Have you tried the surnames Elbourn and Elbourne? On the 1861 census index for Cambridge at www.cfns.org.uk there are three Edward Elbourn Perhaps sks could check out these spellings for you. Judy -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Ruth Dunlap Sent: Monday, January 08, 2007 8:27 AM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [ENG-CAMS] Edward Elborn and Martha Partridge nee Vango Have you gone through the GRO indexes in England looking for the deaths of the first two husbands? The GRO indexes are free access on Ancestry.com - it does take a while to search them but just might fill in a bit on the husbands. Have you found a likely Edward Elborn in 1841-1861 censuses in England (and who do NOT appear in 1871, etc.)? It is very hard to find any record of people other than censuses and b-m-d records (or parish records prior to censuses and civil registration). Ruth USA ----- Original Message ----- From: "Helen Supanet" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Saturday, January 06, 2007 3:32 AM Subject: [ENG-CAMS] Edward Elborn and Martha Partridge nee Vango I am hoping someone may be able to help me fill in my spaces regarding my ancestors. In March 1855 Martha Vango married William Partridge in London, England. They were both still in London on 4th June 1862 but between then and 1870 I lose track of Martha and William. Next time I can locate her is approximately 1870. She has a daughter (Ellen) in New Zealand with an Edward Elborn. In 1873 she gives birth to my great great grandma Sarah Levinia Elborn in Hokitika, New Zealand (I have her birth certificate so I know this information to be true). Father given as Edward Elborn - Occupation Miner. She also goes on to have a son, William with Edward Elborn. Sometime between 1875-1880 Martha and 3 children return to London with out Edward and she remarries in 1881. I can trace Martha's family but have been searching for some time to try to trace Edward or information of their life together in England. Family stories indicate that Edward originated from Cambridgeshire, England. I do not know his birth date or any information about him except what has been handed down in family stories. I cannot find a record of them marrying in England so wondered if they got on a ship and married on board? I have searched as many records as I can find of passenger lists on the internet but have not found them. Otherwise they may have married in New Zealand although searches so far have not turned up anything? Does any one know of an ancestor called Edward Elborn who went to New Zealand in about 1860-70? I would be grateful if any body has any information on Edward Elborn or his life with Martha. Thanks Helen ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Have you gone through the GRO indexes in England looking for the deaths of the first two husbands? The GRO indexes are free access on Ancestry.com - it does take a while to search them but just might fill in a bit on the husbands. Have you found a likely Edward Elborn in 1841-1861 censuses in England (and who do NOT appear in 1871, etc.)? It is very hard to find any record of people other than censuses and b-m-d records (or parish records prior to censuses and civil registration). Ruth USA ----- Original Message ----- From: "Helen Supanet" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Saturday, January 06, 2007 3:32 AM Subject: [ENG-CAMS] Edward Elborn and Martha Partridge nee Vango I am hoping someone may be able to help me fill in my spaces regarding my ancestors. In March 1855 Martha Vango married William Partridge in London, England. They were both still in London on 4th June 1862 but between then and 1870 I lose track of Martha and William. Next time I can locate her is approximately 1870. She has a daughter (Ellen) in New Zealand with an Edward Elborn. In 1873 she gives birth to my great great grandma Sarah Levinia Elborn in Hokitika, New Zealand (I have her birth certificate so I know this information to be true). Father given as Edward Elborn - Occupation Miner. She also goes on to have a son, William with Edward Elborn. Sometime between 1875-1880 Martha and 3 children return to London with out Edward and she remarries in 1881. I can trace Martha's family but have been searching for some time to try to trace Edward or information of their life together in England. Family stories indicate that Edward originated from Cambridgeshire, England. I do not know his birth date or any information about him except what has been handed down in family stories. I cannot find a record of them marrying in England so wondered if they got on a ship and married on board? I have searched as many records as I can find of passenger lists on the internet but have not found them. Otherwise they may have married in New Zealand although searches so far have not turned up anything? Does any one know of an ancestor called Edward Elborn who went to New Zealand in about 1860-70? I would be grateful if any body has any information on Edward Elborn or his life with Martha. Thanks Helen

