On 13/03/2010 01:29, Carolyn McCartney wrote: > Hi, > > Could anyone tell me if there are any online records available for any > Newmarket parish registers please? I am looking for the marriage of Henry > Porter to Maria (surname unknown, b abt 1795) in about 1828. I believe their > first daughter Ann was born in 1829. From the 1841 census, it appears that > Henry has died and from what I can see from freebmd, Maria and all her other > children, except Ann, have also died by 1842/4. Unfortunately I cannot buy > all the certs to confirm this but was hoping that the records might be > online somewhere. I would also like to be able to look for Henry& Maria's > births. In 1841 they are living at No 1 Shagbag, Wood Ditton. > > Ann Porter, the surviving child, married Richard Johnson on 30 Nov 1851, > Wood Ditton - my 2xg grandparents. > > If anyone can help/link with this family or perhaps point me in the right > direction, i would be most grateful. > > Carolyn > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to ENG-CAMBRIDGESHIRE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > Several diff sources (including Ancestry and the IGI) have 29 Aug 1829 All Saints Church, Newmarket - Henry PORTER to Maria COLLINS In the 1841 census - Maria and her children were living with William COLLINS age 30 AL Not born in Cambs and Henry COLLINS 15 S.A. Born in Cambs. -Maria's age was actually given as 40 not 45. Adult's ages in this census were rounded down to the nearest 5 so Maria could have been anywhere between 40 and 44 ie born between 1796 and 1801. The Suffolk County Baptisms List has: (all All Saints, Newmarket) 30 Jan 1820 Eliza COLLIN natural d of Maria COLLIN 20 Feb 1822 Henry COLLINS s of Maria COLLINS residence Wood Ditton 22 Feb 1828 Susan Sarah COLLINS natural d of Maria COLLINS 1851 census: Shag Bag, Wood Ditton William COLLIN Head U 45 Gardner (sic) b Suffolk Newmarket 1861 census: Station Road, Wood Ditton William COLLIN Head Un 56 Gardener b Suffolk, Newmarket Richard JOHNSON Lodger Mar 39 Stableman b Suffolk Bildestone Ann JOHNSON Wife Mar 30 b Cambs Newmarket & family

Seeing it on the map Peter is quite bizarre in itself, so I can imagine. My Larkins seemed to flow back and forward with work between these places. Hence the suggestion to Mike. And dont get me started on Herts, My Larkins Griggs married and worked in Cheshunt,Herts. All within cooee as we say here. Cheers Pam > Pam - this is a mysterious land where I spent my early years. To the west > of > Gamlingay three counties (Beds, Cambs and Hunts) all met at Gamlingay > Great > Heath. The hamlet of Tetworth in Hunts was a combined parish with Everton > in > Beds; so on the IGI it often appears as Everton, Hunts. The church in > Everton was a detatched portion of Huntingdonshire completely surrounded > by > Beds until it was tidied up in 1965! So I have a whole tree of these > cross-county ancestors with Herts thrown in as well. > > There was no record of James Wilson at Gamlingay Baptist Chapel by the > way. > > Peter Jarman

Hi, Could anyone tell me if there are any online records available for any Newmarket parish registers please? I am looking for the marriage of Henry Porter to Maria (surname unknown, b abt 1795) in about 1828. I believe their first daughter Ann was born in 1829. From the 1841 census, it appears that Henry has died and from what I can see from freebmd, Maria and all her other children, except Ann, have also died by 1842/4. Unfortunately I cannot buy all the certs to confirm this but was hoping that the records might be online somewhere. I would also like to be able to look for Henry & Maria's births. In 1841 they are living at No 1 Shagbag, Wood Ditton. Ann Porter, the surviving child, married Richard Johnson on 30 Nov 1851, Wood Ditton - my 2xg grandparents. If anyone can help/link with this family or perhaps point me in the right direction, i would be most grateful. Carolyn

to one and all who replied many thanks for your kind replies and suggestions that has certainly given me something to mull over and look into . Thanks again one and all . Mick Wilson

