Hi Liane, Hi Paula, Hi John, Hi List Below we see that Mahew Henry Crofts was a farmer of Whittlesea Would this now be the Methodist Minister of Ransey in 1852 It does look to be - where is Sophia Sangster Crofts in 1851 that might help is it possible she is under the name Scrofts?? Found a strange one lke that the other day where the middle initial was transcribed and first letter of surname. Thankyou you all so much Regards Jenny > From: lfenimore@columbus.rr.com > To: eng-cambridgeshire@rootsweb.com > Date: Wed, 3 Mar 2010 07:41:48 -0500 > Subject: Re: [ENG-CAMS] Chaplin/Crofts Help Please > > Sophia Sangster Crofts was bap 3 Aug 1833 at Whittlesey St. Marys to Mathew > Henry and Mary Ann of Delph Street, Whittlesea, farmer. > > If you need more of the family, please let me know. > > Liane > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to ENG-CAMBRIDGESHIRE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message _________________________________________________________________ Looking for a new home? With all the latest places, searching has never been easier. http://clk.atdmt.com/NMN/go/157631292/direct/01/

Hi John, Tks so much for reply info and for trying to find more Regards Jenny > From: john.orchard4@googlemail.com > To: eng-cambridgeshire@rootsweb.com > Date: Wed, 3 Mar 2010 10:08:48 +0000 > Subject: Re: [ENG-CAMS] Chaplin/Crofts Help Please > > Hi Jenny > > There isn't - it is! The remains of the church have been dedicated as a war > memorial to the merchant marine. > > Good luck with finding the wife - the nearest I got was a Sarah Croft living > with her family in Whittlesey, Cambridgeshire; I did not send it because 1) > it is Croft rather than Crofts, 2) Sarah rather than Sophia Sangster and 3) > because Sarah was born in 1835 not 1833. > > Regards > John > > -----Original Message----- > From: eng-cambridgeshire-bounces@rootsweb.com > [mailto:eng-cambridgeshire-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Jenny x > Sent: 03 March 2010 03:26 > To: eng-cambridgeshire@rootsweb.com > Subject: Re: [ENG-CAMS] Chaplin/Crofts Help Please > > > Hi John, > > Thanks for this and for having a look for me. Did not know was a war > memorial where the Church of Holy Rood stood. > > Regards Jenny > > > From: john.orchard4@googlemail.com > > To: eng-cambridgeshire@rootsweb.com > > Date: Wed, 3 Mar 2010 03:10:26 +0000 > > Subject: Re: [ENG-CAMS] Chaplin/Crofts Help Please > > > > Hi Jenny > > > > This does not answer your question, but... > > There is a William Chaplin who was born in Clifton in 1823 and living at > the > > time of the 1851 census with his uncle Samuel in Southampton. The uncle, a > > tea dealer, was also a native of Clifton (which was then close to Bristol, > > and today completely absorbed within the city). His address then was 121 > > High Street which was close to the parish church of Holy Rood which was > > seriously damaged during the Blitz and is now a permanent war memorial for > > the Merchant Navy - appropriate for Southampton. > > > > Regards > > John > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: eng-cambridgeshire-bounces@rootsweb.com > > [mailto:eng-cambridgeshire-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Jenny x > > Sent: 03 March 2010 01:19 > > To: eng-cambridgeshire@rootsweb.com > > Subject: [ENG-CAMS] Chaplin/Crofts Help Please > > > > > > Hi, > > > > I am trying to find out the parents for one William CHAPLIN born c 1823 > > Bristol and Sophia Sangster Crofts b 1833 Whittlesee, Cambridge married at > > Cambridge Sept qtr in 1854. I do not have access nearby to a library and > > wonder if Sophia is on the 1851 census in Cambridge with her parents > > believed to be MathewHenry Crofts and Mary Ann. > > > > > > > > Any help greatly appreciated > > > > Regards Jenny > > _________________________________________________________________ > > Link all your email accounts and social updates with Hotmail. Find out > now. > > http://windowslive.ninemsn.com.au/oneinbox?ocid=T162MSN05A0710G > > > > ------------------------------- > > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > > ENG-CAMBRIDGESHIRE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' > without > > the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > > > > ------------------------------- > > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > ENG-CAMBRIDGESHIRE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without > the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > _________________________________________________________________ > Get personal with Windows. Download a free gift for your PC. > http://experience.windows.com > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > ENG-CAMBRIDGESHIRE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without > the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to ENG-CAMBRIDGESHIRE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message _________________________________________________________________ Link all your email accounts and social updates with Hotmail. Find out now. http://windowslive.ninemsn.com.au/oneinbox?ocid=T162MSN05A0710G

