This is the only marriage of a George Allpress (or similar spellings) that I can find in the relevant period: ALLPRESS George Year of Marriage: 1855 Reference: 332/C-MEAL1/80/1 District: ELY PIGOTT Sarah Year of Marriage: 1855 Reference: 332/C-MEAL1/80/2 District: ELY There is a George Allpress aged 18 in Wimblington in 1851, parents Robert and Hannah, plus some siblings. Estelle >Trying to find great grandfather, William Allpress born Cambridge ( from >1881,91 and 1901 Census City or County?) 1854/5, birth not on GRO. His >father was George. William married Harriet Markins in London 1873 and >spent the rest of his life in London.

This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ----3599237dff8433 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Thanks Estelle and Chris for offering up some helpful tidbits of information on Lilly Salisbury BULL and Alfred BULL. I didn't have any of that information before...so, thanks again. Ros in Canada --------------------- Here's Lily, living in Norwich and still unmarried in 1901: Lily S Bull 23 Cambridge, Cambridgeshire, England Servant Norwich Norfolk (cook) Mary E Pym 58 Norwich, Norfolk, England Head Norwich Norfolk Harriett F G Tindale 22 London, Middlesex, England Servant Norwich Norfolk -------------------- Have you got Alfred in 1871? He was boarding on Market Hill with an Eliza Smith. ----3599237dff8433 Content-Type: text/plain ENG-CAMBRIDGESHIRE-D Digest Volume 04 : Issue 374 Today's Topics: #1 Need help interpreting an Indentur ["mggirl" <mggirl@damask.plus.com>] #2 RE: [ENG-CAMB] Need help interpret ["Dawn Webb" <dawnwebb@optushome.co] #3 Re: [ENG-CAMB] Alfred BULL, Grocer [Estelle Wolfers <ewolfers@btintern] #4 Re: [ENG-CAMB] Alfred BULL, Grocer [Estelle Wolfers <ewolfers@btintern] #5 POULTER ["Janice Aitkens" <janice.aitkens1@] #6 Re: [ENG-CAMB] Need help interpret [John Phillips <denscanis@yahoo.co.] Administrivia: To unsubscribe from ENG-CAMBRIDGESHIRE-D, send a message to ENG-CAMBRIDGESHIRE-D-request@rootsweb.com that contains in the body of the message the command unsubscribe and no other text. No subject line is necessary, but if your software requires one, just use unsubscribe in the subject, too. To contact the ENG-CAMBRIDGESHIRE-D list administrator, send mail to ENG-CAMBRIDGESHIRE-admin@rootsweb.com. ______________________________ ----3599237dff8433 X-Message: #1 Date: Sun, 24 Oct 2004 21:16:47 +0100 From: "mggirl" <mggirl@damask.plus.com> To: ENG-CAMBRIDGESHIRE-L@rootsweb.com Message-ID: <000401c4ba06$63ccc1f0$4b3b9fd4@winxp> Subject: Need help interpreting an Indenture Content-Type: text/plain; charset="Windows-1252" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Dear Listers I've just realised I'm sat on a goldmine of information for my CHALLIS family from Sawston. Thicko that I am, I didn't realise that the Indenture my father has had for 20 years has the main characters of my 5xGr Grandparents as the main players - until tonight !! I've attempted to type up the document, putting question marks where I can't read the word, but it still doesn't make sense. Who can I talk to to put it into modern english for me ? The document is dated 1813 if that's any help. Sample paragraph : And Whereas the said Thomas Challis and Ann his wife being so ? and instilled as aforesaid and being mutually decisions of making some provision for their children to take effect after the respective deceases of them the said Thomas Challis and Ann his wife have therefore proposed and agreed to settle the said ? and promises to the ? and support the trusts hereinafter limited or declared of and ? ? the same and ? that view and for that purpose it is intended that a fine should be levied of the said premises as hereinafter mentioned now this indenture witnesseth that in pursuance of the said agreement and for ? the same and for and in the ? ? ? ? of the mutual love and affection the said Thomas Challis and Ann his wife have for their said children hereinafter respectively