fascinating, many thanks. On 06/02/07, paul and pat <[email protected]> wrote: > what a treat to read!!! > pat from iowa > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Roger Partridge" <[email protected]> > To: <[email protected]> > Sent: Tuesday, February 06, 2007 9:54 AM > Subject: Re: [ENG-CAMS] Wisbech Deanery Magazine - December 1890 > > > > Hi, Maureen & List ! > > > > I second Lesley's "Thanks" - I started reading through them in the > > hope that I > > would find some snippets about my wife's grandmother who was born in > > Wisbech - no such luck, but they were still very interesting and gave > > a very > > good insight into life at the time ! > > > > Many thanks for all your efforts ! Roger. > > -------------------- > > On 6 Feb 2007, at 15:42, Lesley Powell wrote: > > > >> They have, indeed, been very interesting. I have really enjoyed > >> reading > >> some of the extra notes that have been put in - the language and > >> phraseology > >> is wonderful. Would that some of the reports in today's parish > >> magazines > >> were so complimentary! > >> > >> Thank you again. > >> > >> Lesley > >> > >> ----- Original Message ----- > >> From: "Maureen Rust" <[email protected]> > >> To: "Cambridgeshire Mailing List" <[email protected]> > >> Sent: Tuesday, February 06, 2007 11:57 AM > >> Subject: [ENG-CAMS] Wisbech Deanery Magazine - December 1890 > >> > >> > >>> Here it is - the last one, I hope they have been useful to some of > >>> you, > >>> and interesting to the rest. > >>> > >>> > >> > >> > > > > > > > > ------------------------------- > > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' > > without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

Between you, you seem to have this Webber/Flowers/Fogg/Bowles thing tied up. Are we still looking for a marriage or are you both now convinced she married abroad? Christine Peterborough ----- Original Message ----- From: "Hubert Flowers" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Monday, February 05, 2007 4:25 AM Subject: Re: [ENG-CAMS] MARRIAGE SEARCH > Madeleine Webber born 1868 India ,her parents married march 1841 > Peterborough .mother > was Isabella Catherine Bristow ,father Thomas Edward Webber father died > 1868 > India. > Madeline married Hubert Henry Flowers there first son born 35 church > lane,Banbury > march 24 1888 second son Thomas Edward Flowers born april 1890 cork > ireland > i have birth record of HUBERT AND THOMAS also service records of the two > Hubert H Flowers served queens own oxfordshire hussars 1914 1919.Thomas > served > British navy 1914 to 1916 then enlisted in army 1916 to 1919. > there father Hubert H Flowers served British army then joined the navy. > on the navy rolls it was once correct they changed the year from 1866 to > 1888. > Madeline Webber Flowers married the second time about 1921 to Harry Bowles > she passed 1965 at age 96 Peterborough Her resting place is Bluebell woods > at > Peterborough crematorium,with all of the searching i have done for some > reason > not able to find marriage of HUBERT and MADELINE ,also Hubert that came to > the states > returned to england 1937.also lookin for info on him. > Regards Hubert > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Paula Patterson" <[email protected]> > To: <[email protected]> > Sent: Sunday, February 04, 2007 7:13 PM > Subject: Re: [ENG-CAMS] MARRIAGE SEARCH > > >> Madeleine WEBBER was born in Lahore, India. No idea what happened to her >> father but her mother (Isabella Catherine) then remarried in India to an >> Edward FOGG. Edward and Isabella had a son Edward in Lahore and then they >> then returned to England. They had another son George in Oxfordshire and >> that is where you'll find Madeline (as Madeline A M FOGG) with her mother >> (Isabella Catherine) and stepfather in 1881. Her halfbrothers were at >> boarding school in Oxfordshire with a boy aged 15 called Hubert H >> FLOWERS. >> >> Madeline seems to have married Hubert H FLOWERS (I guess the same boy who >> at >> school with her halfbrothers in 1881) at some point before 1888 which is >> when she had a son in Banbury called Henry Hubert FLOWERS. She also had a >> son in about 1889 in Ireland and then appeared with her mother and >> halfbrothers in Banbury in the 1891 census. Her 2 sons (Henry & Thomas >> FLOWERS) were in the workhouse in the 1901 census but I couldn't spot >> Madeline when I checked last time. >> >> I suspect that Madeline married Hubert overseas (probably Ireland). >> Henry >> Hubert FLOWERS (her son) was in the navy and then worked in the merchant >> navy. At some point he settled in the USA. >> >> HTH >> >> >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' >> without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >> >> >> -- >> No virus found in this incoming message. >> Checked by AVG Free Edition. >> Version: 7.1.411 / Virus Database: 268.17.24/668 - Release Date: 2/4/2007 >> >> > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' > without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Hi, Maureen & List ! I second Lesley's "Thanks" - I started reading through them in the hope that I would find some snippets about my wife's grandmother who was born in Wisbech - no such luck, but they were still very interesting and gave a very good insight into life at the time ! Many thanks for all your efforts ! Roger. -------------------- On 6 Feb 2007, at 15:42, Lesley Powell wrote: > They have, indeed, been very interesting. I have really enjoyed > reading > some of the extra notes that have been put in - the language and > phraseology > is wonderful. Would that some of the reports in today's parish > magazines > were so complimentary! > > Thank you again. > > Lesley > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Maureen Rust" <[email protected]> > To: "Cambridgeshire Mailing List" <[email protected]> > Sent: Tuesday, February 06, 2007 11:57 AM > Subject: [ENG-CAMS] Wisbech Deanery Magazine - December 1890 > > >> Here it is - the last one, I hope they have been useful to some of >> you, >> and interesting to the rest. >> >> > >