Hi Paula, Thanks ever so much for all of this - a very interesting story emerging here, well done. This certainly looks to be the correct family. Sophia was living with a relative or staying in 1841 (probably an Uncle) I wonder where Sophia was in 1851 3 years before she married william Chaplin in Cambridge wish I could find this marriage on ancestry. I def think is worth following up what you found below re a Will. Tks again Regards Jenny > Date: Wed, 3 Mar 2010 10:28:45 +0000 > From: psycholemon@gmail.com > To: eng-cambridgeshire@rootsweb.com > Subject: Re: [ENG-CAMS] Chaplin/Crofts Help Please > > From the CFHS site: > St Mary's Whittlesey - Baptisms > 1830 Henry S CROFT of Delph Street s of Matthew H and Mary A > 1833 Sophia S CROFT of Delph Street d of Matthew H and Mary A > > Henry Southwell CROFTS was born in Whittlesey ~1830 and looking at > various census returns he spent much of the time after he retired > living in Southampton. He married for the second time in 1881 in London > and gave Matthew Henry CROFTS - Baptist Minister (deceased) as his father > > I searched for Matthew Henry CROFTS and baptist on Google and found a > reference to him being a Baptist Minister in Ramsey, Hunts in 1841/1842 > so went looking there for him. > > 1841 census: > Ramsey, Hunts > Matthew CROFTS 40 Dissenting minister Y > Mary CROFTS 30 Y > Charlotte CROFTS 15 Y > Henry CROFTS 11 Y > Alice CHAPMAN 30 FS N > (FS means Female servant) > > Also in 1841: > High Church Street, Whittlesey, Cambs > John CROFTS 35 Ind N > Mary Ann CROFTS 35 Y > Sophia CROFTS 8 Y > Later census returns have a John Southwell CROFTS m to Mary Ann living > in Whittlesey with bithplace Elton, Hunts. > > and in 1851: > Great White, Ramsey, Hunts > Matthew Henry CROFTS Head Mar 50 Dissenting minister Baptist Chapel > Ramsey b Elton, Hunts > Mary Ann CROFTS Wife Mar 48 b Whittlesea, Camb > Ann WHITNEY Serv U 32 General servant b Ramsey, Hunts > > Baptisms: > children of Matthew Henry & Mary Ann CROFTS - baptised at Tansor, Northants > 13 Sep 1824 Mary Ann Hodgkin CROFTS > 24 Jun 1826 Charlotte Elizabeth CROFTS > > Going back one generation: > children of Henry & Alice CROFTS - baptised at Elton, Hunts > 21 Jun 1797 Sophia CROFTS > 25 Sep 1799 Alice Elizabeth CROFTS > 30 Jul 1801 Matthew Henry CROFTS > 4 Aug 1802 John Southwell CROFTS > 12 Sep 1804 Charlotte CROFTS > > > On a side note.... > ....someone has been asking for help to read an 1826 will where one > bequest was £150 to 'my granddaughter Mary Ann wife of Matthew Henry > CROFTS of Tansor in the county of Northamptonshire, farmer" Might be > worth chasing as this was only posted in Oct 2009 > http://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php?PHPSESSID=upge7g0lc9da1apgvnvcsbrje3&topic=411344.0 > Apologies if this is your posting :) > > Paula > > Paula > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to ENG-CAMBRIDGESHIRE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message _________________________________________________________________ Looking for a new home? With all the latest places, searching has never been easier. http://clk.atdmt.com/NMN/go/157631292/direct/01/

>>Going back one generation: children of Henry & Alice CROFTS - baptised at Elton, Hunts 21 Jun 1797 Sophia CROFTS 25 Sep 1799 Alice Elizabeth CROFTS *30 Jul 1801 Matthew Henry CROFTS *4 Aug 1802 John Southwell CROFTS 12 Sep 1804 Charlotte CROFTS Marriages for both men at Whittlesey St. Mary: Matthew Henry Crofts, bac, of Tansor, NTH and Mary Ann Aveling, sp, a minor, otp by lic with consent of minor's mother. Witn: Thomas Aveling, Sophia Crofts. 13 Jun 1823. John Southwell Crofts, bac of Barnwell Mills, NTH, and Mary Ann Binfield, sp, otp by lic. Witn. John Bellars, Mary Binfield. 2 Apr 1828. >>Henry Southwell CROFTS was born in Whittlesey ~1830 Henry Southwell Croft bap 30 Jul 1830 to Matthew Henry and Mary Anne of Delph St., Whittlesea, farmer. In addition to Google, try GoogleBooks - Mathew Henry Crofts shows up there. Liane