named and for and in ? of the sum of ten shillings of lawful money of Great Britain to the said Thomas Challis and Ann his wife at or before the execution of those ? Many thanks in advance Denise --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.782 / Virus Database: 528 - Release Date: 22/10/2004 ______________________________ ----3599237dff8433 X-Message: #2 Date: Mon, 25 Oct 2004 07:01:02 +1000 From: "Dawn Webb" <dawnwebb@optushome.com.au> To: ENG-CAMBRIDGESHIRE-L@rootsweb.com Message-ID: <000401c4ba0c$92787c00$e7a131d2@ibm> Subject: RE: [ENG-CAMB] Need help interpreting an Indenture Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit That sounds a bit like a will - and the terms "for love and affection" are still used here in Oz for transferring property between husband and wife and avoiding stamp duty. Usually in the case of a divorce property settlement, according to the banks, but also in other cases such as my husband and myself when he first started working for himself. The bank got rather annoyed as the wording made them assume we had divorced - which we hadn't - and not told them. I also suspect the fine on the property might mean rental. Dawn (Melbourne Australia) -----Original Message----- From: mggirl [mailto:mggirl@damask.plus.com] Sent: Monday, 25 October 2004 6:17 AM To: ENG-CAMBRIDGESHIRE-L@rootsweb.com Subject: [ENG-CAMB] Need help interpreting an Indenture Dear Listers I've just realised I'm sat on a goldmine of information for my CHALLIS family from Sawston. Thicko that I am, I didn't realise that the Indenture my father has had for 20 years has the main characters of my 5xGr Grandparents as the main players - until tonight !! I've attempted to type up the document, putting question marks where I can't read the word, but it still doesn't make sense. Who can I talk to to put it into modern english for me ? The document is dated 1813 if that's any help. Sample paragraph : And Whereas the said Thomas Challis and Ann his wife being so ? and instilled as aforesaid and being mutually decisions of making some provision for their children to take effect after the respective deceases of them the said Thomas Challis and Ann his wife have therefore proposed and agreed to settle the said ? and promises to the ? and support the trusts hereinafter limited or declared of and ? ? the same and ? that view and for that purpose it is intended that a fine should be levied of the said premises as hereinafter mentioned now this indenture witnesseth that in pursuance of the said agreement and for ? the same and for and in the ? ? ? ? of the mutual love and affection the said Thomas Challis and Ann his wife have for their said children hereinafter respectively named and for and in ? of the sum of ten shillings of lawful money of Great Britain to the said Thomas Challis and Ann his wife at or before the execution of those ? Many thanks in advance Denise --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.782 / Virus Database: 528 - Release Date: 22/10/2004 ==== ENG-CAMBRIDGESHIRE Mailing List ==== . ______________________________ ----3599237dff8433 X-Message: #3 Date: Sun, 24 Oct 2004 22:24:22 +0100 From: Estelle Wolfers <ewolfers@btinternet.com> To: ENG-CAMBRIDGESHIRE-L@rootsweb.com Message-Id: <5.2.1.1.2.20041024222152.00a4f670@mail.btinternet.com> Subject: Re: [ENG-CAMB] Alfred BULL, Grocer, b. 1847. Lilly Salsibury BULL, b. 1877, Cambridge Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Dear Ros, Have you got Alfred in 1871? He was boarding on Market Hill with an Eliza Smith. Estelle >Lilly's father was Alfred BULL, b. 1847 in Landbeach. ______________________________ ----3599237dff8433 X-Message: #4 Date: Sun, 24 Oct 2004 22:50:01 +0100 From: Estelle Wolfers <ewolfers@btinternet.com> To: ENG-CAMBRIDGESHIRE-L@rootsweb.com Message-Id: <5.2.1.1.2.20041024223000.00a4c0c0@mail.btinternet.com> Subject: Re: [ENG-CAMB] Alfred BULL, Grocer, b. 1847. Lilly Salsibury BULL, b. 1877, Cambridge Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Here's