIDGESHIRE-request@rootsweb.com> with the word 'unsubscribe' > without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

In a message dated 25/10/2009 18:47:21 GMT Standard Time, sheppersonj@btinternet.com writes: One nurse was a Miss Maud Beales. There was a family by the name of Beales who lived at Ickleton, at a house called 'Icknield,' to which my grandfather, Walter Clifton Woollard (1875 - 1942), retired to in 1937. Any connection, John? Geoffrey Woollard. _http://petitions.number10.gov.uk/SaveOurFens/_ (http://petitions.number10.gov.uk/SaveOurFens/)

> Hi, I am new to the list trying to find the maiden name of a Sophia A > Brown, she states that she was born in Chesterford in 1846, does > anyone have the PR,s for this village, cannot find her marriage on > FreeBDM, so any help appreciated > > Regards Carol >

Dear Pat Yes, the Geocities facilities were finally taken down a week or ten days ago, as long threatened - hence my 'warning' in the original message. I expect the EAGDNA group will locate, and I'm a subscriber, so if and when it resurfaces, I will let you know where it is. BW Ian G. ----- Original Message ----- From: <eng-cambridgeshire-request@rootsweb.com> To: <eng-cambridgeshire@rootsweb.com> Sent: Saturday, October 24, 2009 8:00 AM Subject: ENG-CAMBRIDGESHIRE Digest, Vol 4, Issue 124 > > > Today's Topics: > > 1. Re: Powells in Cambridgeshire and Powelltor. (PATRICIA SPRINGER) > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > Message: 1 > Date: Sat, 24 Oct 2009 00:53:27 -0400 > From: "PATRICIA SPRINGER" <SPRINGERPC@msn.com> > Subject: Re: [ENG-CAMS] Powells in Cambridgeshire and Powelltor. > To: <eng-cambridgeshire@rootsweb.com> > Message-ID: <BAY110-DS50D3DEC750F1220D759E6D0BC0@phx.gbl> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" > > Hello Ian, > > Just now got some time to look over the site you sent, but looks like the > site cannot bring up the page. Do these pages go of the internet????? Do > not know anything about this. Thank you though for helping and sorry I > was not able to get to the information. > > Pat in Southern Indiana, USA > ----- Original Message ----- > From: PATRICIA SPRINGER<mailto:SPRINGERPC@msn.com> > To: > eng-cambridgeshire@rootsweb.com<mailto:eng-cambridgeshire@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Tuesday, September 08, 2009 8:00 PM > Subject: Re: [ENG-CAMS] Powells in Cambridgeshire and Powelltor. > > > Thank you Ian, > > Thank you so much for your info and website, and will check it tomorrow > when I have more time. We are in a DNA "T" Haplogroup, so that makes > our line of Powells very rare, and most likely related to "T" Groups that > match all the way to 67 markers. Our DNA group can be found by putting > Powell DNA Project into your Search, and clicking on to it. Look for the > T Haplogroup which is under the first Submitter. There are ll of us. You > can read each family background back to the oldest ancestor by clicking on > the blue underlined kit numbers. > > We just cannot seem to find the link where or who really was the ancestor > that came to the USA, we would also like to know if they came from > Ireland, Wales, or England. Know that is a lot of territory to scan, but > we are so lost at looking for these people. Ran into one person in the > family, and they said Upson Powell told of an Irish Heritage, so guess we > are a dukes mixture. I am thanking everyone so much for any help given, > and will try my best to use the info. Anyone has permission to use my > email address off line. > > Regards, > Pat in Southern Indiana USA > ----- Original Message ----- > From: IAN > GRAHAM<mailto:idgraham@btinternet.com<mailto:idgraham@btinternet.com>> > To: > ENG-CAMBRIDGESHIRE@rootsweb.com<mailto:ENG-CAMBRIDGESHIRE@rootsweb.com<mailto:ENG-CAMBRIDGESHIRE@rootsweb.com%3Cmailto:ENG-CAMBRIDGESHIRE@rootsweb.com>> > Sent: Monday, September 07, 2009 5:56 AM > Subject: Re: [ENG-CAMS] Powells in Cambridgeshire and Powelltor. > > > I know from my own family's history that very strange things can happen > in the oral transmission of (former home) placenames and origin myths, > particularly once the the transitional generation are dead and an ocean > lies between the ongoing line and the old country. > > Given you have some DNA results, you might like to look at > > http://www.geocities.com/thurlowons/eagdna/frame_set.html<http://www.geocities.com/thurlowons/eagdna/frame_set.html<http://www.geocities.com/thurlowons/eagdna/frame_set.html%3Chttp://www.geocities.com/thurlowons/eagdna/frame_set.html>> > > (eagdna = East Anglia Geographic DNA project) > > which maintains a database and runs a 'list' like this, with some > interested/informed and helpful regulars. > > Given it's Geocities, it might be as well to do it soon...... > > Ian Graham > > > > ------------------------------ > > To contact the ENG-CAMBRIDGESHIRE list administrator, send an email to > ENG-CAMBRIDGESHIRE-admin@rootsweb.com. > > To post a message to the ENG-CAMBRIDGESHIRE mailing list, send an email to > ENG-CAMBRIDGESHIRE@rootsweb.com. > > __________________________________________________________ > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > ENG-CAMBRIDGESHIRE-request@rootsweb.com > with the word "unsubscribe" without the quotes in the subject and the body > of the > email with no additional text. > > > End of ENG-CAMBRIDGESHIRE Digest, Vol 4, Issue 124 > ************************************************** -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 8.5.423 / Virus Database: 270.14.28/2454 - Release Date: 10/23/09 14:09:00