They have, indeed, been very interesting. I have really enjoyed reading some of the extra notes that have been put in - the language and phraseology is wonderful. Would that some of the reports in today's parish magazines were so complimentary! Thank you again. Lesley ----- Original Message ----- From: "Maureen Rust" <[email protected]> To: "Cambridgeshire Mailing List" <[email protected]> Sent: Tuesday, February 06, 2007 11:57 AM Subject: [ENG-CAMS] Wisbech Deanery Magazine - December 1890 > Here it is - the last one, I hope they have been useful to some of you, > and interesting to the rest. > >

Seconded! Paula ----- Original Message ----- From: "S. Walker" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Tuesday, February 06, 2007 1:29 PM Subject: Re: [ENG-CAMS] Wisbech Deanery Magazine - December 1890 > "Here it is - the last one, I hope they have been useful to some of you, > and > interesting to the rest." > > They certainly have been interesting, many thanks for posting them! > > Sharon > > > > -- > No virus found in this outgoing message. > Checked by AVG Free Edition. > Version: 7.5.432 / Virus Database: 268.17.27/671 - Release Date: > 05/02/2007 > 16:48 > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' > without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > -- > This email has been verified as Virus free > Virus Protection and more available at http://www.plus.net > > > -- > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG Free Edition. > Version: 7.5.432 / Virus Database: 268.17.27/671 - Release Date: > 05/02/2007 16:48 > >

"Here it is - the last one, I hope they have been useful to some of you, and interesting to the rest." They certainly have been interesting, many thanks for posting them! Sharon -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.432 / Virus Database: 268.17.27/671 - Release Date: 05/02/2007 16:48

what a treat to read!!! pat from iowa ----- Original Message ----- From: "Roger Partridge" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Tuesday, February 06, 2007 9:54 AM Subject: Re: [ENG-CAMS] Wisbech Deanery Magazine - December 1890 > Hi, Maureen & List ! > > I second Lesley's "Thanks" - I started reading through them in the > hope that I > would find some snippets about my wife's grandmother who was born in > Wisbech - no such luck, but they were still very interesting and gave > a very > good insight into life at the time ! > > Many thanks for all your efforts ! Roger. > -------------------- > On 6 Feb 2007, at 15:42, Lesley Powell wrote: > >> They have, indeed, been very interesting. I have really enjoyed >> reading >> some of the extra notes that have been put in - the language and >> phraseology >> is wonderful. Would that some of the reports in today's parish >> magazines >> were so complimentary! >> >> Thank you again. >> >> Lesley >> >> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: "Maureen Rust" <[email protected]> >> To: "Cambridgeshire Mailing List" <[email protected]> >> Sent: Tuesday, February 06, 2007 11:57 AM >> Subject: [ENG-CAMS] Wisbech Deanery Magazine - December 1890 >> >> >>> Here it is - the last one, I hope they have been useful to some of >>> you, >>> and interesting to the rest. >>> >>> >> >> > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' > without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

Here it is - the last one, I hope they have been useful to some of you, and interesting to the rest. SS. PETER AND PAUL, WISBECH Baptisms - Nov 2nd, George CARTER, Henry CARTER 14th, Emily Ann NEWLING, Alice Mary HOULDEN 21st, Charlotte PHEONIX 23rd, John WEST Marriages - Nov 2nd, George SOUTH to Flora WILLIAMS, of Wisbech 4th, James ROBERTS, of Wereham, to Lucy CULY, of Wisbech 8th, William HANSED to Louisa DENT, of Wisbech Burials - Nov 6th, Elizabeth EARL, aged 24 years 7th, Charles GARNER, aged 72 years 16th, Edward William HALL, aged 58 years 23rd, Susannah King ELLIS, aged 14 years S. AUGUSTINE'S, WISBECH Baptisms - 14th November, Mary Elizabeth SHIP 15th, Mary Ann ABBOTT 19th, Violet Ethel BOYCE, Grace Sophia BOYCE, Joseph SABEY, Annie SABEY, Julia Alice SABEY, Elizabeth SABEY Marriages - 5th Nov, Frederick Walter SCOTT to Ellen SMALLS William Hubert SMITH to Lydia BUTCHER COLDHAM, The parish has sustained a loss in the death of its Churchwarden, Mt Carroll HUMPHREY, which, to the regret pf all who knew him, happened on the 5th of November. He had reached the ripe age of 74 years, and for the last 35 years had been a resident in Coldham. When our parish was formed and the Church built, he rendered willing and substantial aid in their construction; and when, by the lamented death of the late H J LITTLE in January last, the office of Warden was vacated, the parishioners unanimously chose Mr HUMPHREY to fill the office which he has thus held for so short a period. His funeral was largely attended, and was made as bright as circumstances permitted by the addition of hymns in Church and at the grave. In all the relations of life, as husband, father, amster, neighbour, friend, Mr HUMPHREY's loss will be severely felt. Burials - Nov 8th, Carroll HUMPHREY, aged 74 17th Susannah HENSON, aged 87 ELM Baptisms - Nov 9th, Emily, daughter of Fred and Louisa BELLAMY 13th, (privately), John William, son of John and Elizabeth SMITH Marriage - Oct 29th, John Thomas Kilborn BETTISON and Ellen Jane BURTON Burial - Nov 17th, John William SMITH, infant EMNETH Marriages - Nov 16th, William Charles QUINCE to Harriet BURLINGHAM 25th, James GROMETT to Rebekah Eleanor BECKINGTON Burial - Nov 3rd, William Lancaster BALDING, aged 52 years FRIDAYBRIDGE Baptism - Nov 13th, Harriet Mabel, daughter of daniel and Harriet BROWN ( privately) Marriage - Nov 19th, William GEE and Mary Wood STOCKDALE Burials - Nov 14th, Alfred JOHNSON, aged 1 month 15th, Harriet BROWN, aged 32 years 21st, Joseph BALDOCK, aged 31 years Mr Daniel BROWN desires to place on record his sense of thankfulness to his friends and neighbours for all their kindness to his late wife during her last illness, as well as to himself under the heavy bereavement which he has been called upon to sustain. The sympathy so generally expressed has helped materially to lighten his load. GUYHIRN with RING'S END and THORNEY TOLL Baptisms- Oct 29th, Ethel, daughter of James and Amanda HUSTLER, also Ada May, daughter of Richard and Harriet ROWE Nov 9th, Ada, daughter of Samuel and Mary SMITH 23rd, John William, son of John and Emma MOULDS Burial - Nov 12th, Stephen HIRCOCK, aged 63 years. LEVERINGTON Lucy, for nearly fifty years the beloved and loving wife of the Rev Frederick CARLYON, rector of Leverington, after a long time of patient suffering, passed to her rest on the 21st of November, and was borne to her grave in Leverington Churchyard, on the following Tuesday, amid many signs of loving sorrow. The chief part in the Burial Office was taken by the Rev John Vavasour DURELL, Rector of Fulbourne, son-in-law of the deceased, the lesson being read by the Rev A BECK, and the last prayer, with the benediction, said by the rev F H COX. SOUTHEA with MURROW Southea - We should like to remind parents whose children are baptized privately, that they are not then half baptized, as it is commonly called, but truly and validly baptized, so that, as the Prayer Book says, if such a child should die before it commits actual sin it is undoubtedly saved; and that if such children " do afterwards live", they ought to be brought to the Church as soon as possible to be received as members of " the flock of true Christian people". Murrow - Baptisms - Oct 26th, Harry Clifton JARVIS WISBECH S. MARY Baptisms - Nov 6th, John Robert, son of Robert and Betsey HURRELL Confirmed - Nov 17th, John Allen FOSTER, Frank Wilson STEWARD, Eleanora FOSTER, Louisa Maude KILHAM, Mary Rebecca WATERFALL, and Sarah PARKER Married - Nov 5th, Robert John ALLEN and Theresa TAWN

I think we should give a big rousing cheer the MRS ALSORTS, for the work that been put in for our benefit. Wisbech Deanery Magazine has been a joy to read what wonderful work and such dedication My Thanks Margaret Notts.

SS. PETER AND PAUL, WISBECH Baptisms - Oct 5th, Mary Elizabeth FRIEND, Daniel FRIEND, Walter POPE 10th, Frank Lawrence BURDETT 23rd, Lucy Ethel STANNARD Marriages - Sept 29th, James BRIGHTON to Harriett HOTSON, of Wisbech Oct 4th, William Leonard REID to Frances Headen CRABB, of Wisbech 14th, Edward PARFERY to Sarah Elizabeth HUNT, of Wisbech Charles LEMMON to Matilda GATHERCOLE, of Wisbech 16th, Robert BROWN, of Crowland, to Lizzie SPOONER, of Wisbech 19th, John Thomas HUNT to Flora WILLIAMS, of Wisbech Burials - Oct 4th, William WILSON, aged 67 years 6th, Martha LEE, aged 75 years 16th, James OGDEN, aged 72 years S. AUGUSTINE'S, WISBECH Much sympathy is felt for Mr and Mrs G BRISTOW, in the loss of their infant son. The Church institute was re-opened for the winter on Monday October 13th, with a "Social Evening", about 30 members being present. A debate on "Smoking" took place on Monday, Oct 20th. A negative motion, brought forward by Allam, was opposed by Register, and carried by a large majority. Baptisms - Oct 5th, Mabel Mary BAKER 23rd, Edward CAMPLIN Marriages - Oct 5th, Frederick Walter SCOTT to Ellen SMALL 26th, William Herbert SMITH to Lydia BUTCHER COLDHAM Baptism - Oct 12th, May HALL, daughter of Harry and Annie HALL, Upwell Marriages - Oct 19th, George HOPKIN to Edith Laura MARTIN 13th, Henry REEVE to Ellen TYERS ELM On Monday, the 20th of October, the Church bell sounded its solemn note of farewell to one whom only a few days before, we had little expected to lose. Alice, the much-loved wife of Mr W HUBBARD, had been ailing for a week or two, but without serious cause for alarm till two or three days before she died. Happily she had so lived that death could hardly take her by surprise. By her own desire she received her last Communion, with her husband and her most intimate friend, on Sunday morning, the 19th, and on Monday, with clear faith and hope, said farewell to all whom she loved in this world, and calmly fell asleep " in Jesus". Her place of burial, by her own desire, was in the churchyard of East Winch, Norfolk, the scene of her baptism, her confirmation and her marriage. She had been married only nine years, and had not quite completed her thirty-second year of life. Baptism - Oct 12th, Mabel, daughter of James William and Susannah ALLEN EMNETH Marriage - Oct 15th, William WALKER Jun, to LOUISA DOUBLEDAY Burials - Oct 3rd, Leonard THOMPSON, aged 15 months 14th, Mary BARKER, aged 60 years 16th, Ann LYNN, aged 62 years FRIDAYBRIDGE Marriage - Oct 10th, George William GOWLER and Elizabeth VALLOW GUYHIRN with RONG'S END and THORNEY TOLL Guyhirn National School - Ellen SAVAGE, pupil teacher in this school, has recently passed the Queen's Scholarship Examination at Lincoln. She will be prepared to accept an appointment as assistant mistress after Christmas, and can be thotoughly recommended by the Vicar and School Managers. In the examination of pupil teachers in Religious Knowledge, held at Wisbech, in June last, Olive GILBY, second year pupil teacher in Guyhirn School passed in the first class; and Edith BRITTAIN, second class Baptism - Oct 19th, Horace, son of Thomas and Annie COUSINS, Guyhirn Burial - Oct 1st, Leonard Sargison REDHEAD, Guyhirn, aged 4 months LEVERINGTON Baptism - Oct 5th, Lillian Gitta, daughter of Alfred Brister and Jane BRITTAIN Marriages - Oct 12th, William Logan DAY to Ellen SMALLEY 21st, James Samuel MISSIM to Lucy MELTON Burials - Oct 19th, Abraham Dawson MATTHEWS, aged 11 months 21st, Joseph FOSTER, aged 70 years. WISBECH S. MARY Baptisms- Oct 11th, Bertha Louisa, daughter of George and Annie Louisa MARRIOTT 21st, Georgina TAWN Married - Oct 15th, John Henry AFFORD and Mary Ann WINTERTON 23rd, Robert ALLEN and Sarah Ann SKELLS Buried - ( At Leverington), Oct 21st, Joseph FOSTER, aged 70 years.

Barbara, I wish it did, i am taking note of your information, but it doesnt fit in with what i have so far. Thanks for the information, and good luck in your searchs ------------------------------ Message: 6 Date: Sun, 4 Feb 2007 17:31:32 -0000 From: Subject: Re: [ENG-CAMS] RE Panife and EDWARDS To: Message-ID: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Hello Margaret, I too have Pannifer in my husband's tree. >From the family Bible we know that William Pannifer b 06 11 1837 at Sproughton, Suffolk married on 11 03 1861 to Harriet Steel in sproughton. They had nine children of whom Matilda Mary b 25 11 1876 married Herbert Pearce, my husband's grandfather. He was a Sergeant of Police in Chatteris Cambs. William was soldier and his children were born in Ireland, Hampshire, Ottawa, Hochalaga (also Canada), Dover, Turnham Green and the youngest, Herbert, in Hounslow Barracks. Does this help at all? I have not yet started to explore this line any further but will hope to get round to it soon. Regards Barbara Coordinating FreeCens for LND Whitechapel and parts of Bethnal Green, Mile End and Stepney. For further information see the website: http://freecen.rootsweb.com --------------------------------- Sucker-punch spam with award-winning protection. Try the free Yahoo! Mail Beta.

Eunice, Wow what a great link thanks for mentioning it. Gayla [email protected] wrote: ------------------------------ Message: 3 Date: Mon, 5 Feb 2007 04:43:48 +1100 From: "Eunice Goude" Subject: Re: [ENG-CAMS] MARRIAGE SEARCH To: Message-ID: <[email protected]> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Hi there I checked in Findmypast and there is no marriage as far as I can see between the dates 1884-88 so maybe she married later Good Luck Eunice - Down under ----- Original Message ----- From: "Hubert Flowers" ============================================================================ ====== > i need some help with a brick wall i hope some one out there in the world of genealogy > can help .searching for marriage of Madeline Webber from Peterborough about 1887 . > she was born 1868 .i have checked BMD . > thank you > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > --------------------------------- Never Miss an Email Stay connected with Yahoo! Mail on your mobile. Get started!

sorry stilll nothing I can see in the same time frame of a marriage 1884-1888. Eunice ----- ----- From: "Hubert Flowers" snip > i need some help with a brick wall i hope some one out there in the world of genealogy > can help .searching for marriage of Madeline Webber from Peterborough about 1887 . > she was born 1868 .i have checked BMD . > thank you > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > >

sorry please ignore my last email as i was searching in the births not the marriages lol Eunice ----- Original Message ----- From: "Hubert Flowers" <= > i need some help with a brick wall i hope some one out there in the world of genealogy > can help .searching for marriage of Madeline Webber from Peterborough about 1887 . > she was born 1868 .i have checked BMD . > thank you > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > >

Hi there I checked in Findmypast and there is no marriage as far as I can see between the dates 1884-88 so maybe she married later Good Luck Eunice - Down under ----- Original Message ----- From: "Hubert Flowers" ============================================================================ ====== > i need some help with a brick wall i hope some one out there in the world of genealogy > can help .searching for marriage of Madeline Webber from Peterborough about 1887 . > she was born 1868 .i have checked BMD . > thank you > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > >

Madeleine WEBBER was born in Lahore, India. No idea what happened to her father but her mother (Isabella Catherine) then remarried in India to an Edward FOGG. Edward and Isabella had a son Edward in Lahore and then they then returned to England. They had another son George in Oxfordshire and that is where you'll find Madeline (as Madeline A M FOGG) with her mother (Isabella Catherine) and stepfather in 1881. Her halfbrothers were at boarding school in Oxfordshire with a boy aged 15 called Hubert H FLOWERS. Madeline seems to have married Hubert H FLOWERS (I guess the same boy who at school with her halfbrothers in 1881) at some point before 1888 which is when she had a son in Banbury called Henry Hubert FLOWERS. She also had a son in about 1889 in Ireland and then appeared with her mother and halfbrothers in Banbury in the 1891 census. Her 2 sons (Henry & Thomas FLOWERS) were in the workhouse in the 1901 census but I couldn't spot Madeline when I checked last time. I suspect that Madeline married Hubert overseas (probably Ireland). Henry Hubert FLOWERS (her son) was in the navy and then worked in the merchant navy. At some point he settled in the USA. HTH

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Hi Can't even see a birth registration for her 1867,68 or 69 in the indexes, and definitely no marriage 1886, 87,or 88. Can't find her in any census's either not around Peterborough. Do you have any other details? Christine Peterborough ----- Original Message ----- From: "Hubert Flowers" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Sunday, February 04, 2007 1:20 PM Subject: [ENG-CAMS] MARRIAGE SEARCH > i need some help with a brick wall i hope some one out there in the > world of genealogy > can help .searching for marriage of Madeline Webber from Peterborough > about 1887 . > she was born 1868 .i have checked BMD . > thank you > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' > without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Madeleine Webber born 1868 India ,her parents married march 1841 Peterborough .mother was Isabella Catherine Bristow ,father Thomas Edward Webber father died 1868 India. Madeline married Hubert Henry Flowers there first son born 35 church lane,Banbury march 24 1888 second son Thomas Edward Flowers born april 1890 cork ireland i have birth record of HUBERT AND THOMAS also service records of the two Hubert H Flowers served queens own oxfordshire hussars 1914 1919.Thomas served British navy 1914 to 1916 then enlisted in army 1916 to 1919. there father Hubert H Flowers served British army then joined the navy. on the navy rolls it was once correct they changed the year from 1866 to 1888. Madeline Webber Flowers married the second time about 1921 to Harry Bowles she passed 1965 at age 96 Peterborough Her resting place is Bluebell woods at Peterborough crematorium,with all of the searching i have done for some reason not able to find marriage of HUBERT and MADELINE ,also Hubert that came to the states returned to england 1937.also lookin for info on him. Regards Hubert ----- Original Message ----- From: "Paula Patterson" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Sunday, February 04, 2007 7:13 PM Subject: Re: [ENG-CAMS] MARRIAGE SEARCH > Madeleine WEBBER was born in Lahore, India. No idea what happened to her > father but her mother (Isabella Catherine) then remarried in India to an > Edward FOGG. Edward and Isabella had a son Edward in Lahore and then they > then returned to England. They had another son George in Oxfordshire and > that is where you'll find Madeline (as Madeline A M FOGG) with her mother > (Isabella Catherine) and stepfather in 1881. Her halfbrothers were at > boarding school in Oxfordshire with a boy aged 15 called Hubert H FLOWERS. > > Madeline seems to have married Hubert H FLOWERS (I guess the same boy who > at > school with her halfbrothers in 1881) at some point before 1888 which is > when she had a son in Banbury called Henry Hubert FLOWERS. She also had a > son in about 1889 in Ireland and then appeared with her mother and > halfbrothers in Banbury in the 1891 census. Her 2 sons (Henry & Thomas > FLOWERS) were in the workhouse in the 1901 census but I couldn't spot > Madeline when I checked last time. > > I suspect that Madeline married Hubert overseas (probably Ireland). Henry > Hubert FLOWERS (her son) was in the navy and then worked in the merchant > navy. At some point he settled in the USA. > > HTH > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' > without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > -- > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG Free Edition. > Version: 7.1.411 / Virus Database: 268.17.24/668 - Release Date: 2/4/2007 > >

Hello Margaret, I too have Pannifer in my husband's tree. >From the family Bible we know that William Pannifer b 06 11 1837 at Sproughton, Suffolk married on 11 03 1861 to Harriet Steel in sproughton. They had nine children of whom Matilda Mary b 25 11 1876 married Herbert Pearce, my husband's grandfather. He was a Sergeant of Police in Chatteris Cambs. William was soldier and his children were born in Ireland, Hampshire, Ottawa, Hochalaga (also Canada), Dover, Turnham Green and the youngest, Herbert, in Hounslow Barracks. Does this help at all? I have not yet started to explore this line any further but will hope to get round to it soon. Regards Barbara Coordinating FreeCens for LND Whitechapel and parts of Bethnal Green, Mile End and Stepney. For further information see the website: http://freecen.rootsweb.com -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]]On Behalf Of [email protected] Sent: 01 February 2007 09:57 To: [email protected] Subject: [ENG-CAMS] RE Panife and EDWARDS TXBLUEBONT wrote: I am new to the list and i want to find more about my Edwards ancestors my first question would be where did the Panifer come from. I found on the 1851 census . listed below how it is seen on census New Street Cambridge William EDWARDS 50 shoe maker born BOSON lincs Elizabeth dau 15 John 10 Mary A .wife 49 nurse b Suffolk Sarah A PANFOR( sic) unmarried. seamstress It looks likely that this is a second wife and all the subsequent children had the name PANIFR as a middle name 1841 MARY is a farm servant in Suffolk I then found a marriage Mary Ann PANNEFOR married Charles EDWARDS 1844 Jan qtr Warm GENE regards Margaret NOTTS UK ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message