Hi John, Thanks for this and for having a look for me. Did not know was a war memorial where the Church of Holy Rood stood. Regards Jenny > From: john.orchard4@googlemail.com > To: eng-cambridgeshire@rootsweb.com > Date: Wed, 3 Mar 2010 03:10:26 +0000 > Subject: Re: [ENG-CAMS] Chaplin/Crofts Help Please > > Hi Jenny > > This does not answer your question, but... > There is a William Chaplin who was born in Clifton in 1823 and living at the > time of the 1851 census with his uncle Samuel in Southampton. The uncle, a > tea dealer, was also a native of Clifton (which was then close to Bristol, > and today completely absorbed within the city). His address then was 121 > High Street which was close to the parish church of Holy Rood which was > seriously damaged during the Blitz and is now a permanent war memorial for > the Merchant Navy - appropriate for Southampton. > > Regards > John > > -----Original Message----- > From: eng-cambridgeshire-bounces@rootsweb.com > [mailto:eng-cambridgeshire-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Jenny x > Sent: 03 March 2010 01:19 > To: eng-cambridgeshire@rootsweb.com > Subject: [ENG-CAMS] Chaplin/Crofts Help Please > > > Hi, > > I am trying to find out the parents for one William CHAPLIN born c 1823 > Bristol and Sophia Sangster Crofts b 1833 Whittlesee, Cambridge married at > Cambridge Sept qtr in 1854. I do not have access nearby to a library and > wonder if Sophia is on the 1851 census in Cambridge with her parents > believed to be MathewHenry Crofts and Mary Ann. > > > > Any help greatly appreciated > > Regards Jenny > _________________________________________________________________ > Link all your email accounts and social updates with Hotmail. Find out now. > http://windowslive.ninemsn.com.au/oneinbox?ocid=T162MSN05A0710G > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > ENG-CAMBRIDGESHIRE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without > the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to ENG-CAMBRIDGESHIRE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message _________________________________________________________________ Get personal with Windows. Download a free gift for your PC. http://experience.windows.com

Hi Sue & Listers ! Have you tried some alternative spellings of his surname ? What about WHALE ? - or WHALLEY ? - or WALEY ? - or WAILEY ? All sorts of strange things happen to surnames when they are misheard, maybe due to a regional accent ! - especially if the Registrar was not born locally ? And if there is a 'Soundex' option on the search it may be worth turning that on ? Good Hunting ! Roger. -------------------- On 3 Mar 2010, at 12:02, SUZANNE HILL wrote: > Joshua WHALEY born c 1811 in Elm (s/o John WHALEY & Mary LEPLA) > married Mary Ann Holtham in 1832 and had six children. I found him in > the 1841 Elm census, but by 1851 his wife Mary Ann is listed as head > of household. I think her condition is listed as "W" widowed > although it > is hard to read. > > I am hitting a brick wall as far as finding Joshua WHALEY's death. > His > last child was born Oct 1842. I have tried searching the BMD using > only > the last name, using only his first name & even searching for Joshua > WHALEY with no county or district restrictions. No luck though. > > Any help at this point would be much appreciated. > > Sue, USA > >

Hi, I am trying to find out the parents for one William CHAPLIN born c 1823 Bristol and Sophia Sangster Crofts b 1833 Whittlesee, Cambridge married at Cambridge Sept qtr in 1854. I do not have access nearby to a library and wonder if Sophia is on the 1851 census in Cambridge with her parents believed to be MathewHenry Crofts and Mary Ann. Any help greatly appreciated Regards Jenny _________________________________________________________________ Link all your email accounts and social updates with Hotmail. Find out now. http://windowslive.ninemsn.com.au/oneinbox?ocid=T162MSN05A0710G

From the CFHS site: St Mary's Whittlesey - Baptisms 1830 Henry S CROFT of Delph Street s of Matthew H and Mary A 1833 Sophia S CROFT of Delph Street d of Matthew H and Mary A Henry Southwell CROFTS was born in Whittlesey ~1830 and looking at various census returns he spent much of the time after he retired living in Southampton. He married for the second time in 1881 in London and gave Matthew Henry CROFTS - Baptist Minister (deceased) as his father I searched for Matthew Henry CROFTS and baptist on Google and found a reference to him being a Baptist Minister in Ramsey, Hunts in 1841/1842 so went looking there for him. 1841 census: Ramsey, Hunts Matthew CROFTS 40 Dissenting minister Y Mary CROFTS 30 Y Charlotte CROFTS 15 Y Henry CROFTS 11 Y Alice CHAPMAN 30 FS N (FS means Female servant) Also in 1841: High Church Street, Whittlesey, Cambs John CROFTS 35 Ind N Mary Ann CROFTS 35 Y Sophia CROFTS 8 Y Later census returns have a John Southwell CROFTS m to Mary Ann living in Whittlesey with bithplace Elton, Hunts. and in 1851: Great White, Ramsey, Hunts Matthew Henry CROFTS Head Mar 50 Dissenting minister Baptist Chapel Ramsey b Elton, Hunts Mary Ann CROFTS Wife Mar 48 b Whittlesea, Camb Ann WHITNEY Serv U 32 General servant b Ramsey, Hunts Baptisms: children of Matthew Henry & Mary Ann CROFTS - baptised at Tansor, Northants 13 Sep 1824 Mary Ann Hodgkin CROFTS 24 Jun 1826 Charlotte Elizabeth CROFTS Going back one generation: children of Henry & Alice CROFTS - baptised at Elton, Hunts 21 Jun 1797 Sophia CROFTS 25 Sep 1799 Alice Elizabeth CROFTS 30 Jul 1801 Matthew Henry CROFTS 4 Aug 1802 John Southwell CROFTS 12 Sep 1804 Charlotte CROFTS On a side note.... ....someone has been asking for help to read an 1826 will where one bequest was £150 to 'my granddaughter Mary Ann wife of Matthew Henry CROFTS of Tansor in the county of Northamptonshire, farmer" Might be worth chasing as this was only posted in Oct 2009 http://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php?PHPSESSID=upge7g0lc9da1apgvnvcsbrje3&topic=411344.0 Apologies if this is your posting :) Paula Paula