Hi With Geocities due to close down on Monday [26 October ] perhaps the site has migrated elsewhere? Best Wishes Alan Craven ----- Original Message ----- From: "PATRICIA SPRINGER" <SPRINGERPC@msn.com> To: <eng-cambridgeshire@rootsweb.com> Sent: Saturday, October 24, 2009 5:53 AM Subject: Re: [ENG-CAMS] Powells in Cambridgeshire and Powelltor. > Hello Ian, > > Just now got some time to look over the site you sent, but looks like the > site cannot bring up the page. Do these pages go of the internet????? Do > not know anything about this. Thank you though for helping and sorry I > was not able to get to the information. > > Pat in Southern Indiana, USA > ----- Original Message ----- > From: PATRICIA SPRINGER<mailto:SPRINGERPC@msn.com> > To: > eng-cambridgeshire@rootsweb.com<mailto:eng-cambridgeshire@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Tuesday, September 08, 2009 8:00 PM > Subject: Re: [ENG-CAMS] Powells in Cambridgeshire and Powelltor. > > > Thank you Ian, > > Thank you so much for your info and website, and will check it tomorrow > when I have more time. We are in a DNA "T" Haplogroup, so that makes > our line of Powells very rare, and most likely related to "T" Groups that > match all the way to 67 markers. Our DNA group can be found by putting > Powell DNA Project into your Search, and clicking on to it. Look for the > T Haplogroup which is under the first Submitter. There are ll of us. You > can read each family background back to the oldest ancestor by clicking on > the blue underlined kit numbers. > > We just cannot seem to find the link where or who really was the ancestor > that came to the USA, we would also like to know if they came from > Ireland, Wales, or England. Know that is a lot of territory to scan, but > we are so lost at looking for these people. Ran into one person in the > family, and they said Upson Powell told of an Irish Heritage, so guess we > are a dukes mixture. I am thanking everyone so much for any help given, > and will try my best to use the info. Anyone has permission to use my > email address off line. > > Regards, > Pat in Southern Indiana USA > ----- Original Message ----- > From: IAN > GRAHAM<mailto:idgraham@btinternet.com<mailto:idgraham@btinternet.com>> > To: > ENG-CAMBRIDGESHIRE@rootsweb.com<mailto:ENG-CAMBRIDGESHIRE@rootsweb.com<mailto:ENG-CAMBRIDGESHIRE@rootsweb.com%3Cmailto:ENG-CAMBRIDGESHIRE@rootsweb.com>> > Sent: Monday, September 07, 2009 5:56 AM > Subject: Re: [ENG-CAMS] Powells in Cambridgeshire and Powelltor. > > > I know from my own family's history that very strange things can happen > in the oral transmission of (former home) placenames and origin myths, > particularly once the the transitional generation are dead and an ocean > lies between the ongoing line and the old country. > > Given you have some DNA results, you might like to look at > > http://www.geocities.com/thurlowons/eagdna/frame_set.html<http://www.geocities.com/thurlowons/eagdna/frame_set.html<http://www.geocities.com/thurlowons/eagdna/frame_set.html%3Chttp://www.geocities.com/thurlowons/eagdna/frame_set.html>> > > (eagdna = East Anglia Geographic DNA project) > > which maintains a database and runs a 'list' like this, with some > interested/informed and helpful regulars. > > Given it's Geocities, it might be as well to do it soon...... > > Ian Graham > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > ENG-CAMBRIDGESHIRE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' > without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Hello Ian, Just now got some time to look over the site you sent, but looks like the site cannot bring up the page. Do these pages go of the internet????? Do not know anything about this. Thank you though for helping and sorry I was not able to get to the information. Pat in Southern Indiana, USA ----- Original Message ----- From: PATRICIA SPRINGER<mailto:SPRINGERPC@msn.com> To: eng-cambridgeshire@rootsweb.com<mailto:eng-cambridgeshire@rootsweb.com> Sent: Tuesday, September 08, 2009 8:00 PM Subject: Re: [ENG-CAMS] Powells in Cambridgeshire and Powelltor. Thank you Ian, Thank you so much for your info and website, and will check it tomorrow when I have more time. We are in a DNA "T" Haplogroup, so that makes our line of Powells very rare, and most likely related to "T" Groups that match all the way to 67 markers. Our DNA group can be found by putting Powell DNA Project into your Search, and clicking on to it. Look for the T Haplogroup which is under the first Submitter. There are ll of us. You can read each family background back to the oldest ancestor by clicking on the blue underlined kit numbers. We just cannot seem to find the link where or who really was the ancestor that came to the USA, we would also like to know if they came from Ireland, Wales, or England. Know that is a lot of territory to scan, but we are so lost at looking for these people. Ran into one person in the family, and they said Upson Powell told of an Irish Heritage, so guess we are a dukes mixture. I am thanking everyone so much for any help given, and will try my best to use the info. Anyone has permission to use my email address off line. Regards, Pat in Southern Indiana USA ----- Original Message ----- From: IAN GRAHAM<mailto:idgraham@btinternet.com<mailto:idgraham@btinternet.com>> To: ENG-CAMBRIDGESHIRE@rootsweb.com<mailto:ENG-CAMBRIDGESHIRE@rootsweb.com<mailto:ENG-CAMBRIDGESHIRE@rootsweb.com%3Cmailto:ENG-CAMBRIDGESHIRE@rootsweb.com>> Sent: Monday, September 07, 2009 5:56 AM Subject: Re: [ENG-CAMS] Powells in Cambridgeshire and Powelltor. I know from my own family's history that very strange things can happen in the oral transmission of (former home) placenames and origin myths, particularly once the the transitional generation are dead and an ocean lies between the ongoing line and the old country. Given you have some DNA results, you might like to look at http://www.geocities.com/thurlowons/eagdna/frame_set.html<http://www.geocities.com/thurlowons/eagdna/frame_set.html<http://www.geocities.com/thurlowons/eagdna/frame_set.html%3Chttp://www.geocities.com/thurlowons/eagdna/frame_set.html>> (eagdna = East Anglia Geographic DNA project) which maintains a database and runs a 'list' like this, with some interested/informed and helpful regulars. Given it's Geocities, it might be as well to do it soon...... Ian Graham