Thanks anyway Alan, and a Happy New Year to you. We also intend, sometime, to get round to them! Best wishes, Lesley & Paul -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of alanmcraven Sent: 07 January 2007 15:41 To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [ENG-CAMS] HOWE Hi Lesley and Paul Apologies for the delay in replying to your email - I'm still trying to clear the backlog from over Christmas. I'm afraid that I have not researched the Lee's and the only information I have on Harriet Lee is that her parents were James Lee and Maryanne Manning. It is an area I intend to research more fully in the future but not likely to be anytime soon. Best Wishes Alan ----- Original Message ----- From: "Paul Gates" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Sunday, December 17, 2006 9:05 PM Subject: Re: [ENG-CAMS] HOWE > Hello Alan, > > You may remember some time ago you sent us some wonderful information on > the > LEETEs. You mention Harriet LEE and Frederick ROYSTON, these are Lesley's > great great grandparents. We don't have much information on the LEEs and > would be very interested in any information you may have. > > Very best wishes, > > Lesley & Paul > Derby UK > > -----Original Message----- > From: [email protected] > [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of alanmcraven > Sent: 17 December 2006 11:08 > To: coraki > Cc: [email protected] > Subject: Re: [ENG-CAMS] HOWE > > Hi Rod > > I don't know if you remember, but we were last in touch in February > regarding the Lee family. Have you now connected Ann Lee, the mother of > Mary Ann Mills, who was born in London, Mddx with Elizabeth Lee? > > My main interest in this area is in the Thulbourns and I have not done a > great deal of research into the Howes. However, as well as the connection > with Joel, there is also that of Hannah Howe who married Newman Thulbourn > in > 1849. Joel and Hannah were brother and sister. Julia Lee Howe, the > daughter of Joel Howe and Mary Ann Mills, then married her first cousin > Ezra > Thulbourn, the son of Newman Thulbourn and Hannah Howe. > > I am happy to send you what I have on the Howes - in exchange perhaps you > could update me on your Lees connections? > > Incidently I have a further connection with a Lee family in > Cambridgeshire. > This is Harriet Lee, born 16 December 1846 at Cambridge, the daughter of > James Lee and Mary Ann Manning. She went on to marry Frederick Royston at > St Andrew the Less on 20 January, 1866 - any connection with your Lee > family? This is part of one of my main family lines, the Leetes. > > Best Wishes > > Alan > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: coraki > To: [email protected] > Cc: [email protected] > Sent: Saturday, December 16, 2006 9:49 AM > Subject: Re: [ENG-CAMS] HOWE > > > Hi Alan > > Do you have any information that you could share on the HOWE family. > Joel married two weman with connections to the LEE families which I > related to more closely but I also just found some connections to HOWE > family in the KENT area at this point not sure if the HOWE's in KENT > relate > to the HOWE's in Cambridge. > > Rod > > Descendants of Thomas HOWE > > > > 1 Thomas HOWE > > .. +Ann . > > ....... 2 Joel HOW b: Bef. 16 May 1819 in Kingston, Cambidge, > England Baptism: 16 May 1819 Kingston, Cambridge, England > > ........... +Elizabeth LEE b: Abt. 1826 m: Bef. 1840 d: Apr 1842 > in > Croydon Cum Clapton, Cambrige > > ................. 3 Ezekial HOW b: Abt. 1842 in Coydon Cum > Clapton, Cambridge, England > > ................. 3 Emily HOW b: Bef. 26 Apr 1840 in Croydon Cum > Clapton, Cambridge England Baptism: 26 Apr 1840 Croydon Cum > Clapton, > Cambridge England > > ....... *2nd Wife of Joel HOW: > > ........... +Elizabeth SMITH m: 03 Mar 1845 in Gamlingay, > Cambridge, England > > ....... *3rd Wife of Joel HOW: > > ........... +Mary Ann (Marian) MILLS b: Abt. 1826 m: 06 Nov > 1855 > in Kingston, Cambridge, England > > .................3 Julia Lee HOWE b: Abt. 1857 > > ..................... +Ezra THULBOURN m: Jun 1882 in Oakington, England > > > ................. 3 George Lee HOWE b: Abt. 1859 in Girtford, > Bedfordshire, England > > .................3 Alfred HOWE b: Abt. 1860 in Kingston, Cambidge, > England > > ................. 3 Ann HOWE b: Abt. 1867 > > .................3 Davis HOWE b: Abt. 1870 > > .................3 Frederick HOWE b: Abt. 1863 > > > > > > > On 12/16/06, alanmcraven <[email protected]> wrote: > Hi Rod > > Yes, I have connections with this family through the marriage of Julia > Lee > Howe to Ezra Thulbourn [as do a couple of others on this list]. > > Best Wishes > > Alan Craven > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "coraki" <[email protected]> > To: < [email protected]> > Sent: Saturday, December 16, 2006 8:36 AM > Subject: Re: [ENG-CAMS] HOWE > > > > Hi Cambridge listers. > > > > Any one have connections to this HOWE family > > > > * > > > > Descendants of Joel HOW > > * > > > > 1 Joel HOW b: Bef. 16 May 1819 in Kingston, Cambidge, England > Baptism: > 16 > > May 1819 Kingston, Cambridge, England > > > > .. +Elizabeth LEE b: Abt. 1826 m: Bef. 1840 d: Apr 1842 in Croydon > Cum > > > Clapton, Cambrige > > > > ....... 2 Ezekial HOW b: Abt. 1842 in Coydon Cum Clapton, Cambridge, > > England > > > > > > ....... 2 Emily HOW b: Bef. 26 Apr 1840 in Croydon Cum Clapton, > Cambridge > > England Baptism: 26 Apr 1840 Croydon Cum Clapton, Cambridge England > > > > *2nd Wife of Joel HOW: > > > > .. +Elizabeth SMITH m: 03 Mar 1845 in Gamlingay, Cambridge, England > > > > *3rd Wife of Joel HOW: > > > > .. +Mary Ann (Marian) MILLS b: Abt. 1826 m: 06 Nov 1855 in Kingston, > > Cambridge, England > > > > ....... 2 Julia Lee HOWE b: Abt. 1857 > > > > ........... +Ezra THULBOURN m: Jun 1882 in Oakington, England > > > > ....... 2 George Lee HOWE b: Abt. 1859 in Girtford, Bedfordshire, > England > > > > ....... 2 Alfred HOWE b: Abt. 1860 in Kingston, Cambidge, England > > > > ....... 2 Ann HOWE b: Abt. 1867 > > > > ....... 2 Davis HOWE b: Abt. 1870 > > > > ....... 