Hi Jenny There isn't - it is! The remains of the church have been dedicated as a war memorial to the merchant marine. Good luck with finding the wife - the nearest I got was a Sarah Croft living with her family in Whittlesey, Cambridgeshire; I did not send it because 1) it is Croft rather than Crofts, 2) Sarah rather than Sophia Sangster and 3) because Sarah was born in 1835 not 1833. Regards John -----Original Message----- From: eng-cambridgeshire-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:eng-cambridgeshire-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Jenny x Sent: 03 March 2010 03:26 To: eng-cambridgeshire@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [ENG-CAMS] Chaplin/Crofts Help Please Hi John, Thanks for this and for having a look for me. Did not know was a war memorial where the Church of Holy Rood stood. Regards Jenny > From: john.orchard4@googlemail.com > To: eng-cambridgeshire@rootsweb.com > Date: Wed, 3 Mar 2010 03:10:26 +0000 > Subject: Re: [ENG-CAMS] Chaplin/Crofts Help Please > > Hi Jenny > > This does not answer your question, but... > There is a William Chaplin who was born in Clifton in 1823 and living at the > time of the 1851 census with his uncle Samuel in Southampton. The uncle, a > tea dealer, was also a native of Clifton (which was then close to Bristol, > and today completely absorbed within the city). His address then was 121 > High Street which was close to the parish church of Holy Rood which was > seriously damaged during the Blitz and is now a permanent war memorial for > the Merchant Navy - appropriate for Southampton. > > Regards > John > > -----Original Message----- > From: eng-cambridgeshire-bounces@rootsweb.com > [mailto:eng-cambridgeshire-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Jenny x > Sent: 03 March 2010 01:19 > To: eng-cambridgeshire@rootsweb.com > Subject: [ENG-CAMS] Chaplin/Crofts Help Please > > > Hi, > > I am trying to find out the parents for one William CHAPLIN born c 1823 > Bristol and Sophia Sangster Crofts b 1833 Whittlesee, Cambridge married at > Cambridge Sept qtr in 1854. I do not have access nearby to a library and > wonder if Sophia is on the 1851 census in Cambridge with her parents > believed to be MathewHenry Crofts and Mary Ann. > > > > Any help greatly appreciated > > Regards Jenny > _________________________________________________________________ > Link all your email accounts and social updates with Hotmail. Find out now. > http://windowslive.ninemsn.com.au/oneinbox?ocid=T162MSN05A0710G > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > ENG-CAMBRIDGESHIRE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without > the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to ENG-CAMBRIDGESHIRE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message _________________________________________________________________ Get personal with Windows. Download a free gift for your PC. http://experience.windows.com ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to ENG-CAMBRIDGESHIRE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Sophia Sangster Crofts was bap 3 Aug 1833 at Whittlesey St. Marys to Mathew Henry and Mary Ann of Delph Street, Whittlesea, farmer. If you need more of the family, please let me know. Liane

Joshua WHALEY born c 1811 in Elm (s/o John WHALEY & Mary LEPLA) married Mary Ann Holtham in 1832 and had six children. I found him in the 1841 Elm census, but by 1851 his wife Mary Ann is listed as head of household. I think her condition is listed as "W" widowed although it is hard to read. I am hitting a brick wall as far as finding Joshua WHALEY's death. His last child was born Oct 1842. I have tried searching the BMD using only the last name, using only his first name & even searching for Joshua WHALEY with no county or district restrictions. No luck though. Any help at this point would be much appreciated. Sue, USA