Hi can any one out there help with the NOBLE clan from Balsham. I have a John Noble marryinga a Joan Brown 18 sep 1665 in Balsham,Cambridgeshire,but i have no other dates of info on him,can anyone help. thanks and regards Josie

I have nothing to add to the recent Ashwell/Litlington discussion, but it has prompted me to ask general advice. My wife's mother's family are all from Bassingbourn/Litlington/Whaddon/Croydon/etc and while I have managed to map much of it, the information to which I have direct access start in 1800 or 1835. How does one go earlier in this non-mobile area of Cambridgeshire? ==John ffitch

I too could not find a Thomas with George or James 1841 Yorkshire census but I did find an 8 year old Thomas Mitchell in 1841 with Ann Shore 55ys and Martha Shore 15yr. Then in 1851 19yr Thomas Mitchell with father George and Sarah Shaw 72yr mother in law. Wondering if this is a possible match. Shore/Shaw ?

I have been searching on ancestry also, and was starting to get really stubborn (as I could not find him) until your email came through....... I am still playing, but I cannot find him either. Pam from Adelaide Australia > It would have been Thomas himself who gave his father's name as George > when > he married. The name James on Thomas' death certificate would have been > given by someone else. Of the two sources I would place much greater > reliance on what Thomas had to say. > > Oddly I can't find Thomas in either of the 1841 or 1851 censuses, which > would be the easiest place to settle who his father was. There's no > baptism > on the IGI which isn't surprising as very few Northants parish records > have > been extracted onto the IGI, making Northants one of the more difficult > counties to research online. > > Peterborough was in Northants, so if no-one can help on this board I would > consider reposting on the Northamptonshire board, where folks have access > to > transcripts and the Northants Marriage Index > > David > > David > > > > On Sat, Oct 17, 2009 at 7:14 AM, Jenny T <jennygirl@unwired.com.au> wrote: > >> Hello List >> >> I am new to this list and I hope that someone may be able to help me. >> >> I am researching Thomas Mark MITCHELL >> born: 1833, Peterborough, UK >> married: 1855 to Sarah HOGG Parish Church Whitby, UK. >> emigrated: to New Zealand 1874 with wife and children >> died: 20 July 1888 Sydney Australia >> >> My brickwall is Thomas' father's name that being either James or George >> MITCHELL. Recorded on Thomas' marriage certificate his father is recorded >> as >> George MITCHELL however on Thomas's death certificate his father is >> recorded >> as James MITCHELL >> >> Can anyone suggest how I can work out who was Thomas MITCHELL's father. >> >> Many thanks >> Jenny in Australia >> >> Researching, Mitchell, Johnson >> >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> ENG-CAMBRIDGESHIRE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' >> without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >> > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > ENG-CAMBRIDGESHIRE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' > without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Hello List I am new to this list and I hope that someone may be able to help me. I am researching Thomas Mark MITCHELL born: 1833, Peterborough, UK married: 1855 to Sarah HOGG Parish Church Whitby, UK. emigrated: to New Zealand 1874 with wife and children died: 20 July 1888 Sydney Australia My brickwall is Thomas' father's name that being either James or George MITCHELL. Recorded on Thomas' marriage certificate his father is recorded as George MITCHELL however on Thomas's death certificate his father is recorded as James MITCHELL Can anyone suggest how I can work out who was Thomas MITCHELL's father. Many thanks Jenny in Australia Researching, Mitchell, Johnson

