Hi Karen, Now that we have the right family here he is on the 1901 Census: 37 Stamary Street, Kennington First, Lambeth, London. ("The Alderman/mare") CUTCHEY Arthur E 40 Head Licensed Victualler Barton Mills CUTCHEY Florence 33 Wife Maidstone, Kent CUTCHEY Ellen E 13 Daur Lambeth, London CUTCHEY Reginald W 9 Son Walton on Thames, Surrey CUTCHEY Arthur E 4 Son Lambeth, London + 3 servants Jennie
Hi Jennie Thats my man. He was a publican, so "beer retailer" sounds right. Yippee!!!!!! I finally have something I can tell my husband about his family. Thanks Karen -----Original Message----- From: Jennie Hudson [mailto:whitewav@powerup.com.au] Sent: Monday, 28 June 2004 8:03 PM To: ENG-CAMBRIDGESHIRE-L@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [ENG-CAMB] ARTHUR EDWARD CUTCHEY Hi Karen, I also found the following for you. 1881 Census: Fordham Road, Soham: CUTCHEY Henry 64 Retired Farmer ...D wellitch, Sfk CUTCHEY Sarah A 64 Wife Stanton, Sfk CUTCHEY Albert 7 G/son Soham, Cambs. British Vital Records Index. Baptisms recorded in Bishop's Transcripts for Suffolk. CUTCHY Ellen Anne born 24 Jan 1840 Hepworth, Sfk. bapt. 6 Mar 1840 d. Henry Bartholomew & Sarah Anne CUTCHEY Henry Augustus Bartholomew born 21 April 1843 bapt. 1 May 1843 s. Henry Bartholomew & Sarah Anne CUTCHEY Sarah Anne born Walpole, Sfk bapt. 19 Mar 1845. d. Henry Bartholomew & Sarah Anne CUTCHEY Bartholomew Henry. bpt. 21 Feb 1815. s. Bartholomew & Susan. 1891 Census: Lambeth Church Second, Lambeth, London: 2 Devonshire Street (Plough Brewery) CUTCHEY Arthur E 29 Beer Retailer Barton Mills, Sfk CUTCHEY Florence 25 Wife Maidstone, Kent CUTCHEY Ellen E 3 Daur Lambeth, London CUTCHEY Arthur H 1 Son Lambeth, London MAISEY Jessie E 20 Serv Domestic Servant Newington, London KING Ada L 14 Serv Nurse Maid Sevinton, Wilts. Burials taken from the National Burial Index: 9 Sep 1831 Bartholemew CUTCHEY 63 Suffolk Badwell Ash, St Mary 25 Mar 1845 Sarah Ann CUTCHEY inf Suffolk Walpole, St Mary 13 May 1868 Susan CUTCHEY 79 Suffolk Badwell Ash, St Mary Hope this helps Jennie ==== ENG-CAMBRIDGESHIRE Mailing List ==== .
Hi Karen, I also found the following for you. 1881 Census: Fordham Road, Soham: CUTCHEY Henry 64 Retired Farmer ...D wellitch, Sfk CUTCHEY Sarah A 64 Wife Stanton, Sfk CUTCHEY Albert 7 G/son Soham, Cambs. British Vital Records Index. Baptisms recorded in Bishop's Transcripts for Suffolk. CUTCHY Ellen Anne born 24 Jan 1840 Hepworth, Sfk. bapt. 6 Mar 1840 d. Henry Bartholomew & Sarah Anne CUTCHEY Henry Augustus Bartholomew born 21 April 1843 bapt. 1 May 1843 s. Henry Bartholomew & Sarah Anne CUTCHEY Sarah Anne born Walpole, Sfk bapt. 19 Mar 1845. d. Henry Bartholomew & Sarah Anne CUTCHEY Bartholomew Henry. bpt. 21 Feb 1815. s. Bartholomew & Susan. 1891 Census: Lambeth Church Second, Lambeth, London: 2 Devonshire Street (Plough Brewery) CUTCHEY Arthur E 29 Beer Retailer Barton Mills, Sfk CUTCHEY Florence 25 Wife Maidstone, Kent CUTCHEY Ellen E 3 Daur Lambeth, London CUTCHEY Arthur H 1 Son Lambeth, London MAISEY Jessie E 20 Serv Domestic Servant Newington, London KING Ada L 14 Serv Nurse Maid Sevinton, Wilts. Burials taken from the National Burial Index: 9 Sep 1831 Bartholemew CUTCHEY 63 Suffolk Badwell Ash, St Mary 25 Mar 1845 Sarah Ann CUTCHEY inf Suffolk Walpole, St Mary 13 May 1868 Susan CUTCHEY 79 Suffolk Badwell Ash, St Mary Hope this helps Jennie