Hi Jenny This does not answer your question, but... There is a William Chaplin who was born in Clifton in 1823 and living at the time of the 1851 census with his uncle Samuel in Southampton. The uncle, a tea dealer, was also a native of Clifton (which was then close to Bristol, and today completely absorbed within the city). His address then was 121 High Street which was close to the parish church of Holy Rood which was seriously damaged during the Blitz and is now a permanent war memorial for the Merchant Navy - appropriate for Southampton. Regards John -----Original Message----- From: eng-cambridgeshire-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:eng-cambridgeshire-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Jenny x Sent: 03 March 2010 01:19 To: eng-cambridgeshire@rootsweb.com Subject: [ENG-CAMS] Chaplin/Crofts Help Please Hi, I am trying to find out the parents for one William CHAPLIN born c 1823 Bristol and Sophia Sangster Crofts b 1833 Whittlesee, Cambridge married at Cambridge Sept qtr in 1854. I do not have access nearby to a library and wonder if Sophia is on the 1851 census in Cambridge with her parents believed to be MathewHenry Crofts and Mary Ann. Any help greatly appreciated Regards Jenny _________________________________________________________________ Link all your email accounts and social updates with Hotmail. Find out now. http://windowslive.ninemsn.com.au/oneinbox?ocid=T162MSN05A0710G ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to ENG-CAMBRIDGESHIRE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Hi Dave thanks for that. I thought it might be the case, since, although St Peter's is located within the former Holy Trinity parish, the donor of the church was a member of the Cathedral chapter attached to St Mary's parish rather than to Holy Trinity parish. I suspect that the idea was to stop the riff-raff from the Waterside baptising their babies in the Cathedral! My father was baptised at St Peter's in May 1935. It would be interesting to know what happened to the pre-1936 register. Perhaps it is still in the coal hole! Simon Dave Edwards wrote: > Simon, > > The new CFHS CD/PR/96 for Ely St Mary also includes the Ely St Peter baps > 1936-1950. > > The only register known to exist for St Peters is the Baps 1936-1985, which > is now at the Cambridge Records Office. > > Regards > > Dave > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Bob Burns" <pandb@personainternet.com> > To: <eng-cambridgeshire@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Saturday, February 27, 2010 12:23 AM > Subject: Re: [ENG-CAMS] Ely Holy Trinity and St Peter's church > > > >> Simon >> >> The introduction to the CFHS CD/PR/009 for Holy Trinity Ely makes no >> reference to St. Peters, so it's not possible to say from this source. >> Hopefully an official of the CFHS will have more background to help you >> >> Bob Burns >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: eng-cambridgeshire-bounces@rootsweb.com >> [mailto:eng-cambridgeshire-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Simon >> Sent: Friday, February 26, 2010 11:43 AM >> To: eng-cambridgeshire@rootsweb.com >> Subject: [ENG-CAMS] Ely Holy Trinity and St Peter's church >> >> Can someone tell me if the CD-rom of Ely Holy Trinity 1559-1938 includes >> the records of St Peter's church? >> >> St Peter's is in Broad Street, within Holy Trinity parish. It was opened >> in 1889, but I believe that it had the status of a donative church >> rather than a chapel of ease. Being a donative means that it might have >> been attached to St Mary's parish rather than Holy Trinity. When I was >> talking to the churchwarden a few months back, he was not really sure >> where the parish records were - we looked through all the drawers in the >> vestry, but we couldn't find them. Then he though they were probably in >> the 'crypt' - a coal hole under the floor of the church currently used >> for storing junk. St Peter's was,and is, licenced for baptisms, but not >> for marriages. Up until 1938, when Holy Trinity and St Mary's parishes >> were merged, several generations of my family were baptised in St >> Peter's but married in the Lady Chapel of the cathedral. I'd be keen to >> see chapter and verse on both events. >> >> Simon >> norfolkchurches.co.uk >> suffolkchurches.co.uk >> >> >> >> >> >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> ENG-CAMBRIDGESHIRE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' >> without >> the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >> >> >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> ENG-CAMBRIDGESHIRE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' >> without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >> >> > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to ENG-CAMBRIDGESHIRE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG - www.avg.com > Version: 9.0.733 / Virus Database: 271.1.1/2716 - Release Date: 03/01/10 07:34:00 > >

The Ely St Mary's CD contains the few available baptisms for St Peters, as the church is in St Mary's Parish -- Wendy Doyle Projects Co-ordinator Cambs FHS

Hi Lesley Findmypurse took over *some* of the entries from familyhistoryonline the FFHS site that had many transcripts and I presume that is where they originate Nivard Ovington in Cornwall (UK) > Thank you very much, Paula. I hadn't realised that there was information > like this on findmypast. I shall have to investigate further! >

