Dear Cameron, I don't have the NBI index, but in 1851 there were such a lot of Noyes living in Eling that I should be very surprised if they were not buried in the large cemetery across Bartley Water from the tide mill(there was also a Noyce variation locally). The church is that of St. Mary the Virgin but usually known simply as Eling Church, I don't know if contacting them will get a response but their telephone number is 023-8086-6426. Regards, David ----- Original Message ----- From: "Cameron Bryant" <cbryant@lon.imag.net> To: <ENG-CAMBRIDGESHIRE-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Tuesday, October 05, 2004 11:54 PM Subject: [ENG-CAMB] National Burial Index > Hello, > > I have a request for SKS. For a long time I've been looking for my Noyes family, but I don't know where any of them are buried. I've sent individual requests of certain individuals in the family to people with the NBI, but to no avail. I was wondering if anyone could send me a list of the Noyes' on the NBI. I know that it's a large request, but I'd be very grateful to anyone who would undertake it. > > Best Regards, > > Cameron Bryant > > > ==== ENG-CAMBRIDGESHIRE Mailing List ==== > . > >

Hello, I have a request for SKS. For a long time I've been looking for my Noyes family, but I don't know where any of them are buried. I've sent individual requests of certain individuals in the family to people with the NBI, but to no avail. I was wondering if anyone could send me a list of the Noyes' on the NBI. I know that it's a large request, but I'd be very grateful to anyone who would undertake it. Best Regards, Cameron Bryant

My family names have increased somewhat of late. ANDREWS Newmarket FULLER Isleham STOFER/STOPHER Newmarket BLUNDELL Wissett WHITING STAPLES KING Isleham COOPER Newmarket, previously Barrow SPARKE Isleham BROWN Isleham All in the 19thc Judith Stichbury New Zealand