2 Frederick HOWE b: Abt. 1863 > > > > > > > > > > > > Rod > > > > ------------------------------- > > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' > > without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' > without > the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' > without > the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' > without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Hi Lesley and Paul Apologies for the delay in replying to your email - I'm still trying to clear the backlog from over Christmas. I'm afraid that I have not researched the Lee's and the only information I have on Harriet Lee is that her parents were James Lee and Maryanne Manning. It is an area I intend to research more fully in the future but not likely to be anytime soon. Best Wishes Alan ----- Original Message ----- From: "Paul Gates" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Sunday, December 17, 2006 9:05 PM Subject: Re: [ENG-CAMS] HOWE > Hello Alan, > > You may remember some time ago you sent us some wonderful information on > the > LEETEs. You mention Harriet LEE and Frederick ROYSTON, these are Lesley's > great great grandparents. We don't have much information on the LEEs and > would be very interested in any information you may have. > > Very best wishes, > > Lesley & Paul > Derby UK > > -----Original Message----- > From: [email protected] > [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of alanmcraven > Sent: 17 December 2006 11:08 > To: coraki > Cc: [email protected] > Subject: Re: [ENG-CAMS] HOWE > > Hi Rod > > I don't know if you remember, but we were last in touch in February > regarding the Lee family. Have you now connected Ann Lee, the mother of > Mary Ann Mills, who was born in London, Mddx with Elizabeth Lee? > > My main interest in this area is in the Thulbourns and I have not done a > great deal of research into the Howes. However, as well as the connection > with Joel, there is also that of Hannah Howe who married Newman Thulbourn > in > 1849. Joel and Hannah were brother and sister. Julia Lee Howe, the > daughter of Joel Howe and Mary Ann Mills, then married her first cousin > Ezra > Thulbourn, the son of Newman Thulbourn and Hannah Howe. > > I am happy to send you what I have on the Howes - in exchange perhaps you > could update me on your Lees connections? > > Incidently I have a further connection with a Lee family in > Cambridgeshire. > This is Harriet Lee, born 16 December 1846 at Cambridge, the daughter of > James Lee and Mary Ann Manning. She went on to marry Frederick Royston at > St Andrew the Less on 20 January, 1866 - any connection with your Lee > family? This is part of one of my main family lines, the Leetes. > > Best Wishes > > Alan > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: coraki > To: [email protected] > Cc: [email protected] > Sent: Saturday, December 16, 2006 9:49 AM > Subject: Re: [ENG-CAMS] HOWE > > > Hi Alan > > Do you have any information that you could share on the HOWE family. > Joel married two weman with connections to the LEE families which I > related to more closely but I also just found some connections to HOWE > family in the KENT area at this point not sure if the HOWE's in KENT > relate > to the HOWE's in Cambridge. > > Rod > > Descendants of Thomas HOWE > > > > 1 Thomas HOWE > > .. +Ann . > > ....... 2 Joel HOW b: Bef. 16 May 1819 in Kingston, Cambidge, > England Baptism: 16 May 1819 Kingston, Cambridge, England > > ........... +Elizabeth LEE b: Abt. 1826 m: Bef. 1840 d: Apr 1842 > in > Croydon Cum Clapton, Cambrige > > ................. 3 Ezekial HOW b: Abt. 1842 in Coydon Cum > Clapton, Cambridge, England > > ................. 3 Emily HOW b: Bef. 26 Apr 1840 in Croydon Cum > Clapton, Cambridge England Baptism: 26 Apr 1840 Croydon Cum > Clapton, > Cambridge England > > ....... *2nd Wife of Joel HOW: > > ........... +Elizabeth SMITH m: 03 Mar 1845 in Gamlingay, > Cambridge, England > > ....... *3rd Wife of Joel HOW: > > ........... +Mary Ann (Marian) MILLS b: Abt. 1826 m: 06 Nov > 1855 > in Kingston, Cambridge, England > > .................3 Julia Lee HOWE b: Abt. 1857 > > ..................... +Ezra THULBOURN m: Jun 1882 in Oakington, England > > > ................. 3 George Lee HOWE b: Abt. 1859 in Girtford, > Bedfordshire, England > > .................3 Alfred HOWE b: Abt. 1860 in Kingston, Cambidge, > England > > ................. 3 Ann HOWE b: Abt. 1867 > > .................3 Davis HOWE b: Abt. 1870 > > .................3 Frederick HOWE b: Abt. 1863 > > > > > > > On 12/16/06, alanmcraven <[email protected]> wrote: > Hi Rod > > Yes, I have connections with this family through the marriage of Julia > Lee > Howe to Ezra Thulbourn [as do a couple of others on this list]. > > Best Wishes > > Alan Craven > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "coraki" <[email protected]> > To: < [email protected]> > Sent: Saturday, December 16, 2006 8:36 AM > Subject: Re: [ENG-CAMS] HOWE > > > > Hi Cambridge listers. > > > > Any one have connections to this HOWE family > > > > * > > > > Descendants of Joel HOW > > * > > > > 1 Joel HOW b: Bef. 16 May 1819 in Kingston, Cambidge, England > Baptism: > 16 > > May 1819 Kingston, Cambridge, England > > > > .. +Elizabeth LEE b: Abt. 1826 m: Bef. 1840 d: Apr 1842 in Croydon > Cum > > > Clapton, Cambrige > > > > ....... 2 Ezekial HOW b: Abt. 1842 in Coydon Cum Clapton, Cambridge, > > England > > > > > > ....... 2 Emily HOW b: Bef. 26 Apr 1840 in Croydon Cum Clapton, > Cambridge > > England Baptism: 26 Apr 1840 Croydon Cum Clapton, Cambridge England > > > > *2nd Wife of Joel HOW: > > > > .. +Elizabeth SMITH m: 03 Mar 1845 in Gamlingay, Cambridge, England > > > > *3rd Wife of Joel HOW: > > > > .. +Mary Ann (Marian) MILLS b: Abt. 1826 m: 06 Nov 1855 in Kingston, > > Cambridge, England > > > > ....... 2 Julia Lee HOWE b: Abt. 1857 > > > > ........... +Ezra THULBOURN m: Jun 1882 in Oakington, England > > > > ....... 2 George Lee HOWE b: Abt. 1859 in Girtford, Bedfordshire, > England > > > > ....... 2 Alfred HOWE b: Abt. 1860 in Kingston, Cambidge, England > > > > ....... 2 Ann HOWE b: Abt. 1867 > > > > ....... 2 Davis HOWE b: Abt. 1870 > > > > ....... 2 Frederick HOWE b: Abt. 1863 > > > > > > > > > > > > Rod > > > > ------------------------------- > > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' > > without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' > without > the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' > without > the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' > without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Thank you to everyone who looked up my Pryor and SImons families. I now have them in 1861, 71 and 81. If anyone wants a return look up for Buckinghamshire in 1851, 61, 81, 91 then email me direct. Best Wishes Alison _________________________________________________________________ Be the first to hear what's new at MSN - sign up to our free newsletters! http://www.msn.co.uk/newsletters