Simon, The new CFHS CD/PR/96 for Ely St Mary also includes the Ely St Peter baps 1936-1950. The only register known to exist for St Peters is the Baps 1936-1985, which is now at the Cambridge Records Office. Regards Dave ----- Original Message ----- From: "Bob Burns" <pandb@personainternet.com> To: <eng-cambridgeshire@rootsweb.com> Sent: Saturday, February 27, 2010 12:23 AM Subject: Re: [ENG-CAMS] Ely Holy Trinity and St Peter's church > Simon > > The introduction to the CFHS CD/PR/009 for Holy Trinity Ely makes no > reference to St. Peters, so it's not possible to say from this source. > Hopefully an official of the CFHS will have more background to help you > > Bob Burns > > -----Original Message----- > From: eng-cambridgeshire-bounces@rootsweb.com > [mailto:eng-cambridgeshire-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Simon > Sent: Friday, February 26, 2010 11:43 AM > To: eng-cambridgeshire@rootsweb.com > Subject: [ENG-CAMS] Ely Holy Trinity and St Peter's church > > Can someone tell me if the CD-rom of Ely Holy Trinity 1559-1938 includes > the records of St Peter's church? > > St Peter's is in Broad Street, within Holy Trinity parish. It was opened > in 1889, but I believe that it had the status of a donative church > rather than a chapel of ease. Being a donative means that it might have > been attached to St Mary's parish rather than Holy Trinity. When I was > talking to the churchwarden a few months back, he was not really sure > where the parish records were - we looked through all the drawers in the > vestry, but we couldn't find them. Then he though they were probably in > the 'crypt' - a coal hole under the floor of the church currently used > for storing junk. St Peter's was,and is, licenced for baptisms, but not > for marriages. Up until 1938, when Holy Trinity and St Mary's parishes > were merged, several generations of my family were baptised in St > Peter's but married in the Lady Chapel of the cathedral. I'd be keen to > see chapter and verse on both events. > > Simon > norfolkchurches.co.uk > suffolkchurches.co.uk > > > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > ENG-CAMBRIDGESHIRE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' > without > the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > ENG-CAMBRIDGESHIRE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' > without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

Thank you very much, Paula. I hadn't realised that there was information like this on findmypast. I shall have to investigate further! So far the 10 children that I have for Charlotte & John RIPLEY are: Mary Frederick Ernest Ada Mildred Arthur Frank Florence Walwin Lilian Two descendants have told me that they were told by 2 of these children that there were 12 children in total, so who were the missing 2, I wonder? Any further information would be very gratefully received, as my husband is also a descendant. Lesley ----- Original Message ----- From: "Paula Patterson" <psycholemon@gmail.com> To: <eng-cambridgeshire@rootsweb.com> Sent: Saturday, February 27, 2010 8:16 PM Subject: Re: [ENG-CAMS] RIPLEY family in Cambridge > On 27/02/2010 12:02, Lesley Powell wrote: >> Hi >> >> I am researching the RIPLEY family who lived in Cambridge. Charlotte >> STOAKLEY married John Frederick RIPLEY in 1864 at St Paul's Church, >> Cambridge; they were both born in 1844. I have been told that they had >> 12 children, but so far I have only been able to find 10. FreeREG has >> only baptism entry for this family - that of Frederick Theodore RIPLEY on >> 14 Jul 1867 at St Sepulchre, Cambridge. >> >> Does anyone have any information which might be useful to me? I would be >> very grateful to receive any information about any of their descendants. >> >> Many thanks, Lesley >> >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> ENG-CAMBRIDGESHIRE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' >> without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >> >> > From FindMyPast..... > A few more for you: > Baptisms > St Paul's Church, Cambridge > 24 Sep 1865 Mary Elizabeth RIPLEY of John Frederic lab & Charlotte > RIPLEY of Cambridge Place > 21 June 1870 Ernest Edward RIPLEY of John brewer & Charlotte RIPLEY of 4 > Anthony St - privately baptised > 26 Feb 1871 Ada Sarah RIPLEY of John Frederick lab & Charlotte RIPLEY of > Russell St > 26 Jan 1873 Mildred RIPLEY of John brewer & Charlotte RIPLEY of Russell > Street > > St Barnabas, Cambridge > 8 Oct 1893 Florence RIPLEY of John Frederick agent & Charlotte RIPLEY of > 43 Cavendish Road (born 2 Feb 1879) > 15 Jun 1898 Lilian Edith RIPLEY of John Frederick farmer & Charlotte > RIPLEY of 43 Cavendish Road (born 10 Aug 1886) > > Marriages: > St Barnabas, Cambridge > 26 Oct 1896 > Arthur Lewis RIPLEY of 43 Cavendish Road bac whitesmith age 22 > father: John Frederick - poultry farmer > & > Susanna Beatrice CLARKE of 43 cavendish Road sp age 19 > father: Samuel - sanitary inspector (deceased) > by banns > witnesses: Frederick Theodore RIPLEY, Ada Sarah RIPLEY > > St Barnabas, Cambridge > 18 Oct 1898 > William Arthur SMITH of 39 Perowne St bac clerk age 20 > father: Donald George - mail messenger > & > Ada Sarah RIPLEY of 43 Cavendish Road sp age 27 > father: John Frederick - poultry farmer > by banns > witnesses: Mary Elizabeth RIPLEY, John Frederick RIPLEY > > St Luke, Chesterton, Cambs > 7 Aug 1899 > Friston William PAPWORTH of 396 Richmond Road bac printer age 26 > father: Daniel - stonemason (deceased) > & > Mildred RIPLEY of 191 Victoria Road sp age 25 > father: John - poultry farmer > by banns > witnesses: Charles ARLISS, Florence RIPLEY > > Burials: > St Paul's Church, Cambridge > 30 Jun 1870 Edward Ernest RIPLEY age 1 > > Paula > > > > > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > ENG-CAMBRIDGESHIRE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' > without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

On 27/02/2010 12:02, Lesley Powell wrote: > Hi > > I am researching the RIPLEY family who lived in Cambridge. Charlotte STOAKLEY married John Frederick RIPLEY in 1864 at St Paul's Church, Cambridge; they were both born in 1844. I have been told that they had 12 children, but so far I have only been able to find 10. FreeREG has only baptism entry for this family - that of Frederick Theodore RIPLEY on 14 Jul 1867 at St Sepulchre, Cambridge. > > Does anyone have any information which might be useful to me? I would be very grateful to receive any information about any of their descendants. > > Many thanks, Lesley > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to ENG-CAMBRIDGESHIRE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > From FindMyPast..... A few more for you: Baptisms St Paul's Church, Cambridge 24 Sep 1865 Mary Elizabeth RIPLEY of John Frederic lab & Charlotte RIPLEY of Cambridge Place 21 June 1870 Ernest Edward RIPLEY of John brewer & Charlotte RIPLEY of 4 Anthony St - privately baptised 26 Feb 1871 Ada Sarah RIPLEY of John Frederick lab & Charlotte RIPLEY of Russell St 26 Jan 1873 Mildred RIPLEY of John brewer & Charlotte RIPLEY of Russell Street St Barnabas, Cambridge 8 Oct 1893 Florence RIPLEY of John Frederick agent & Charlotte RIPLEY of 43 Cavendish Road (born 2 Feb 1879) 15 Jun 1898 Lilian Edith RIPLEY of John Frederick farmer & Charlotte RIPLEY of 43 Cavendish Road (born 10 Aug 1886) Marriages: St Barnabas, Cambridge 26 Oct 1896 Arthur Lewis RIPLEY of 43 Cavendish Road bac whitesmith age 22 father: John Frederick - poultry farmer & Susanna Beatrice CLARKE of 43 cavendish Road sp age 19 father: Samuel - sanitary inspector (deceased) by banns witnesses: Frederick Theodore RIPLEY, Ada Sarah RIPLEY St Barnabas, Cambridge 18 Oct 1898 William Arthur SMITH of 39 Perowne St bac clerk age 20 father: Donald George - mail messenger & Ada Sarah RIPLEY of 43 Cavendish Road sp age 27 father: John Frederick - poultry farmer by banns witnesses: Mary Elizabeth RIPLEY, John Frederick RIPLEY St Luke, Chesterton, Cambs 7 Aug 1899 Friston William PAPWORTH of 396 Richmond Road bac printer age 26 father: Daniel - stonemason (deceased) & Mildred RIPLEY of 191 Victoria Road sp age 25 father: John - poultry farmer by banns witnesses: Charles ARLISS, Florence RIPLEY Burials: St Paul's Church, Cambridge 30 Jun 1870 Edward Ernest RIPLEY age 1 Paula

