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    1. Re: [ENG-CAMS] Fincham in Littleport
    2. Carl Buckle
    3. Thanks Bob for such as speedy reply Carl -----Original Message----- From: eng-cambridgeshire-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:eng-cambridgeshire-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Bob Hutchins Sent: Sunday, December 06, 2009 11:00 AM To: eng-cambridgeshire@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [ENG-CAMS] Fincham in Littleport The Marriage was 2nd Dec 1839 Littleport St George William Bac of full age son of John Labourer Sarah was a minor daughter of John a labourer both of the parish Witnesses Joseph Nicholas & Mary South who made their mark Bob -- Genealogy Web Database http://www.bobhutchins.me.uk http://www.roberthutchins.me.uk Bob recommends Linux Ubuntu 9.10 On Sun, 2009-12-06 at 10:35 +0000, Carl Buckle wrote: > Hi, > > If anyone has marriage record for Littleport, I am looking for the marriage > of William Fincham & Sarah Stimpson in the December quarter of 1839 > > > > Carl > > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to ENG-CAMBRIDGESHIRE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to ENG-CAMBRIDGESHIRE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

    12/06/2009 04:17:53
    1. Re: [ENG-CAMS] Fincham in Littleport
    2. Bob Hutchins
    3. The Marriage was 2nd Dec 1839 Littleport St George William Bac of full age son of John Labourer Sarah was a minor daughter of John a labourer both of the parish Witnesses Joseph Nicholas & Mary South who made their mark Bob -- Genealogy Web Database http://www.bobhutchins.me.uk http://www.roberthutchins.me.uk Bob recommends Linux Ubuntu 9.10 On Sun, 2009-12-06 at 10:35 +0000, Carl Buckle wrote: > Hi, > > If anyone has marriage record for Littleport, I am looking for the marriage > of William Fincham & Sarah Stimpson in the December quarter of 1839 > > > > Carl > > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to ENG-CAMBRIDGESHIRE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

    12/06/2009 04:00:15
    1. [ENG-CAMS] Fincham in Littleport
    2. Carl Buckle
    3. Hi, If anyone has marriage record for Littleport, I am looking for the marriage of William Fincham & Sarah Stimpson in the December quarter of 1839 Carl

    12/06/2009 03:35:35
    1. [ENG-CAMS] Looking for the names DEWEY/NORTON/CURTIS/WHITEROD
    2. Karen Hill
    3. Hi everyone Its been a while since I posted on here some of my surname interests so here goes. The Dewey family were originally from the Witchford area of Cambridgeshire when James Dewey decided he was to marry into the Norton family who were situated in the Waterbeach area. Settling there James and his new wife Eliza were to have many children. One of them was George Dewey born 1848 who married a young lady by the name of Annie Curtis. Again Annie was from a family already established in Waterbeach. I had the pleasure recently of visiting Waterbeach. A lovely little village, even complete with its own railway station. I was also able to get an idea of where the family lived during this time. Whilst there I tried to get some old photos of the area but was only successful in getting a copy of one that was taken in 1870. I don't know if anyone knows where else I could look? Some of the sons of George and Annie were to move to Sheffiled, which is where I live now. I assume they moved in search of work. However some stayed in the Waterbeach area and I believe the Whiterod name is one that one of the daughters married into. I'd be interested in chatting with anyone with connections to these or other branches of my family tree. Many thanks Karen Beasley