Lily, living in Norwich and still unmarried in 1901: Lily S Bull 23 Cambridge, Cambridgeshire, England Servant Norwich Norfolk (cook) Mary E Pym 58 Norwich, Norfolk, England Head Norwich Norfolk Harriett F G Tindale 22 London, Middlesex, England Servant Norwich Norfolk Estelle >I'm trying to track down one of my ancestors who was born in >Cambridgeshire: Lilly Salisbury BULL, b. 1877, Cambridge. ______________________________ ----3599237dff8433 X-Message: #5 Date: Sun, 24 Oct 2004 23:08:44 +0100 From: "Janice Aitkens" <janice.aitkens1@ntlworld.com> To: ENG-CAMBRIDGESHIRE-L@rootsweb.com Message-ID: <012f01c4ba16$0752f2e0$2eb40152@youraavqvqv7jc> Subject: POULTER Content-Type: text/plain; charset="Windows-1252" Hello I was wondering if anyone could help I have a Hannah POULTER born abt 1858 daughter of John Poulter Butcher, I have her on census giving Kirtling Cambridgeshire as birth place, she married a Henry MURKIN/MERKIN then in 1884 marrying James Barnes of Suffolk. I have them on the birth of my Nan in 1890 & 1891 census at 33 South Crescent Mews Pancras London, & in 1896 at 28 South Crescent Mews on the birth certificate of their son John. I have the family on the 1901 census still at 28 South Crescent Mews but it gives Emma as a wife born Newmarket. I have never yet found a birth for Hannah & I have tried to see if there is one for a Emma Poulter, so can any one help me try finding her birth also would I be right in thinking that Hannah & Emma are the same person just a error in the census as I have her down as Hannah on all other documents that I have obtain many thanks Regards Janice ______________________________ ----3599237dff8433 X-Message: #6 Date: Mon, 25 Oct 2004 08:41:54 +0100 (BST) From: John Phillips <denscanis@yahoo.co.uk> To: ENG-CAMBRIDGESHIRE-L@rootsweb.com Message-ID: <20041025074154.82457.qmail@web25002.mail.ukl.yahoo.com> Subject: Re: [ENG-CAMB] Need help interpreting an Indenture Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Hello Denise If you can send me a scanned copy of the document I'll have a go for you. I've been prctising on a lot of wills lately so I have my eye in! Regards John mggirl <mggirl@damask.plus.com> wrote: Dear Listers I've just realised I'm sat on a goldmine of information for my CHALLIS family from Sawston. Thicko that I am, I didn't realise that the Indenture my father has had for 20 years has the main characters of my 5xGr Grandparents as the main players - until tonight !! I've attempted to type up the document, putting question marks where I can't read the word, but it still doesn't make sense. Who can I talk to to put it into modern english for me ? The document is dated 1813 if that's any help. Sample paragraph : And Whereas the said Thomas Challis and Ann his wife being so ? and instilled as aforesaid and being mutually decisions of making some provision for their children to take effect after the respective deceases of them the said Thomas Challis and Ann his wife have therefore proposed and agreed to settle the said ? and promises to the ? and support the trusts hereinafter limited or declared of and ? ? the same and ? that view and for that purpose it is intended that a fine should be levied of the said premises as hereinafter mentioned now this indenture witnesseth that in pursuance of the said agreement and for ? the same and for and in the ? ? ? ? of the mutual love and affection the said Thomas Challis and Ann his wife have for their said children hereinafter respectively named and for and in ? of the sum of ten shillings of lawful money of Great Britain to the said Thomas Challis and Ann his wife at or before the execution of those ? Many thanks in advance Denise --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.782 / Virus Database: 528 - Release Date: 22/10/2004 ==== ENG-CAMBRIDGESHIRE Mailing List ==== . - ------------------------------- ALL-NEW Yahoo! Messenger - all new features - even more fun! ----3599237dff8433--

