Greetings: Sometime ago I purchased a copy of a will for Abraham CLEMENTS, Blacksmith and _____ (?) draper of Dullingham, dated 1793, with codicil dated 1813, probate being obtained 14th April 1814. It names his wife, Elizabeth CLEMENTS, and in the event of her predeceasing him, Twenty pounds each is left to his sister Ann OAT, her children William, George, James and Ann OAT. Other beneficiaries include John JEFFERY (brother to Ann OAT, Snr., being the wife of Elizabeth JEFFERY). The writing isn't the easiest to read and apart from Dullingham I can't make out any other place names. As regards OAT, I've seen references on Ancestry.com to an OAKE family that has connections with CLEMENTS, but the Will looks like OAT. If this is of interest to anyone I can send either a scan of the photocopy and/or a copy of the text such as I've been able to make out. I was looking for a Charles CLEMENTS of Dullingham, b. abt 1820 (married to Elizabeth of Hopton, b. abt. 1822) with children: Eliza Maryann Charles Georgina Eleanor and Elizabeth and hoped Abraham might have some connection, but he didn't. Vic Scarborough, North Yorkshire

Hello Listers The Cambridgeshire Baptism Index gives 1835 STEARN Mary A dau of John and Eliza Trumpington Does anyone have access to the original record to give me the full date, the second forename and any other information that may be given? Thanks Dave from North Devon

Hello Dave, There is not much additional info on the marriage record: 5 May 1831 John STEARN (x) bac otp & Eliza HAZARD (x) sp otp Wit: John HAZARD - Kezia BUTTLER The baptism query shows: 15 Nov 1835 Mary Anne STEARN dau of John & Eliza otp lab Hope this is of some help. Best wishes, Julia > > The IGI has a marriage for John STEARN and Eliza HAZARD on 05 May 1831 in > Trumpington. > > Does anyone have access to the original record to see if there are any > more details?

Hello Listers The IGI has a marriage for John STEARN and Eliza HAZARD on 05 May 1831 in Trumpington. Does anyone have access to the original record to see if there are any more details? Thanks Dave from North Devon

