Hi I am researching the RIPLEY family who lived in Cambridge. Charlotte STOAKLEY married John Frederick RIPLEY in 1864 at St Paul's Church, Cambridge; they were both born in 1844. I have been told that they had 12 children, but so far I have only been able to find 10. FreeREG has only baptism entry for this family - that of Frederick Theodore RIPLEY on 14 Jul 1867 at St Sepulchre, Cambridge. Does anyone have any information which might be useful to me? I would be very grateful to receive any information about any of their descendants. Many thanks, Lesley

Simon The introduction to the CFHS CD/PR/009 for Holy Trinity Ely makes no reference to St. Peters, so it's not possible to say from this source. Hopefully an official of the CFHS will have more background to help you Bob Burns -----Original Message----- From: eng-cambridgeshire-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:eng-cambridgeshire-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Simon Sent: Friday, February 26, 2010 11:43 AM To: eng-cambridgeshire@rootsweb.com Subject: [ENG-CAMS] Ely Holy Trinity and St Peter's church Can someone tell me if the CD-rom of Ely Holy Trinity 1559-1938 includes the records of St Peter's church? St Peter's is in Broad Street, within Holy Trinity parish. It was opened in 1889, but I believe that it had the status of a donative church rather than a chapel of ease. Being a donative means that it might have been attached to St Mary's parish rather than Holy Trinity. When I was talking to the churchwarden a few months back, he was not really sure where the parish records were - we looked through all the drawers in the vestry, but we couldn't find them. Then he though they were probably in the 'crypt' - a coal hole under the floor of the church currently used for storing junk. St Peter's was,and is, licenced for baptisms, but not for marriages. Up until 1938, when Holy Trinity and St Mary's parishes were merged, several generations of my family were baptised in St Peter's but married in the Lady Chapel of the cathedral. I'd be keen to see chapter and verse on both events. Simon norfolkchurches.co.uk suffolkchurches.co.uk ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to ENG-CAMBRIDGESHIRE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Can someone tell me if the CD-rom of Ely Holy Trinity 1559-1938 includes the records of St Peter's church? St Peter's is in Broad Street, within Holy Trinity parish. It was opened in 1889, but I believe that it had the status of a donative church rather than a chapel of ease. Being a donative means that it might have been attached to St Mary's parish rather than Holy Trinity. When I was talking to the churchwarden a few months back, he was not really sure where the parish records were - we looked through all the drawers in the vestry, but we couldn't find them. Then he though they were probably in the 'crypt' - a coal hole under the floor of the church currently used for storing junk. St Peter's was,and is, licenced for baptisms, but not for marriages. Up until 1938, when Holy Trinity and St Mary's parishes were merged, several generations of my family were baptised in St Peter's but married in the Lady Chapel of the cathedral. I'd be keen to see chapter and verse on both events. Simon norfolkchurches.co.uk suffolkchurches.co.uk

Thanks Simon for the valuable input on Eliza and John Bishop's burials. It seems in initially asking about my grans father also named John Bishop I have in fact gained missing information on his parents. I am grateful for the assistance being not from England let alone Cambridgeshire. As to the "U' if as is suggested by Simon the "U" is in fact a transcription error it will mean this is twice I have had John Powell Bishop's details transcribed in error. It took quite a while to find his and Eliza's marriage which turned out to have him listed as "Jane Powell Bishop". On viewing the original page online it was clear Jane was in fact John. I know however how easy it can be to type something like this in error. Volunteers to a marvelous job. Can some answer my most nagging question as to whether there is some source out there that may provide newpaper records of obituaries in 1904 around the Coates area or maybe Peterborough. John Bishop (jnr) was buried in the Coates churchyard 25th April 1904. As he was a policeman at the time I am not sure if the Coates police would have been present or his death noted in the newspaper due to his involvement. Again I do not know if he has a headstone. His wife remarried but is also buried in the same churchyard possibly with her 2nd husband. This couple was Mary Elizabeth and Thomas Henry Neal who died 14 April 1959 and 7th Aug 1954 respectively. As these are later burials there may be a headstone but as I am not in England I do not know how to check. Thanks once again. Dawn On Tue, Feb 23, 2010 at 3:52 AM, Simon <simon@simonknott.co.uk> wrote: > > > Dawn > > I had a look at the Ely Cemetery burial records, and Eliza Bishop was > buried in Ely Cemetery on 29th April 1921. She died at Lynn Road in Ely, > which may well be the same address as that John had died at, but Lynn > Road is a long road. The Minister who read the burial service was a Rev. > Timms. > > Eliza was buried in grave plot B76. This is indeed the same grave plot > as John was buried in in 1904. John's burial service was read by the > Rev. Huddleston. > > I can't help noticing that the original entry for John does not use the > letter U in any category. Since they were both clearly buried in > consecrated ground it can't possibly mean unconsecrated. Is it possible > that the U is simply a transcription error? I have searched hundreds and > hundreds of Ely cemetery records, and have never come across this U before. > > As I recall, the plots beginning with a B are those to the left of the > path beyond the cemetery chapel. I won't be in Ely for a couple of > weeks, but when I do I will try and see if plot B76 has a headstone. > > > Simon Knott > norfolkchurches.co.uk > suffolkchurches.co.uk > > > > > Geoffrey King wrote: > > I might suggest U means Unconsecrated . > > See the site shown for a discussion > > > > > http://www.british-genealogy.com/forums/showthread.php?12869-Unconsecrated-Ground > > > > Alternatively, U might not mean anything in this example at Ely. > > > > Geoff King > > -------------------------------------------------- > > From: "dawn rayner" <rayner.dm@gmail.com> > > Sent: Monday, February 22, 2010 1:42 AM > > To: <eng-cambridgeshire@rootsweb.com> > > Subject: [ENG-CAMS] DEATH notices & burials of john Bishops > > > > > >> Thanks Joanne for the information on John Powell Bishop's burial at > least > >> that gives me a close approximation of his death date. > >> > >> I wonder if I contacted the Ely Council would they have further > >> information > >> on his burial as the cemetery is still being used. It would be amazing > if > >> he > >> had as headstone. > >> > >> Not sure when Eliza Bishop, his wife died, but after 1901. I would > expect > >> she would be buried with him. Any clues? > >> > >> In answer to the "U" if the cemetery is setout like some here in > Australia > >> it may indeed mean nondenominational. > >> > >> Dawn > >> > >> On Sat, Feb 20, 2010 at 12:39 PM, Joanne King > >> <joanneking321@gmail.com>wrote: > >> > >> > >>> Maybe i was wrong about the "U" > >>> > >>> Would there be a section for all other denominations or religions > >>> > >>> answers on a postcard..... > >>> > >>> On 17 February 2010 13:51, Joanne King <joanneking321@gmail.com> > wrote: > >>> > >>>> City of Ely Cemetery > >>>> > >>>> John Bishop > >>>> Buried 16.1.1904 > >>>> Died at Lynn Road, Ely St Mary > >>>> B76 U (I think this is the plot number) > >>>> Aged 66 Years > >>>> and possibly "U" means unconformist? > >>>> > >>>> > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > ENG-CAMBRIDGESHIRE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' > without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