Sara, I have a slight interest in the Allpress surname. Several people of that name were witnesses to marriages of my direct family - surname KIRTON - in the village of Manea, Cambridgeshire. If you find a connection to Manea please contact me and I will send you the details. None of the Allpress witnesses were William or George. Happy Hunting Lin Herts UK ----- Original Message ----- From: "Sara COURTENAY" <sally@courtenay100.fsnet.co.uk> To: <ENG-CAMBRIDGESHIRE-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Monday, October 25, 2004 10:34 AM Subject: [ENG-CAMB] Allpress born Cambidge 1854/5 > Trying to find great grandfather, William Allpress born Cambridge ( from 1881,91 and 1901 Census City or County?) 1854/5, birth not on GRO. His father was George. William married Harriet Markins in London 1873 and spent the rest of his life in London. Any info welcome, thanks. Sally > > > ==== ENG-CAMBRIDGESHIRE Mailing List ==== > . >

Trying to find great grandfather, William Allpress born Cambridge ( from 1881,91 and 1901 Census City or County?) 1854/5, birth not on GRO. His father was George. William married Harriet Markins in London 1873 and spent the rest of his life in London. Any info welcome, thanks. Sally

Hello Denise If you can send me a scanned copy of the document I'll have a go for you. I've been prctising on a lot of wills lately so I have my eye in! Regards John mggirl <mggirl@damask.plus.com> wrote: Dear Listers I've just realised I'm sat on a goldmine of information for my CHALLIS family from Sawston. Thicko that I am, I didn't realise that the Indenture my father has had for 20 years has the main characters of my 5xGr Grandparents as the main players - until tonight !! I've attempted to type up the document, putting question marks where I can't read the word, but it still doesn't make sense. Who can I talk to to put it into modern english for me ? The document is dated 1813 if that's any help. Sample paragraph : And Whereas the said Thomas Challis and Ann his wife being so ? and instilled as aforesaid and being mutually decisions of making some provision for their children to take effect after the respective deceases of them the said Thomas Challis and Ann his wife have therefore proposed and agreed to settle the said ? and promises to the ? and support the trusts hereinafter limited or declared of and ? ? the same and ? that view and for that purpose it is intended that a fine should be levied of the said premises as hereinafter mentioned now this indenture witnesseth that in pursuance of the said agreement and for ? the same and for and in the ? ? ? ? of the mutual love and affection the said Thomas Challis and Ann his wife have for their said children hereinafter respectively named and for and in ? of the sum of ten shillings of lawful money of Great Britain to the said Thomas Challis and Ann his wife at or before the execution of those ? Many thanks in advance Denise --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.782 / Virus Database: 528 - Release Date: 22/10/2004 ==== ENG-CAMBRIDGESHIRE Mailing List ==== . --------------------------------- ALL-NEW Yahoo! Messenger - all new features - even more fun!

That sounds a bit like a will - and the terms "for love and affection" are still used here in Oz for transferring property between husband and wife and avoiding stamp duty. Usually in the case of a divorce property settlement, according to the banks, but also in other cases such as my husband and myself when he first started working for himself. The bank got rather annoyed as the wording made them assume we had divorced - which we hadn't - and not told them. I also suspect the fine on the property might mean rental. Dawn (Melbourne Australia) -----Original Message----- From: mggirl [mailto:mggirl@damask.plus.com] Sent: Monday, 25 October 2004 6:17 AM To: ENG-CAMBRIDGESHIRE-L@rootsweb.com Subject: [ENG-CAMB] Need help interpreting an Indenture Dear Listers I've just realised I'm sat on a goldmine of information for my CHALLIS family from Sawston. Thicko that I am, I didn't realise that the Indenture my father has had for 20 years has the main characters of my 5xGr Grandparents as the main players - until tonight !! I've attempted to type up the document, putting question marks where I can't read the word, but it still doesn't make sense. Who can I talk to to put it into modern english for me ? The document is dated 1813 if that's any help. Sample paragraph : And Whereas the said Thomas Challis and Ann his wife being so ? and instilled as aforesaid and being mutually decisions of making some provision for their children to take effect after the respective deceases of them the said Thomas Challis and Ann his wife have therefore proposed and agreed to settle the said ? and promises to the ? and support the trusts hereinafter limited or declared of and ? ? the same and ? that view and for that purpose it is intended that a fine should be levied of the said premises as hereinafter mentioned now this indenture witnesseth that in pursuance of the said agreement and for ? the same and for and in the ? ? ? ? of the mutual love and affection the said Thomas Challis and Ann his wife have for their said children hereinafter respectively named and for and in ? of the sum of ten shillings of lawful money of Great Britain to the said Thomas Challis and Ann his wife at or before the execution of those ? Many thanks in advance Denise --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.782 / Virus Database: 528 - Release Date: 22/10/2004 ==== ENG-CAMBRIDGESHIRE Mailing List ==== .