Alison - If Susan [wife of William Pryor] was born c1838 in Croydon, Cambridgeshire, you will probably find her and her family on the Speculum Gregis site at http://www.speculumgregis.info. Best Regards - Steve -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Alison PAGE Sent: 06 January 2007 18:46 To: [email protected] Subject: [ENG-CAMS] census look up please Hello I am trying to trace the family of my Great great grandfather Francis G Pryor. He was born c 1862 in Comberton, Cambridge, I believe. My great uncle remembers that when he came to be of the age to claim an old age pension it was found that his birth had never been recorded officially and he had to make some sort of declaration to qualify. This makes tracing his ancestors a little difficult. I have him on the 1891 and 1901 census. Family recollections have his parents as William Pryor and Susan or Susanna. Their children included Frederick b c 1858 Arthur Harry Albert William b 1872 Please can someone look at the early census records for me to see if the family are listed. I especially want to find Francis on the 1871 and 1881 census, and perhaps find out what the G initial stood for!! Thanks in advance for your help Alison Page _________________________________________________________________ MSN Hotmail is evolving  check out the new Windows Live Mail http://ideas.live.com

Alison This looks like them: 1861 census: West End Road, Comberton, Cambridgeshire William PRYOR Head 33 Baker b Camb Kingston Susan PRYOR Wife 23 b Camb Croydon Frederick W PRYOR Son 3 b Camb Comberton Arther PRYOR Son 3m b Camb Comberton Henry PRYOR Nephew 15 Apprentice B b Camb Kingston 1871 census Charles Cottage, Bethnal Green, London William PRYOR Head Mar 40 Porter b Kingstone (sic) Cambridgeshire Susan PRYOR Wife Mar 32 Dressmaker b Croydon Kent (Kent added in different handwriting) Frederick W PRYOR Son 13 Comberton Arthur PRYOR Son 10 Scholar Comberton Francis PRYOR Son 8 Scholar Comberton Albert G PRYOR Son 2 Old Ford **preceding pages have homes on Kenilworth Road although all the ones on this census page are just names of cottages 1881 census: "Queen Adelaide", Croydon cum Clopton, Cambridgeshire Abel SIMONS Head Unmar 40 Carpenter employing 3 men & 1 appe b Cambs Croydon Emma SIMONS Sister Unmar 42 Housekeeper b Cambs Croydon Frank PRYOR Nephew 18 Apprentice Carpenter (Carpenter added in different handwriting) b Cambs Comberton Julia RIFFORD Niece 16 Barmaid b Cambs Bassingbourn 1881 census: 38 Armagh Road, Bow, London William PRYOR Head Mar 52 Wine porter b Cambs Kingston Susan PRYOR Wife Mar 43 b Cambs Croydon Frederick W PRYOR Son Unm 23 Clicker boot trade b Camb Comberton Arthur PRYOR Son Unm 20 Clicker boot trade b Camb Comberton Albert G PRYOR Son Unm 12 Scholar Bethnal Gn Mid William PRYOR Son 9 Scholar b Bethnal Gn Mid Hope this helps Paula

Hello I am trying to trace the family of my Great great grandfather Francis G Pryor. He was born c 1862 in Comberton, Cambridge, I believe. My great uncle remembers that when he came to be of the age to claim an old age pension it was found that his birth had never been recorded officially and he had to make some sort of declaration to qualify. This makes tracing his ancestors a little difficult. I have him on the 1891 and 1901 census. Family recollections have his parents as William Pryor and Susan or Susanna. Their children included Frederick b c 1858 Arthur Harry Albert William b 1872 Please can someone look at the early census records for me to see if the family are listed. I especially want to find Francis on the 1871 and 1881 census, and perhaps find out what the G initial stood for!! Thanks in advance for your help Alison Page _________________________________________________________________ MSN Hotmail is evolving – check out the new Windows Live Mail http://ideas.live.com

Hi, Helen ! This sounds really intriguing ! I have 3 different PARTRIDGE trees on the go (my own + 2 others that are rumoured to be "Cousins" (but I have not proved any link yet). All 3 trees have a number of Williams on them, but I am sorry to say that none of them fit the dates or ever married a Martha. Not much help, BUT 4 points strike me:- a) Cambridgeshire is definitely not "mining territory", so I guess Edward must have learnt the skills elsewhere in Britain (?) or possibly in New Zealand so he could have been out there for a while before Martha arrived. If I remember correctly (from 2 holidays in NZ) Hokitika is in a coal- mining area, so you may find links in NZ mining / training / apprenticeship records ? - or of course similar records back here ? b) Presumably you have found William PARTRIDGE and Martha in the 1861 G.B. Census ? - have you found Martha and the 3 children back here in G.B. in the 1881 Census ? Did she remarry before or after that 1881 Census ? c) I do not know the Census years in NZ - but presumably you have looked ? d) It seems a little strange that she names her son (by Edward ELBORN) as a William which was her first husband's name - unless he had died before she emigrated and she still had some fond memories ? IF they had parted on bad terms surely she would not have chosen this name ? All a bit "thin" I know but I hope this helps a little ! Good Hunting ! Roger PARTRIDGE, Surbiton, Surrey. -------------------- On 6 Jan 2007, at 09:32, Helen Supanet wrote: > I am hoping someone may be able to help me fill in my spaces > regarding my ancestors. > > In March 1855 Martha Vango married William Partridge in London, > England. They were both still in London on 4th June 1862 but > between then and 1870 I lose track of Martha and William. Next time > I can locate her is approximately 1870. She has a daughter (Ellen) > in New Zealand with an Edward Elborn. > > In 1873 she gives birth to my great great grandma Sarah Levinia > Elborn in Hokitika, New Zealand (I have her birth certificate so I > know this information to be true). Father given as Edward Elborn - > Occupation Miner. She also goes on to have a son, William with > Edward Elborn. > > Sometime between 1875-1880 Martha and 3 children return to London > with out Edward and she remarries in 1881. I can trace Martha's > family but have been searching for some time to try to trace Edward > or information of their life together in England. > > Family stories indicate that Edward originated from Cambridgeshire, > England. I do not know his birth date or any information about him > except what has been handed down in family stories. I cannot find > a record of them marrying in England so wondered if they got on a > ship and married on board? I have searched as many records as I > can find of passenger lists on the internet but have not found > them. Otherwise they may have married in New Zealand although > searches so far have not turned up anything? > > Does any one know of an ancestor called Edward Elborn who went to > New Zealand in about 1860-70? > > I would be grateful if any body has any information on Edward > Elborn or his life with Martha. > > Thanks > > Helen >