Simon Suggest you contact Wendy Doyle at Cambs FHS. If she doesn't know where the registers are, nobody will. Alternatively, search for the BTs -----Original Message----- From: eng-cambridgeshire-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:eng-cambridgeshire-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of eng-cambridgeshire-request@rootsweb.com Sent: 27 February 2010 08:01 To: eng-cambridgeshire@rootsweb.com Subject: ENG-CAMBRIDGESHIRE Digest, Vol 5, Issue 28 Today's Topics: 1. Ely Holy Trinity and St Peter's church (Simon) 2. Re: Ely Holy Trinity and St Peter's church (Bob Burns) ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Message: 1 Date: Fri, 26 Feb 2010 16:42:57 +0000 From: Simon <simon@simonknott.co.uk> Subject: [ENG-CAMS] Ely Holy Trinity and St Peter's church To: eng-cambridgeshire@rootsweb.com Message-ID: <4B87FA11.7070803@simonknott.co.uk> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Can someone tell me if the CD-rom of Ely Holy Trinity 1559-1938 includes the records of St Peter's church? St Peter's is in Broad Street, within Holy Trinity parish. It was opened in 1889, but I believe that it had the status of a donative church rather than a chapel of ease. Being a donative means that it might have been attached to St Mary's parish rather than Holy Trinity. When I was talking to the churchwarden a few months back, he was not really sure where the parish records were - we looked through all the drawers in the vestry, but we couldn't find them. Then he though they were probably in the 'crypt' - a coal hole under the floor of the church currently used for storing junk. St Peter's was,and is, licenced for baptisms, but not for marriages. Up until 1938, when Holy Trinity and St Mary's parishes were merged, several generations of my family were baptised in St Peter's but married in the Lady Chapel of the cathedral. I'd be keen to see chapter and verse on both events. Simon norfolkchurches.co.uk suffolkchurches.co.uk ------------------------------ Message: 2 Date: Fri, 26 Feb 2010 19:23:11 -0500 From: Bob Burns <pandb@personainternet.com> Subject: Re: [ENG-CAMS] Ely Holy Trinity and St Peter's church To: eng-cambridgeshire@rootsweb.com Message-ID: <8EA15ED238574D4CAAF1BF7064F648D6@Bob> Content-Type: text/plain; CHARSET=US-ASCII Simon The introduction to the CFHS CD/PR/009 for Holy Trinity Ely makes no reference to St. Peters, so it's not possible to say from this source. Hopefully an official of the CFHS will have more background to help you Bob Burns -----Original Message----- From: eng-cambridgeshire-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:eng-cambridgeshire-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Simon Sent: Friday, February 26, 2010 11:43 AM To: eng-cambridgeshire@rootsweb.com Subject: [ENG-CAMS] Ely Holy Trinity and St Peter's church Can someone tell me if the CD-rom of Ely Holy Trinity 1559-1938 includes the records of St Peter's church? St Peter's is in Broad Street, within Holy Trinity parish. It was opened in 1889, but I believe that it had the status of a donative church rather than a chapel of ease. Being a donative means that it might have been attached to St Mary's parish rather than Holy Trinity. When I was talking to the churchwarden a few months back, he was not really sure where the parish records were - we looked through all the drawers in the vestry, but we couldn't find them. Then he though they were probably in the 'crypt' - a coal hole under the floor of the church currently used for storing junk. St Peter's was,and is, licenced for baptisms, but not for marriages. Up until 1938, when Holy Trinity and St Mary's parishes were merged, several generations of my family were baptised in St Peter's but married in the Lady Chapel of the cathedral. I'd be keen to see chapter and verse on both events. Simon norfolkchurches.co.uk suffolkchurches.co.uk ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to ENG-CAMBRIDGESHIRE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ------------------------------ To contact the ENG-CAMBRIDGESHIRE list administrator, send an email to ENG-CAMBRIDGESHIRE-admin@rootsweb.com. To post a message to the ENG-CAMBRIDGESHIRE mailing list, send an email to ENG-CAMBRIDGESHIRE@rootsweb.com. __________________________________________________________ To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to ENG-CAMBRIDGESHIRE-request@rootsweb.com with the word "unsubscribe" without the quotes in the subject and the body of the email with no additional text. End of ENG-CAMBRIDGESHIRE Digest, Vol 5, Issue 28 ************************************************* No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 9.0.733 / Virus Database: 271.1.1/2710 - Release Date: 02/26/10 07:34:00

My query here concerns a man from Witcham, Cambridgeshire and a woman from Bergholt, Suffolk. My interest is in JAMES HEWMAN born 1784 (with two brothers William b.1779 and John b.1781 and a sister Mary b.1788) at Witcham just outside Ely to John and Ann Hewman .  Is this the same James Human that turns up in 1841 in Scotland? James wife was called ANNA MARIA born 1799 in BERGHOLT SUFFOLK. In 1841 they were living in Scotland (and now known as HUMAN) - but James died in 1848 (buried in Edinburgh) and his wife returned to England. 1851 saw her living in Dovercourt Essex now calling herself MARIA A with a visitor George Gay b 1830 Ipswich Suffolk. 1861 she is living in Poulton, Bare and Torrisholme, Lancashire and called ANN M.  Now she is a servant to Neil Cameron (b 1810 Scotland) probably someone they knew from when they lived in Scotland as both her husband and Neil Cameron were Coast Guards. I have found a probable death for Ann in 1866 in Lancaster, Lancashire with her surname spelt HEWMAN. I would love to know her maiden name and where they were married (possibly no earlier than 1820?) I have been to Scotlands People - but the only documentation they have is his death certificate which just records his place of birth as ENGLAND. I would love to hear from anybody that might be able to help with this puzzle. Jill Human Cumbria