Hello I was wondering if anyone could help I have a Hannah POULTER born abt 1858 daughter of John Poulter Butcher, I have her on census giving Kirtling Cambridgeshire as birth place, she married a Henry MURKIN/MERKIN then in 1884 marrying James Barnes of Suffolk. I have them on the birth of my Nan in 1890 & 1891 census at 33 South Crescent Mews Pancras London, & in 1896 at 28 South Crescent Mews on the birth certificate of their son John. I have the family on the 1901 census still at 28 South Crescent Mews but it gives Emma as a wife born Newmarket. I have never yet found a birth for Hannah & I have tried to see if there is one for a Emma Poulter, so can any one help me try finding her birth also would I be right in thinking that Hannah & Emma are the same person just a error in the census as I have her down as Hannah on all other documents that I have obtain many thanks Regards Janice

Here's Lily, living in Norwich and still unmarried in 1901: Lily S Bull 23 Cambridge, Cambridgeshire, England Servant Norwich Norfolk (cook) Mary E Pym 58 Norwich, Norfolk, England Head Norwich Norfolk Harriett F G Tindale 22 London, Middlesex, England Servant Norwich Norfolk Estelle >I'm trying to track down one of my ancestors who was born in >Cambridgeshire: Lilly Salisbury BULL, b. 1877, Cambridge.

Dear Ros, Have you got Alfred in 1871? He was boarding on Market Hill with an Eliza Smith. Estelle >Lilly's father was Alfred BULL, b. 1847 in Landbeach.

Dear Listers I've just realised I'm sat on a goldmine of information for my CHALLIS family from Sawston. Thicko that I am, I didn't realise that the Indenture my father has had for 20 years has the main characters of my 5xGr Grandparents as the main players - until tonight !! I've attempted to type up the document, putting question marks where I can't read the word, but it still doesn't make sense. Who can I talk to to put it into modern english for me ? The document is dated 1813 if that's any help. Sample paragraph : And Whereas the said Thomas Challis and Ann his wife being so ? and instilled as aforesaid and being mutually decisions of making some provision for their children to take effect after the respective deceases of them the said Thomas Challis and Ann his wife have therefore proposed and agreed to settle the said ? and promises to the ? and support the trusts hereinafter limited or declared of and ? ? the same and ? that view and for that purpose it is intended that a fine should be levied of the said premises as hereinafter mentioned now this indenture witnesseth that in pursuance of the said agreement and for ? the same and for and in the ? ? ? ? of the mutual love and affection the said Thomas Challis and Ann his wife have for their said children hereinafter respectively named and for and in ? of the sum of ten shillings of lawful money of Great Britain to the said Thomas Challis and Ann his wife at or before the execution of those ? Many thanks in advance Denise --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.782 / Virus Database: 528 - Release Date: 22/10/2004

Hi, Listers I'm new to this list. My family connections are mostly with Norfolk but I'm trying to track down one of my ancestors who was born in Cambridgeshire: Lilly Salisbury BULL, b. 1877, Cambridge. Lilly's father was Alfred BULL, b. 1847 in Landbeach. In 1877, he married Catherine MORLEY, b. 1849, Dublin, Ireland but whose family ties were mostly with Norfolk. Catherine died in 1878, a year after Lilly was born. And, according to FreeBMD, June qtr. 1883, one Alfred BELL died, age 36, in Cambridge, 3b, 327. This explains why the 13-yr-old Lilly appears on the 1891 census for Kensington Road, Lakenham, Norwich, living with her widowed step-grandmother, Mary Ann MORLEY. Lilly's uncle, William MORLEY et al, lived just a couple of doors down. I've been trying to look for Lilly under her possible married name. On searching FreeBMD, a Mar 1894 marriage entry shows for Lilly. Possible grooms: Edward ROGERS or Thomas KNOWLSON. Barton Regis, Gloucestershire. If any of you have connections to the BULL/BELL/BALL, family of Landbeach, Cambridgeshire, I'd be very interested in hearing from you. And, if this helps, in 1881 Alfred BULL was boarding with the LAMB family of Cambridge. Alfred's occupation was listed as "Grocer." Looking forward to hearing from any fellow researchers. Ros Davies In Canada 1881 Census for Cambridge: ____________________________________________________ Name Relation Marital Status Gender Age Birthplace Occupation Disability Charles T. LAMB Head M Male 36 Tetbury, Gloucester, England Photo(grapher) Asst Mary J. LAMB Wife M Female 30 Spalding, Lincoln, England Elizabeth F. LAMB Daur Female 7 Cambridge, England Sch Gertrude J. LAMB Daur Female 4 Cambridge, England Sch Percis A. LAMB Daur Female 1 Cambridge, England Alfred BULL Lodger W Male 34 Landbeach, Cambridge, England Grocer Rebecca ODELL Servt U Female 17 Cambridge, England G Servt Charles E. MAY Lodger U Male 26 Frome, Somerset, England Undergrad Source Information: Dwelling 5 Regent Tere Census Place Cambridge, Cambridge, England Family History Library Film 1341399 Public Records Office Reference RG11 Piece / Folio 1669 / 17 Page Number 27