    12/06/2009 03:23:32
    1. Re: [ENG-CAMS] The elusive Henry PAGE
    2. Simon
    3. Thanks to everyone who helped me look for Henry. Just for the sake of this thread in the archives, I want to say that I have found the solution. As Hercules Poirot might have said, there are two kinds of mystery. There are the ones that nobody knows about, and the ones that nobody talks about. The mystery of Henry Page turned out to be the second kind. I discovered that a) Henry WAS named as the father of his wife Alice's last child Helen, born in 1900, and that b) one of Henry's sons, the famed Ely drummer boy Herbert Page, names both parents as next-of-kin on his attestation papers in 1908. So Henry was still alive then. However, Herbert's mother and father were living at different addresses. Mum was on Back Hill, and Henry was in a lodging house on the Waterside. I sent for the death certificate that Peter suggested. Lo and behold, it is Henry, of course. The age is seven years out, but this is because (and you may have guessed this) the person who informed the death did not know Henry at all. Henry died in the Ely Workhouse on the 21st October 1913. Tracking back to the 1911 census, I found him living in the workhouse, his occupation named as 'former road labourer'. His age was wrong and his place of birth not quite right, although I still think the clumsy search engine on 'findmypast' should really have been able to cope with that (it would have saved me several weeks of searching!). He had either given his age wrong or it had been written in the books wrong. At this distance, there is a certain glamour in having a great-great-grandfather who died in the Workhouse. Of course, it cannot have seemed like that at the time. What seems extraordinary to me is that my grandmother had been alive for six months at this stage, and she was the youngest child, so her brothers and sisters would have been of an age to know. I remember long talks with her elder brother when I was young (he is dead now) and he would have been 13 when his grandfather died, but he never mentioned it. Perhaps it was simply not talked about. It seems likely that it would have been a cause for shame - my grandmother came from two large and desperately poor Waterside families, the Pages and the Crosses (indeed, one of her Cross great-aunts was in the workhouse at the same time as Henry!) so the Workhouse must have hung like a constant shadow over their lives. I think it is probable that my grandmother, God rest her, never even knew. Simon norfolkchurches.co.uk suffolkchurches.co.uk Peter Jarman wrote: > On Free BMD I saw an entry of a death for Henry Page - Ely 3b 588 in > December 1913, though the age is given as 69 (sometimes these can be out) > > Perhaps you will have checked that already? > > Peter Jarman > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: eng-cambridgeshire-bounces@rootsweb.com > [mailto:eng-cambridgeshire-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Simon > Sent: 24 November 2009 21:58 > To: eng-cambridgeshire@rootsweb.com > Subject: [ENG-CAMS] The elusive Henry PAGE > > I wonder if anyone has come across my great-great-grandfather, whom I > appear to have somewhat carelessly misplaced. > > Henry Page was born in the High Street, Great Shelford on the outskirts > of Cambridge in 1851. He married Alice Wiseman in Ely in the third > quarter of 1873, and they are recorded together on the 1881 census > living with five children in Annesdale, Ely, one of whom was Arthur, my > great-grandfather. By 1891 they had moved around the corner to Broad > Street, and had seven children at home. > > By the time of the 1901 census, Henry has gone. Alice is described as > 'Married' rather than as 'Widow', and her relationship to the head of > the household is described as 'Wife' rather than as 'Head'. This > suggests that Henry is still alive but living elsewhere. But I cannot > find Henry, and he does not appear to be recorded elsewhere on the 1901 > census. > > The last Page child, Helen, was born in 1900. There are three Page > children born after Henry's last appearance on a census in 1891 - > although, of course, these children may not be Henry's! There is an > interesting and possibly significant five year gap between the last two > children. > > Henry is also not to be found on the 1911 census, but things are > complicated further because Alice is also no longer at home. She is in > Addenbrooke's Hospital in Cambridge dying of stomach cancer. She answers > '35 years' to the required question on the 1911 census about how long > she has been married (it was actually 38 years since the marriage date), > and states that she has had 13 children, one of whom has died. > > Alice herself died in 1912. The death was notified by her eldest son, > Henry. Intriguingly, her condition is not described as 'Widow' but as > 'Wife of Henry Page, General Labourer', suggesting that Henry was still > alive - or, at least, that the family believed him to be so. > > There are, of course, many possibilities, but I am open to suggestions. > > Two of Henry and Alice's sons died in WWI, one at Ypres, another, my > great-grandfather, on the Somme. She died before she knew about this. I > wonder if he did too? > > Simon >