Dawn I had a look at the Ely Cemetery burial records, and Eliza Bishop was buried in Ely Cemetery on 29th April 1921. She died at Lynn Road in Ely, which may well be the same address as that John had died at, but Lynn Road is a long road. The Minister who read the burial service was a Rev. Timms. Eliza was buried in grave plot B76. This is indeed the same grave plot as John was buried in in 1904. John's burial service was read by the Rev. Huddleston. I can't help noticing that the original entry for John does not use the letter U in any category. Since they were both clearly buried in consecrated ground it can't possibly mean unconsecrated. Is it possible that the U is simply a transcription error? I have searched hundreds and hundreds of Ely cemetery records, and have never come across this U before. As I recall, the plots beginning with a B are those to the left of the path beyond the cemetery chapel. I won't be in Ely for a couple of weeks, but when I do I will try and see if plot B76 has a headstone. Simon Knott norfolkchurches.co.uk suffolkchurches.co.uk Geoffrey King wrote: > I might suggest U means Unconsecrated . > See the site shown for a discussion > > http://www.british-genealogy.com/forums/showthread.php?12869-Unconsecrated-Ground > > Alternatively, U might not mean anything in this example at Ely. > > Geoff King > -------------------------------------------------- > From: "dawn rayner" <rayner.dm@gmail.com> > Sent: Monday, February 22, 2010 1:42 AM > To: <eng-cambridgeshire@rootsweb.com> > Subject: [ENG-CAMS] DEATH notices & burials of john Bishops > > >> Thanks Joanne for the information on John Powell Bishop's burial at least >> that gives me a close approximation of his death date. >> >> I wonder if I contacted the Ely Council would they have further >> information >> on his burial as the cemetery is still being used. It would be amazing if >> he >> had as headstone. >> >> Not sure when Eliza Bishop, his wife died, but after 1901. I would expect >> she would be buried with him. Any clues? >> >> In answer to the "U" if the cemetery is setout like some here in Australia >> it may indeed mean nondenominational. >> >> Dawn >> >> On Sat, Feb 20, 2010 at 12:39 PM, Joanne King >> <joanneking321@gmail.com>wrote: >> >> >>> Maybe i was wrong about the "U" >>> >>> Would there be a section for all other denominations or religions >>> >>> answers on a postcard..... >>> >>> On 17 February 2010 13:51, Joanne King <joanneking321@gmail.com> wrote: >>> >>>> City of Ely Cemetery >>>> >>>> John Bishop >>>> Buried 16.1.1904 >>>> Died at Lynn Road, Ely St Mary >>>> B76 U (I think this is the plot number) >>>> Aged 66 Years >>>> and possibly "U" means unconformist? >>>> >>>> >

Thanks Joanne for the information on John Powell Bishop's burial at least that gives me a close approximation of his death date. I wonder if I contacted the Ely Council would they have further information on his burial as the cemetery is still being used. It would be amazing if he had as headstone. Not sure when Eliza Bishop, his wife died, but after 1901. I would expect she would be buried with him. Any clues? In answer to the "U" if the cemetery is setout like some here in Australia it may indeed mean nondenominational. Dawn On Sat, Feb 20, 2010 at 12:39 PM, Joanne King <joanneking321@gmail.com>wrote: > Maybe i was wrong about the "U" > > Would there be a section for all other denominations or religions > > answers on a postcard..... > > On 17 February 2010 13:51, Joanne King <joanneking321@gmail.com> wrote: > > > > City of Ely Cemetery > > > > John Bishop > > Buried 16.1.1904 > > Died at Lynn Road, Ely St Mary > > B76 U (I think this is the plot number) > > Aged 66 Years > > and possibly "U" means unconformist? > > > > On 17 February 2010 11:42, dawn rayner <rayner.dm@gmail.com> wrote: > >> > >> Thanks Sheila and Maureen for the suggestions. > >> > >> I think I have found John Powell Bishop's death on free BDM as > >> > >> Bishop John Powell 66 yrs Ely 3b 361 March 1/4 1904 > >> > >> so not the 72 year old from the Workhouse. Any suggestions as to where > he is > >> buried? > >> > >> My grans father John Bishop has his death registered in Peterborough > vis. > >> > >> Bishop John 37 yrs Peterborough 3b 129 June 1/4 1904 > >> > >> Are the newspapers of the Coates & Peterborough area index? Does anyone > have > >> access to them? > >> I am in Australia which limits my access to the internet. > >> > >> Dawn > >> > >> > >> > >> On Wed, Feb 17, 2010 at 12:23 PM, Maureen Allen <mha@stroudbridge.co.uk > >wrote: > >> > >> > The John Bishop buried in St Andrew The Less on 28 Dec 1904, was aged > 72 > >> > years and came from the Workhouse. > >> > > >> > -----Original Message----- > >> > From: eng-cambridgeshire-bounces@rootsweb.com > >> > [mailto:eng-cambridgeshire-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of sheila > >> > jackson > >> > Sent: 17 February 2010 00:34 > >> > To: ENG-CAMBRIDGESHIRE@rootsweb.com > >> > Subject: [ENG-CAMS] john Bishops > >> > > >> > Hello Dawn I have looked at the Camdex site and found two John Bishops > 1904 > >> > one was in Cambridge St Andrews the Less and the other was in Ely. I > think > >> > the only way you will solve this is to get the certs. > >> > Sheila > >> > > >> > ------------------------------- > >> > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > >> > ENG-CAMBRIDGESHIRE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' > >> > without > >> > the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > >> > > >> > > >> > ------------------------------- > >> > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > >> > ENG-CAMBRIDGESHIRE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' > >> > without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > >> > > >> > >> ------------------------------- > >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > ENG-CAMBRIDGESHIRE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' > without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > ENG-CAMBRIDGESHIRE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' > without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