Janice and List: The census practice of crossing out an occupation (possibly that someone insisted on?) seems to be an early example of data base design - you can only pick from a set list of occupations. My grandfather had "chemist in a steelworks" which was replaced by "scientist", which would hardly be my interpretation; however he ended up as the chief metallurgist for one of the largest steel companies in Sheffield. Some of my wife's family members were down as "horsekeepers" and later became "Grooms", but the former was interpreted as "housekeeper"!! Another reason for not totally relying on transcriptions. Paul DIXON, in Ontario, Canada Researching DAWSON & UTTLEY in Sheffield/Rotherham SHAW in Staffs. & N Yorks. WAKELIN, BOTTRILL GAMBLE,in Leics. & N Yorks., BISHOP, PEACOCK in Cambridge DIXON, CAPEL, JORDAN, SURREY, LAMBARTH, DUFFY, Y(E)ATES in London.
Hi Sure a Shoemaker would do repairs but a cobbler who only does repairs can't make shoes my Grandfather was a shoemaker he had a shop where they lived & I know that my father said he repaired shoes/boots. Regards Janice ----- Original Message ----- From: "Geoff Lewin BLAXALL" <Geoff-Blaxall@beeb.net> To: <ENG-CAMBRIDGESHIRE-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Sunday, June 27, 2004 11:14 PM Subject: Re: [ENG-CAMB] Trades > A Cordwainer was a high class shoe-maker using "Cordovan", a very high-class, genteel, fine quality [expensive !] leather from Cordovan in Spain. > > Bye the bye, a cobbler is not a shoe/boot maker ~ he is a shoe/boot repairer/mender, hence shoemaker & cobbler. > > A Chapman is/was a travelling door-to-door salesman of trinkets, ribbons, pins & the like ~ a pedlar or in Yorkshire dialect ~ a Higgler. > > Geoff Lewin BLAXALL [Hextable, Kent, S.E. England] > NWKentFam.Hist.Society #3593. http://GeoffBlaxall.tripod.com > All mail protected by Norton AV. > > > > ==== ENG-CAMBRIDGESHIRE Mailing List ==== > . >
Hi Jenny Thanks so much. It looks like they are relatives. Tracey from the list sent me info from the 1871 Census that lists the family as "Chutchy" Name Age in 1871 Birthplace Relationship Civil Parish County/Island View Census? Save This? Arthur E Chutchey 10 Barton Mills, Suffolk, England Son Soham Cambridgeshire Catherine Julia Chutchey 18 Livermere, Suffolk, England Daughter Soham Cambridgeshire Frederick Chas Chutchey 12 Barton Mills, Suffolk, England Son Soham Cambridgeshire Henry Chutchey 54 Barwell, Suffolk, England Head Soham Cambridgeshire Sarah Ann Chutchey 54 Hunton, Suffolk, England Wife Soham Cambridgeshire Sarah Ann Chutchey 20 Bickenhill, Suffolk, England Daughter Soham Cambridgeshire The "Chutchey" above and Arthur E Chutchey mentioned above looks like the one I'm after, but they don't seem to appear on the later info you sent. I wonder where they got to????? Thanks again Karen -----Original Message----- From: Jennie Hudson [mailto:whitewav@powerup.com.au] Sent: Monday, 28 June 2004 9:13 AM To: ENG-CAMBRIDGESHIRE-L@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [ENG-CAMB] ARTHUR EDWARD CUTCHEY Hi Karen, Camdex Birth Index: 1877: Cutchey Annie L. Ref: 331/SOH/26/480/2 1880: Cutchey Arthur E. Ref: 331/SOH/28/119 1884: Cutchey Harry Ref. 331/SOH/30/249 1889: Cutchey George D Ref. 331/SOH/33/312/1 1881 Census: Green Hills, Soham: CUTCHEY Charles 22 Head Ag. Lab. Barton Mills, Sfk CUTCHEY Susan 24 Wife Freckenham, Sfk CUTCHEY Anna 3 Daur Soham, Cambs CUTCHEY Arthur 1 Son Soham, Cambs 1891 Census: Newmarket Union Workhouse, Exning CUTCHEY Arthur 11 Inmate Soham, Cambs CUTCHEY Harry 8 Inmate Soham, Cambs 1891 Census: Green Hills, Soham, Cambs: CUTCHEY Susan 38 Wid Charwoman Freckenham, Sfk CUTCHEY Annie 13 Daur Ag. Field Work Soham, Cambs CUTCHEY George 1 Son Soham, Cambs 1901 Census: Green Hills, Soham, Cambs. THOMAS Stephen 62 Head Farm Lab Elworth, Ches THOMAS Susan 47 Wife Char woman Freckenham, Sfk THOMAS William 22 Son Farm Lab Soham, Cambs CUTCHEY Arthur 21 Stepson Farm Lab Soham, Cambs CUTCHEY Harry 17 Stepson Farm Lab Soham, Cambs CUTCHEY George 11 Stepson Soham, Cambs Hope this helps, Jennie ==== ENG-CAMBRIDGESHIRE Mailing List ==== .