    12/06/2009 03:10:49
    1. Re: [ENG-CAMS] Archidex
    2. Paula Patterson
    3. Tony Pottrell wrote: > Hi all, > > I'll not send out any more emails about the tool as I don't want to fill > people's inboxes unnecessarily. I'll just release new versions every > Sunday from now on where possible from the same download link as below: > > www.pottrell.com/archidex/Archidex.exe > > It's a self extracting archive, once downloaded double click on it and > it will ask you where you want to extract it to. Once extracted, run > the Archidex.exe file in the new folder. Future releases may include a > Mac version if there is sufficient demand for it. > > The tool currently has just under 3000 entries at the moment from: > > Chrishall (1617-1761, in progress), Heydon (1558-1755), Great Chishall > (1623 - 1655, in progress), Little Chishall (1577-1760), Wendon Lofts > (1674-1812). More to come... > > Feedback, PR transcriptions and comments welcome :) > > Cheers all, > > Tony > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to ENG-CAMBRIDGESHIRE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > Tony What format do you want entries in? Paula

    12/05/2009 03:49:36
    1. [ENG-CAMS] Archidex
    2. Tony Pottrell
    3. Hi all, I'll not send out any more emails about the tool as I don't want to fill people's inboxes unnecessarily. I'll just release new versions every Sunday from now on where possible from the same download link as below: www.pottrell.com/archidex/Archidex.exe It's a self extracting archive, once downloaded double click on it and it will ask you where you want to extract it to. Once extracted, run the Archidex.exe file in the new folder. Future releases may include a Mac version if there is sufficient demand for it. The tool currently has just under 3000 entries at the moment from: Chrishall (1617-1761, in progress), Heydon (1558-1755), Great Chishall (1623 - 1655, in progress), Little Chishall (1577-1760), Wendon Lofts (1674-1812). More to come... Feedback, PR transcriptions and comments welcome :) Cheers all, Tony

    12/05/2009 07:37:12
    1. Re: [ENG-CAMS] Cambridge regiment postcards
    2. Tony Pottrell
    3. Hi Maureen, Thanks for the heads up - I actually found a postcard of one of my family a few months back, I can't imagine how it got into the hands of the seller though! Tony Maureen Rust wrote: > I thought someone might be interested in these items on ebay - nothing to do with me ( although I wish there was a picture of my ancestor!) - > > This is just a small selection of what is offered > > > > A collection of postcards and ephemera relating to the Cambridgeshire Regiment. > > 1.. Postcard of Private Russell, 1st Battalion, believed about 1925. In good condition. > 2.. Postcard of Private Lowe from Christchurch, 2nd Battalion, believed about 1940. Photo clear although card in poor condition. > 3.. Postcard of Private Seekings from March. Believed Canterbury about 1925. Photo clear but card in poor condition. > 4.. Private Harry Wicks, 1st Battalion. Believed Colchester about 1927. Card in good condition. > 5.. Private James Burton from Wimblington. Killed in action 24th January 1942. Photo clear although card in poor condition. > Hope I haven't infringed any rules. > > Mo > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to ENG-CAMBRIDGESHIRE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > >

    12/04/2009 02:49:15
    1. Re: [ENG-CAMS] New member interest - JENNINGS/STARLING
    2. Mrs V Atkinson
    3. I have Matthew back 6 generations, he is my 3rd cousin 3x removed. V Atkinson ----- Original Message ----- From: "Gwynn Trenck" <numa1@carolina.rr.com> To: <eng-cambridgeshire@rootsweb.com> Sent: Tuesday, December 01, 2009 12:35 AM Subject: [ENG-CAMS] New member interest - JENNINGS/STARLING > Hello all. > > I am new to the list and wanted to see if anyone else out there is > researching the same line. > I am researching Matthew J Starling born 1823 Woodditton to Susan > Starling. > Married Susan Deeks in 1846 and had seven children. All boys had middle > name > of Jennings and that name was adopted at some point to replace Starling. I > had just recently discovered this info after chasing the wrong line for > about two years :-) > > Would love to hear from anyone researching either line as I have a lot of > info on them too. > > Also have a certificate for George Jennings regestered Jun 1848 Newmarket > Vol 14 Pg 126 . Would be happy to mail to anyone interested, bad guess on > my > part. > > Regards to all, > Gwynneth > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > ENG-CAMBRIDGESHIRE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' > without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