I can only find him in 1861 living at Hartlepool as a mariner with a birthplace given as Northants Peterhead. The birthplaces of the children indicate that they moved about a bit. David On Sat, Oct 17, 2009 at 9:51 AM, Pam Hillier < pamhillier24@virginbroadband.com.au> wrote: > I have been searching on ancestry also, and was starting to get really > stubborn (as I could not find him) until your email came through....... > I am still playing, but I cannot find him either. > Pam from Adelaide Australia > > > > It would have been Thomas himself who gave his father's name as George > > when > > he married. The name James on Thomas' death certificate would have been > > given by someone else. Of the two sources I would place much greater > > reliance on what Thomas had to say. > > > > Oddly I can't find Thomas in either of the 1841 or 1851 censuses, which > > would be the easiest place to settle who his father was. There's no > > baptism > > on the IGI which isn't surprising as very few Northants parish records > > have > > been extracted onto the IGI, making Northants one of the more difficult > > counties to research online. > > > > Peterborough was in Northants, so if no-one can help on this board I > would > > consider reposting on the Northamptonshire board, where folks have access > > to > > transcripts and the Northants Marriage Index > > > > David > > > > David > > > > > > > > On Sat, Oct 17, 2009 at 7:14 AM, Jenny T <jennygirl@unwired.com.au> > wrote: > > > >> Hello List > >> > >> I am new to this list and I hope that someone may be able to help me. > >> > >> I am researching Thomas Mark MITCHELL > >> born: 1833, Peterborough, UK > >> married: 1855 to Sarah HOGG Parish Church Whitby, UK. > >> emigrated: to New Zealand 1874 with wife and children > >> died: 20 July 1888 Sydney Australia > >> > >> My brickwall is Thomas' father's name that being either James or George > >> MITCHELL. Recorded on Thomas' marriage certificate his father is > recorded > >> as > >> George MITCHELL however on Thomas's death certificate his father is > >> recorded > >> as James MITCHELL > >> > >> Can anyone suggest how I can work out who was Thomas MITCHELL's father. > >> > >> Many thanks > >> Jenny in Australia > >> > >> Researching, Mitchell, Johnson > >> > >> ------------------------------- > >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > >> ENG-CAMBRIDGESHIRE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' > >> without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > >> > > > > ------------------------------- > > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > > ENG-CAMBRIDGESHIRE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' > > without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > ENG-CAMBRIDGESHIRE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' > without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

It would have been Thomas himself who gave his father's name as George when he married. The name James on Thomas' death certificate would have been given by someone else. Of the two sources I would place much greater reliance on what Thomas had to say. Oddly I can't find Thomas in either of the 1841 or 1851 censuses, which would be the easiest place to settle who his father was. There's no baptism on the IGI which isn't surprising as very few Northants parish records have been extracted onto the IGI, making Northants one of the more difficult counties to research online. Peterborough was in Northants, so if no-one can help on this board I would consider reposting on the Northamptonshire board, where folks have access to transcripts and the Northants Marriage Index David David On Sat, Oct 17, 2009 at 7:14 AM, Jenny T <jennygirl@unwired.com.au> wrote: > Hello List > > I am new to this list and I hope that someone may be able to help me. > > I am researching Thomas Mark MITCHELL > born: 1833, Peterborough, UK > married: 1855 to Sarah HOGG Parish Church Whitby, UK. > emigrated: to New Zealand 1874 with wife and children > died: 20 July 1888 Sydney Australia > > My brickwall is Thomas' father's name that being either James or George > MITCHELL. Recorded on Thomas' marriage certificate his father is recorded as > George MITCHELL however on Thomas's death certificate his father is recorded > as James MITCHELL > > Can anyone suggest how I can work out who was Thomas MITCHELL's father. > > Many thanks > Jenny in Australia > > Researching, Mitchell, Johnson > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > ENG-CAMBRIDGESHIRE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' > without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