I am hoping someone may be able to help me fill in my spaces regarding my ancestors. In March 1855 Martha Vango married William Partridge in London, England. They were both still in London on 4th June 1862 but between then and 1870 I lose track of Martha and William. Next time I can locate her is approximately 1870. She has a daughter (Ellen) in New Zealand with an Edward Elborn. In 1873 she gives birth to my great great grandma Sarah Levinia Elborn in Hokitika, New Zealand (I have her birth certificate so I know this information to be true). Father given as Edward Elborn - Occupation Miner. She also goes on to have a son, William with Edward Elborn. Sometime between 1875-1880 Martha and 3 children return to London with out Edward and she remarries in 1881. I can trace Martha's family but have been searching for some time to try to trace Edward or information of their life together in England. Family stories indicate that Edward originated from Cambridgeshire, England. I do not know his birth date or any information about him except what has been handed down in family stories. I cannot find a record of them marrying in England so wondered if they got on a ship and married on board? I have searched as many records as I can find of passenger lists on the internet but have not found them. Otherwise they may have married in New Zealand although searches so far have not turned up anything? Does any one know of an ancestor called Edward Elborn who went to New Zealand in about 1860-70? I would be grateful if any body has any information on Edward Elborn or his life with Martha. Thanks Helen

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The wave of sympathy which passed over the whole neighbourhood was evidenced by the great number of men gathered from all parts, who were present when loving hands laid his body to rest, " in sure and certain hope of the ressurrection to eternal life", in Coldham Churchyard, on Tuesday Feb 4th. Baptism - Feb 16th, Pearl Bessie, daughter of William and Charlotte Parker WRIGHT Burials - Jan 28th, Susan Ann BIGGS, aged 10 years Feb 4th, Herbert John LITTLE, aged 54 years ELM Marriages - Feb 5th, Samuel FOX and Mary Jane HUMPHREYS 18th, George HURST ans Sarah Ann Eleanor TURNER Frederick Charles STAPLETON and Phoebe HURST EMNETH Marriage - William WARE to Annie Elizabeth LYNN Burials - Feb 13th, Arthur William HOTSON, aged 27 14th, Robert Chapman MARSHALL, aged 78 FRIDAYBRIDGE Baptism - Feb 18th, Fred son of William and Elizabeth Ann STANNARD, privately Burial - Feb 6th, William MACROW, aged 76 years Miss Ellen A DAVIS, our Assistant School-mistress, was taken with severe illness on 3rd Feb, and for a whole week her case was such as to cause great anxiety to her many friends. But on 10th Feb she had a change for the better, and made such progress in the way of amendment as to be able to go home on 25th feb for rest and change. We all hope that her ercovery may be rapid, so that she may soon take her place among us again. She has out sympathy and our prayers. One of our former assistant-teachers, Mr Samuel G SMITH, has, for the present, kindly taken her place. GUYHIRN with RING'S END and THORNEY TOLL Baptisms- Feb 2nd, Abraham, son of Abraham and Mary Elizabeth LIQUORICE Feb 9th, Edith, daughter of Edward and Rachel HALL Burials - Jan 29th, Ambrose PRATT, Ring's End, aged 75 years 30th, John James SMITH, aged 14 months LEVERINGTON Baptisms - Feb 2nd, Ada, daughter of Nathaniel and Fanny GILL Ernerst and Percy Christmas, sons of Robert and Charlotte JIMSON Marriage - Feb 18th, William Thomas BURROWS to Lydia MELTON Burial - Feb 21st, Ethel LUFF, aged 7 months NEWTON We have this month to record the death of Joseph BLOW, who for many years has been an inhabitant of the parish, and for a long time has held the office of parish clerk and sexton. His illness lasred for upward of five months; at one time it was thought that he might have sufficiently recovered so as to be seen once more amongst us, but God willed it otherwise; he was called to his rest on the morning of Thursday, Feb 20th. His familiar figure will be missed by all the inhabitants of the parish, and indeed the neighbourhood also, as he was well known throughout the district. The Funeral took place on Monday, Feb 24th, in the Church and Churchyard which he had served so long TYDD S. GILES Baptisms - Feb 23rd, Thomas and Artur, sons of Henry and Lucy LAKEY Arthur, Florence, Herbert, Rose and Martha, children of Peregrine and Elizabeth SMITH Marriage - Feb 2nd, Thomas William GOSTOLO and Mary Elizabeth ASHLING WISBECH S. MARY Baptisms - Feb 7th, Edward WILSON Grace, daughter of Matthew Tempest and Susannah PIGOT Burials - Feb 10th, Charlotte TARRELL, aged 75 years 12th, Pollie STEWARD, aged 20 years