    12/03/2009 09:14:23
    1. [ENG-CAMS] Surname CHRISTMAS, ROBERT 1640
    2. Ray Christmas
    3. Dear Rootswebber Listers, I'm a new recruit and I would be grateful for help or directions or references to pursue my search. Ref IKLETON in CAMBS I have traced my CHRISTMAS TREE back to a ROBERT Christmas who was clergyman at CHOBHAM CHURCH in Surrey in circa 1640, son of Nicholas C of Ickleton. No age or other info so far. This scanty info came from the custodian of CHRISTMAS One Name Study Guild. Maybe that was his burial year. He most probably had a BA from CAMBRIDGE or Oxford Universiies a qualification that many other Christmases had to aquire to become clergymen. I have not yet come across any of these others in my tree. I have visited the church on family history search 'hoidays' to UK from New Zealand and I have seen his name listed with all other clergymen of that church on the 'ceiling' of the entrance 'lychgate ?' roof At the IGS family history Centre this evening, in the limited time available, I came across about 3 Roberts 1. Bapt at Ickleton (close to Cambridge University and a likely student) in 1573 which would have made him 67 in 1640. 2 Bapt 29 Dec 1603, buried at Ickleton, at St Mary Magdelene church Cambs. 3 Bapt or Christened about 1604 at Guildford. Parents John C and his wife Alice nee Underwood. I look forward to any assistance. Kind regards, Ray Christmas in New Zealand.

    12/01/2009 05:08:23
    1. [ENG-CAMS] Lever
    2. Doug Lever
    3. Hi All,I am seeking info on a Lever who was burser at Trinity College Cambridge and died before 1885. Can any one help Thanks Doug Lever 527 Waingaro Rd RD1 Ngaruawahia Ph 07 8249475 New Zealand

    12/01/2009 07:53:39
    1. Re: [ENG-CAMS] Lever (Doug Lever)
    2. Rod Strong
    3. Hi Doug, Very many, if not all, colleges at Oxford and Cambridge and many of the older universities too have archives. These are sometimes separate from the college libraries or may be part of them. Virtually all have a web presence so Googling them will nearly always turn something up such as an e-mail contact like the one for Trinity College, Cambridge below. Though the archives are provided primarily for academic purposes I have found some do offer help to family historians - I guess it's down to individual pressures of work and the personal sympathies of the archivist. archives@trin.cam.ac.uk Rod S.

    12/01/2009 03:07:07
    1. [ENG-CAMS] Cambridge regiment postcards
    2. Maureen Rust
    3. I thought someone might be interested in these items on ebay - nothing to do with me ( although I wish there was a picture of my ancestor!) - This is just a small selection of what is offered A collection of postcards and ephemera relating to the Cambridgeshire Regiment. 1.. Postcard of Private Russell, 1st Battalion, believed about 1925. In good condition. 2.. Postcard of Private Lowe from Christchurch, 2nd Battalion, believed about 1940. Photo clear although card in poor condition. 3.. Postcard of Private Seekings from March. Believed Canterbury about 1925. Photo clear but card in poor condition. 4.. Private Harry Wicks, 1st Battalion. Believed Colchester about 1927. Card in good condition. 5.. Private James Burton from Wimblington. Killed in action 24th January 1942. Photo clear although card in poor condition. Hope I haven't infringed any rules. Mo

    12/01/2009 02:06:38
    1. Re: [ENG-CAMS] Lever (Doug Lever)
    2. lfenimore
    3. I would like to second what Rod said about contacting the archivist. I recently did that for a Townshend question and found the archivist [Hertford, Oxf] to be very friendly and helpful. I think specific questions help - in return, she requested a copy of what I wrote up for their files. Liane