Philip, I suspect that there may be a relationship here as I see that there are other members of this group in Guilden Morden. I am sending you a tree separately for your information but, interestingly, as well as the step parent relationship between the William CLARK and Joseph RIDER that I mentioned, this family is also related directly to the RIDERs through their connection to the FROST family further back in the tree. Cheers -- Robyn Smith -- Sydney, Australia Listowner ENG-CAMBRIDGESHIRE, ENGLISH-FENS at www.Rootsweb.com List admin ENG-CAMBRIDGESHIRE, GEN-WebDesign, OPC-CAM-Little-Shelford, OPC-CAM-Brinkley, OPC-DEV-Bickington at www.British-Genealogy.com Family History Web Site http://www.robalsmith.id.au Little Shelford Web Site http://shelford.robalsmith.id.au/ ----- Original Message ----- From: "Philip West" <Philip@midholm1.fsnet.co.uk> To: <ENG-CAMBRIDGESHIRE-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Sunday, October 03, 2004 9:56 PM Subject: Re: [ENG-CAMB] 1861 Lookup Please CLARK - Guilden Morden > Hi Robyn > > I do indeed have a William Clark in my tree, who is James's grandfather. I > do not have any details about him, but I would estimate he would have been > born around 1760-1770. I have not yet found a link to the Rider family, > but > the timescale could fit. > > I'll keep looking. > > Philip > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Robyn Smith" <rlsmith@robalsmith.id.au> > To: <ENG-CAMBRIDGESHIRE-L@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Monday, September 27, 2004 12:25 AM > Subject: RE: [ENG-CAMB] 1861 Lookup Please CLARK - Guilden Morden > > >> This is a case of synchronicity! >> >> I was transcribing a will for one Joseph RIDER (1746-1810) of Little >> Shelford last night and he mentioned his step-son William CLARK of >> (space) >> Morden as a beneficiary. I would be interested to hear about how (if) >> this >> William CLARK is related to the people on this census entry. >> >> Cheers -- Robyn Smith -- Sydney, Australia >> Listowner ENG-CAMBRIDGESHIRE, ENGLISH-FENS at www.Rootsweb.com >> List admin ENG-CAMBRIDGESHIRE, GEN-WebDesign, OPC-CAM-Little-Shelford, >> OPC-CAM-Brinkley, OPC-DEV-Bickington at www.British-Genealogy.com >> Family History Web Site http://www.robalsmith.id.au >> Little Shelford Web Site http://shelford.robalsmith.id.au/ >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: Paula Patterson [mailto:pmlp@malwa.plus.com] >> Sent: Monday, September 27, 2004 8:01 AM >> To: ENG-CAMBRIDGESHIRE-L@rootsweb.com >> Subject: Re: [ENG-CAMB] 1861 Lookup Please CLARK - Guilden Morden >> >> Philip >> >> Can't help with 1861 census but can supply the 1871 & 1891 census entries >> which seem to have some of the answers you want.. >> >> 1871 census: >> James CLARK Head 39 b Guilden Morden, Cambridgeshire, England Emma CLARK >> Wife 36 b Guilden Morden, Cambridgeshire, England Elizabeth CLARK Daur 18 > b >> Guilden Morden, Cambridgeshire, England Mary A CLARK Daur 13 b Guilden >> Morden, Cambridgeshire, England Fanny CLARK Daur 11 b Guilden Morden, >> Cambridgeshire, England Frederick J CLARK Son 9 b Guilden Morden, >> Cambridgeshire, England Thomas CLARK Son 9 b Guilden Morden, > Cambridgeshire, >> England Eliza CLARK Daur 6 b Guilden Morden, Cambridgeshire, England >> Montford G CLARK Son 2 b Guilden Morden, Cambridgeshire, England >> >> The Baulk, Biggleswade, Bedfordshire >> William CLARKE Head Mar 35 Grocer's porter b Biggleswade, Beds Selina > CLARKE >> Wife Mar 33 b Potton, Beds >> Elizabeth CLARKE Daur 7 b Biggleswade, Beds >> Selina CLARKE Neice(sic) Unmar 14 Visitor b Guilden Morden, Cambs >> >> >> The census entry would tend to make you think that the marriage of James >> & >> Emma was before or around 1852. >> Camdex http://www2.cambridgeshire.gov.uk/db/ridmars.nsf/search?OpenForm >> has 2 marriages which took place in Guilden Morden around this time (you > can >> tell the parish as the reference number has 082 which refers to GM). >> 1852 James CLARK m Jane BROWN (which accounts for the other James CLARK & >> family in GM in the 1871 census) >> 1853 James CLARK m Emma BAULK >> >> This ties in quite nicely with the 1891 census which has: >> Church Road, Guilden Morden >> James CLARK Head M 59 Agricultural labourer b G Morden, Cambridgeshire > Emma >> CLARK Wife M 55 b G Morden, Cambridgeshire Emma Jane CLARK Daur S 14 b G >> Morden, Cambridgeshire William Paul CLARK Son S 11 b G Morden, >> Cambridgeshire Samuel BAULK Father in law Widr 82 b G Morden, > Cambridgeshire >> >> and the CFHS site http://www.cfhs.org.uk/Search.html >> has a 5 year old Emma BAULK in the 1841 census with her parents Samuel & >> Mary BAULK and >> 15 year old Emma BAULK in the 1851 census with her parents Samuel & Mary >> BAULK >> >> HTH >> >> Paula >> >> >> >> >> >> >> ==== ENG-CAMBRIDGESHIRE Mailing List ==== . >> >> >> >> >> >> >> ==== ENG-CAMBRIDGESHIRE Mailing List ==== >> . >> > > > ==== ENG-CAMBRIDGESHIRE Mailing List ==== > . > ==== ENG-CAMBRIDGESHIRE Mailing List ==== .

Hi David, I suspect that it is a transcription error in the 1901 census. (or they lied) Bob. ----- Original Message ----- From: "David DOWD" <david.dowd@tesco.net> To: <ENG-CAMBRIDGESHIRE-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Tuesday, October 05, 2004 12:46 AM Subject: Re: [ENG-CAMB] Re:1891 census > Dear Bob, > Oops, but in any case the 1874 P.O. Directory for Essex doesn't recognise > Hilton as a place-name. > Regards, David > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Bob Ollier" <bollier@optushome.com.au> > To: <ENG-CAMBRIDGESHIRE-L@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Monday, October 04, 2004 11:42 AM > Subject: [ENG-CAMB] Re:1891 census > > > > Thank you David, > > > > It was Hilton in Essex that I couldn't find. Perhaps it's one of those > places that's changed it's name over the years. > > > > > > ==== ENG-CAMBRIDGESHIRE Mailing List ==== > > . > > > > > > > > ==== ENG-CAMBRIDGESHIRE Mailing List ==== > . >

Hi David, Thank a lot for the census page. If you mean the image for 1901, the answer has to be yes, please. In the 1871 census Arthur Willers would be about 17 years old and probably unmarried, if you could find him in that it would hopefully give me his parents names and verify his birth place. So, yes I would appreciate that too. Many thanks. Bob in Oz.