Not sure if I'm missing something here, but if you're certain the 1851 census entry is your Stephen then surely the easiest way to check if it's the right marriage is to shell out £7 for the birth certificate of one of the children which will give the mother's maiden name. If it's Herrington you're home and dry Regards David Ann McClean <[email protected]> a écrit : Thanks for the 1841 image, Chris - I DID have a copy of that census page somewhere, but I've had a big tidy up over Christmas and can't find a thing! In 1841 the family were in Huntingindon, in Victoria Lane nr. Brampton Road: PRO ref: HO107.455 Folio 21, pg 37: Stephen PALMER 25yrs Occ.Millwright Bn in County=NO Elizabeth PALMER 25yrs ------------- NO Elizabeth PALMER 5yrs ------------- NO Delphiniah PALMER 1yr ------------- Yes Stephen's age should read 28 or 29, but has been rounded down to nearest 5, as has Elizabeth's. Back to the drawing board :) Regards, Ann ----- Original Message ----- Date: Sun, 31 Dec 2006 13:47:00 -0000 From: "Christine Cunningham" Subject: Re: [ENG-FENS] SOHAM Marriage look-up To: Have we got this fella on the 1841 yet? ----- Original Message ----- From: "Ann McClean" To: Sent: Sunday, December 31, 2006 11:22 AM Subject: [ENG-FENS] SOHAM Marriage look-up > Thanks to the Boyds Index, I think I have found the marriage of one of my > PALMERs :) > > Stephen PALMER & Elizabeth HERRINGTON > 1836 Soham > > Is there anyone with access to the Soham Registers that could give me any > more information > than the above?? I have been looking for this information for the last > 2-3 > years, as Stephen is the > elder brother of my gt gt grandfather, Emmanuel PALMER. > > Am hoping against hope that this is the same Stephen as on this 1851 > Census > entry which IS him: > >> Ramsey, Hunts 1851 Census PRO Ref. HO.107.1745 Enumeration District 1G >> >> Folio 104b Schedule 113 Newtown - Stocken Fen >> Stephen Palmer H M 39 Millwright Portugal British Subject >> Elizabeth Palmer Wf M 40 Millwright's wife CAM Cambridge >> Elizabeth Palmer D - 14 --- SFK Gaugely >> Delphenia Palmer D - 10 Scholar HUN Houghton >> Stephen Palmer S - 4 Scholar HUN Ramsey >> Henry Palmer S - 2 --- HUN Ramsey >> Sarah Ann Palmer D - -- --- HUN Ramsey >> Louis Palmer Br - 23 --- CAM Burwell ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? En finir avec le spam? Yahoo! Mail vous offre la meilleure protection possible contre les messages non sollicités http://mail.yahoo.fr Yahoo! Mail

I've an Ann Palmer (my Gt x4 GM) who married a John Pottrell in Chrishall, Essex on/around the 20/08/1822. She was born in 1804 in Chrishall (according to the 1841 census). Does anyone have a match for her? She died on the 18/04/1882, a pretty good age for back then I believe? Tony Ann McClean wrote: > Thanks for this, Julia. Unfortunately as there were so many PALMERs in > Soham as well as Burwell, > I have no way of knowing if this is the RIGHT Stephen! > > Regards, Ann > > ----- Original Message ----- > Date: Sun, 31 Dec 2006 10:09:46 -0700 > From: "Julia Henderson" [email protected] > Subject: Re: [ENG-CAMS] PALMER-HERRINGTON marriage > To: [email protected] > > Hello Ann, > The Soham PR does not offer much additional information in this marriage > record: > > 18 Feb 1836 Stephen PALMER bac & Elizabeth HERRINGTON sp botp > Wit: John COWELL - Mary COWELL > > Best wishes, > Julia Henderson > > > >> Stephen PALMER & Elizabeth HERRINGTON >> 1836 Soham >> >> Is there anyone with access to the Soham Registers that could give me any >> more information >> than the above?? I have been looking for this information for the last >> 2-3 >> years, as Stephen is the >> elder brother of my gt gt grandfather, Emmanuel PALMER. >> >> > > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 4 > Date: Mon, 1 Jan 2007 14:10:41 +1100 > From: "Janette Pfeifer" <[email protected]> > Subject: [ENG-CAMS] Purkis / Jennings etc. > To: "Eng- Cambridgeshire" <[email protected]> > Message-ID: <[email protected]> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" > > Hello to John Bridgeman, > It's Janette here from Australia. I've just > checked through your list of names with what I've got & here's what I've > found:---- > > PURKIS I have a John PURKIS of Fowlmere, Cambs who married date unknown > to Mary ELBOURN chris.20.9.1713 St.Mary Magdalene, Cambs. I've also > got a Mary Ann PURKIS who married 2.11.1867 Holy Trinity, Balsham, Cambs to > a Charles KING who was chris.6.8.1848 St.andrew the Less, Cambs. > > JENNINGS I have a William JENNINGS who married c1779 to Catherine > THOROWGOOD whoi was born Haslingfield, Cambs. > They had 4 children born Little Shelford, Cambs. > > Regards, > Janette (Jan) Pfeifer in Oz > > ------------------------------ > > To contact the ENG-CAMBRIDGESHIRE list administrator, send an email to > [email protected] > > To post a message to the ENG-CAMBRIDGESHIRE mailing list, send an email to > [email protected] > > __________________________________________________________ > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] > with the word "unsubscribe" without the quotes in the subject and the body > of the > email with no additional text. > > > End of ENG-CAMBRIDGESHIRE Digest, Vol 2, Issue 1 > ************************************************ > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > >

Thanks for this, Julia. Unfortunately as there were so many PALMERs in Soham as well as Burwell, I have no way of knowing if this is the RIGHT Stephen! Regards, Ann ----- Original Message ----- Date: Sun, 31 Dec 2006 10:09:46 -0700 From: "Julia Henderson" [email protected] Subject: Re: [ENG-CAMS] PALMER-HERRINGTON marriage To: [email protected] Hello Ann, The Soham PR does not offer much additional information in this marriage record: 18 Feb 1836 Stephen PALMER bac & Elizabeth HERRINGTON sp botp Wit: John COWELL - Mary COWELL Best wishes, Julia Henderson > Stephen PALMER & Elizabeth HERRINGTON > 1836 Soham > > Is there anyone with access to the Soham Registers that could give me any > more information > than the above?? I have been looking for this information for the last > 2-3 > years, as Stephen is the > elder brother of my gt gt grandfather, Emmanuel PALMER. > ------------------------------ Message: 4 Date: Mon, 1 Jan 2007 14:10:41 +1100 From: "Janette Pfeifer" <[email protected]> Subject: [ENG-CAMS] Purkis / Jennings etc. To: "Eng- Cambridgeshire" <[email protected]> Message-ID: <[email protected]> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Hello to John Bridgeman, It's Janette here from Australia. I've just checked through your list of names with what I've got & here's what I've found:---- PURKIS I have a John PURKIS of Fowlmere, Cambs who married date unknown to Mary ELBOURN chris.20.9.1713 St.Mary Magdalene, Cambs. I've also got a Mary Ann PURKIS who married 2.11.1867 Holy Trinity, Balsham, Cambs to a Charles KING who was chris.6.8.1848 St.andrew the Less, Cambs. JENNINGS I have a William JENNINGS who married c1779 to Catherine THOROWGOOD whoi was born Haslingfield, Cambs. They had 4 children born Little Shelford, Cambs. Regards, Janette (Jan) Pfeifer in Oz ------------------------------ To contact the ENG-CAMBRIDGESHIRE list administrator, send an email to [email protected] To post a message to the ENG-CAMBRIDGESHIRE mailing list, send an email to [email protected] __________________________________________________________ To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word "unsubscribe" without the quotes in the subject and the body of the email with no additional text. End of ENG-CAMBRIDGESHIRE Digest, Vol 2, Issue 1 ************************************************