Hi Karen, Camdex Birth Index: 1877: Cutchey Annie L. Ref: 331/SOH/26/480/2 1880: Cutchey Arthur E. Ref: 331/SOH/28/119 1884: Cutchey Harry Ref. 331/SOH/30/249 1889: Cutchey George D Ref. 331/SOH/33/312/1 1881 Census: Green Hills, Soham: CUTCHEY Charles 22 Head Ag. Lab. Barton Mills, Sfk CUTCHEY Susan 24 Wife Freckenham, Sfk CUTCHEY Anna 3 Daur Soham, Cambs CUTCHEY Arthur 1 Son Soham, Cambs 1891 Census: Newmarket Union Workhouse, Exning CUTCHEY Arthur 11 Inmate Soham, Cambs CUTCHEY Harry 8 Inmate Soham, Cambs 1891 Census: Green Hills, Soham, Cambs: CUTCHEY Susan 38 Wid Charwoman Freckenham, Sfk CUTCHEY Annie 13 Daur Ag. Field Work Soham, Cambs CUTCHEY George 1 Son Soham, Cambs 1901 Census: Green Hills, Soham, Cambs. THOMAS Stephen 62 Head Farm Lab Elworth, Ches THOMAS Susan 47 Wife Char woman Freckenham, Sfk THOMAS William 22 Son Farm Lab Soham, Cambs CUTCHEY Arthur 21 Stepson Farm Lab Soham, Cambs CUTCHEY Harry 17 Stepson Farm Lab Soham, Cambs CUTCHEY George 11 Stepson Soham, Cambs Hope this helps, Jennie
Dear Janice, cordwainer = worker in Cordovan leather from Codova in Spain = shoemaker. Similar terms used in Danish, Dutch, German. Regards, David. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Janice Aitkens1" <janice.aitkens1@ntlworld.com> To: <ENG-CAMBRIDGESHIRE-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Sunday, June 27, 2004 5:46 PM Subject: Re: [ENG-CAMB] Saffron Walden > Hello > I just been putting some of my finds of the 1901 census on to computer & > there has been Cordwainers as Occupation which has been crossed out & > Shoe/Bootmaker there I know that my ancestors who I am putting in where > Shoemakers this has happen on 2 or 3 different census so it not all on the > same household so I think that it has to do with being a cobbler > Regards Janice > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "David Foster" <Gardenridgeca@netscape.net> > To: <ENG-CAMBRIDGESHIRE-L@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Sunday, June 27, 2004 4:43 PM > Subject: [ENG-CAMB] Saffron Walden > > > > Hi, > > > > I'm hoping someone can explain a notation I've discovered on a map of > > Medieval Saffron Waldon. The map shows the layout of the old town > > market. Eight areas are set out in small blocks with a key: Le > > Draperie; Tanner's Row; Chapman's Row; fyshe Row; Cordwainers Row; Cloth > > Row; Le Boucherie; Pultrey Hill. Most are obvious but the one's I'm > > curious about are Chapman, Le Boucherie, and Pultrey Hill. Can anyone > > explain these "trades"? > > > > Dave in Victoria BC > > > > > > ==== ENG-CAMBRIDGESHIRE Mailing List ==== > > . > > > > > > ==== ENG-CAMBRIDGESHIRE Mailing List ==== > . >
Dear David, a chapman was a market trader (buyer or seller), the term was used until at least the 19th century and derives from 'cheap' = market (as in London's Cheapside). Pultrey was a fowl market (again, as in London's Poultry), the term is still used for such birds when bred or marketed. Boucherie was more usually applied to slaughterhouses ('shambles') than shops but nonetheless the latter is probably likely in this case. Regards, other David. ----- Original Message ----- From: "David Foster" <Gardenridgeca@netscape.net> To: <ENG-CAMBRIDGESHIRE-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Sunday, June 27, 2004 4:43 PM Subject: [ENG-CAMB] Saffron Walden > Hi, > > I'm hoping someone can explain a notation I've discovered on a map of > Medieval Saffron Waldon. The map shows the layout of the old town > market. Eight areas are set out in small blocks with a key: Le > Draperie; Tanner's Row; Chapman's Row; fyshe Row; Cordwainers Row; Cloth > Row; Le Boucherie; Pultrey Hill. Most are obvious but the one's I'm > curious about are Chapman, Le Boucherie, and Pultrey Hill. Can anyone > explain these "trades"? > > Dave in Victoria BC > > > ==== ENG-CAMBRIDGESHIRE Mailing List ==== > . >
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A Cordwainer was a high class shoe-maker using "Cordovan", a very high-class, genteel, fine quality [expensive !] leather from Cordovan in Spain. Bye the bye, a cobbler is not a shoe/boot maker ~ he is a shoe/boot repairer/mender, hence shoemaker & cobbler. A Chapman is/was a travelling door-to-door salesman of trinkets, ribbons, pins & the like ~ a pedlar or in Yorkshire dialect ~ a Higgler. Geoff Lewin BLAXALL [Hextable, Kent, S.E. England] NWKentFam.Hist.Society #3593. http://GeoffBlaxall.tripod.com All mail protected by Norton AV.
Hi Looking for any info on Arthur Edward Cutchey. He was born around 1860-70 (I think) in Soham. Does anyone know anything of this family. They seem to be quite elusive even with such an unusual name. Karen
Hello I just been putting some of my finds of the 1901 census on to computer & there has been Cordwainers as Occupation which has been crossed out & Shoe/Bootmaker there I know that my ancestors who I am putting in where Shoemakers this has happen on 2 or 3 different census so it not all on the same household so I think that it has to do with being a cobbler Regards Janice ----- Original Message ----- From: "David Foster" <Gardenridgeca@netscape.net> To: <ENG-CAMBRIDGESHIRE-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Sunday, June 27, 2004 4:43 PM Subject: [ENG-CAMB] Saffron Walden > Hi, > > I'm hoping someone can explain a notation I've discovered on a map of > Medieval Saffron Waldon. The map shows the layout of the old town > market. Eight areas are set out in small blocks with a key: Le > Draperie; Tanner's Row; Chapman's Row; fyshe Row; Cordwainers Row; Cloth > Row; Le Boucherie; Pultrey Hill. Most are obvious but the one's I'm > curious about are Chapman, Le Boucherie, and Pultrey Hill. Can anyone > explain these "trades"? > > Dave in Victoria BC > > > ==== ENG-CAMBRIDGESHIRE Mailing List ==== > . >
Le Boucherie is French for butchers. I do not know the others, possibly pultrey for Poultry, and a chapeau is French for Hat, maybe Hat Man? Regards Kay -----Original Message----- From: David Foster [mailto:Gardenridgeca@netscape.net] Sent: 27 June 2004 16:43 To: ENG-CAMBRIDGESHIRE-L@rootsweb.com Subject: [ENG-CAMB] Saffron Walden Hi, I'm hoping someone can explain a notation I've discovered on a map of Medieval Saffron Waldon. The map shows the layout of the old town market. Eight areas are set out in small blocks with a key: Le Draperie; Tanner's Row; Chapman's Row; fyshe Row; Cordwainers Row; Cloth Row; Le Boucherie; Pultrey Hill. Most are obvious but the one's I'm curious about are Chapman, Le Boucherie, and Pultrey Hill. Can anyone explain these "trades"? Dave in Victoria BC ==== ENG-CAMBRIDGESHIRE Mailing List ==== .