Wisbech Deanery Magazine - May 1890 WISBECH - S.S. PETER AND PAUL Baptisms - April 4th, Elizabeth Rose, daughter of Joseph and Eliza FENWICK 6th, Robert REGINALD, son of James and Elizabeth BUSHELL Ellen Jane, daughter of John Naylor and Emma WRIGHT Sidney Warby, son of Thomas and Mary Ann SALMON 12th, Bernard Archibald, son of James William and Drusilla PALMER William Haseldine, son of Thomas Timpeny and Susan Emma COALES 13th, Amy Rebecca, daughter of Henry and Amy JOHNSON 19th, Leslie Augustus, son of Charles and Mary Elizabeth REED Marriages - March 27th, William Sutton CHAPMAN to Minnie Jane BLOODWORTH, of Wisbech April 8th, Charles William Edwards, of S. Paul's, Deptford, to Edith Eliza COOKE, of Wisbech 15th, Henry James LANKFER to Annie WADSLEY, of Wisbech 20th, George THORPE to Ellen Hannah HOLMES, of Wisbech Burials - March 24th, Isaac BATLEY, aged 56 years April 7th, Kate PLEASANCE, aged 19 years 8th, Elizabeth SHARPE, aged 77 years Mary Ann BERRIDGE, aged 84 years 13th, Maria CAWTHORNE, aged 38 years 17th, Bernard Archibald PALMER, aged 2 months 19th, Mary Ann TAYLOR, aged 42 years S. AUGUSTINE'S WISBECH Baptisms - March 30th, Edith Emma WISEMAN April 10th, Evelyn Mary DOWLING 24th, Grace Lilian TAYLOR 25th, Percy William WINTERS 27th, Herbert Hunt GEE Marriages - April 7th, Harry FOUNTAIN to Rosina FLANDERS Henry WELLS to Emma Jane WRIGHT 16th, Edmund WATFORD to Louisa DURRINGTON COLDHAM - Baptism - April 13th, Lewis, son of Benjamin and Elizabeth Ann SHIPP Marriage - April 7th, Elijah Tetford EGLINGTON, of March, to Annie Drewry, of Coldham ELM Baptisms - April 2nd, George William, son of George and Ann RACEY Sarah, daughter of Robert and Mary Ann WHITE Marriage - April 6th, (Easter Day), George MEGGISON and Annie THOMPSON Burials - April 2nd, Mabel Collett WILKINSON, aged 8 months 8th, Sarah WHITE, aged 4 months 10th, William BALDOCK, aged 73 years 16th, George William RACEY, aged 18 days 18th, Robert GREEN, aged 71 years 22nd, Thomas HOOLES, aged 78 years 28th, Elizabeth LYNN, aged 86 years EMNETH Burial - April 16th, Richard Bland BUTCHER, aged 56 years FRIDAYBRIDGE Baptisms - April 16th, Robert Hurton, son of Harry and Emma PRUDEN 19th, (privately) Charlotte Mary PHILLIPPS Received into the Church - April 27th, Lily Rosetta HENSON, privately baptized 18th Jan Marriages - April 9th, Ernest GEE to Fanny STOCKDALE 18th, John Walter GIRDLESTONE to Lucy May LANGHAM Burials - March 28th, Elizabeth DAVEY, aged 100 years 31st, Susan BARNARD, aged 30 years April 24th, Sarah JENKINSON, aged 80 years GUYHIRN with RING'S END and THORNEY TOLL Baptisms - March 30th, Sidney, son of John and Sarah HANDBURY April 6th, Arthur, son of George and Mary SHAW 25th, Horace, son of James and Susannah SMITH Burial - April 14th, Harris Willaim SMITH, aged 6 years LEVERINGTON - Owing to the prevalence of measles in the village, in consequence of which out of 100 children on the school register only 23 were able to attend on Monday, April 14th, it is thought advisable to close the Day School for a short time; and the Diocesan Inspection which was to have taken place on Friday, May 2nd, has had to be postponed to some day to be fixed at the end of June or the beginning of July. Baptisms - April 6th, George, son of John and Mary Ann WINTERS William, son of William and Elizabeth LEADEN Abraham Dawson, son of William West and Hephzibah Charlotte MATTHEWS Marriage - April 23rd, Robert Bellamy WARWICK, of Farcet, to Susannah STOCKDALE, of Leverington Burial - April 6th, Alice BRANSOM, aged 61 NEWTON - Baptism - March 29th, Ina Marion, daughter of William and Elizabeth WING Burials - April 8th, Ina Marion WING, aged 16 months 10th, Henry BUTCHER, aged 74 years SOUTHEA with MURROW Baptisms - April 6th, Leah, daughter of John and Mary Elizabeth BURROWS, labourer William Frederic, Gertrude Fanny, and Sydney, children of William and Sarah MEWS, labourer WISBECH S. MARY The scholars of the Wisbech S Mary National School received their certificates and prizes for regular attendance, and gave a very creditable entertainment, consisting of songs, recitations, and dialogues, on Friday, April 18th. There was a large and appreciative audience. It is to be regretted that the School Managers were entirely unrepresented, except by the Vicar. The following children, having made in each case more than 400 attendances, received prizes :- William SELCH ( not absent once), Harry BURROWS, Charles WHITE, Samuel MARRIOTT, John NICHOLSON, George BARSBY, Mary Ann SELCH, Sarah SELCH, Maude BURROWS, Adelaide SELBY, Sarah BARSBY Burials - March 22nd, Elizabeth POLLINGTON, aged 70 years April 11th, John Thomas JUDGE, aged 22 years

To have already had two replies with such useful information is remarkable. thank you both. Barbara

Hi I sent the following info to Helen but might be useful to you. There are other Elbourne's marrying in NZ if you are interested. >From my NZ marriage cd (1836 to 1956) there is a marriage for a Edward Elborn to a Mary Roades in 1878 folio 2854. Nothing else listed for Edward kind regards Heather Macdonald NSW Australia