My main reservation with this Thomas is his birthplace - Yorks in 1841 and Wakefield Yorks in 1851, with no indication that the family in 1851 had ever set foot outside Wakefield, whereas in 1861 in Hartlepool he gave his birthplace as Northants Peterhead. As I can only find one Peterhead, and that's in Scotland, I assume it's an enumeration error for Peterborough, which was in Northamptonshire at that time. The search continues! David --- En date de : Sam 17.10.09, opiekan <opiekan@iprimus.com.au> a écrit : > De: opiekan <opiekan@iprimus.com.au> > Objet: Re: [ENG-CAMS] Thomas Mark Mitchell > À: eng-cambridgeshire@rootsweb.com > Date: Samedi 17 Octobre 2009, 10h17 > I too could not find a Thomas with > George or James 1841  Yorkshire census > but I did find an 8 year old Thomas Mitchell in 1841 with > Ann Shore 55ys and > Martha Shore 15yr. > Then in 1851 19yr Thomas Mitchell with father George and > Sarah Shaw 72yr > mother in law.  Wondering if this is a possible > match.  Shore/Shaw ? > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to ENG-CAMBRIDGESHIRE-request@rootsweb.com > with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the > subject and the body of the message >

Hi Janet, thank you so very much for your prompt reply but especially for the time and effort you took in doing this for me. It seems that you have given me a lot to think about and update on my tree. Now that I know that there were some Wills, I most certainly will be getting them. What a pot of gold you have found for me. Thanks once again. Kind regards Sharon Kirby -------------------------------------------------- From: "Janet Booth" <janbooth@dsl.pipex.com> Sent: Friday, October 16, 2009 8:30 PM To: <eng-cambridgeshire@rootsweb.com> Subject: [ENG-CAMS] ENG-CAMS] Re : Surnames: Plomer/Plummer etc,Parcell/Passell > Hello Sharon, > >>From Ashwell PR Transcripts: > > 25 April 1703 Robert PASSELL & Ann PLOMER married > > According to the Cambridgeshire FHS Baptismal Index, there are no PLOMER > baptisms from 1603-1702 although there are a batch in Leverington in the > mid to late 1500s and a batch at Cambridge Holy Trinity in the late 1550s, > a couple at Ickleton and a couple at Kennet also mid to late 1500s - > perhaps worth bearing in mind if you get back earlier. Likewise no > baptism shown for Robert in Cambridgeshire under any of the various > spellings of his surname. However, there are the following baptisms at > Litlington to Robert and Ann according to the Litlington PR Transcripts: > > 25 December 1706 Robert PARCELL > 22 April 1708 Mary PARCELL > 28 September 1709 John PARCELL > 1 October 1710 Elizabeth PARCELL > 6 October 1713 Plummer PARCELL > > Burials at Litlington: > > 17 August 1750 Eliz PASSELL, wife of Rob > 6 May 1788 Robert PASSEL (Bishops Transcripts > husbandman) > > No marriages of any of the children at Litlington that I can see on the > Transcripts. > > Going back to Ashwell PR Transcripts: > > 26 March 1704 Anne PASSELL daughter Robert & Anne baptised > 5 November 1705 Sarah PASSELL daughter Robert & Anne baptised > buried 22 January 1705/6 > 23 September 1709 John PASSELL son Robert, labourer, buried > 6 October 1720 Robert PASSEL of Litlington Cambs buried > 13 July 1736 Anne PASSELL, widow > > Unfortunately, not all of the records are complete prior to 1686 (there is > a gap between Mar 1676 & April 1685 & another one between 1640 & 1660 > which are just the timescales you are interested in) on the transcripts > but here are the ones which could be relevant to you: > > 19 April 1664 Richard PLOMER son William & Alice baptised > 24 September 1664 George PLOMER son John & Sarah baptised > 2 July 1666 Elizabeth PASSELL daughter William & Joane > baptised > 17 September 1666 William PASSELL, paterfamilias buried > 6 September 1667 Sarah PLOMER daughter John & Sarah buried > 15 December 1667 Susan PASSELL wife John buried > November 1670 Willyam PLOMER son Samuel & Ann baptised > 13 November 1670 Ann wife Samuel PLOMER buried > 16 May 1671 Willyam PASSILL son John & Miriam baptised > 11 October 1671 John PLOMER & Ann GODFERY married > > There are others prior to 1664 but unless we can determine which of the > above are the appropriate parents for your Robert & Anne, it will just > complicate things totally. If Ann PLOMER's father is supposed to be a > John (how do you know this by the way??), there would appear to be 2 > candidates - the John who married Ann GODFERY (presumably GODFREY which is > what HALS Online MI shows it as) and the John PLOMER married to a Sarah. > Of course, the John who married Ann could be a son of the John & Sarah but > the relevant records are missing. However, you may just be lucky in that > on the National Archives Documents Online site () are the following wills > which could just help you sort out who were the parents of Robert & Anne > (downloadable online at the cost of £3.50 each): > > 13 April 1728 Mary GODFREY, widow, of Ashwell (perhaps Ann's > grandmother??) > 9 March 1717 Joan PASSELL, widow, of Ashwell (could perhaps be > Robert's grandmother??) > 2 December 1715 John GODFREY, gentleman, Ashwell (perhaps Ann's > grandfather??) > 12 November 1666 William PLOMER, yeoman, Ashwell > 5 February 1666 William PLOMER, yeoman, Ashwell > 23 November 1651 Edward PLOMER, tanner, Ashwell > > I think Joan PASSELL's will is definitely worth speculating on and maybe > one of the GODFREY wills too. If they are connected to your families, > they could give you valuable information especially in view of the missing > parish register records. > >>From the HALS Online Marriage Index >>(www.hertsdirect.org/libsleisure/heritage1/HALS/ - click on Hertfordshire >>Names Online and then use the search boxes): > > 25 July 1741 Plummer PASSELL of Biggleswade, Beds & Mary LAYTON > of Ashwell at Letchworth > > Lots of other PASSEL(L) & PARCEL(L) & PLOMER records so could be worth a > look for you. > > HTH a little > > Janet > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > ENG-CAMBRIDGESHIRE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' > without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG - www.avg.com > Version: 8.5.421 / Virus Database: 270.14.20/2439 - Release Date: 10/15/09 > 20:39:00 >