Ancestry subscribers have access to a name index. Who do you want to find, what age approx in 1891 and do you know where born ? Keith ----- Original Message ----- From: "Bob Ollier" <bollier@optushome.com.au> To: <ENG-CAMBRIDGESHIRE-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Monday, October 04, 2004 8:17 PM Subject: [ENG-CAMB] 1891 census > Hi all, > > Is the 1891 census still only searchable by address or can it now be searched by surname? > > Thanks > > Bob in Oz > > > ==== ENG-CAMBRIDGESHIRE Mailing List ==== > . > >

Thank you David, It was Hilton in Essex that I couldn't find. Perhaps it's one of those places that's changed it's name over the years.

Thank you Susie for the additional information. It all helps. Bob in Oz

Hello again Paula, This could be they. The Teversham comes from the 1901 census so I'll see where Teversham is in relation to Little Hinton. Also according to the 1901 census Florrie was born in Hilton, Essex but I'm unable to find a Hilton in Essex, but I could be on my way. Thank you very much. Bob in Oz

Thanks for trying Maureen. Bob in Oz.

I have a Thomas Clark b. abt 1740 m Elizabeth Rider 23/10/1770 Little Shelford, His brother William Clark bap 12/02/1732 m Alice Cornell 11/10/1757 at Little Shelford following his death in Jan 1767 Alice m Joseph Rider 28/11/1769 also at little Shelford. The William Clark mentioned in the Will of Joseph Rider is his step son the child of William Clark and Alice Cornell. Cheers Syd ----- Original Message ----- From: "Philip West" <Philip@midholm1.fsnet.co.uk> To: <ENG-CAMBRIDGESHIRE-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Sunday, October 03, 2004 9:56 PM Subject: Re: [ENG-CAMB] 1861 Lookup Please CLARK - Guilden Morden > Hi Robyn > > I do indeed have a William Clark in my tree, who is James's grandfather. I > do not have any details about him, but I would estimate he would have been > born around 1760-1770. I have not yet found a link to the Rider family, > but > the timescale could fit. > > I'll keep looking. > > Philip > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Robyn Smith" <rlsmith@robalsmith.id.au> > To: <ENG-CAMBRIDGESHIRE-L@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Monday, September 27, 2004 12:25 AM > Subject: RE: [ENG-CAMB] 1861 Lookup Please CLARK - Guilden Morden > > >> This is a case of synchronicity! >> >> I was transcribing a will for one Joseph RIDER (1746-1810) of Little >> Shelford last night and he mentioned his step-son William CLARK of >> (space) >> Morden as a beneficiary. I would be interested to hear about how (if) >> this >> William CLARK is related to the people on this census entry. >> >> Cheers -- Robyn Smith -- Sydney, Australia >> Listowner ENG-CAMBRIDGESHIRE, ENGLISH-FENS at www.Rootsweb.com >> List admin ENG-CAMBRIDGESHIRE, GEN-WebDesign, OPC-CAM-Little-Shelford, >> OPC-CAM-Brinkley, OPC-DEV-Bickington at www.British-Genealogy.com >> Family History Web Site http://www.robalsmith.id.au >> Little Shelford Web Site http://shelford.robalsmith.id.au/ >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: Paula Patterson [mailto:pmlp@malwa.plus.com] >> Sent: Monday, September 27, 2004 8:01 AM >> To: ENG-CAMBRIDGESHIRE-L@rootsweb.com >> Subject: Re: [ENG-CAMB] 1861 Lookup Please CLARK - Guilden Morden >> >> Philip >> >> Can't help with 1861 census but can supply the 1871 & 1891 census entries >> which seem to have some of the answers you want.. >> >> 1871 census: >> James CLARK Head 39 b Guilden Morden, Cambridgeshire, England Emma CLARK >> Wife 36 b Guilden Morden, Cambridgeshire, England Elizabeth CLARK Daur 18 > b >> Guilden Morden, Cambridgeshire, England Mary A CLARK Daur 13 b Guilden >> Morden, Cambridgeshire, England Fanny CLARK Daur 11 b Guilden Morden, >> Cambridgeshire, England Frederick J CLARK Son 9 b Guilden Morden, >> Cambridgeshire, England Thomas CLARK Son 9 b Guilden Morden, > Cambridgeshire, >> England Eliza CLARK Daur 6 b Guilden Morden, Cambridgeshire, England >> Montford G CLARK Son 2 b Guilden Morden, Cambridgeshire, England >> >> The Baulk, Biggleswade, Bedfordshire >> William CLARKE Head Mar 35 Grocer's porter b Biggleswade, Beds Selina > CLARKE >> Wife Mar 33 b Potton, Beds >> Elizabeth CLARKE Daur 7 b Biggleswade, Beds >> Selina CLARKE Neice(sic) Unmar 14 Visitor b Guilden Morden, Cambs >> >> >> The census entry would tend to make you think that the marriage of James >> & >> Emma was before or around 1852. >> Camdex http://www2.cambridgeshire.gov.uk/db/ridmars.nsf/search?OpenForm >> has 2 marriages which took place in Guilden Morden around this time (you > can >> tell the parish as the reference number has 082 which refers to GM). >> 1852 James CLARK m Jane BROWN (which accounts for the other James CLARK & >> family in GM in the 1871 census) >> 1853 James CLARK m Emma BAULK >> >> This ties in quite nicely with the 1891 census which has: >> Church Road, Guilden Morden >> James CLARK Head M 59 Agricultural labourer b G Morden, Cambridgeshire > Emma >> CLARK Wife M 55 b G Morden, Cambridgeshire Emma Jane CLARK Daur S 14 b G >> Morden, Cambridgeshire William Paul CLARK Son S 11 b G Morden, >> Cambridgeshire Samuel BAULK Father in law Widr 82 b G Morden, > Cambridgeshire >> >> and the CFHS site http://www.cfhs.org.uk/Search.html >> has a 5 year old Emma BAULK in the 1841 census with her parents Samuel & >> Mary BAULK and >> 15 year old Emma BAULK in the 1851 census with her parents Samuel & Mary >> BAULK >> >> HTH >> >> Paula >> >> >> >> >> >> >> ==== ENG-CAMBRIDGESHIRE Mailing List ==== . >> >> >> >> >> >> >> ==== ENG-CAMBRIDGESHIRE Mailing List ==== >> . >> > > > ==== ENG-CAMBRIDGESHIRE Mailing List ==== > . >