Thanks for the 1841 image, Chris - I DID have a copy of that census page somewhere, but I've had a big tidy up over Christmas and can't find a thing! In 1841 the family were in Huntingindon, in Victoria Lane nr. Brampton Road: PRO ref: HO107.455 Folio 21, pg 37: Stephen PALMER 25yrs Occ.Millwright Bn in County=NO Elizabeth PALMER 25yrs ------------- NO Elizabeth PALMER 5yrs ------------- NO Delphiniah PALMER 1yr ------------- Yes Stephen's age should read 28 or 29, but has been rounded down to nearest 5, as has Elizabeth's. Back to the drawing board :) Regards, Ann ----- Original Message ----- Date: Sun, 31 Dec 2006 13:47:00 -0000 From: "Christine Cunningham" <[email protected]> Subject: Re: [ENG-FENS] SOHAM Marriage look-up To: <[email protected]> Have we got this fella on the 1841 yet? ----- Original Message ----- From: "Ann McClean" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Sunday, December 31, 2006 11:22 AM Subject: [ENG-FENS] SOHAM Marriage look-up > Thanks to the Boyds Index, I think I have found the marriage of one of my > PALMERs :) > > Stephen PALMER & Elizabeth HERRINGTON > 1836 Soham > > Is there anyone with access to the Soham Registers that could give me any > more information > than the above?? I have been looking for this information for the last > 2-3 > years, as Stephen is the > elder brother of my gt gt grandfather, Emmanuel PALMER. > > Am hoping against hope that this is the same Stephen as on this 1851 > Census > entry which IS him: > >> Ramsey, Hunts 1851 Census PRO Ref. HO.107.1745 Enumeration District 1G >> >> Folio 104b Schedule 113 Newtown - Stocken Fen >> Stephen Palmer H M 39 Millwright Portugal British Subject >> Elizabeth Palmer Wf M 40 Millwright's wife CAM Cambridge >> Elizabeth Palmer D - 14 --- SFK Gaugely >> Delphenia Palmer D - 10 Scholar HUN Houghton >> Stephen Palmer S - 4 Scholar HUN Ramsey >> Henry Palmer S - 2 --- HUN Ramsey >> Sarah Ann Palmer D - -- --- HUN Ramsey >> Louis Palmer Br - 23 --- CAM Burwell

Happy New Year Maureen! Love your posting of the Deanery Magazine!! Haven't seen anything about my Kirby line, But just love to read it!! Thanks! Pat from Iowa ----- Original Message ----- From: "Carol J. Markillie" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Thursday, January 04, 2007 11:26 AM Subject: Re: [ENG-CAMS] Wisbech Deanery Magazine Feb 1890 > Hi Maureen and Happy New Year! > > Many thanks for continuing to post the Deanery Magazine - those > CLARKS might be 'mine'. > > Regards - > Carol > Washington State now > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' > without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