I might suggest U means Unconsecrated . See the site shown for a discussion http://www.british-genealogy.com/forums/showthread.php?12869-Unconsecrated-Ground Alternatively, U might not mean anything in this example at Ely. Geoff King -------------------------------------------------- From: "dawn rayner" <rayner.dm@gmail.com> Sent: Monday, February 22, 2010 1:42 AM To: <eng-cambridgeshire@rootsweb.com> Subject: [ENG-CAMS] DEATH notices & burials of john Bishops > Thanks Joanne for the information on John Powell Bishop's burial at least > that gives me a close approximation of his death date. > > I wonder if I contacted the Ely Council would they have further > information > on his burial as the cemetery is still being used. It would be amazing if > he > had as headstone. > > Not sure when Eliza Bishop, his wife died, but after 1901. I would expect > she would be buried with him. Any clues? > > In answer to the "U" if the cemetery is setout like some here in Australia > it may indeed mean nondenominational. > > Dawn > > On Sat, Feb 20, 2010 at 12:39 PM, Joanne King > <joanneking321@gmail.com>wrote: > >> Maybe i was wrong about the "U" >> >> Would there be a section for all other denominations or religions >> >> answers on a postcard..... >> >> On 17 February 2010 13:51, Joanne King <joanneking321@gmail.com> wrote: >> > >> > City of Ely Cemetery >> > >> > John Bishop >> > Buried 16.1.1904 >> > Died at Lynn Road, Ely St Mary >> > B76 U (I think this is the plot number) >> > Aged 66 Years >> > and possibly "U" means unconformist? >> > >> > On 17 February 2010 11:42, dawn rayner <rayner.dm@gmail.com> wrote: >> >> >> >> Thanks Sheila and Maureen for the suggestions. >> >> >> >> I think I have found John Powell Bishop's death on free BDM as >> >> >> >> Bishop John Powell 66 yrs Ely 3b 361 March 1/4 1904 >> >> >> >> so not the 72 year old from the Workhouse. Any suggestions as to where >> he is >> >> buried? >> >> >> >> My grans father John Bishop has his death registered in Peterborough >> vis. >> >> >> >> Bishop John 37 yrs Peterborough 3b 129 June 1/4 1904 >> >> >> >> Are the newspapers of the Coates & Peterborough area index? Does >> >> anyone >> have >> >> access to them? >> >> I am in Australia which limits my access to the internet. >> >> >> >> Dawn >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> On Wed, Feb 17, 2010 at 12:23 PM, Maureen Allen >> >> <mha@stroudbridge.co.uk >> >wrote: >> >> >> >> > The John Bishop buried in St Andrew The Less on 28 Dec 1904, was >> >> > aged >> 72 >> >> > years and came from the Workhouse. >> >> > >> >> > -----Original Message----- >> >> > From: eng-cambridgeshire-bounces@rootsweb.com >> >> > [mailto:eng-cambridgeshire-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of sheila >> >> > jackson >> >> > Sent: 17 February 2010 00:34 >> >> > To: ENG-CAMBRIDGESHIRE@rootsweb.com >> >> > Subject: [ENG-CAMS] john Bishops >> >> > >> >> > Hello Dawn I have looked at the Camdex site and found two John >> >> > Bishops >> 1904 >> >> > one was in Cambridge St Andrews the Less and the other was in Ely. I >> think >> >> > the only way you will solve this is to get the certs. >> >> > Sheila >> >> > >> >> > ------------------------------- >> >> > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> >> > ENG-CAMBRIDGESHIRE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' >> >> > without >> >> > the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >> >> > >> >> > >> >> > ------------------------------- >> >> > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> >> > ENG-CAMBRIDGESHIRE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' >> >> > without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >> >> > >> >> >> >> ------------------------------- >> >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> ENG-CAMBRIDGESHIRE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' >> without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >> > >> >> >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> ENG-CAMBRIDGESHIRE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' >> without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >> > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > ENG-CAMBRIDGESHIRE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' > without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Hi Thanks you so much for all that information. It seems to make a lot of sence. The only question i have now is Was Charlotte and William Married before he died for her to become Charlotte Flowers? And does it say what the realationship is to Charlotte in the 1860 Census? I think i will send for the certificates and just see. It seem funny how Charlotte and Charles sailed on the ship with his future Wife and family. Thanks Again ----- Original Message ----- From: "lfenimore" <lfenimore@columbus.rr.com> To: <eng-cambridgeshire@rootsweb.com> Sent: Friday, February 19, 2010 3:15 PM Subject: Re: [ENG-CAMS] help - Charles Flowers/CHARLES CORNWELL > On the New York Passenger lists there is a large Priest family plus > Charlotte Elizabeth Flowers aged 23 with Charles Flowers aged 7 who > arrived > in NYC 30 Jun 1855 on the Yorktown, sailing from London. The two families > are adjacent on the list. The youngest person in the Priest family is an > infant Rachel. Parents are James and Harriet, he was a farmer. > > By the 1860 census Charlotte Flowers, 28, b Eng ,seems to have married a > Joseph Irwin, 32, b Eng while Charles W. Flowers, aged 12, is in the > household. They were living in Ward 20, NYC. > > By the same 1860 census the Priest family has moved to Perrysburg, OH > where > their name is spelled Prist. James and Harriet [Wyatt, see FreeBMD] are > there along with all their children and Rachel, aged 5. [1851 has this > family in Little Milton, Bucks.] > > The enlistment for Charles W. Flowers in the 21st OH Volunteer Infantry > was > at Findlay , Ohio which is south east of Perrysburg [about a 45 minute > freeway ride today]. Ohio [and most] enlistment records only give age at > time of enlistment; they asked very little information. Exact date of > birth > or death is mostly found in pension applications. The roster for Co. K, > 21st OVI is on Google Books. > > Both the passenger list and census are consistent with Charles W. being > born > in 1848. He said he was 18 at enlistment in 1861. If born in 1845, he > was > only 16 and only 13 if born in 1848. Eighteen was the magic age for > enlistment. He must have been born closer to 1845. > > In 1851 his apparent father Rev. William B. Flowers is unmarried, 21, and > a > student at St. John's College, Cambridge which matches your age of 16 if > Charles was born in 1845 . William was from ?Tonington, Northamptonshire. > He is at school in Brackley in 1841. I see from internet postings he was > from Preston Capes and certainly seems to be the fellow who d. 1855 in > Cornwall as he disappears from clergy lists then. > > IN the 1851 census at Sandhill, Littleport, Cambridgeshire there is a > Hannah > Cornwell 49, mar, b. Littleport, with her grandson CHARLES CORNWELL, 5, b > Littleport, living with her. > Bapts to John & Hannah Cornwell of Littleport include Susan 1823, Harriet > 1821, Charles 1826 and Elizabeth 1827 - no Charlotte but could Charlotte > be > Elizabeth? That would make her 18 when Charles was born. > > There is a matching birth for CHARLES CORNWELL June quarter 1845 at Ely > reg. > dist. which includes Littleport. Vol. 14, p. 53. > > This looks like your Charles W. Flowers was aka Charles Cornwell. This > seems to match information given on the rootschat.com forum. > > I would order the certificate. > > Seems the parents weren't married & they were both very young in 1845. > Since he was born in March 1845, he was probably conceived in the summer > of > 1844 - William B. Flowers would have been on school holidays perhaps and > aged 15 [b. 1829], Charlotte may have been working somewhere and that is > how > they met. Certainly Charlotte and son Charles emigrated in 1855 the year > WBF died in Cornwall. Perhaps a legacy funded the ticket. > > Also the marriage of Charles W. Flowers and Rachel Priest is on the IGI as > 18 Apr 1871 in Wood County, Ohio. Perrysburg, where the Priests settled, > is > in Wood County. > > Interesting. > > Liane > > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > ENG-CAMBRIDGESHIRE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' > without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Ah, so it is! Thanks, Wendy. How silly of me not to notice. But if I had noticed, I would not have prompted such a splendid and generous reply from Ruth, and so every cloud has a silver lining! The new CD looks excellent. Can I just place on record that I think the Cambridgeshire Family History Society does a wonderful job. I regularly count my blessings that the vast majority of my ancestors come from Cambridgeshire - the strand from Kent are much harder work, despite the Medway Council's cityark resource. And as for the Essex lot, I just keep praying that I'll find them back across the border eventually.. :-) Simon Knott norfolkchurches.co.uk suffolkchurches.co.uk Finding CORNELL, CORNWELL, MORTLOCK, REYNOLDS, CARTER, ANABLE, STEARN, PAGE and CROSS in Cambridgeshire Finding KNOTT, WATERS, HARRELL and BOWLES in north-west Kent wendy doyle wrote: > Just to clear up a point on Simon's post about Cambridgeshire Baptism > Index - Shudy Camps is included. The confusion is possibly because Shudy > Camps is indexed - in line with standard practice in Archives - under > Camps, Shudy. > > To view a complete list of what is included in the 6th edition of > indexes - baptisms, marriages & banns, and burials go to > > http://www.cfhs.org.uk/BaptismCDContents.html > > We are currently working on finishing the LAST parish register > transcription for the County > > > Within the next month a complete transcription of every Parish Register > for the Counties of Cambridgeshire & the Isle of Ely - collated with the > Bishop's and Archdeacon's Transcripts - will be available on CDrom > > See our Bookstall pages > > http://www.cfhs.org.uk/Bookstall/index.html > > for details > > The 7th edition of the baptism, marriage & burial indexes, which will > include all Anglican parishes for all dates, will be out in the Autumn. > > We are now working on non-conformist registers.............. > > > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG - www.avg.com > Version: 8.5.435 / Virus Database: 271.1.1/2701 - Release Date: 02/21/10 07:34:00 > >