Hi Estelle, Yes thankyou this is them, I can now confirm that my 2x Gt Grandmother was from Bishop Stortford in Herts, the 1891 and 1901 show her as being born in Soham, which I knew was incorrect, and to make matters more confusing the 1881 had her birth place correct but had changed her Christian name to Marikret, so thanks very much for this. With Regards, Julie Webb. >From: Estelle Wolfers <ewolfers@btinternet.com> >Reply-To: ENG-CAMBRIDGESHIRE-L@rootsweb.com >To: ENG-CAMBRIDGESHIRE-L@rootsweb.com >Subject: Re: [ENG-CAMB] Jopson Family >Date: Sat, 23 Oct 2004 23:04:20 +0100 > >This them? > >Charles Jobson 25 Soham, Cambridgeshire, England Head Soham >Cambridgeshire >Jane Jobson 24 Bishop Norton, Hertfordshire, England Wife Soham >Cambridgeshire >John Jobson 5 Soham, Cambridgeshire, England Son Soham Cambridgeshire >William Jobson 7 Soham, Cambridgeshire, England Son Soham Cambridgeshire >John Beckworth 20 Soham, Cambridgeshire, England Lodger Soham >Cambridgeshire > >Estelle > > > >==== ENG-CAMBRIDGESHIRE Mailing List ==== >. > _________________________________________________________________ Express yourself with cool new emoticons http://www.msn.co.uk/specials/myemo

This them? Charles Jobson 25 Soham, Cambridgeshire, England Head Soham Cambridgeshire Jane Jobson 24 Bishop Norton, Hertfordshire, England Wife Soham Cambridgeshire John Jobson 5 Soham, Cambridgeshire, England Son Soham Cambridgeshire William Jobson 7 Soham, Cambridgeshire, England Son Soham Cambridgeshire John Beckworth 20 Soham, Cambridgeshire, England Lodger Soham Cambridgeshire Estelle

Hi Everyone, I wonder if sks could do a look up for me on the 1871 Census, I am looking for my 2x Gt Grandparents, Charles Butcher Jopson and Jane his Wife, it maybe possible that they are living in Soham and fairly newly married, Charles was born in 1844 in Newmarket and Jane was born in 1845 in Bishop Stortford. Thanks in advance. With Regards, Julie Webb, Soham Roots. _________________________________________________________________ Express yourself with cool new emoticons http://www.msn.co.uk/specials/myemo

On its way! >I presume this is the 1871 index from the age, How would I go about getting >a copy of the page with address of the family?

Thank you too Paula, I thought the family was small compared to the others I had found. Kind Regards Kay -----Original Message----- From: Paula Patterson [mailto:pmlp@malwa.plus.com] Sent: 23 October 2004 16:16 To: ENG-CAMBRIDGESHIRE-L@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [ENG-CAMB] Simkins/Maltpress ....but luckily she was with her parents in the 1861 census...... RG9/ Piece 1038 / Folio 106 / Page 9 High Street, Witcham James MALTPRESS Head Mar 43 b Witcham, Cambs Maria MALTPRESS Wife Mar 37 b Witcham, Cambs Elizabeth MALTPRESS Dau Un 16 b Witcham, Cambs Hannah MALTPRESS Dau Un 12 b Witcham, Cambs James MALTPRESS Son Un 10 b Witcham, Cambs Ellen MALTPRESS Dau Un 6 b Witcham, Cambs Rebecca MALTPRESS Dau Un 4 b Witcham, Cambs Emily MALTPRESS Dau Un 1 b Witcham, Cambs Miles SISSON Lodger Widower 45 Brickmaker b St Ives, Hunts Elizabeth GILL Lodger Un 28 b Wentworth, Cambs There's no occupation for James MALTPRESS I'm afraid. Paula ==== ENG-CAMBRIDGESHIRE Mailing List ==== .