Oops - the reference to genes reunited should be findmypast. I have GenesReunited on my brain - yesterday I contacted three people with Levi FIRTH (my g grandfather) of Allerton / Bradford / W Yorks region in their trees - two have replied within less than a day and yes - a sixth cousin I think and a third cousin. Yippee! -----Original Message----- From: eng-cambridgeshire-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:eng-cambridgeshire-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Dawn Webb Sent: Friday, 12 March 2010 10:19 AM To: eng-cambridgeshire@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [ENG-CAMS] James Willson b Gamlingay 1830 Cambridgeshire seems to have had a lot of what is in England I think called chapels - here in Oz they are all churches.. anyway I was brought up in the Baptist church and yes, was baptized as a teenager - but I suspect you could get maybe, w th luck, the baptismal records from the church if they and it survive. It MAY if you are even luckier state the age.. I would start looking at least ten years after his suspected birth. And it could be he ws never baptized at all, or was about 70, so.. happy hunting! Personally I would do bits occasionally, try to find anything for his siblings, and extrapolate from what you can have., His marriage and children and death were all in the registration period past mid 1837 one presumes. What a pity the English death certs do not give his parents names, age, details of marriage(s) and children as do our local ones. Would make this much easier! And, keep searching those censuses. His age should be pretty right on the 1841 census - they did not round ages of anyone under 15 from memory. Have someone look on both genesreunited and ancestry -= they use different transcribers and I have found my family of FIRTH on all on all censuses on findmypast except one - they were however on ancestry for that missing census. I checked the address - they had been badly transcribed as Frost. Now fixed but GRRR at the time. Some given names were wrong too - eg my grandfather James Fisher FIRTH was Jos T on findmypast that census. Double GRRR. And Tamar (female) was transcribed as James (female) - go figure! All the best Dawn (Melbourne Australia) -----Original Message----- From: eng-cambridgeshire-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:eng-cambridgeshire-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of micknosliwww@hotmail.co.uk Sent: Friday, 12 March 2010 1:35 AM To: cambs f hist cams f hist Subject: [ENG-CAMS] James Willson b Gamlingay 1830 James has been my bete noir for many many years .I have seen a statement on I think the Bedfordshire County archives where it states that he was born in 1830 in Gamlingay Cambs - I would like to identify who his parents were - I know my lot were in Gamlingay at this time but cannot find any trace of his birth or baptism - they seem to have been strict baptists who did not believe in infant baptism - tho the use of the forename James suggests he does belong tho the family used a lot of biblical names but then most families seemed to . Can anyone enlighten me as to where to look as cannot find him on any of the censuses until either the 1881 or 1891 ones . T I A . Mick Wilson ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to ENG-CAMBRIDGESHIRE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message __________ Information from ESET NOD32 Antivirus, version of virus signature database 4937 (20100311) __________ The message was checked by ESET NOD32 Antivirus. http://www.eset.com __________ Information from ESET NOD32 Antivirus, version of virus signature database 4937 (20100311) __________ The message was checked by ESET NOD32 Antivirus. http://www.eset.com ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to ENG-CAMBRIDGESHIRE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message __________ Information from ESET NOD32 Antivirus, version of virus signature database 4937 (20100311) __________ The message was checked by ESET NOD32 Antivirus. http://www.eset.com __________ Information from ESET NOD32 Antivirus, version of virus signature database 4937 (20100311) __________ The message was checked by ESET NOD32 Antivirus. http://www.eset.com

Cambridgeshire seems to have had a lot of what is in England I think called chapels - here in Oz they are all churches.. anyway I was brought up in the Baptist church and yes, was baptized as a teenager - but I suspect you could get maybe, w th luck, the baptismal records from the church if they and it survive. It MAY if you are even luckier state the age.. I would start looking at least ten years after his suspected birth. And it could be he ws never baptized at all, or was about 70, so.. happy hunting! Personally I would do bits occasionally, try to find anything for his siblings, and extrapolate from what you can have., His marriage and children and death were all in the registration period past mid 1837 one presumes. What a pity the English death certs do not give his parents names, age, details of marriage(s) and children as do our local ones. Would make this much easier! And, keep searching those censuses. His age should be pretty right on the 1841 census - they did not round ages of anyone under 15 from memory. Have someone look on both genesreunited and ancestry -= they use different transcribers and I have found my family of FIRTH on all on all censuses on findmypast except one - they were however on ancestry for that missing census. I checked the address - they had been badly transcribed as Frost. Now fixed but GRRR at the time. Some given names were wrong too - eg my grandfather James Fisher FIRTH was Jos T on findmypast that census. Double GRRR. And Tamar (female) was transcribed as James (female) - go figure! All the best Dawn (Melbourne Australia) -----Original Message----- From: eng-cambridgeshire-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:eng-cambridgeshire-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of micknosliwww@hotmail.co.uk Sent: Friday, 12 March 2010 1:35 AM To: cambs f hist cams f hist Subject: [ENG-CAMS] James Willson b Gamlingay 1830 James has been my bete noir for many many years .I have seen a statement on I think the Bedfordshire County archives where it states that he was born in 1830 in Gamlingay Cambs - I would like to identify who his parents were - I know my lot were in Gamlingay at this time but cannot find any trace of his birth or baptism - they seem to have been strict baptists who did not believe in infant baptism - tho the use of the forename James suggests he does belong tho the family used a lot of biblical names but then most families seemed to . Can anyone enlighten me as to where to look as cannot find him on any of the censuses until either the 1881 or 1891 ones . T I A . Mick Wilson ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to ENG-CAMBRIDGESHIRE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message __________ Information from ESET NOD32 Antivirus, version of virus signature database 4937 (20100311) __________ The message was checked by ESET NOD32 Antivirus. http://www.eset.com __________ Information from ESET NOD32 Antivirus, version of virus signature database 4937 (20100311) __________ The message was checked by ESET NOD32 Antivirus. http://www.eset.com

Mick, you might try Cockayne Hatley in Bedfordshire. My Larkins folk are from Gamlingay and Cockayne Hatley & Waresley, Hunts. Some years ago a knowledgeabe person on this list mentioned that the border between Cambs and Beds runs right through the middle between Gamilingay and Cockayne Hatley and there is just over two miles between the two places (from memory). Look at a map and you will see that the three places are all within cooee of each other, but each within a different county. All well and good, I managed to get the PR's out for CH & Gamlingay but Waresley has not been filmed or transcribed. So I am stuck. Top of tree William Larkins born Waresley. Sigh. Parloc will also give you Parishes within a few miles of Gamlingay, and this might be your search base. Just a thought. Cheers Pam form Adelaide Australia James has been my bete noir for many many years .I have seen a statement on I think the Bedfordshire County archives where it states that he was born in 1830 in Gamlingay Cambs - I would like to identify who his parents were - I know my lot were in Gamlingay at this time but cannot find any trace of his birth or baptism - they seem to have been strict baptists who did not believe in infant baptism - tho the use of the forename James suggests he does belong tho the family used a lot of biblical names but then most families seemed to . Can anyone enlighten me as to where to look as cannot find him on any of the censuses until either the 1881 or 1891 ones . T I A . Mick Wilson

Pam - this is a mysterious land where I spent my early years. To the west of Gamlingay three counties (Beds, Cambs and Hunts) all met at Gamlingay Great Heath. The hamlet of Tetworth in Hunts was a combined parish with Everton in Beds; so on the IGI it often appears as Everton, Hunts. The church in Everton was a detatched portion of Huntingdonshire completely surrounded by Beds until it was tidied up in 1965! So I have a whole tree of these cross-county ancestors with Herts thrown in as well. There was no record of James Wilson at Gamlingay Baptist Chapel by the way. Peter Jarman -----Original Message----- From: eng-cambridgeshire-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:eng-cambridgeshire-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of pam hillier Sent: 11 March 2010 23:34 To: eng-cambridgeshire@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [ENG-CAMS] James Willson b Gamlingay 1830 Mick, you might try Cockayne Hatley in Bedfordshire. My Larkins folk are from Gamlingay and Cockayne Hatley & Waresley, Hunts. Some years ago a knowledgeabe person on this list mentioned that the border between Cambs and Beds runs right through the middle between Gamilingay and Cockayne Hatley and there is just over two miles between the two places (from memory). Look at a map and you will see that the three places are all within cooee of each other, but each within a different county. All well and good, I managed to get the PR's out for CH & Gamlingay but Waresley has not been filmed or transcribed. So I am stuck. Top of tree William Larkins born Waresley. Sigh. Parloc will also give you Parishes within a few miles of Gamlingay, and this might be your search base. Just a thought. Cheers Pam form Adelaide Australia James has been my bete noir for many many years .I have seen a statement on I think the Bedfordshire County archives where it states that he was born in 1830 in Gamlingay Cambs - I would like to identify who his parents were - I know my lot were in Gamlingay at this time but cannot find any trace of his birth or baptism - they seem to have been strict baptists who did not believe in infant baptism - tho the use of the forename James suggests he does belong tho the family used a lot of biblical names but then most families seemed to . Can anyone enlighten me as to where to look as cannot find him on any of the censuses until either the 1881 or 1891 ones . T I A . Mick Wilson ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to ENG-CAMBRIDGESHIRE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 8.5.436 / Virus Database: 271.1.1/2730 - Release Date: 03/08/10 07:34:00

On 11 Mar, <micknosliwww@hotmail.co.uk> wrote: > James has been my bete noir for many many years .I have seen a statement > on I think the Bedfordshire County archives where it states that he > was born in 1830 in Gamlingay Cambs - I would like to identify who his > parents were - I know my lot were in Gamlingay at this time but cannot > find any trace of his birth or baptism - they seem to have been strict > baptists who did not believe in infant baptism - tho the use of the > forename James suggests he does belong tho the family used a lot of > biblical names but then most families seemed to . Can anyone enlighten > me as to where to look as cannot find him on any of the censuses until > either the 1881 or 1891 ones . T I A . Mick Wilson I can't help directly, but remember James was Jesus's brother. -- Christine Pampling www.pandorasboxhealing.com

Just to confirm what Paula says below: The only James Wilson on the Cambs FHS Disc for Gamlingay is the one baptised 12-Sep-1819 with parents David Wilson and Ann Peter Jarman -----Original Message----- From: eng-cambridgeshire-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:eng-cambridgeshire-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Paula Patterson Sent: 11 March 2010 16:30 To: eng-cambridgeshire@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [ENG-CAMS] James Willson b Gamlingay 1830 On 11/03/2010 14:34, micknosliwww@hotmail.co.uk wrote: > James has been my bete noir for many many years .I have seen a statement on I think the Bedfordshire County archives where it states that he was born in 1830 in Gamlingay Cambs - I would like to identify who his parents were - I know my lot were in Gamlingay at this time but cannot find any trace of his birth or baptism - they seem to have been strict baptists who did not believe in infant baptism - tho the use of the forename James suggests he does belong tho the family used a lot of biblical names but then most families seemed to . > Can anyone enlighten me as to where to look as cannot find him on any of the censuses until either the 1881 or 1891 ones . T I A . > Mick Wilson > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to ENG-CAMBRIDGESHIRE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > The only James WILLSON b ~1830 in Gamlingay that I can spot in the 1881 census is the one I've transcribed below. However in all other censuses this James gave an age which indicates he was actually born around 1817-1819. CFHS has a Baptism index which shows that a James WILSON son of David & Ann WILSON was baptised in Gamlingay in 1819 and that the same couple had (amongst other children) a daughter called Hannah baptised in 1833 in Gamlingay. 1891 census: RG12 Piece 1264 Folio 56 Page 16 High Street, Leighton Buzzard, Beds James WILLSON Head Mar 71 Shoe dealer b Camb Gamlingay Anne WILLSON Wife Mar 73 b Bucks High Wycombe Frederick J WILLSON Son S 33 Shoe dealers assistant b Herts Hertford Elizabeth C SKEVINGTON Daur Wid 44 Shoe dealers assistant b Herts Hertford Fred W WORSLEY Grandson 14 Drapers assistant b Beds Leighton Bd Sabina HING Serv S 19 General Domestic serv b Beds Leighton Bd Anne M SAMBROOK Visitor M 54 General dressmaker b Beds Leighton Bd 1881 census: RG11 Piece 1640 Folio 66 Page 22 High Street, Leighton Buzzard, Beds James WILLSON Head Mar 51 Boot dealer b Camb Gamlingay Ann WILLSON Wife Mar 52 b Bucks High Wycombe Martha WILLSON Daur Unm 26 b Herts, Hertford Frederick WILLSON Son Unm 24 Boot shopman b Herts Hertford Sarah ELLIS Serv Unm 26 Genr Servant b Beds Leighton 1871 RG10 Piece 1561 Folio 40 Page 7 High Street, Leighton Buzzard, Beds James WILLSON Head Mar 53 Shoe dealer b Gamlingay, Cambs Ann WILLSON Wife Mar 54 b Bucks, High Wycombe Martha T WILLSON Daur Unm 16 Assistant b Hertford Frederic J WILLSON Son Unm 14 Scholar b Hertford 1861 RG9 Piece 824 Folio 4 Page 2 Maidenhead Street, Hertford, Herts James WILLSON Head Mar 42 China dealer b Cambs Gamlingay Ann WILLSON Wife Mar 43 b Bucks, High Wycombe Emily WILLSON Daur 14 b Herts, Hertford Annie WILLSON Daur 10 b Herts, Hertford Clara WILLSON Daur 9 b Herts, Hertford Martha WILLSON Daur 6 b Herts, Hertford Frederick WILLSON Son 4 b Herts, Hertford Cliff WILLSON Son 1 b Herts, Hertford Caroline ACRES Serv Un 14 b Herts, Waterford 1851 census: HO107 Piece 1711 Folio 386 Page 4 Fore Street, Hertford, Herts James WILSON Head Mar 33 Drapers assistant b Cambs Gamlingay Ann WILSON Wife Mar 34 b Bucks High Wycombe Emily WILSON daur 4 at home b Herts Hertford Annie WILSON daur 7m b Herts Hertford Hannah WILSON sister Unm 18 Visitor b Cambs Gamlingay Possible parents for Hannah WILSON mentioned above..... 1841 census: HO107 Piece 68 Folio 6 Page 7 Cock Street, Gamlingay, Cambs David WILSON 40 Carpenter Y Ann WILSON 40 N Sarah WILSON 20 Y John WILSON 18 Y Joseph WILSON 13 Y William WILSON 11 Y Hannah WILSON 9 Y Mary WILSON 7 Y Elizabeth WILSON 4 Y Charles WILSON 1 Y ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to ENG-CAMBRIDGESHIRE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 8.5.436 / Virus Database: 271.1.1/2730 - Release Date: 03/08/10 07:34:00

On 11/03/2010 14:34, micknosliwww@hotmail.co.uk wrote: > James has been my bete noir for many many years .I have seen a statement on I think the Bedfordshire County archives where it states that he was born in 1830 in Gamlingay Cambs - I would like to identify who his parents were - I know my lot were in Gamlingay at this time but cannot find any trace of his birth or baptism - they seem to have been strict baptists who did not believe in infant baptism - tho the use of the forename James suggests he does belong tho the family used a lot of biblical names but then most families seemed to . > Can anyone enlighten me as to where to look as cannot find him on any of the censuses until either the 1881 or 1891 ones . T I A . > Mick Wilson > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to ENG-CAMBRIDGESHIRE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > The only James WILLSON b ~1830 in Gamlingay that I can spot in the 1881 census is the one I've transcribed below. However in all other censuses this James gave an age which indicates he was actually born around 1817-1819. CFHS has a Baptism index which shows that a James WILSON son of David & Ann WILSON was baptised in Gamlingay in 1819 and that the same couple had (amongst other children) a daughter called Hannah baptised in 1833 in Gamlingay. 1891 census: RG12 Piece 1264 Folio 56 Page 16 High Street, Leighton Buzzard, Beds James WILLSON Head Mar 71 Shoe dealer b Camb Gamlingay Anne WILLSON Wife Mar 73 b Bucks High Wycombe Frederick J WILLSON Son S 33 Shoe dealers assistant b Herts Hertford Elizabeth C SKEVINGTON Daur Wid 44 Shoe dealers assistant b Herts Hertford Fred W WORSLEY Grandson 14 Drapers assistant b Beds Leighton Bd Sabina HING Serv S 19 General Domestic serv b Beds Leighton Bd Anne M SAMBROOK Visitor M 54 General dressmaker b Beds Leighton Bd 1881 census: RG11 Piece 1640 Folio 66 Page 22 High Street, Leighton Buzzard, Beds James WILLSON Head Mar 51 Boot dealer b Camb Gamlingay Ann WILLSON Wife Mar 52 b Bucks High Wycombe Martha WILLSON Daur Unm 26 b Herts, Hertford Frederick WILLSON Son Unm 24 Boot shopman b Herts Hertford Sarah ELLIS Serv Unm 26 Genr Servant b Beds Leighton 1871 RG10 Piece 1561 Folio 40 Page 7 High Street, Leighton Buzzard, Beds James WILLSON Head Mar 53 Shoe dealer b Gamlingay, Cambs Ann WILLSON Wife Mar 54 b Bucks, High Wycombe Martha T WILLSON Daur Unm 16 Assistant b Hertford Frederic J WILLSON Son Unm 14 Scholar b Hertford 1861 RG9 Piece 824 Folio 4 Page 2 Maidenhead Street, Hertford, Herts James WILLSON Head Mar 42 China dealer b Cambs Gamlingay Ann WILLSON Wife Mar 43 b Bucks, High Wycombe Emily WILLSON Daur 14 b Herts, Hertford Annie WILLSON Daur 10 b Herts, Hertford Clara WILLSON Daur 9 b Herts, Hertford Martha WILLSON Daur 6 b Herts, Hertford Frederick WILLSON Son 4 b Herts, Hertford Cliff WILLSON Son 1 b Herts, Hertford Caroline ACRES Serv Un 14 b Herts, Waterford 1851 census: HO107 Piece 1711 Folio 386 Page 4 Fore Street, Hertford, Herts James WILSON Head Mar 33 Drapers assistant b Cambs Gamlingay Ann WILSON Wife Mar 34 b Bucks High Wycombe Emily WILSON daur 4 at home b Herts Hertford Annie WILSON daur 7m b Herts Hertford Hannah WILSON sister Unm 18 Visitor b Cambs Gamlingay Possible parents for Hannah WILSON mentioned above..... 1841 census: HO107 Piece 68 Folio 6 Page 7 Cock Street, Gamlingay, Cambs David WILSON 40 Carpenter Y Ann WILSON 40 N Sarah WILSON 20 Y John WILSON 18 Y Joseph WILSON 13 Y William WILSON 11 Y Hannah WILSON 9 Y Mary WILSON 7 Y Elizabeth WILSON 4 Y Charles WILSON 1 Y

James has been my bete noir for many many years .I have seen a statement on I think the Bedfordshire County archives where it states that he was born in 1830 in Gamlingay Cambs - I would like to identify who his parents were - I know my lot were in Gamlingay at this time but cannot find any trace of his birth or baptism - they seem to have been strict baptists who did not believe in infant baptism - tho the use of the forename James suggests he does belong tho the family used a lot of biblical names but then most families seemed to . Can anyone enlighten me as to where to look as cannot find him on any of the censuses until either the 1881 or 1891 ones . T I A . Mick Wilson

----- Original Message ----- From: "Norman Custance" <norval@ncustance.fsnet.co.uk> To: <ENG-HUNTINGDON-L@rootsweb.com>; <ENG-HUNTINGDON-L@rootsweb.com>; "Cambridge List" <ENG-CAMBRIDGESHIRE-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Saturday, March 06, 2010 9:32 PM Subject: [ENG-HUNTINGDON] Certificates > I have recently found out that Death Certificates are now £ 10, and you must > know the full date of death to obtain one. The folio and page number are not > used. I think this applies for deaths in the last 10 years or so. I got on that page by accident last week due to forgetting to tick one of the the boxes on the form. I think this applies where the GRO reference is not known. I was able to order some death certificates at the old rate of £7 on Wednesday last week. Regards Peter

"Norman Custance" <norval@ncustance.fsnet.co.uk> wrote : >I have recently found out that Death Certificates are now £ 10, and you >must >know the full date of death to obtain one. The folio and page number are >not >used. I think this applies for deaths in the last 10 years or so. You seem to be 'jumping the gun' and not getting it entirely right, to boot. The price of certificates will change from April 6th. Those ordered online from the GRO and with a GRO reference will rise from the current £7 to £9.25, not £10 as you state. Certificates ordered from the GRO in other ways, or without a GRO reference, will all cost the same, £9.25, whereas they now cost assorted amounts, generally more than £9.25. Certificates ordered from a local Register Office will actually cost less, at either £7 or £9, depending on whether issued by a Superintendent, or other, Registrar. Your comment about needing to know the full date of death is not mentioned in the IPS announcement - see http://www.ips.gov.uk/cps/rde/xchg/ips_live/hs.xsl/1569.htm for the full details. The requirements of local Register Offices can be different and they certainly have no interest in the GRO reference (if this is what you mean by folio and page number); this is created by the GRO and is not directly relevant to the local offices' records. Other details are no different from those required by the GRO, although local offices may have other constraints that cause them problems and they may, perhaps, ask for more information to try to reduce the search time. Events in the last 10 years are no different from any others, although there are some extra-statutory rules about births in the last 50 years. John B Leic., Eng

Hi Norman I suspect you are talking about local registrars offices rather than the GRO where the set charge is 7gbp until it rises to 9.25gbp (if ordering with the GRO ref) Some local offices charge a premium for supplying certificates If you order online without the GRO index reference it is at present 10gbp There are some extra criteria that need to be fulfilled when ordering a more recent certificate such as the date of death Nivard Ovington in Cornwall (UK) I have recently found out that Death Certificates are now £ 10, and you must know the full date of death to obtain one. The folio and page number are not used. I think this applies for deaths in the last 10 years or so. Regards, Norman Custance.

I have recently found out that Death Certificates are now £ 10, and you must know the full date of death to obtain one. The folio and page number are not used. I think this applies for deaths in the last 10 years or so. Regards, Norman Custance. -------------------------------------------------- From: "Ann McClean" <iemcc.ann@tiscali.co.uk> Sent: Wednesday, March 03, 2010 8:40 AM To: "PALMER-EAST-ANGLIA-UK@rootsweb.com" <PALMER-EAST-ANGLIA-UK-L@rootsweb.com>; <WEATHERSTON@rootsweb.com> Cc: "FENS LIST" <ENGLISH-FENS-L@rootsweb.com>; "WISBECH LIST" <ENG-WISBECH-AREA-L@rootsweb.com> Subject: [ENG-FENS] General Register Office introduces new charges for BMDcertificates > > General Register Office introduces new charges > > http://www.ips.gov.uk/cps/rde/xchg/ips_live/hs.xsl/1569.htm > > Price of BMD certificates goes upto *£9.25* on 6 April 2010 > > Better get those 'must have' certificate orders in quick! >

That's good, I think I can identify the deceased person if the widow or wife of.. Levi FIRTH in this case, is listed. The marriage cert that comes mighty fast after the death then should say the groom's father.. which would prove sort of it is him! Thank you Rose. Whether it is OK to put a qualifier wife of Levi Firth, I do not know. It might be just Levi and then - I don't get it! I know what you are thinking - we are spoiled here in Victoria with the amount of info on a death cert. when Mum died, it had me (only child), her marriage details and spouse, her parents, and her mother's maiden name. Now that is in effect four generations from one cert - three certainly. As well as her parents' occupations and her place of birth. Dawn -----Original Message----- From: eng-cambridgeshire-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:eng-cambridgeshire-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of opiekan Sent: Saturday, 6 March 2010 5:10 PM To: eng-cambridgeshire@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [ENG-CAMS] info on English bdm certs Hi Dawn, I'm not sure of a site but on the certificates I have - Death 1897 - for a married Female, no maiden name, listed as widow of ........ informant was a daughter. So at least I could get the married surname for the daughter. Death - for a child ,only listed father, on the cert father was already deceased and sister was informant even thou mother was still alive. Marriage - listed the fathers name & occupation, not the mothers name. On one it didn't list the father as deceased but he was. Marriage 1917 husband was a widower, took me some years to find his previous marriage, but if he had been a woman, cert may have said formerly under surname. Early 1900's death cert same as 1800's. Not much information when trying to match up parents. Cheers Rose. ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to ENG-CAMBRIDGESHIRE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message __________ Information from ESET NOD32 Antivirus, version of virus signature database 4919 (20100305) __________ The message was checked by ESET NOD32 Antivirus. http://www.eset.com __________ Information from ESET NOD32 Antivirus, version of virus signature database 4919 (20100305) __________ The message was checked by ESET NOD32 Antivirus. http://www.eset.com

Hi Dawn, I'm not sure of a site but on the certificates I have - Death 1897 - for a married Female, no maiden name, listed as widow of ........ informant was a daughter. So at least I could get the married surname for the daughter. Death - for a child ,only listed father, on the cert father was already deceased and sister was informant even thou mother was still alive. Marriage - listed the fathers name & occupation, not the mothers name. On one it didn't list the father as deceased but he was. Marriage 1917 husband was a widower, took me some years to find his previous marriage, but if he had been a woman, cert may have said formerly under surname. Early 1900's death cert same as 1800's. Not much information when trying to match up parents. Cheers Rose.