Just to clear up a point on Simon's post about Cambridgeshire Baptism Index - Shudy Camps is included. The confusion is possibly because Shudy Camps is indexed - in line with standard practice in Archives - under Camps, Shudy. To view a complete list of what is included in the 6th edition of indexes - baptisms, marriages & banns, and burials go to http://www.cfhs.org.uk/BaptismCDContents.html We are currently working on finishing the LAST parish register transcription for the County Within the next month a complete transcription of every Parish Register for the Counties of Cambridgeshire & the Isle of Ely - collated with the Bishop's and Archdeacon's Transcripts - will be available on CDrom See our Bookstall pages http://www.cfhs.org.uk/Bookstall/index.html for details The 7th edition of the baptism, marriage & burial indexes, which will include all Anglican parishes for all dates, will be out in the Autumn. We are now working on non-conformist registers.............. -- Wendy Doyle Projects Co-ordinator Cambridgeshire Family History Society

Maybe i was wrong about the "U" Would there be a section for all other denominations or religions answers on a postcard..... On 17 February 2010 13:51, Joanne King <joanneking321@gmail.com> wrote: > > City of Ely Cemetery > > John Bishop > Buried 16.1.1904 > Died at Lynn Road, Ely St Mary > B76 U (I think this is the plot number) > Aged 66 Years > and possibly "U" means unconformist? > > On 17 February 2010 11:42, dawn rayner <rayner.dm@gmail.com> wrote: >> >> Thanks Sheila and Maureen for the suggestions. >> >> I think I have found John Powell Bishop's death on free BDM as >> >> Bishop John Powell 66 yrs Ely 3b 361   March 1/4    1904 >> >> so not the 72 year old from the Workhouse. Any suggestions as to where he is >> buried? >> >> My grans father John Bishop has his death registered in Peterborough vis. >> >> Bishop John   37 yrs Peterborough 3b 129 June 1/4 1904 >> >> Are the newspapers of the Coates & Peterborough area index? Does anyone have >> access to them? >> I am in Australia which limits my access to the internet. >> >> Dawn >> >> >> >> On Wed, Feb 17, 2010 at 12:23 PM, Maureen Allen <mha@stroudbridge.co.uk>wrote: >> >> > The John Bishop buried in St Andrew The Less on 28 Dec 1904, was aged 72 >> > years and came from the Workhouse. >> > >> > -----Original Message----- >> > From: eng-cambridgeshire-bounces@rootsweb.com >> > [mailto:eng-cambridgeshire-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of sheila >> > jackson >> > Sent: 17 February 2010 00:34 >> > To: ENG-CAMBRIDGESHIRE@rootsweb.com >> > Subject: [ENG-CAMS] john Bishops >> > >> > Hello Dawn I have looked at the Camdex site and found two John Bishops 1904 >> > one was in Cambridge St Andrews the Less and the other was in Ely. I think >> > the only way you will solve this is to get the certs. >> > Sheila >> > >> > ------------------------------- >> > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> > ENG-CAMBRIDGESHIRE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' >> > without >> > the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >> > >> > >> > ------------------------------- >> > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> > ENG-CAMBRIDGESHIRE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' >> > without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >> > >> >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to ENG-CAMBRIDGESHIRE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

Simon I spoke too soon about Mary Alston Parmenter not being in the Linton registers. A few more events to ponder on: *Linton* 25 May 1791 - Mary Allison Pammonter dau of Richard & Sarah born 30 Apr [Richard & Sarah appear in 1841 census in Linton aged 77 and 78, both born in Cambridgeshire] 25 Apr 1762 - baptism of Richard Pammenter son of John & Mary 30 Aug 1762 - burial of Richard Pammont son of John & Mary 4 Dec 1763 - baptism of Richard Pamment son of John & Mary 30 Sep 1750 - marriage of John Pamment & Mary Allistone 16 Oct 1842 - burial of Sarah Pammenter of Linton 75 31 Oct 1843 - burial of Richard Pammenter of Linton 79 Best wishes Ruth On 19 February 2010 14:04, Simon <simon@simonknott.co.uk> wrote: > Ruth - that is absolutely outstanding - thank you so much! I shall spend > the evening working my way through that lot. > > I have a photograph of Mary Ann, taken in the 1930s: > http://www.flickr.com/photos/norfolkodyssey/3798285314/ > > Mary Ann went to work as a serving girl in Duxford and met Robert > Reynolds, a stockman at Duxford Grange Farm. They married in 1864, and > their son Thomas, my great-grandfather, is pictured in this photograph: > http://www.flickr.com/photos/norfolkodyssey/4280886621/ > > Simon > > > > > Ruth Selman wrote: > > Hi Simon > > > > I've found the following parish register transcript entries in the CFHS > > CD-ROMs which appear to relate to your direct line. I wasn't surprised > to > > find that you and I are related along the way - always seems to happen > with > > this particular network of villages! > > > > *Shudy Camps * > > > > 23 Jan 1842 - baptism of Mary Ann Carter dau of John & Rebecca of Shudy > > Camps lab born 13 Aug > > > > 16 May 1840 - marriage of John Carter, (x) under age bac lab of Shudy > Camps > > son of Thomas lab, and Rebecca Lucas, (x) under age sp of Shudy Camps dau > of > > James Suttle lab (entered in the baptismal register by the name of > Rebecca > > Suttle), wits: John Suttle, Elizabeth Carter (x) > > > > 11 Feb 1821 - baptism of Rebecca Suttle dau of James & Mary of Shudy > Camps > > lab > > > > 25 Dec 1820 - marriage of James Suttle (x) bac & Mary Lucas (x) sp botp, > > wits: Isaac Ager (x), Charlotte Free > > [1861 census shows James Suttle born in Withersfield c.1798-99] > > > > 28 Oct 1811 - marriage of Thomas Carter (x) bac & Mary Alston Parmenter > sp > > botp, wits: Margaret Parmenter (x), Ann Carter > > [1851 census for Wimbish Essex shows Thomas born in Castle Camps c. > 1791-2 > > and Mary born in Linton c. 1791-2 - neither appear in the PR transcripts > for > > those parishes] > > > > 10 Apr 1803 - baptism of Mary Lucas dau of William & Alice > > > > 21 Dec 1856 - burial of Thomas Carter of Shudy Camps [crossed through] > > Horseheath 68, died 16 Dec > > > > 11 Jun 1865 - burial of Mary Alston Carter of Castle Camps 75 > > > > 9 Sep 1877 - burial of Mary Suttle of Shudy Camps 74 > > > > 8 Jan 1881 - burial of James Suttle of Linton Union 83 > > > > 24 Jan 1828 - burial of William Lucas of Shudy Camps 67 > > > > 7 Jun 1838 - burial of Alice Lucas of Shudy Camps 72 > > > > > > *Horseheath * > > > > 8 Jul 1821 - baptism of John Carter son of Thomas & Mary lab > > > > > > *Castle Camps* > > > > 2 Jun 1789 - marriage of William Lucas (x) otp bac & Alice Challis (x) sp > > otp, wits: Eliz Richardson (x), Charles Brown > > > > 27 Oct 1765 - baptism of Alice Challis illeg dau of Elizabeth > > > > 1 Oct 1739 - baptism of Elizabeth Challis dau of Wm & Mary [my 8x great > > grandparents] > > > > Hope this helps. > > > > Ruth > > > > > > On 19 February 2010 12:40, Simon <simon@simonknott.co.uk> wrote: > > > > > >> My great-great-grandmother Mary Ann CARTER was born in Shudy Camps in > >> 1841. She lived to a ripe old age, dying in 1939 at the age of 97. > >> > >> On the 1851 census, when she was nine years old, her parents are named > >> as John and Rebecca Carter, both also born in Shudy Camps. John was 31, > >> and Rebecca was 30. The only likely marriage for them on the FreeBMD is > >> in the Linton registration district, which includes Shudy Camps, in > >> 1840, between John CARTER and Rebecca LUCAS. > >> > >> I hastened at once to the Cambridgeshire Baptisms CD to look up John and > >> Rebecca being born and hopefully baptised in about 1820, only to > >> discover that the Parish Records of Shudy Camps are not included. > >> > >> I wonder if anyone with access to the Shudy Camps PRs would kindly check > >> for me to see if John and Rebecca's baptisms are there, and confirm that > >> Rebecca's maiden name was LUCAS. It would be great to know their > >> parents' names. It is probable that they were married in Shudy Camps, so > >> any information about that would also be gratefully received! > >> > >> Many many thanks in advance > >> > >> Simon Knott > >> norfolkchurches.co.uk > >> suffolkchurches.co.uk > >> > >> Finding CORNELL, CORNWELL, MORTLOCK, REYNOLDS, CARTER, ANABLE, STEARN, > >> PAGE and CROSS in Cambridgeshire > >> Finding KNOTT, WATERS, HARRELL and BOWLES in north-west Kent > >> > >> ------------------------------- > >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > >> ENG-CAMBRIDGESHIRE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' > >> without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > >> > >> > > > > ------------------------------- > > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > ENG-CAMBRIDGESHIRE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' > without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > > > > > No virus found in this incoming message. > > Checked by AVG - www.avg.com > > Version: 8.5.435 / Virus Database: 271.1.1/2697 - Release Date: 02/19/10 > 07:34:00 > > > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > ENG-CAMBRIDGESHIRE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' > without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