Hi folks, It's been a little while since a I posted so thought it was time to do so again. Does anyone recognize any of the surnames in the subject line, if so please contact me. I am trying to locate in particular a baptism for Ann PLOMER abt 1683 of Litlington, Cambridge. Her father is said to be John PLOMER, mother unknown but she married my Robert Parcell abt 1703 Ashwell, I think. She could even be from Ashwell, I'm not sure. Her father John was born sometime around 1657 possibly in Cambridgeshire. I am not sure but Robert is suppose to be from Litlington as well with parents of John Parcell and Miriam (unknown). If some kind soul could do a look up for me in the Parish Registers for Litlington, it would be greatly appreciated. A maiden name for Miriam would help also. I have tried on ancestry, freereg and the IGI but I have not found anything positive from there. TIA regards Sharon Kirby Rockhampton, Qld, Australia

Hello Sharon, >From Ashwell PR Transcripts: 25 April 1703 Robert PASSELL & Ann PLOMER married According to the Cambridgeshire FHS Baptismal Index, there are no PLOMER baptisms from 1603-1702 although there are a batch in Leverington in the mid to late 1500s and a batch at Cambridge Holy Trinity in the late 1550s, a couple at Ickleton and a couple at Kennet also mid to late 1500s - perhaps worth bearing in mind if you get back earlier. Likewise no baptism shown for Robert in Cambridgeshire under any of the various spellings of his surname. However, there are the following baptisms at Litlington to Robert and Ann according to the Litlington PR Transcripts: 25 December 1706 Robert PARCELL 22 April 1708 Mary PARCELL 28 September 1709 John PARCELL 1 October 1710 Elizabeth PARCELL 6 October 1713 Plummer PARCELL Burials at Litlington: 17 August 1750 Eliz PASSELL, wife of Rob 6 May 1788 Robert PASSEL (Bishops Transcripts husbandman) No marriages of any of the children at Litlington that I can see on the Transcripts. Going back to Ashwell PR Transcripts: 26 March 1704 Anne PASSELL daughter Robert & Anne baptised 5 November 1705 Sarah PASSELL daughter Robert & Anne baptised buried 22 January 1705/6 23 September 1709 John PASSELL son Robert, labourer, buried 6 October 1720 Robert PASSEL of Litlington Cambs buried 13 July 1736 Anne PASSELL, widow Unfortunately, not all of the records are complete prior to 1686 (there is a gap between Mar 1676 & April 1685 & another one between 1640 & 1660 which are just the timescales you are interested in) on the transcripts but here are the ones which could be relevant to you: 19 April 1664 Richard PLOMER son William & Alice baptised 24 September 1664 George PLOMER son John & Sarah baptised 2 July 1666 Elizabeth PASSELL daughter William & Joane baptised 17 September 1666 William PASSELL, paterfamilias buried 6 September 1667 Sarah PLOMER daughter John & Sarah buried 15 December 1667 Susan PASSELL wife John buried November 1670 Willyam PLOMER son Samuel & Ann baptised 13 November 1670 Ann wife Samuel PLOMER buried 16 May 1671 Willyam PASSILL son John & Miriam baptised 11 October 1671 John PLOMER & Ann GODFERY married There are others prior to 1664 but unless we can determine which of the above are the appropriate parents for your Robert & Anne, it will just complicate things totally. If Ann PLOMER's father is supposed to be a John (how do you know this by the way??), there would appear to be 2 candidates - the John who married Ann GODFERY (presumably GODFREY which is what HALS Online MI shows it as) and the John PLOMER married to a Sarah. Of course, the John who married Ann could be a son of the John & Sarah but the relevant records are missing. However, you may just be lucky in that on the National Archives Documents Online site () are the following wills which could just help you sort out who were the parents of Robert & Anne (downloadable online at the cost of £3.50 each): 13 April 1728 Mary GODFREY, widow, of Ashwell (perhaps Ann's grandmother??) 9 March 1717 Joan PASSELL, widow, of Ashwell (could perhaps be Robert's grandmother??) 2 December 1715 John GODFREY, gentleman, Ashwell (perhaps Ann's grandfather??) 12 November 1666 William PLOMER, yeoman, Ashwell 5 February 1666 William PLOMER, yeoman, Ashwell 23 November 1651 Edward PLOMER, tanner, Ashwell I think Joan PASSELL's will is definitely worth speculating on and maybe one of the GODFREY wills too. If they are connected to your families, they could give you valuable information especially in view of the missing parish register records. >From the HALS Online Marriage Index (www.hertsdirect.org/libsleisure/heritage1/HALS/ - click on Hertfordshire Names Online and then use the search boxes): 25 July 1741 Plummer PASSELL of Biggleswade, Beds & Mary LAYTON of Ashwell at Letchworth Lots of other PASSEL(L) & PARCEL(L) & PLOMER records so could be worth a look for you. HTH a little Janet