Hi Jan The Ancestry index for the 1871C shows two Harry SMITHS born in Whittlesey of around, but not exactly, the right age. One was already married and living in Northamptonshire, the other was unmarried and living with his parents, father's name William. I'll send you the image off list anyway so you can see what you think. Best wishes Viv ----- Original Message ----- From: "Doug & Jan Stapleton" <stapleton@iprimus.com.au> To: <ENG-CAMBRIDGESHIRE-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Monday, October 04, 2004 4:51 AM Subject: [ENG-CAMB] New to List researching SMITH

Thanks Keith and Maureen, I'm trying to find the name of the wife of Arthur WILLIS or WILLERS, he seems to have used both names. He was born about 1863 and should have a daughter aged about 4 with the name of Florrie or Florence. Arthur was born in Teversham according to the 1901 census and would be about 27 in 1891. Thanks so much, it would be excellent if he is listed. Bob in Oz.

Hi all, Is the 1891 census still only searchable by address or can it now be searched by surname? Thanks Bob in Oz

Dear Bob, Oops, but in any case the 1874 P.O. Directory for Essex doesn't recognise Hilton as a place-name. Regards, David ----- Original Message ----- From: "Bob Ollier" <bollier@optushome.com.au> To: <ENG-CAMBRIDGESHIRE-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Monday, October 04, 2004 11:42 AM Subject: [ENG-CAMB] Re:1891 census > Thank you David, > > It was Hilton in Essex that I couldn't find. Perhaps it's one of those places that's changed it's name over the years. > > > ==== ENG-CAMBRIDGESHIRE Mailing List ==== > . > >