On the site at www.cfhs.org.uk/ I found the following baptism. Note the slight difference in surname spelling. Have you checked this out? Also, remember that in 1841, ages were rounded down to the nearest 5-years. 1815 HILSDEN Jane S. 22d Castle St. d. of Samuel & Susannah Camb. St.Giles * Also found two possible baptisms for John. Note the spelling here of his last name: 1815 RAWLING John F. - ----- illeg. s. of Sarah Upwell * 1813 RAWLING John 17d ----- s. of John & Mary Chatteris * Have you looked them up in the 1851 census? I found them on the index as follows, but do not have access to the details. Perhaps sks could check this as the 1851 census cites where they say they were born: Surname Forenames Age Parish or Town Film Folio RAWLINGS John 45 Chatteris HO107/1765 311B RAWLINGS Jane 47 Chatteris HO107/1765 311B Good luck, Judy -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of [email protected] Sent: Thursday, January 11, 2007 12:29 AM To: Cambridgeshire List Subject: [ENG-CAMS] Hillsden/Rawlings families I am a new subscriber and have read through the archives with great interest, especially noting that some of you have connections in Chatteris. I have got stuck with my Hillsden/Rawlings family there. I know that Jane and John Rawlings were aged 25 in 1841 and both were said to have been born in the county but I am unable to trace either their marriage or births. From a Will it seems that Jane was nee Hillsden. I have seen elsewhere (on the Oxford list) another researcher mentions these names some years ago but is not answering to his Email address. I would welcome any helpful advice Barbara Coordinating FreeCens for LND Whitechapel and parts of Bethnal Green, Mile End and Stepney. For further information see the website: http://freecen.rootsweb.com ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

I am a new subscriber and have read through the archives with great interest, especially noting that some of you have connections in Chatteris. I have got stuck with my Hillsden/Rawlings family there. I know that Jane and John Rawlings were aged 25 in 1841 and both were said to have been born in the county but I am unable to trace either their marriage or births. From a Will it seems that Jane was nee Hillsden. I have seen elsewhere (on the Oxford list) another researcher mentions these names some years ago but is not answering to his Email address. I would welcome any helpful advice Barbara Coordinating FreeCens for LND Whitechapel and parts of Bethnal Green, Mile End and Stepney. For further information see the website: http://freecen.rootsweb.com

Hello Janette Thanks for your email. Thanks to everyone else who has responded, I am trying to follow up as many leads as I can. Janette, I have found the death of an Edward Elborn in Christchurch, New Zealand age 72 years in 1910, Born in England, which would make his birth date about 1838. I am guessing but I have managed to locate an Edward Elborn who lived not far from Martha in London on the 1861 Census. It seems his wife died in 1861 ( I have just sent for the death certificate to see if this can give me any further information). I believe that Martha's first husband was still alive when she ran off with Edward? I have found a possible candidate on the 1881 census for William Partridge and I cannot locate a death certificate for him. It would seem he may well have still been alive when she married for a third time! The Edward Elborn I am chasing up at the moment was born in Cherry Hinton, Cambridgeshire in 1838. Mother Sarah, father unknown (at the moment). I am by no means sure this is the correct Edward Elborn but the dates and locations in London mean they were only a few miles apart. I would definitely be interested in any information you have on an Edward Elborn who was in New Zealand in 1860-70 or if you know if he ever worked or travelled to London. Did he work on the railways? There is a suggestion from family members he may have been a rail worker. Thanks Helen ----- Original Message ----- From: "Janette Pfeifer" <[email protected]> To: "Eng- Cambridgeshire" <[email protected]> Sent: Tuesday, January 09, 2007 10:38 PM Subject: [ENG-CAMS] Re Edward Elborn > Hello to Helen Wallis, > It's Janette here from Australia. I was interested in your > email of the 6th January re Edward ELBORN. > I have oodles of ELBORN...various spellings...in my connected file from > Little Shelford, Cambridgeshire. I looked up & found an Edward > chris.29.6.1837 Little Shelford, Cambridgeshire. Seeing Martha Vango > married Wm Partridge in London 1855 I thought she'd probably be born > c.1835 so my Edward could be a possibility .Query?...when did William > Partridge die? > Re Edward ELBORN I haven't got any marriage info.for him or his death > either recorded. Edward's parents were Thomas ELBOURNE 1791-1849 & Sarah > Ann AUSTIN who married 11.4.1816 in Little Shelford.& they had 8 children. > I reckon this Edward could be your missing Edward who had 3 children with > Martha Partridge nee Vango . > I have lots of Cambridge families intermarried into my Mansfield / > Newling lines including Elbourne various spellings. > > Regards, > Janette Pfeifer in Oz > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' > without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

Hello to Helen Wallis, It's Janette here from Australia. I was interested in your email of the 6th January re Edward ELBORN. I have oodles of ELBORN...various spellings...in my connected file from Little Shelford, Cambridgeshire. I looked up & found an Edward chris.29.6.1837 Little Shelford, Cambridgeshire. Seeing Martha Vango married Wm Partridge in London 1855 I thought she'd probably be born c.1835 so my Edward could be a possibility .Query?...when did William Partridge die? Re Edward ELBORN I haven't got any marriage info.for him or his death either recorded. Edward's parents were Thomas ELBOURNE 1791-1849 & Sarah Ann AUSTIN who married 11.4.1816 in Little Shelford.& they had 8 children. I reckon this Edward could be your missing Edward who had 3 children with Martha Partridge nee Vango . I have lots of Cambridge families intermarried into my Mansfield / Newling lines including Elbourne various spellings. Regards, Janette Pfeifer in Oz

Whilst the intentions of those producing the petition might be laudable, the petition itself might have attracted a better chance of success if it had been accurate. The 1931 census was completely destroyed by bombing during WWII so no amount of petitioning can get it released. In respect of the 1911, the National Archives has already announced that it hopes to release that census in early 2009 after the work required digitising it and producing indices [name and address] has been completed. Sensitive information [lunacy etc.] will be withheld until 2012. Given the vast amount of work involved, two years seems very reasonable. And, before anyone asks, there was no census in 1941! So this just leaves the 1921 census out of the three listed in the petition I have sent this reply only to the Cambridgeshire list and not cross posted to the lists of which I am not a member. Best Wishes Alan Craven ----- Original Message ----- From: "Roger Partridge" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]>; <[email protected]>; <[email protected]>; <[email protected]>; <[email protected]> Cc: "Norman PARTRIDGE." <[email protected]> Sent: Tuesday, January 09, 2007 4:36 PM Subject: [ENG-CAMS] 1911 Census. > Hi, Listers ! > > I think that a lot of us would like to see the 1911 Census > before January 1912. The URL for this Petition to the > Prime Minister has already appeared on the Norfolk, > Suffolk and Glamorgan Lists, and I hope that some more > of you would like to join in ? > > Best Wishes, Roger. > -------------- > > If you copy and paste the following link it'll lead you to a > petition to the > Prime Minister to reduce the classified period for census data from 100 > years to 70 years. You must be a UK resident. > Maybe, just maybe if enough people sign.... > Please feel free to copy to other sites. > > > _http://petitions.pm.gov.uk/CensusInfoFreed/_ > (http://petitions.pm.gov.uk/CensusInfoFreed/) > - - > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' > without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

"Roger Partridge" <[email protected]> wrote : > I think that a lot of us would like to see the 1911 Census > before January 1912. The URL for this Petition to the > Prime Minister has already appeared on the Norfolk, > Suffolk and Glamorgan Lists, and I hope that some more > of you would like to join in ? <snip> This petition has been overtaken by other events. See the National Archives article at http://www.nationalarchives.gov.uk/1911census/?homepage=news It appears that most of the census will be available from 2009. John B Leic., Eng

Hi, Listers ! I think that a lot of us would like to see the 1911 Census before January 1912. The URL for this Petition to the Prime Minister has already appeared on the Norfolk, Suffolk and Glamorgan Lists, and I hope that some more of you would like to join in ? Best Wishes, Roger. -------------- If you copy and paste the following link it'll lead you to a petition to the Prime Minister to reduce the classified period for census data from 100 years to 70 years. You must be a UK resident. Maybe, just maybe if enough people sign.... Please feel free to copy to other sites. _http://petitions.pm.gov.uk/CensusInfoFreed/_ (http://petitions.pm.gov.uk/CensusInfoFreed/) - -

Islington, pre 1920'S , is in Middlesex, but now London. Shrewabury is in Shropshire, some records use an abreviated version as 'Salop' ----- Original Message ----- From: "georgia de salvo" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Tuesday, January 09, 2007 12:49 AM Subject: [ENG-CAMS] Dumb Geography question???? > What Parish or County is Islington, Shrewsbury, and Shropshire in??? My > Mom went to London almost 7 years ago, and can't remember details like > that, but expects me to figure out her ancestry...LOL.... TIA, Georgia > from New Orleans area... > > --------------------------------- > Cheap Talk? Check out Yahoo! Messenger's low PC-to-Phone call rates. > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' > without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > >

Islington is a London Borough, but was in the county of Middlesex; Shrewsbury is in the county of Shropshire; Shropshire is a county sometimes also called Salop. J On 9 Jan 2007, at 00:49, georgia de salvo wrote: > What Parish or County is Islington, Shrewsbury, and Shropshire > in??? My Mom went to London almost 7 years ago, and can't remember > details like that, but expects me to figure out her > ancestry...LOL.... TIA, Georgia from New Orleans area...

Hi, Georgia ! Islington used to be a village just outside London - now it is an inner London suburb ! Shrewsbury is the county town of Shropshire - in the west of England, near Wales ! Neither of them are anywhere near Cambridgeshire !! Best Wishes, Roger. ------------------- On 9 Jan 2007, at 00:49, georgia de salvo wrote: > What Parish or County is Islington, Shrewsbury, and Shropshire > in??? My Mom went to London almost 7 years ago, and can't remember > details like that, but expects me to figure out her > ancestry...LOL.... TIA, Georgia from New Orleans area... > > --------------------------------- > Cheap Talk? Check out Yahoo! Messenger's low PC-to-Phone call rates. > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to ENG- > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' > without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

WISBECH DEANERY MAGAZINE - April 1890 S.S.PETER and PAUL, WISBECH Baptisms - Mar 2nd, Louisa, Daughter of William Edward and Harriet HEPHER 3rd, Sarah, Daughter of Robert and Eliza MALTKIN Marriages - Mar 4th, Charles ATKIN, of Lincoln, to Ethel ISLIP, of Wisbech 16th, Charles COOLIN, of Long Eaton, to Sarah Ann TAYLOR, of Wisbech 16th, Benjamin GARFORD to Emily GIBSON, of Wisbech Burials - Feb 27th, William SPRUCE, aged 71 years 27th, Susan OGDEN, aged 71 years Mar 5th, Ethel HARPER, aged 2 years 7th, Thomas IMAGE, aged 31 years 14th, Hannah POOLEY, aged 96 years 15th, Lydia ASHTON, aged 91 years S. AUGUSTINE'S, WISBECH Baptism - March 16th, Mabel OAKLEY Marriage - March 5th, George Alfred TRUMPESS to Frances Ann MOXON COLDHAM Coldham has suffered much during the past ten weeks from the epidemic of influenza, which in many cases has assumed a serious and alarming aspect. We have had close upon a hundred cases in all, with six deaths in six weeks, and we have reason to be thankful that the mortality has not been greater. Burials - March 4th, William VINCENT, aged 28 Susan Ann SHIP, aged 22 March 12th, James TURNER, aged 72 17th, Elizabeth FULLER, aged 41 ELM Marriages - March 4th, Benjamin BOOR and Elizabeth Ann RINGHAM 10th, Robert LAKE and Susan CRANE Burials - March 4th, Margaret HERCOCK, 46 years 7th, Elizabeth Sarah BOOTH, 65 years 10th, Ann BERRY, 75 years EMNETH Burial - March 5th, Frederick William WARD, aged 11 months GUYHIRN with RING'S END and THORNEY TOLL Baptisms - March 23rd, Arthur Sidney, son of Elijah and Elizabeth BETTS also Florence Elizabeth, daughter of Henry and Elizabeth COULSON Burials - March 9th, John HOCKLEY, Ring's End, aged 68 years also, David BENNETT, Guyhirn, aged 10 months TYDD S. GILES On Sunday evening, March 16th, the congregation worshipping in the Parish Church were alarmed by a cry of "Fire". The house lateley occupied by Mr Wm ANDRES and his son, from some hitherto unexplained cause caught fire, and being an old thatched building, was speedily burned to the ground. The house is situate to the east of the church and about 20 yards distant from it. The falmes burst out about 7pm. The startling cry of " Fire" naturally caused a great deal of excitement amongst the large congregation assembled in the Church, and serious consequences might have ensued had it not been for the good common sense shown by alarge number who kept their seats. The men whose services might prove useful and many others at once left the building, and the service was brought to an abrupt termination. Considerable apprehension at one time prevailed lest the flames should be carried across the road, as on a previous occasion 8 years ago, to the buildings and stacks belonging to Mr WILSON, and all means were used to obviate this danger, which fortunately was averted, and the conflagration was confined to the spot where it first broke out. Baptisms- March 23rd, Dorothy Annie, daughter of Alexander Wm and Ellen Louisa CURSON Burials - March 12th, Thomas LAKEY, aged 4 years 16th, Sarah Jane LAKEY, aged 18 years WISBECH S. MARY Baptism - March 5th, Charles Herbert, son of Jacob and Mary Ann GARNER

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