Both Ashwell, Herts, and Litlington baptisms and marriages have been extracted onto the IGI, but there are no Plomers in Litlington. The closest is Pammer of which there are two baptisms 1654-56. There are numerous Plomer baptisms in Ashwell mainly in the first half of the 1600s, but oddly there are no marriages. Without baptisms for either Robert or Ann, and no marriage for them, how can you be sure about their parentage? Other than they named a son "Plummer" how do you know Ann was even a Plummer? David --- En date de : Ven 16.10.09, Sharon Kirby <Sharon@kirbyhut.com> a écrit : > De: Sharon Kirby <Sharon@kirbyhut.com> > Objet: [ENG-CAMS] Surnames: Plomer/Plummer etc, Parcell/Passell > À: ENG-CAMBRIDGESHIRE@rootsweb.com > Date: Vendredi 16 Octobre 2009, 6h41 > Hi folks, > > It's been a little while since a I posted so thought it was > time to do so again.  Does anyone recognize any of the > surnames in the subject line, if so please contact me.  > I am trying to locate in particular a baptism for Ann PLOMER > abt 1683 of Litlington, Cambridge.  Her father is said > to be John PLOMER, mother unknown but she married my Robert > Parcell abt 1703 Ashwell, I think. She could even be from > Ashwell, I'm not sure. Her father John was born sometime > around 1657 possibly in Cambridgeshire. I am not sure but > Robert is suppose to be from Litlington as well with parents > of John Parcell and Miriam (unknown).  If some kind > soul could do a look up for me in the Parish Registers for > Litlington, it would be greatly appreciated.  A maiden > name for Miriam would help also. I have tried on ancestry, > freereg and the IGI but I have not found anything positive > from there.  > > TIA > > regards > > Sharon Kirby > Rockhampton, Qld, Australia > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to ENG-CAMBRIDGESHIRE-request@rootsweb.com > with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the > subject and the body of the message >