Hi Jan The following is from the 1841 and 1851 censuses of Whittlesy. 1841 census HO107/82/4 Parish Whittlesey 14B / 15A Dwelling Delph Street Household William SMITH 41 Born Y Farmer Martha SMITH 35 Born Y William SMITH 16 Born Y Alice SMITH 8 Born Y Charlotte SMITH 5 Born Y Thomas SMITH 3 Born Y Reason [m] SMITH 3 mo Born Y Sophia DREWERY 13 Born Y F.S. 1851 census Parish WHITTLESEY HO 107/1765 101A Windmill Street William SMITH H M 51 Out of business as a farmer ?absent CAM Whittlesey Martha SMITH Wf M 44 CAM Whittlesey Charlotte SMITH D U 15 CAM Whittlesey Thomas SMITH S 13 CAM Whittlesey Reason SMITH S 10 CAM Whittlesey John SMITH S 7 CAM Whittlesey Harry SMITH S 2 CAM Whittlesey Emma SMITH D 2 mo CAM Whittlesey Hope this of some help. Alexandra Perth, Western Australia Quoting Doug & Jan Stapleton <stapleton@iprimus.com.au>: > Hello everyone, > > My name is Jan and I live in Brisbane... I have joined this list hoping to > find out more about my Harry SMITH.. > > Harry was the son of William SMITH ....who was a Hay Dealer and still alive > in 1877................ this I have from his wedding certificate to Mary Ann > STAPLETON nee CRAMPTON. in 1877..on which he states he was 26 years old which > would make his Birth 1851..This marriage took place in Stamford... > > 1881 census for London has Harry's age as 27 and his birth year as 1854 ... > and that he was born in Whittlesey. Cambridge... > > Harry and Mary Ann and Daughter Mary Ann and 4 Stapleton Children moved to > Australia in 1882.. > > That is all I have on Harry. > > Hoping to find someone who has Harry and Mary Ann in their Family...... > > Regards > Jan > > > ==== ENG-CAMBRIDGESHIRE Mailing List ==== > . > >

Hello everyone, My name is Jan and I live in Brisbane... I have joined this list hoping to find out more about my Harry SMITH.. Harry was the son of William SMITH ....who was a Hay Dealer and still alive in 1877................ this I have from his wedding certificate to Mary Ann STAPLETON nee CRAMPTON. in 1877..on which he states he was 26 years old which would make his Birth 1851..This marriage took place in Stamford... 1881 census for London has Harry's age as 27 and his birth year as 1854 ... and that he was born in Whittlesey. Cambridge... Harry and Mary Ann and Daughter Mary Ann and 4 Stapleton Children moved to Australia in 1882.. That is all I have on Harry. Hoping to find someone who has Harry and Mary Ann in their Family...... Regards Jan

Bob et al You have to be careful with the censuses - the info was collected (especially in cities) by an enumerator who spoke to whoever was at home or left a schedule if the home was empty. Anyone at home could give the necessary info and in some cases the enumerators asked neighbours if they hadn't got the schedule back. The schedule itself was a problem, of course, since a great many people were illiterate so again neighbours were often asked to help out. Then after they'd got the schedule back the enumerator copied the details onto the census return. You can see how much scope there was for mishearing, mistranscribing or mistaking the info needed in the return. Paula

Hi Bob , Arthur WILLERS Head M 27 Bricklayer's Labourer b Cherry Hinton , Camb. Emma Wife M 23 b as above Florrie Daug S 2 b as above Address : Fisher's Lane , Cherry Hinton , Cambidgeshire David Ferrie Dublin, Ireland -----Original Message----- From: Bob Ollier [mailto:bollier@optushome.com.au] Sent: 04 October 2004 09:07 To: ENG-CAMBRIDGESHIRE-L@rootsweb.com Subject: Re:1891 census Thanks Keith and Maureen, I'm trying to find the name of the wife of Arthur WILLIS or WILLERS, he seems to have used both names. He was born about 1863 and should have a daughter aged about 4 with the name of Florrie or Florence. Arthur was born in Teversham according to the 1901 census and would be about 27 in 1891. Thanks so much, it would be excellent if he is listed. Bob in Oz. ______________________________ --- Incoming mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.772 / Virus Database: 519 - Release Date: 01/10/2004 --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.772 / Virus Database: 519 - Release Date: 01/10/2004