Back again after the Christmas break. Mo ---- Wisbech Deanery Magazine - February 1890 WISBECH St Peter and Paul Baptisms - Jan 22nd, Gertrude, daughter of William and Sarah Jane WARD 25th, William Henry Victor, son of Henry James and Maria Elizabeth BOUGHEN Marriages - Dec 30th, Goulder GRAY to Emma FIRTH, of Wisbech Jan 1st, Septimus WARD to Emma FOSTER, of Wisbech James William HANSED, of Wisbech, to Mary Ann ASKEW of Tilney St Lawrence Burials - Dec 27th, George CLARKE, aged 71 years 31st, Charles Henry HOLMAN, aged 6 months Jan 2nd, George GATHERCOLE, aged 12 months 5th, Elizabeth TOOKE, aged 78 years Louisa CHASE, aged 50 years 7th, Mary LAWRENCE, aged 68 years 9th, Thomas ANDREW, aged 80 years 16th, Louisa CARTER, aged 59 years Mary Ann OLIVER, aged 74 years WISBECH S. AUGUSTINE'S Baptisms - Dec 28th, Ralph Flanders BARKER 29th, Herbert David WENLOCK Jan 25th, Kathleen CLARKE, Elizabeth CLARKE Marriage - George Pett HALL to Amy WOODWARD COLDHAM Baptism- Jan 5th, Minnie daughter of William and Mary Ann HART, Coldham ELM Baptisms - Jan 12th, Grace Lilian KITCHEN, and Horace John RACEY Burials - Jan 9th, Thomas TUCK, aged 69, and Sarah Ann HALL, aged 72 FRIDAYBRIDGE - Baptism - Jan 18th, Lily Rosetta, daughter of James and Susanna HENSON ( privately) Burials - Jan 11th, Emma BROWN, aged 14 years 26th, John POOLEY, aged 46 years GUYHIRN with RING'S END and THORNEY TOLL Olive GILBY and Edith BRITAIN, Pupil teachers in Guyhuirn School, having recently passed in the first class in the Ely Diocesan Examination in Religious Knowledge, have each been presented with a prize by the Cambridge Board of Education. Baptism - Jan 19th, Sarah, daughter of Charles and Selina REDSHAW, Thorney Toll GOREFIELD Baptism - Jan 19th, Beatrice, daughter of Goddard and Caroline Jane OFFLEY LEVERINGTON Baptisms- Jan 5th, Horace Shepherd, son of Reuben and Sarah Jane NEVE Rosanna, daughter of Harry William and Sarah Ann SHEPHERD 19th, John Tom, son of Thomas and Alice BARRON Burials - Dec 23rd, 1889, Sophia STUBBINS, aged 73 Jan 1st, Caroline BALLS, aged 68 3rd, William THREADGILL, aged 76 NEWTON Baptisms - Jan 12th, John Henry, son of George Aaron and Sarah Ann SANDERSON Benjamin Philip, son of Robert and Susan BAINES 19th, John William, son of William and Elizabeth SHAW SOUTHEA with MURROW Within the space of one month there have passed away from us three old and valued friends, who were deservedly held in much respect and regard by us all; and from their long residence amongst us will be much missed, and their loss deeply regretted. William HAWKINS, who from the first, after the consecration of the Church, jointly with Mr T DIXON, without any remuneration, undertook the management of the lamps and lighting of the church, continued to do so with great care and regularity for 15 years, after which time, Mr T DIXON was disabled by a paralytic stroke, and Mr W HAWKINS continued to carry on his willing service, until the end of last winter. William HAWKINS was a trustworthy and valued servant in the employ of the same family for a great number of years up to the time of his death. He was also one of the oldest members, and took an active part in the management of the Foresters' Club On January 8th, 1890, Mrs Ann MEWS was followed to the grave by her five sons and three daughters, and laid to rest in the churchyard of the old mother church at Parson drove. George MEWS, her husband, was taken to the same resting place, and laid beside her on January 17th. Through 45 years of married life they lived in perfect love and peace together, and in answer to their united prayers that either should be spared a lonely old age, they passed away within ten days of each other, with the united affection and love of their sorrowing children and grandchildren. Marriage - Dec 27th, William WHITE to Alice HUGHES Burial - Dec 19th, William HAWKINS, aged 71 years TYDD S. GILES Baptisms - Nov 24th, Ivy Lizzie WARD Dec 1st, Bertram WILSON 2nd, Herbert SMITH 12th, Bertie JOHNSON 18th, James SKEELS 25th, Frederick WELLS Jan 20th, Fred WARD 23rd, John Henry RAYNER Burials - Dec 20th, Ellen LAKEY, aged 14 years Jan 16th, Emma RAYNER, aged 7 years Frederick RAYNER aged 10 years George RAYNER aged 4 years 17th, John MASON, aged 28 years WISBECH S. MARY Baptiam - Jan 4th, Horace Leonard, son of Abraham and Lavinia BURROWS Marriage - Dec 28th, Luke COLEMAN and Amelia COBB Burial - Jan 26th, Eliza TAWN, aged 59 years

Hi Maureen and Happy New Year! Many thanks for continuing to post the Deanery Magazine - those CLARKS might be 'mine'. Regards - Carol Washington State now

I am looking for the birth/baptism of Elizabeth Emma Household who, according to the 1851, 1861, 1871 and 1881 census records, says she was born in Whittlesey. She married Thomas Walker and was living in Derby and later Liverpool where she died in 1882 at the age of 76. That would put her birth year at about 1806. There is an Elizabeth Household christened 1804, daughter of Richard and Mary, at Whittlesey that is a likely candidate, but she named her first son David Household Walker, which leads me to think that the name David may be either a father or brother's name. Is anyone else researching the HOUSEHOLD surname? What are its origins and what happened to it? The name seems to have disappeared. Sherry Noden Dallas, TX USA

Hi Roslyn I have PRs for Cottenham and Histon. The Histon PRs go all the way to 1950 but Cottenham only to 1812. Fortunately they include 19 Oct 1812 CHAPMAN Thomas married Molly MOORE Witnesses : James Moore, Thomas Haird A good bet for the bride's baptism would be 6 Feb 1791 MOORE, Molley d. Benjamin & Mary I have an interest in the PAPWORTH family of Cottenham Happy to help further when you pick up some more clues. Have you heard from others interested in Cottenham families ? Always happy to exchange info Chris Graves, Colchester Family Interests in Cottenham and Histon : Graves, Gautrey, Chivers, Boodger, Burkett, Papworth, Sanderson, Spackman, Wright and lots of others ----- Original Message ----- From: "Roslyn Macgregor" <[email protected]> To: "Cambridgeshire List" <[email protected]> Sent: Monday, January 01, 2007 10:19 PM Subject: [ENG-CAMS] CHAPMAN PAPWORTH Histon/Impinton/Cottenham area > Hello. > > I've just joined this list. Am searching for the ancestors of a recently > discovered cousin of my Dad's who's in hiw 80's and knows nothing of his > family. He lives in Devon; I, in Montreal. > > Roy's mother was Emily Agnes Chapman, daughter of Tom Dan Chapman. Emily > was born in London. Tom Dan and his parents, etc. were from Histon, > Impington, Cottenham area. > > Tom Dan married Alice Brown of Whitechapel. > > Tom Dan's parents were Thomas Chapman + Eliza Papworth married about 1858. > He of Cottenham, she of Impington. > > Thomas parents were James Chapman + Charlotte ? married early 1830's, I > imagine. Cottenham. > > James' parents were Thomas Chapman and Mary (Molly) ? married 1813 or so. > Cottenham. > > Tom Dan's sister Agnes married George Smith in 1899, and Roy remembers > visiting her. William papworth Chapman, brother, married Mary Swain (born > Newson) in 1883. She of Plomesgate, I think. Was married and widowed, I > think, with a son William. > > Does anyone have connections with this family? they seem to have been > involved off and on, mostly on, with inns, victuallers, as well as > carpenters - publicans. Some moved to London. > > Thank you for any help - looking forward to hearing from you. I love the > puzzles - and detective work. Have found so manay new relatives and > friends while searching my grandfather macgregor - whose death I found - > but no further along - and hope to find news in the 1911 census in 4 > years - meantime, having fun with lots of other paths. > > Cousin Roy (long family story) didn't know he had any relatives. My dad > died before he knew he did. > > Ros > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' > without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >