Hello everyone, Can anyone give me the address for the North Hamptonshire List? I am interested in Ailsworth and Peterborough. I have found one for Northants...would this be an abbreviation of North Hamptonshire? Many thanks, Mary, Lower Hutt NZ Researching HAWKINS, FODEN, WOOLLASTON

Hubert, Banbury is actually in Oxfordshire - if such a "dark blue" place can be mentioned here the home of the "light blues" (Think of the Boat Race!) See http://cookfmly.rootsweb.com/banbury/ for more information. N'hants is an abbreviation for Northamptonshire, Northants is the more commonly accepted form. See Multimap at http://www.multimap.com/map/browse.cgi?client=public&X=450000.128705223&Y=250000.890396199&width=500&height=300&gride=445473.128705223&gridn=240696.890396199&srec=0&coordsys=gb&db=freegaz&addr1=&addr2=&addr3=&pc=&advanced=&local=&localinfosel=&kw=&inmap=&table=&ovtype=&zm=1&scale=200000 for the location. You will note that the Northants Border runs just a mile or so to the east of Banbury. A general point to those in the New World; Generally if a place has "shire" (pronounced sheer) it is a County. There are a few exceptions such as Devon, Dorset, Essex, Kent, Norfolk, Middlesex, Suffolk, Surrey, to name a few. The abbreviations such as Cambs for Cambridgeshire came about to save having to write the county name in full for postal purposes. See http://www.genuki.org.uk/big/Regions/England.html for the abbreviated forms of English Counties. This page also lists the changes to county administration of 1965 and 1974 and it's effects. For genealogical purposes the old traditional counties are the ones that are used - thus records for Peterborough are found at Northampton even though post 1974 the City was part of Cambs. Regards John R G Bland Born in Northants raised in Hunts and Cambs (without moving) and living in Lincs ----- Original Message ----- From: "hff" <flt1469@bellsouth.net> To: <ENG-CAMBRIDGESHIRE-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Monday, July 26, 2004 9:30 PM Subject: [ENG-CAMB] INFORMATION > IS NORTHAMPTONSHIRE ,the same place > as N,HANTS that is near BANBURY? > Hubert usa > > > ==== ENG-CAMBRIDGESHIRE Mailing List ==== > . >

Yes Banbury is not that far from Northamptonshire I believe it is in Oxfordshire Regards Janice ----- Original Message ----- From: "hff" <flt1469@bellsouth.net> To: <ENG-CAMBRIDGESHIRE-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Monday, July 26, 2004 9:30 PM Subject: [ENG-CAMB] INFORMATION > IS NORTHAMPTONSHIRE ,the same place > as N,HANTS that is near BANBURY? > Hubert usa > > > ==== ENG-CAMBRIDGESHIRE Mailing List ==== > . >

John, Thanks for the response. I will save your email for future reference. Rich

Tony, I can access census returns for the South Holland area - Spalding,Holbeach etc but not much further into the County. Whereabouts are you looking? Do you have ages for these brothers. Could they have died? As regards Ellen she married George at St Edwards, Cambridge on 5 August 1816 per IGI. She was a FRANCES. Obviously the entry needs verification but it appears that she was from Saffron Walden Essex and was widowed at the time of her marriage. Her daughter was born there c1806. Regards John ----- Original Message ----- From: "Tony Simpson" <AnthonyJ.Simpson@btinternet.com> To: <ENG-CAMBRIDGESHIRE-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Monday, July 26, 2004 7:30 PM Subject: Re: [ENG-CAMB] Cambridge 1841 census lookup request > John, > Just a remote possibility that Ellen might have been an older > sister or other family member ? > If you have access to Lincolnshire records I would appreciate your help > concerning Thomas William SCRAFIELD and his brother John William, both of > whom were living in Cambridge about 1841, no trace of them subsequently. > Could they have returned to Lincs where they had family connections ? > > Regards, Tony > > > > ==== ENG-CAMBRIDGESHIRE Mailing List ==== > . >

John, Just a remote possibility that Ellen might have been an older sister or other family member ? If you have access to Lincolnshire records I would appreciate your help concerning Thomas William SCRAFIELD and his brother John William, both of whom were living in Cambridge about 1841, no trace of them subsequently. Could they have returned to Lincs where they had family connections ? Regards, Tony

The list details can be found here: http://lists.rootsweb.com/index/intl/ENG/NORTHANTS.html Yes - Northants is the abbreviation. The county name is Northamptonshire - all one word. On Tue, 27 Jul 2004 05:15:55 +1200, Mary Woollaston <m.woollaston@xtra.co.nz> wrote: > Hello everyone, > Can anyone give me the address for the North Hamptonshire List? I am interested in Ailsworth and Peterborough. I have found one for Northants...would this be an abbreviation of North Hamptonshire? > Many thanks, > Mary, Lower Hutt NZ > Researching HAWKINS, FODEN, WOOLLASTON > > ==== ENG-CAMBRIDGESHIRE Mailing List ==== > .. > >

Hi Tony Thanks for these. Ellen is obviously the wife(verified in 1851) and perhaps Thomas, Samuel and Joseph are sons. The latter two names have been used elsewhere in this family. This request has confirmed for me that this George is the same one as that mentioned in his mother's Will (Ann Woolley, Widow of Market Deeping - should anyone be looking at the archives). As he and Ann appear to have married in 1816 he cannot be the same George Woolley who was producing children in Spalding, Lincs until his wife died in 1818. That was the purpose of the request - to find possible children for this stray branch is icing on the cake! Regards John > John, > Listed under the same reference is Ellen Woolley age 55. Possible > family connection in Leverington: > Thomas Woolley, 30, Samuel Woolley 20, both listed under HO/107/ 78/5/f.6B > > Yet another Woolley, one Joseph aged 25, listed at the University, HO/107 / > 87/7/ f2B > > Hope that this will help . Tony. > > > > ==== ENG-CAMBRIDGESHIRE Mailing List ==== > . >

IS NORTHAMPTONSHIRE ,the same place as N,HANTS that is near BANBURY? Hubert usa

I am trying to sort PLOWRIGHT families found on the 1841 census and especially the ones living in March and Elm, hoping to find the parents of my Henry b 1823. He married Mary Ann CROSS Upwell, St Peter's 1850 and they were in the USA by June of 1850. His father was also named Henry. Can someone tell me about the following: Heny (Henry?) 20 March HO107/81/10 5A PLOWRIGHT(s) Elm.......HO107/78/2 5B PLOWRIGHT (s) Elm.......HO 107/78/2 10A PLOWRIGHT(s) March.....HO 107/81/13 13 B Mary Jane Adams

This list of lists is worth bookmarking http://lists.rootsweb.com/index/intl/ENG/ Yes Northants does refer to Northamptonshire. Hants is the abbr. for Hampshire, goodness knows why, but that's english for you! Paul DIXON, in Ontario, Canada Researching DAWSON & UTTLEY in Sheffield/Rotherham SHAW in Staffs. & N Yorks. WAKELIN, BOTTRILL GAMBLE,in Leics. & N Yorks., BISHOP, PEACOCK in Cambridge CAPEL, NOKE(S)/NOAK in Berkshire DIXON, CAPEL, JORDAN, SURREY, LAMBARTH, DUFFY, Y(E)ATES in London.

Does anyone have access to the Trumpington PRs? I am trying to locate a Margaret HANCHETT who married 'my' Thomas COLLIS in Orwell in December 1705. She is described as 'of Trumpington' Any information appreciated. Phil Cox

John, Listed under the same reference is Ellen Woolley age 55. Possible family connection in Leverington: Thomas Woolley, 30, Samuel Woolley 20, both listed under HO/107/ 78/5/f.6B Yet another Woolley, one Joseph aged 25, listed at the University, HO/107 / 87/7/ f2B Hope that this will help . Tony.

Not family history but might interest some of you. Not telling which is my village. A part of a poem by Rupert Brooke: God! I will pack, and take a train, And get me to England once again! For England's the one land, I know, Where men with Splendid Hearts may go; And Cambridgeshire, of all England, The shire for Men who Understand; And of THAT district I prefer The lovely hamlet Grantchester. For Cambridge people rarely smile, Being urban, squat, and packed with guile; And Royston men in the far South Are black and fierce and strange of mouth; At Over they fling oaths at one, And worse than oaths at Trumpington, And Ditton girls are mean and dirty, And there's none in Harston under thirty, And folks in Shelford and those parts Have twisted lips and twisted hearts, And Barton men make Cockney rhymes, And Coton's full of nameless crimes, And things are done you'd not believe At Madingley on Christmas Eve. Strong men have run for miles and miles, When one from Cherry Hinton smiles; Strong men have blanched, and shot their wives, Rather than send them to St. Ives; Strong men have cried like babes, bydam, To hear what happened at Babraham. But Grantchester! ah, Grantchester! There's peace and holy quiet there, Great clouds along pacific skies, And men and women with straight eyes, Lithe children lovelier than a dream, A bosky wood, a slumbrous stream, And little kindly winds that creep Round twilight corners, half asleep. In Grantchester their skins are white; They bathe by day, they bathe by night; The women there do all they ought; The men observe the Rules of Thought. They love the Good; they worship Truth; They laugh uproariously in youth; (And when they get to feeling old, They up and shoot themselves, I'm told)... Rupert Brooke 1912 --------------------------------- ALL-NEW Yahoo! Messenger - all new features - even more fun!