    12/01/2009 12:29:49
    1. [ENG-CAMS] New member interest - JENNINGS/STARLING
    2. Gwynn Trenck
    3. Hello all. I am new to the list and wanted to see if anyone else out there is researching the same line. I am researching Matthew J Starling born 1823 Woodditton to Susan Starling. Married Susan Deeks in 1846 and had seven children. All boys had middle name of Jennings and that name was adopted at some point to replace Starling. I had just recently discovered this info after chasing the wrong line for about two years :-) Would love to hear from anyone researching either line as I have a lot of info on them too. Also have a certificate for George Jennings regestered Jun 1848 Newmarket Vol 14 Pg 126 . Would be happy to mail to anyone interested, bad guess on my part. Regards to all, Gwynneth

    11/30/2009 12:35:38
    1. Re: [ENG-CAMS] Archidex, a PR transcription database
    2. Tony Pottrell
    3. Yes, for now. There is a possibility of producing a Mac version in due course if there is a demand for it? john ffitch wrote: > ...... for Windows only..... > ==John ffitch > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to ENG-CAMBRIDGESHIRE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > >

    11/30/2009 05:23:20
    1. [ENG-CAMS] Archidex, a PR transcription database
    2. john ffitch
    3. ...... for Windows only..... ==John ffitch

    11/30/2009 03:30:19
    1. [ENG-CAMS] Archidex, a PR transcription database
    2. Tony Pottrell
    3. Hi all, I've looked around on the Rootsweb website for any rules against self-plugging / advertising but I couldn't find any. Apologies if I'm annoying anyone, but hopefully you can see the benefits :) I've just uploaded the first beta version of the tool, which contains the transcribed PRs for Wendon Lofts, Little Chishill, Heydon and the first installment of the Chrishall PRs. I hope to add more PRs in the future and a few extra bells and whistles, if anyone would like to donate any PRs to the cause I'd be more than happy to accept them! (I've gone through 2 packs of paracetamols!). The tool can be downloaded from: http://www.pottrell.com/archidex/Archidex v1.0b.zip (18MB) or if you have 7zip you can download it from http://www.pottrell.com/archidex/Archidex v1.0b.7z (11MB) Please note that I've limited it to expire on the 7th of December as it's only a beta at this stage. If you have any suggestions / requests / questions please let me know :) Thanks, Tony Tony Pottrell wrote: > Hi all, > > For the last few weeks I've been busy transcribing the PRs for a few > villages in the Chrishall area (Within the borders of Essex) for a > genealogy tool I'm putting together. The tool is essentially an offline > searchable transcribed and indexed copy of the parish registers, which > should allow anyone to easily find any entries they're looking for. > > I'll be offering the application as a free download from my website, with > downloadable PRs to add the application as they are completed. The > application itself is almost ready to release, but if anyone needs any > lookups for the PRs in the area please let me know and I can use them to > test the tool. I've already found several of my own relations from entries > that do not appear on Familysearch.org :) > > Cheers, > > Tony > (Hoping there isn't already a tool out there that does the same thing...) > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ > Any problems, please contact the List Admin: Essex-UK-admin@rootsweb.com > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to ESSEX-UK-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > >

    11/29/2009 02:11:41
    1. Re: [ENG-CAMS] The elusive Henry PAGE
    2. Jeanette Lee
    3. Simon as regard your elusive ancestor leaving for the colonies have you tried Findmypast. You can search the name free although it will cost you to look at the actual record. I am not sure when the shipping records start but I think it is sometime about 1896. Regards Jeanette ----- Original Message ----- From: "Simon" <simon@simonknott.co.uk> To: <eng-cambridgeshire@rootsweb.com> Sent: Wednesday, November 25, 2009 4:39 PM Subject: Re: [ENG-CAMS] The elusive Henry PAGE > Hello Peter > > Thanks for that - yes, I'm keeping an eye on that one. It is, as you > say, the wrong age for Henry, and Page is a common enough Ely name, but > as yet I may still send for the death certificate. Whatever it turns out > to be, of course, it does not answer the question of what and where > Henry might be between 1891 and 1913, and so I think my next port of > call will probably be the birth certificates of the children born after > 1891, just to see if Henry is (or is claimed to be) the father. > > I am still wondering if there is some possibility staring me in the face > - were poor ag labs from Ely in the 1890s encouraged to head off to the > colonies, for example. > > Cheers > > Simon > > >> >

    11/25/2009 10:24:52
    1. Re: [ENG-CAMS] The elusive Henry PAGE
    2. Simon
    3. Hello Peter Thanks for that - yes, I'm keeping an eye on that one. It is, as you say, the wrong age for Henry, and Page is a common enough Ely name, but as yet I may still send for the death certificate. Whatever it turns out to be, of course, it does not answer the question of what and where Henry might be between 1891 and 1913, and so I think my next port of call will probably be the birth certificates of the children born after 1891, just to see if Henry is (or is claimed to be) the father. I am still wondering if there is some possibility staring me in the face - were poor ag labs from Ely in the 1890s encouraged to head off to the colonies, for example. Cheers Simon Peter Jarman wrote: > On Free BMD I saw an entry of a death for Henry Page - Ely 3b 588 in > December 1913, though the age is given as 69 (sometimes these can be out) > > Perhaps you will have checked that already? > > Peter Jarman > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: eng-cambridgeshire-bounces@rootsweb.com > [mailto:eng-cambridgeshire-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Simon > Sent: 24 November 2009 21:58 > To: eng-cambridgeshire@rootsweb.com > Subject: [ENG-CAMS] The elusive Henry PAGE > > I wonder if anyone has come across my great-great-grandfather, whom I > appear to have somewhat carelessly misplaced. > > Henry Page was born in the High Street, Great Shelford on the outskirts > of Cambridge in 1851. He married Alice Wiseman in Ely in the third > quarter of 1873, and they are recorded together on the 1881 census > living with five children in Annesdale, Ely, one of whom was Arthur, my > great-grandfather. By 1891 they had moved around the corner to Broad > Street, and had seven children at home. > > By the time of the 1901 census, Henry has gone. Alice is described as > 'Married' rather than as 'Widow', and her relationship to the head of > the household is described as 'Wife' rather than as 'Head'. This > suggests that Henry is still alive but living elsewhere. But I cannot > find Henry, and he does not appear to be recorded elsewhere on the 1901 > census. > > The last Page child, Helen, was born in 1900. There are three Page > children born after Henry's last appearance on a census in 1891 - > although, of course, these children may not be Henry's! There is an > interesting and possibly significant five year gap between the last two > children. > > Henry is also not to be found on the 1911 census, but things are > complicated further because Alice is also no longer at home. She is in > Addenbrooke's Hospital in Cambridge dying of stomach cancer. She answers > '35 years' to the required question on the 1911 census about how long > she has been married (it was actually 38 years since the marriage date), > and states that she has had 13 children, one of whom has died. > > Alice herself died in 1912. The death was notified by her eldest son, > Henry. Intriguingly, her condition is not described as 'Widow' but as > 'Wife of Henry Page, General Labourer', suggesting that Henry was still > alive - or, at least, that the family believed him to be so. > > There are, of course, many possibilities, but I am open to suggestions. > > Two of Henry and Alice's sons died in WWI, one at Ypres, another, my > great-grandfather, on the Somme. She died before she knew about this. I > wonder if he did too? > > Simon > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > ENG-CAMBRIDGESHIRE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without > the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG - www.avg.com > Version: 8.5.425 / Virus Database: 270.14.76/2519 - Release Date: 11/22/09 > 07:38:00 > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to ENG-CAMBRIDGESHIRE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG - www.avg.com > Version: 8.5.425 / Virus Database: 270.14.80/2523 - Release Date: 11/24/09 07:46:00 > >

    11/25/2009 12:39:13