Hello I have dug about on several sites and cannot find what I am sure I have seen in years gone by - the info contained on BDM certificates. Births in the 1800s, marriages ditto, deaths also. Please - can folk advise of at least a site that gives this info? I have ordered a number before the price rises and want more - I THINK I know the certs but am not sure. Is it, for example, putting as a qualifier on a death cert the deceased woman's maiden name, her husband, or her children? I strongly suspect not for the husband and children - mavbe her maiden name would be on it. I do not feel like ordering a cert on the off chance her husband was the informant - I know him, he was my g grandfather. If this particular death cert is the one I want, then he re-married in the same quarter and same year as his first wife died leaving him with a pack of children, down to toddler age. I'd expected it to be fast but not THAT fast! There are other certs I need, too, and I am having similar problems with them - especially with my gg grandfather on the same line who also had three wives after the first two died! Dawn (Melbourne Australia)

The site you're thinking of is probably http://home.clara.net/dixons/Certificates/deaths.htm --- En date de : Sam 6.3.10, Dawn Webb <dawnwebb@optusnet.com.au> a écrit : > De: Dawn Webb <dawnwebb@optusnet.com.au> > Objet: Re: [ENG-CAMS] info on English bdm certs > À: eng-cambridgeshire@rootsweb.com > Date: Samedi 6 mars 2010, 7h48 > That's good, I think I can identify > the deceased person if the widow or wife > of..  Levi FIRTH in this case, is listed.  The > marriage cert that comes > mighty fast after the death then should say the groom's > father.. which would > prove sort of it is him!  Thank you Rose.  > Whether it is OK to put a > qualifier wife of Levi Firth, I do not know. It might be > just Levi and then > - I don't get it! > > I know what you are thinking - we are spoiled here in > Victoria with the > amount of info on a death cert.  when Mum died, it had > me (only child), her > marriage details and spouse, her parents, and her mother's > maiden name.  Now > that is in effect four generations from one cert - three > certainly.  As well > as her parents' occupations and her place of birth. > > Dawn > > -----Original Message----- > From: eng-cambridgeshire-bounces@rootsweb.com > [mailto:eng-cambridgeshire-bounces@rootsweb.com] > On Behalf Of opiekan > Sent: Saturday, 6 March 2010 5:10 PM > To: eng-cambridgeshire@rootsweb.com > Subject: Re: [ENG-CAMS] info on English bdm certs > > Hi Dawn, > > I'm not sure of a site but on the certificates I have - > > Death 1897 - for a married Female, no maiden name, listed > as widow of > ........ informant was a daughter. So at least I could get > the married > surname for the daughter. > > Death - for a child ,only listed father, on the cert father > was already > deceased and sister was informant even thou mother was > still alive. > > Marriage -  listed the fathers name & occupation, > not the mothers name.  On > one it didn't list the father as deceased but he was. > > Marriage 1917 husband was a widower, took me some years to > find his previous > > marriage, but if he had been a woman, cert may have said > formerly under > surname. > > Early 1900's death cert same as 1800's. > > Not much information when trying to match up parents. > > Cheers > > Rose. > > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > ENG-CAMBRIDGESHIRE-request@rootsweb.com > with the word 'unsubscribe' without > the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > __________ Information from ESET NOD32 Antivirus, version > of virus signature > database 4919 (20100305) __________ > > The message was checked by ESET NOD32 Antivirus. > > http://www.eset.com > > > > > __________ Information from ESET NOD32 Antivirus, version > of virus signature > database 4919 (20100305) __________ > > The message was checked by ESET NOD32 Antivirus. > > http://www.eset.com > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to ENG-CAMBRIDGESHIRE-request@rootsweb.com > with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the > subject and the body of the message >