One other Maltpress in 1871: Mary Maltpress 67 Boxworth, Cambridgeshire, England Mother Boxworth Cambridgeshire Elizabeth Briggs 54 Grantchester, Cambridgeshire, England Wife Boxworth Cambridgeshire John Briggs 54 Boxworth, Cambridgeshire, England Head Boxworth Cambridgeshire Rubin Briggs 20 Boxworth, Cambridgeshire, England Son Boxworth Cambridgeshire Susan Briggs 15 Boxworth, Cambridgeshire, England Daughter Boxworth Cambridgeshire Harriet Smith 4 Diddington, Huntingdonshire, England Granddaughter Boxworth Cambridgeshire Here are James and Maria in 1851: Maltpress James 33 Witcham Maltpress Maria 28 Witcham Maltpress John 8 Witcham Maltpress Elizabeth 6 Witcham Maltpress Hannah 2 Witcham and another family: Malpress Edward 52 Boxworth Malpress Mary 47 Boxworth Malpress Susan 18 Boxworth Malpress John 16 Boxworth Malpress Mary Ann 13 Boxworth Malpress David William 1 Boxworth And in 1841: Maltpress Edward 40 Boxworth Maltpress Mary 40 Boxworth Maltpress William 14 Boxworth Maltpress Susan 8 Boxworth Maltpress John 6 Boxworth Maltpress Mary 3 Boxworth There's a Malpass family in 1841 which includes a James aged 20 - perhaps the same family. And loath though I am to use the IGI: REBECCA ANN MALTPRESS Christening: 01 MAR 1857 Witcham, Cambridge, England Father: JAMES MALTPRESS Mother: MARIA C135338 (and some siblings) E

.....but luckily she was with her parents in the 1861 census...... RG9/ Piece 1038 / Folio 106 / Page 9 High Street, Witcham James MALTPRESS Head Mar 43 b Witcham, Cambs Maria MALTPRESS Wife Mar 37 b Witcham, Cambs Elizabeth MALTPRESS Dau Un 16 b Witcham, Cambs Hannah MALTPRESS Dau Un 12 b Witcham, Cambs James MALTPRESS Son Un 10 b Witcham, Cambs Ellen MALTPRESS Dau Un 6 b Witcham, Cambs Rebecca MALTPRESS Dau Un 4 b Witcham, Cambs Emily MALTPRESS Dau Un 1 b Witcham, Cambs Miles SISSON Lodger Widower 45 Brickmaker b St Ives, Hunts Elizabeth GILL Lodger Un 28 b Wentworth, Cambs There's no occupation for James MALTPRESS I'm afraid. Paula

Thank you very much Estelle. Co-incidentally that is the second M* today, I was looking for an Ann Maw(e) at Sheffield at that was the only name FreeBMD could throw up. I presume this is the 1871 index from the age, How would I go about getting a copy of the page with address of the family? Many thanks again Kay -----Original Message----- From: Estelle Wolfers [mailto:ewolfers@btinternet.com] Sent: 23 October 2004 15:55 To: ENG-CAMBRIDGESHIRE-L@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [ENG-CAMB] Simkins/Maltpress I guess this is her! I sympathise with the indexer - the enumerator's handwriting is really awful. Rebecca Ma?? 14 Witcham, Cambridgeshire, England Servant Witcham Cambridgeshire Rebecca Pate 17 Downham, Cambridgeshire, England Assistant Witcham Cambridgeshire Gill Tingey 33 Downham, Cambridgeshire, England Head Witcham Cambridgeshire (draper) Ann Tingey 33 Huntingdonshire, England Wife Witcham Cambridgeshire William Tingey 2 Witcham, Cambridgeshire, England Son Witcham Cambridgeshire Flora Tingey 6 months Witcham, Cambridgeshire, England Daughter Witcham Cambridgeshire Estelle ==== ENG-CAMBRIDGESHIRE Mailing List ==== .

I guess this is her! I sympathise with the indexer - the enumerator's handwriting is really awful. Rebecca Ma?? 14 Witcham, Cambridgeshire, England Servant Witcham Cambridgeshire Rebecca Pate 17 Downham, Cambridgeshire, England Assistant Witcham Cambridgeshire Gill Tingey 33 Downham, Cambridgeshire, England Head Witcham Cambridgeshire (draper) Ann Tingey 33 Huntingdonshire, England Wife Witcham Cambridgeshire William Tingey 2 Witcham, Cambridgeshire, England Son Witcham Cambridgeshire Flora Tingey 6 months Witcham, Cambridgeshire, England Daughter Witcham Cambridgeshire Estelle