Hi Karen Think I have found the family for you in 1871, but on Ancestry it has been transcribed as CHURCHY, I will send you a copy of the page to your email address as an attachment. Best wishes Tracey (Leicestershire) ----- Original Message ----- From: "Karen Mulvey" <karen@spreadtheword.com.au> To: <ENG-CAMBRIDGESHIRE-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Sunday, June 27, 2004 2:14 PM Subject: [ENG-CAMB] ARTHUR EDWARD CUTCHEY > Hi > > Looking for any info on Arthur Edward Cutchey. He was born around 1860-70 (I > think) in Soham. Does anyone know anything of this family. They seem to be > quite elusive even with such an unusual name. > > Karen > > > ==== ENG-CAMBRIDGESHIRE Mailing List ==== > . > >
Hello I was wondering if anyone could help me, or have some suggests. I have a Hannah Barnes nee Poulter (also formerly Murkin/Merkin) now I have her marriage to a Henry Murkin/Merkin in 1875 her age given as 19 she given as daughter of John Poulter Butcher she was in Dalham Suffolk for this marriage. On the 1881 census she is at home with parents & two children given as a Widow born Kirtling Cambridgeshire. She marries James Barnes (of Bradfield St George Suffolk born 16th Nov 1859 Bapt 1st Apr 1860) they marry 10th Aug 1884 Parish St George Bloomsbury Middlesex her age is given as 27. On the 1891 census the family are at 33 South Crescent Mews Pancras London (youngest daughter Julia being born June 1890) Hannah's age 33 born Camb James 32 born Sfk. Now on the 1901 census all the children are there plus two more the family are at 28a South Crescent Mews but the wife is given as Emma age 44 born Newmarket Camb James 42 born Bury St Edmunds Sfk. Now would you say that this is just a error on the 1901 census either name given wrong or written down wrong. I be grateful for any help Regards Janice
Hi, I'm hoping someone can explain a notation I've discovered on a map of Medieval Saffron Waldon. The map shows the layout of the old town market. Eight areas are set out in small blocks with a key: Le Draperie; Tanner's Row; Chapman's Row; fyshe Row; Cordwainers Row; Cloth Row; Le Boucherie; Pultrey Hill. Most are obvious but the one's I'm curious about are Chapman, Le Boucherie, and Pultrey Hill. Can anyone explain these "trades"? Dave in Victoria BC
CHAMBERLAIN family of Thorney, Cambridgeshire. c.1800 Dear Listers, I am looking for any connections to a WILLIAM CHAMBERLAIN married to ANN MEADOWS on 22.10.1807 at THORNEY, Cambridgeshire. We would be very pleased to share any information if you see a connection. Kindest regards. Derek in Tasmania, Australia.
Hi Elizabeth: I'm sure you already have these but they weren't crossed off my list so am sending them. Wisbech St. Mary, LDS FHL Film 1040586 Bap #1069 5.4.1832 Richard OLDHAM s/o Charles and Mary [MURLEY] OLDHAM of Tholomas Drove, Farmer Bap #1150 [no other date] Stephen OLDMAN [OLDHAM - see parents] s/o Charles and Mary [MURLEY] Bap #1231 1.1.1836 Elizabeth d/o Charles & Mary OLDHAM, Tholomas Drove, Farmer Bap #1318 27.5.1838 Hannah Baker d/o Charles & Mary OLDHAM Carol
Hi Liane: I'm almost positive you already have this marriage from your own research - and I may have sent it before although it isn't crossed off the register list I made: Wisbech St. Mary, LDS FHL Film 1040586 Marr #166 10.6.1794 Joseph DE BOO Widower and Sarah DAWSON, by Banns, by Wm MACK, Curate Carol