Cookie I managed to scour the 1861 for Oakington and Longstanton, but they are both devoid of COOK names. Can you let me know if anyone has yet managed Cottenham (the biggest) and if no one has, then I will attempt over the next few days. It would be useful to know where they were on the 1871 census, which would give a starting point. Paul (Nottingham, UK) Cambs interests: Chapman & Lord (Sawston) I use ARCHIVE CD BOOKS - A project to reproduce old books on CD for genealogists and pay for the restoration of books in Record Offices, Libraries, etc. Mailing list: cdbooks@british-genealogy.com (for discussions) Weekly News: cdbooks-news@british-genealogy.com (weekly announcements & news) E-mail: enquiries@archivecdbooks.org Web: http://www.archivecdbooks.org -----Original Message----- From: GreystokeB@aol.com [mailto:GreystokeB@aol.com] Sent: 22 July 2004 15:27 To: ENG-CAMBRIDGESHIRE-L@rootsweb.com Subject: [ENG-CAMB] (no subject) Hello to the list... If possible, could SKS look up in the 1861-1871 censuses the family of William and Martha COOK, in Cottenham, Oakington, or Longstanton. He was born ca. 1797 (+ or -), in Bedfordshire. I send my thanks and gratitude in advance. Cookie, Florida, USA << GreystokeB@aol.com >> ==== ENG-CAMBRIDGESHIRE Mailing List ==== .

My WEBB's start with Elizabeth (b 1737 Histon) her parents were Robert WEBB & Elizabeth BURTON (m 1734 Girton). So far that's all I know about my WEBBs, its possible that they are related but at this time who knows, if I find a connection I will contact you. Happy Hunting Many thanks John J.Bridgeman@BTInternet.Com I use Archive CD Books to help with my research http://www.archivecdbooks.org. ----- Original Message ----- From: <Richward8166@aol.com> To: <ENG-CAMBRIDGESHIRE-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Saturday, July 24, 2004 7:17 PM Subject: Re: [ENG-CAMB] My Interests > John, > > I have a Webb line in Cambridge. It's not much but here it is: > > Elizabeth Webb born about 1774. > > She married William Japes, born 1775, Impington, Cambridgeshire. The marriage > took place on 5 Jan. 1797 at St. Mary Le Strand, Westminster, London. > > They raised their family in Stow Cum Quy, Cambridgeshire. I have been unable > to determine the parent's of Elizabeth. I'm assuming she is from > Cambridgeshire but I'm not sure what town, Quy, Impington or thereabouts. > > Elizabeth died on 22 May 1841 Stow Cum Quy. > > Can you make a connection to my Webb? > > Rich Ward > > Frederick, Maryland > > > ==== ENG-CAMBRIDGESHIRE Mailing List ==== > . > >

Hi I am looking for sks who could find the following in the 1841 census. George Woolley aged 50 Cambridge St Mary the Great HO107/86/11 8B I suspect that George may have wandered south from Spalding. If he is not alone, could I please have the other members of the household. If he managed to produce family, I have his mother's Will showing him as a carpenter in Cambridge in 1836 and details of his brothers and parents. I am more than willing to undertake any Spalding area look ups in exchange. Regards John R G Bland

Hi Colin, Edward Munns born Hun. Holywell, is shown on the 1851 census in Caxton as a 30 year old apprentice to David Buck Cordwainer, obviously the same trade, could be your man. Ron Birchall. Elsworth, Cambridgeshire. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Colin Baldwin" <cbaldwin@globalnet.co.uk> To: <ENG-CAMBRIDGESHIRE-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Saturday, July 24, 2004 12:34 PM Subject: [ENG-CAMB] 1851 Census - Caxton > Does anyone have access to the 1851 census for Caxton? > > I am looking for my 2x gt grandfather Edward MUNNS who was a > shoemaker, born in 1823 in Holywell Huntingdonshire. I have seen on an > 1851 census index for Cambridgeshire that there was an Edward Munns > recorded in Caxton. and I would much appreciate the details of that > entry to see if he is 'mine'. > > If anyone can help me in this I would most grateful. > > Many thanks > > Colin Baldwin (in Manchester) > > > > ==== ENG-CAMBRIDGESHIRE Mailing List ==== > . > >

I am trying to find a man called Verdun Hodkins or Hodgkin born c 1880. He was either in Burnham Overy area or Amptill, Beds. Is there anyone out there who has connections with these names Thanks Eunice Goude

Dear John: I don't have the 1841 census either, but were you aware that there was another Woolley on the same page of the census? WOOLLEY Ellen 55 Cambridge St Mary the Great HO107/86/11 8B Ellen and George are the only Woolleys in Cambridge St. Mary the Great. Was Ellen a sibling, do you know, or could this be his wife? Judy Dear in the USA -----Original Message----- From: John Bland [mailto:johnbland@parkavenue36.freeserve.co.uk] Sent: Saturday, July 24, 2004 3:54 PM To: ENG-CAMBRIDGESHIRE-L@rootsweb.com Subject: [ENG-CAMB] Cambridge 1841 census lookup request Hi I am looking for sks who could find the following in the 1841 census. George Woolley aged 50 Cambridge St Mary the Great HO107/86/11 8B I suspect that George may have wandered south from Spalding. If he is not alone, could I please have the other members of the household. If he managed to produce family, I have his mother's Will showing him as a carpenter in Cambridge in 1836 and details of his brothers and parents. I am more than willing to undertake any Spalding area look ups in exchange. Regards John R G Bland ==== ENG-CAMBRIDGESHIRE Mailing List ==== .