Ruth - that is absolutely outstanding - thank you so much! I shall spend the evening working my way through that lot. I have a photograph of Mary Ann, taken in the 1930s: http://www.flickr.com/photos/norfolkodyssey/3798285314/ Mary Ann went to work as a serving girl in Duxford and met Robert Reynolds, a stockman at Duxford Grange Farm. They married in 1864, and their son Thomas, my great-grandfather, is pictured in this photograph: http://www.flickr.com/photos/norfolkodyssey/4280886621/ Simon Ruth Selman wrote: > Hi Simon > > I've found the following parish register transcript entries in the CFHS > CD-ROMs which appear to relate to your direct line. I wasn't surprised to > find that you and I are related along the way - always seems to happen with > this particular network of villages! > > *Shudy Camps * > > 23 Jan 1842 - baptism of Mary Ann Carter dau of John & Rebecca of Shudy > Camps lab born 13 Aug > > 16 May 1840 - marriage of John Carter, (x) under age bac lab of Shudy Camps > son of Thomas lab, and Rebecca Lucas, (x) under age sp of Shudy Camps dau of > James Suttle lab (entered in the baptismal register by the name of Rebecca > Suttle), wits: John Suttle, Elizabeth Carter (x) > > 11 Feb 1821 - baptism of Rebecca Suttle dau of James & Mary of Shudy Camps > lab > > 25 Dec 1820 - marriage of James Suttle (x) bac & Mary Lucas (x) sp botp, > wits: Isaac Ager (x), Charlotte Free > [1861 census shows James Suttle born in Withersfield c.1798-99] > > 28 Oct 1811 - marriage of Thomas Carter (x) bac & Mary Alston Parmenter sp > botp, wits: Margaret Parmenter (x), Ann Carter > [1851 census for Wimbish Essex shows Thomas born in Castle Camps c. 1791-2 > and Mary born in Linton c. 1791-2 - neither appear in the PR transcripts for > those parishes] > > 10 Apr 1803 - baptism of Mary Lucas dau of William & Alice > > 21 Dec 1856 - burial of Thomas Carter of Shudy Camps [crossed through] > Horseheath 68, died 16 Dec > > 11 Jun 1865 - burial of Mary Alston Carter of Castle Camps 75 > > 9 Sep 1877 - burial of Mary Suttle of Shudy Camps 74 > > 8 Jan 1881 - burial of James Suttle of Linton Union 83 > > 24 Jan 1828 - burial of William Lucas of Shudy Camps 67 > > 7 Jun 1838 - burial of Alice Lucas of Shudy Camps 72 > > > *Horseheath * > > 8 Jul 1821 - baptism of John Carter son of Thomas & Mary lab > > > *Castle Camps* > > 2 Jun 1789 - marriage of William Lucas (x) otp bac & Alice Challis (x) sp > otp, wits: Eliz Richardson (x), Charles Brown > > 27 Oct 1765 - baptism of Alice Challis illeg dau of Elizabeth > > 1 Oct 1739 - baptism of Elizabeth Challis dau of Wm & Mary [my 8x great > grandparents] > > Hope this helps. > > Ruth > > > On 19 February 2010 12:40, Simon <simon@simonknott.co.uk> wrote: > > >> My great-great-grandmother Mary Ann CARTER was born in Shudy Camps in >> 1841. She lived to a ripe old age, dying in 1939 at the age of 97. >> >> On the 1851 census, when she was nine years old, her parents are named >> as John and Rebecca Carter, both also born in Shudy Camps. John was 31, >> and Rebecca was 30. The only likely marriage for them on the FreeBMD is >> in the Linton registration district, which includes Shudy Camps, in >> 1840, between John CARTER and Rebecca LUCAS. >> >> I hastened at once to the Cambridgeshire Baptisms CD to look up John and >> Rebecca being born and hopefully baptised in about 1820, only to >> discover that the Parish Records of Shudy Camps are not included. >> >> I wonder if anyone with access to the Shudy Camps PRs would kindly check >> for me to see if John and Rebecca's baptisms are there, and confirm that >> Rebecca's maiden name was LUCAS. It would be great to know their >> parents' names. It is probable that they were married in Shudy Camps, so >> any information about that would also be gratefully received! >> >> Many many thanks in advance >> >> Simon Knott >> norfolkchurches.co.uk >> suffolkchurches.co.uk >> >> Finding CORNELL, CORNWELL, MORTLOCK, REYNOLDS, CARTER, ANABLE, STEARN, >> PAGE and CROSS in Cambridgeshire >> Finding KNOTT, WATERS, HARRELL and BOWLES in north-west Kent >> >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> ENG-CAMBRIDGESHIRE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' >> without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >> >> > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to ENG-CAMBRIDGESHIRE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG - www.avg.com > Version: 8.5.435 / Virus Database: 271.1.1/2697 - Release Date: 02/19/10 07:34:00 > >

Hi Simon I've found the following parish register transcript entries in the CFHS CD-ROMs which appear to relate to your direct line. I wasn't surprised to find that you and I are related along the way - always seems to happen with this particular network of villages! *Shudy Camps * 23 Jan 1842 - baptism of Mary Ann Carter dau of John & Rebecca of Shudy Camps lab born 13 Aug 16 May 1840 - marriage of John Carter, (x) under age bac lab of Shudy Camps son of Thomas lab, and Rebecca Lucas, (x) under age sp of Shudy Camps dau of James Suttle lab (entered in the baptismal register by the name of Rebecca Suttle), wits: John Suttle, Elizabeth Carter (x) 11 Feb 1821 - baptism of Rebecca Suttle dau of James & Mary of Shudy Camps lab 25 Dec 1820 - marriage of James Suttle (x) bac & Mary Lucas (x) sp botp, wits: Isaac Ager (x), Charlotte Free [1861 census shows James Suttle born in Withersfield c.1798-99] 28 Oct 1811 - marriage of Thomas Carter (x) bac & Mary Alston Parmenter sp botp, wits: Margaret Parmenter (x), Ann Carter [1851 census for Wimbish Essex shows Thomas born in Castle Camps c. 1791-2 and Mary born in Linton c. 1791-2 - neither appear in the PR transcripts for those parishes] 10 Apr 1803 - baptism of Mary Lucas dau of William & Alice 21 Dec 1856 - burial of Thomas Carter of Shudy Camps [crossed through] Horseheath 68, died 16 Dec 11 Jun 1865 - burial of Mary Alston Carter of Castle Camps 75 9 Sep 1877 - burial of Mary Suttle of Shudy Camps 74 8 Jan 1881 - burial of James Suttle of Linton Union 83 24 Jan 1828 - burial of William Lucas of Shudy Camps 67 7 Jun 1838 - burial of Alice Lucas of Shudy Camps 72 *Horseheath * 8 Jul 1821 - baptism of John Carter son of Thomas & Mary lab *Castle Camps* 2 Jun 1789 - marriage of William Lucas (x) otp bac & Alice Challis (x) sp otp, wits: Eliz Richardson (x), Charles Brown 27 Oct 1765 - baptism of Alice Challis illeg dau of Elizabeth 1 Oct 1739 - baptism of Elizabeth Challis dau of Wm & Mary [my 8x great grandparents] Hope this helps. Ruth On 19 February 2010 12:40, Simon <simon@simonknott.co.uk> wrote: > My great-great-grandmother Mary Ann CARTER was born in Shudy Camps in > 1841. She lived to a ripe old age, dying in 1939 at the age of 97. > > On the 1851 census, when she was nine years old, her parents are named > as John and Rebecca Carter, both also born in Shudy Camps. John was 31, > and Rebecca was 30. The only likely marriage for them on the FreeBMD is > in the Linton registration district, which includes Shudy Camps, in > 1840, between John CARTER and Rebecca LUCAS. > > I hastened at once to the Cambridgeshire Baptisms CD to look up John and > Rebecca being born and hopefully baptised in about 1820, only to > discover that the Parish Records of Shudy Camps are not included. > > I wonder if anyone with access to the Shudy Camps PRs would kindly check > for me to see if John and Rebecca's baptisms are there, and confirm that > Rebecca's maiden name was LUCAS. It would be great to know their > parents' names. It is probable that they were married in Shudy Camps, so > any information about that would also be gratefully received! > > Many many thanks in advance > > Simon Knott > norfolkchurches.co.uk > suffolkchurches.co.uk > > Finding CORNELL, CORNWELL, MORTLOCK, REYNOLDS, CARTER, ANABLE, STEARN, > PAGE and CROSS in Cambridgeshire > Finding KNOTT, WATERS, HARRELL and BOWLES in north-west Kent > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > ENG-CAMBRIDGESHIRE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' > without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

My great-great-grandmother Mary Ann CARTER was born in Shudy Camps in 1841. She lived to a ripe old age, dying in 1939 at the age of 97. On the 1851 census, when she was nine years old, her parents are named as John and Rebecca Carter, both also born in Shudy Camps. John was 31, and Rebecca was 30. The only likely marriage for them on the FreeBMD is in the Linton registration district, which includes Shudy Camps, in 1840, between John CARTER and Rebecca LUCAS. I hastened at once to the Cambridgeshire Baptisms CD to look up John and Rebecca being born and hopefully baptised in about 1820, only to discover that the Parish Records of Shudy Camps are not included. I wonder if anyone with access to the Shudy Camps PRs would kindly check for me to see if John and Rebecca's baptisms are there, and confirm that Rebecca's maiden name was LUCAS. It would be great to know their parents' names. It is probable that they were married in Shudy Camps, so any information about that would also be gratefully received! Many many thanks in advance Simon Knott norfolkchurches.co.uk suffolkchurches.co.uk Finding CORNELL, CORNWELL, MORTLOCK, REYNOLDS, CARTER, ANABLE, STEARN, PAGE and CROSS in Cambridgeshire Finding KNOTT, WATERS, HARRELL and BOWLES in north-west Kent

Hello David, I have found a Charles Flowers born to a John and Ann at Bungay Suffolk bp 1836 or another 1839 Chesterfield Derbyshire . I know the dates are out but it might lead somewhere Hope these helps, Suffolk is on the border with Cambridgeshire. Sheila

Hi I contacted the Littleport Society a couple of times but never really got a reply from him. The couple i did get was to say he had been on holiday and come home to so many emails etc. I have been trying to find the right place to get Charles and Rachel marriage certificate to see if that has some answers but i am not sure how i go about that. As far as getting the death certificate i figured that if he diappeared from the clergy list then he must have left the contry. And with the age of William it doesnt really tie in either. Jacquie ----- Original Message ----- From: "David" <david11000carca@yahoo.fr> To: <eng-cambridgeshire@rootsweb.com> Sent: Thursday, February 18, 2010 10:26 PM Subject: [ENG-CAMS] Re : help I and others did a lot of work on this a year ago at http://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php/topic,367587.0.html What did the Littleport Society have to say? Did you purchase the death certificate of the William Benedick Flowers in Cornwall? Did you follow up on the Charles Cornwall born at the right time in Littleort? In the early days of civil registration many births weren't registered so it might be the case that there isn't a birth certificate David --- En date de : Jeu 18.2.10, jacquie cook <jacquie.cook@xtra.co.nz> a écrit : > De: jacquie cook <jacquie.cook@xtra.co.nz> > Objet: [ENG-CAMS] help > À: ENG-CAMBRIDGESHIRE@rootsweb.com > Date: Jeudi 18 février 2010, 2h53 > Hi. I have been hitting a brick wall > with this problem for years so i > have decided to explore all known facts. > My problem is finding the birth of my GG Grandfather. > Charles William Flowers i have done a search for him > and found a website on civil war > soldiers and it has him born on March 8, 1845 at > Littleport, Cambridgeshire,England but i can't find him.. > > On his death certificate it has Rev William Benedict > Flowers as his father but i have traced his family and > going by the dates he would have been 16 then becames > a anglican minister and his Mother Charlotte Cornwall. > Charles Fought in the Civil War for Ohio U.S.A and > married rachel Priest they then came to New Zealand. I > am wanting to get his birth certificate but because i don't > no where he was born it is a little hard. > Also another thing i find interesting is that Charles and > Rachel had a son called William Benedict so there must be > some tie somewhere. > Are you able to help me? > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > ENG-CAMBRIDGESHIRE-request@rootsweb.com > with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the > subject and the body of the message > ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to ENG-CAMBRIDGESHIRE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