Not sure if there will be any connection but my ex-wife's family were CORNWELLs. They hailed from the 1800, at least, from the Welney area in Cambridgeshire/Norfolk border area Regards, Bruce -----Original Message----- From: eng-cambridgeshire-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:eng-cambridgeshire-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Simon Sent: 12 October 2009 18:40 To: eng-cambridgeshire@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [ENG-CAMS] CORNWELL surname - Newmarket area? Mark Cornwell is certainly a very common Cambridgeshire name, especially in the villages to the north and east of the city of Cambridge. A good guide to the distribution in the early 20th century is on roll of honour, which is pretty well complete for Cambridgeshire. My mother's maiden name is Cornwell, and they came mostly from in and around Histon, to at least back into the 18th century. They tended to have very big families! However, be aware that they show up on census data as Cornwell, Cornell, Cornal, Cornhile and even Cromwell. One of my ancestors in 19th Century Histon is shown living next door to his brother's family, and they are given slightly different surnames. I have also seen it often in graveyards along the Cambridgeshire border with Norfolk and Suffolk, but that must be a different, richer branch of the family, because I doubt that any of my lot would have afforded a gravestone. Simon www.norfolkchurches.co.uk www.suffolkchurches.co.uk r.partridge@ukonline.co.uk wrote: > Hi Mark ! > > Nivard's suggestion (below) is a very good one as the word will spread > around East Anglia much more quickly ! - and one county that you > should definitely look at is Essex, as the well-known thriller writer > Bernard CORNWELL came from there ! That is why he uses the "South Essex Regiment" > in his "Sharpe" series of books and the TV series which developed from it. > > I also have a distant relative in my Family Tree who came from Essex > and whose maiden name was CORNWELL ! > > Good Hunting ! Best Wishes ! Roger. > -------------- > Quoting Nivard Ovington <ovington1@sky.com>: > > >> Hi Mark >> >> Just a thought but instead of posting one or two names on multiple >> lists, why not list them all in one go >> >> Nivard Ovington in Cornwall (UK) >> -------------------------------- >> >> >>> Dear Listers, >>> This is a complete longshot - but I am hoping someone out there >>> might be able to help? >>> >>> I have come across an old Army regimental photo in some family >>> 'junk' but cannot see any obvious link to my family. To try to >>> unearth a link but also out of interest I am trying to trace some of >>> the soldiers named on the photo. >>> The photo was taken of the '18 Medium Regiment of the Royal >>> Artillery' in 1953. Possibly at the barrack HQ in Larkhill, Wiltshire, UK. >>> >>> In it there is a J. A. CORNWELL. >>> >>> My research tells me that CORNWEL is most common in Cambs, possibly >>> from the Newmarket area?. >>> >>> Does anyone know anything about this man or can help me trace his >>> descendents? >>> >>> Many thanks >>> Mark >>> > > > > ---------------------------------------------- > This mail sent through http://www.ukonline.net > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > ENG-CAMBRIDGESHIRE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' > without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > -- > > > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG - www.avg.com > Version: 8.5.421 / Virus Database: 270.14.12/2431 - Release Date: > 10/12/09 13:01:00 > > ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to ENG-CAMBRIDGESHIRE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 8.5.421 / Virus Database: 270.14.13/2432 - Release Date: 10/13/09 06:35:00

Mark Cornwell is certainly a very common Cambridgeshire name, especially in the villages to the north and east of the city of Cambridge. A good guide to the distribution in the early 20th century is on roll of honour, which is pretty well complete for Cambridgeshire. My mother's maiden name is Cornwell, and they came mostly from in and around Histon, to at least back into the 18th century. They tended to have very big families! However, be aware that they show up on census data as Cornwell, Cornell, Cornal, Cornhile and even Cromwell. One of my ancestors in 19th Century Histon is shown living next door to his brother's family, and they are given slightly different surnames. I have also seen it often in graveyards along the Cambridgeshire border with Norfolk and Suffolk, but that must be a different, richer branch of the family, because I doubt that any of my lot would have afforded a gravestone. Simon www.norfolkchurches.co.uk www.suffolkchurches.co.uk r.partridge@ukonline.co.uk wrote: > Hi Mark ! > > Nivard's suggestion (below) is a very good one as the word will spread > around East Anglia much more quickly ! - and one county that you should > definitely look at is Essex, as the well-known thriller writer Bernard > CORNWELL came from there ! That is why he uses the "South Essex Regiment" > in his "Sharpe" series of books and the TV series which developed from it. > > I also have a distant relative in my Family Tree who came from Essex and > whose maiden name was CORNWELL ! > > Good Hunting ! Best Wishes ! Roger. > -------------- > Quoting Nivard Ovington <ovington1@sky.com>: > > >> Hi Mark >> >> Just a thought but instead of posting one or two names on multiple lists, >> why not list them all in one go >> >> Nivard Ovington in Cornwall (UK) >> -------------------------------- >> >> >>> Dear Listers, >>> This is a complete longshot - but I am hoping someone out there might be >>> able to help? >>> >>> I have come across an old Army regimental photo in some family 'junk' but >>> cannot see any obvious link to my family. To try to unearth a link but >>> also >>> out of interest I am trying to trace some of the soldiers named on the >>> photo. >>> The photo was taken of the '18 Medium Regiment of the Royal Artillery' in >>> 1953. Possibly at the barrack HQ in Larkhill, Wiltshire, UK. >>> >>> In it there is a J. A. CORNWELL. >>> >>> My research tells me that CORNWEL is most common in Cambs, >>> possibly from the Newmarket area?. >>> >>> Does anyone know anything about this man or can help me trace his >>> descendents? >>> >>> Many thanks >>> Mark >>> > > > > ---------------------------------------------- > This mail sent through http://www.ukonline.net > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to ENG-CAMBRIDGESHIRE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG - www.avg.com > Version: 8.5.421 / Virus Database: 270.14.12/2431 - Release Date: 10/12/09 13:01:00 > >