On the New York Passenger lists there is a large Priest family plus Charlotte Elizabeth Flowers aged 23 with Charles Flowers aged 7 who arrived in NYC 30 Jun 1855 on the Yorktown, sailing from London. The two families are adjacent on the list. The youngest person in the Priest family is an infant Rachel. Parents are James and Harriet, he was a farmer. By the 1860 census Charlotte Flowers, 28, b Eng ,seems to have married a Joseph Irwin, 32, b Eng while Charles W. Flowers, aged 12, is in the household. They were living in Ward 20, NYC. By the same 1860 census the Priest family has moved to Perrysburg, OH where their name is spelled Prist. James and Harriet [Wyatt, see FreeBMD] are there along with all their children and Rachel, aged 5. [1851 has this family in Little Milton, Bucks.] The enlistment for Charles W. Flowers in the 21st OH Volunteer Infantry was at Findlay , Ohio which is south east of Perrysburg [about a 45 minute freeway ride today]. Ohio [and most] enlistment records only give age at time of enlistment; they asked very little information. Exact date of birth or death is mostly found in pension applications. The roster for Co. K, 21st OVI is on Google Books. Both the passenger list and census are consistent with Charles W. being born in 1848. He said he was 18 at enlistment in 1861. If born in 1845, he was only 16 and only 13 if born in 1848. Eighteen was the magic age for enlistment. He must have been born closer to 1845. In 1851 his apparent father Rev. William B. Flowers is unmarried, 21, and a student at St. John's College, Cambridge which matches your age of 16 if Charles was born in 1845 . William was from ?Tonington, Northamptonshire. He is at school in Brackley in 1841. I see from internet postings he was from Preston Capes and certainly seems to be the fellow who d. 1855 in Cornwall as he disappears from clergy lists then. IN the 1851 census at Sandhill, Littleport, Cambridgeshire there is a Hannah Cornwell 49, mar, b. Littleport, with her grandson CHARLES CORNWELL, 5, b Littleport, living with her. Bapts to John & Hannah Cornwell of Littleport include Susan 1823, Harriet 1821, Charles 1826 and Elizabeth 1827 - no Charlotte but could Charlotte be Elizabeth? That would make her 18 when Charles was born. There is a matching birth for CHARLES CORNWELL June quarter 1845 at Ely reg. dist. which includes Littleport. Vol. 14, p. 53. This looks like your Charles W. Flowers was aka Charles Cornwell. This seems to match information given on the rootschat.com forum. I would order the certificate. Seems the parents weren't married & they were both very young in 1845. Since he was born in March 1845, he was probably conceived in the summer of 1844 - William B. Flowers would have been on school holidays perhaps and aged 15 [b. 1829], Charlotte may have been working somewhere and that is how they met. Certainly Charlotte and son Charles emigrated in 1855 the year WBF died in Cornwall. Perhaps a legacy funded the ticket. Also the marriage of Charles W. Flowers and Rachel Priest is on the IGI as 18 Apr 1871 in Wood County, Ohio. Perrysburg, where the Priests settled, is in Wood County. Interesting. Liane

Hi. I have been hitting a brick wall with this problem for years so i have decided to explore all known facts. My problem is finding the birth of my GG Grandfather. Charles William Flowers i have done a search for him and found a website on civil war soldiers and it has him born on March 8, 1845 at Littleport, Cambridgeshire,England but i can't find him.. On his death certificate it has Rev William Benedict Flowers as his father but i have traced his family and going by the dates he would have been 16 then becames a anglican minister and his Mother Charlotte Cornwall. Charles Fought in the Civil War for Ohio U.S.A and married rachel Priest they then came to New Zealand. I am wanting to get his birth certificate but because i don't no where he was born it is a little hard. Also another thing i find interesting is that Charles and Rachel had a son called William Benedict so there must be some tie somewhere. Are you able to help me?

I and others did a lot of work on this a year ago at http://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php/topic,367587.0.html What did the Littleport Society have to say? Did you purchase the death certificate of the William Benedick Flowers in Cornwall? Did you follow up on the Charles Cornwall born at the right time in Littleort? In the early days of civil registration many births weren't registered so it might be the case that there isn't a birth certificate David --- En date de : Jeu 18.2.10, jacquie cook <jacquie.cook@xtra.co.nz> a écrit : > De: jacquie cook <jacquie.cook@xtra.co.nz> > Objet: [ENG-CAMS] help > À: ENG-CAMBRIDGESHIRE@rootsweb.com > Date: Jeudi 18 février 2010, 2h53 > Hi. I have been hitting a brick wall > with this problem for years so i > have decided to explore all known facts. > My problem is finding the birth of my GG Grandfather. > Charles William  Flowers i have done a search for him > and found a website on civil war > soldiers and it has him born on March 8, 1845 at > Littleport, Cambridgeshire,England but i can't find him.. > > On his death certificate  it has Rev William Benedict > Flowers as his father but i have traced his  family and > going by the dates he would have been 16 then becames > a  anglican minister and his Mother Charlotte Cornwall. > Charles Fought in  the Civil War for Ohio U.S.A and > married rachel Priest they then came to  New Zealand. I > am wanting to get his birth certificate but because i don't > no where he was born it is a little hard. > Also another thing i find interesting is that Charles and > Rachel had a son called William Benedict so there must be > some tie somewhere. > Are you able to help me? > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to ENG-CAMBRIDGESHIRE-request@rootsweb.com > with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the > subject and the body of the message >