Thank you so much - who would ever have thought of SHARLOW??? The mind boggles! Cheers Ray in Brisbane -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Sylvia Rawlings Sent: Sunday, 29 April 2007 11:15 PM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [ENG-CAMS] 1861 census 1861 Census RG9; Piece: 1027; Folio: 83; Page: 11; 3 Foundry Yard, Cambridge St Clement CAM Charles Sharlow 24 abt 1837 Conington, Hampshire, England Head Cambridge St Clement Cambridgeshire.....Labourer. Harriet Sharlow 22 abt 1839 Kuspwell, Hampshire, England Wife Cambridge St Clement Cambridgeshire Note that the county is shown incorrectly - in both cases it is Hunts, not Hants and Harriet's place of birth is Knapwell. Plus their surname has been transcribed as Sharlow and not Thurlow Sylvia in Perth, Western Australia On 4/29/07, Ray Thurlow <[email protected]> wrote: > Hi from down under (Australia that is) > > I have a note in my database that states a Charles THURLEY and Harriet (his > wife) - appears in the 1861 census (RG9 piece 1027 83 St Clements, not sure > if there should be more detail - I do know that this refers to Cambridge). I > have been trying on Ancestry to locate this entry but unsuccessfully. The > surname may appear as THURLOW or THURLEY but I have tried both to no avail. > Can anyone tell me anything more about it? What I would like is a copy of > the entry. With thanks. > > > > Ray > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Hi, Just returning to the list after a while away. I am looking for any connection to Charles Harold HUGHES sometimes Harold Charles, Stableman, who married Elizabeth Wilderspin, in Newmarket on 11 February 1879. On the 1901 census they were still living in Newmarket but some of their children did move to Cambridge later. Two of the sons being in partnership in Cambridge as builders in the 1920/40's. On the 1881 census Charles states his birthplace as Chester and on the 1901 as Wales, his father's name was David, a bricklayer. Ironically I have come upon a brick wall to try and find Charles' birthplace. I would be grateful for any contact. Margaret

Thurling? I have a connection by marriage of cousins to THURLING of Cambs here in Oz - they were up round Albury region. I think I once found Mr Thurling was a minister or lay preacher in England - don't quote me on that - An Elizabeth THURLING married Charles BURROWES (yes he put an E in it deliberately), brother to my g gran Elizabeth BURROWS 1880s in NSW - Wagga say if I remember correctly. Charles and Elizabeth's mother, nee Elizabeth BOSSINGHAM came from Wisbech which was near enough from memory to where the THURLING family came from too, perhaps 1840s. Three Bossingham sisters arrived 1852 and I think the Thurlings came round the same period if not a bit before. I have wondered if the Thurlings and the Bossinghams knew each other back in England... Dawn (Melbourne, "down under" also) -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Ray Thurlow Sent: Sunday, 29 April 2007 9:20 PM To: [email protected] Subject: [ENG-CAMS] 1861 census Hi from down under (Australia that is) I have a note in my database that states a Charles THURLEY and Harriet (his wife) - appears in the 1861 census (RG9 piece 1027 83 St Clements, not sure if there should be more detail - I do know that this refers to Cambridge). I have been trying on Ancestry to locate this entry but unsuccessfully. The surname may appear as THURLOW or THURLEY but I have tried both to no avail. Can anyone tell me anything more about it? What I would like is a copy of the entry. With thanks. Ray ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.467 / Virus Database: 269.6.2/780 - Release Date: 29/04/2007 6:30 AM

Hi from down under (Australia that is) I have a note in my database that states a Charles THURLEY and Harriet (his wife) - appears in the 1861 census (RG9 piece 1027 83 St Clements, not sure if there should be more detail - I do know that this refers to Cambridge). I have been trying on Ancestry to locate this entry but unsuccessfully. The surname may appear as THURLOW or THURLEY but I have tried both to no avail. Can anyone tell me anything more about it? What I would like is a copy of the entry. With thanks. Ray

1861 Census RG9; Piece: 1027; Folio: 83; Page: 11; 3 Foundry Yard, Cambridge St Clement CAM Charles Sharlow 24 abt 1837 Conington, Hampshire, England Head Cambridge St Clement Cambridgeshire.....Labourer. Harriet Sharlow 22 abt 1839 Kuspwell, Hampshire, England Wife Cambridge St Clement Cambridgeshire Note that the county is shown incorrectly - in both cases it is Hunts, not Hants and Harriet's place of birth is Knapwell. Plus their surname has been transcribed as Sharlow and not Thurlow Sylvia in Perth, Western Australia On 4/29/07, Ray Thurlow <[email protected]> wrote: > Hi from down under (Australia that is) > > I have a note in my database that states a Charles THURLEY and Harriet (his > wife) - appears in the 1861 census (RG9 piece 1027 83 St Clements, not sure > if there should be more detail - I do know that this refers to Cambridge). I > have been trying on Ancestry to locate this entry but unsuccessfully. The > surname may appear as THURLOW or THURLEY but I have tried both to no avail. > Can anyone tell me anything more about it? What I would like is a copy of > the entry. With thanks. > > > > Ray > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

Has anyone access to the Ely Cathedral Archives? Arthur Thomas BANNISTER was ordained deacon at Ely in 1889 (Source Crockford's). Can anyone look up the exact date for me please? With ever hopeful thanks! Alec Whitfield from North Herefordshire UK [email protected]

RG9/1027 folio 83A 3 Foundry Yard, St Clement, Cambridge Charles Thurlow head marr 24 labourer b Conington, Hunts Harriet Thurlow wife 22? b Knapwell Hunts Indexed as Sharlow Regards David Ray Thurlow <[email protected]> a écrit : Hi from down under (Australia that is) I have a note in my database that states a Charles THURLEY and Harriet (his wife) - appears in the 1861 census (RG9 piece 1027 83 St Clements, not sure if there should be more detail - I do know that this refers to Cambridge). I have been trying on Ancestry to locate this entry but unsuccessfully. The surname may appear as THURLOW or THURLEY but I have tried both to no avail. Can anyone tell me anything more about it? What I would like is a copy of the entry. With thanks. Ray ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message --------------------------------- Découvrez une nouvelle façon d'obtenir des réponses à toutes vos questions ! Profitez des connaissances, des opinions et des expériences des internautes sur Yahoo! Questions/Réponses.

Hi Bob Thank you for replying to my query. I think William was a sailor so maybe he was at sea at the time of the census. Thank you once again. Warm Regards Julia

Hi All William WRIGHT of Foxton was hanged in 1802 in Cambridge for passing forged notes. He was born circa 1760 and married first Elizabeth WHENHAM (WENHAM) and second Sarah PLAISE, both in Foxton. Though there were lots of WRIGHTs in Foxton I have been unable to find matching parents for William on the Parish Records. I wonder if anyone can offer a suggestion. He was my 5xg grandfather. Thanks Beryl Beryl O'Gorman Greensborough Victoria Australia

Hi Beryl, Unfortunately, I don't have any additional info, but wanted to let you know that I am related to the Wrights of Foxton, as well -- William was also my 5th great grandfather and that's as far as I've gotten. Did you get the information about William's forgery from the book "The Common Stream" or "The Aussies of England, Ireland, and Scotland" or some other source? The latter book says that William had a brother named Edward born 1749 in case that's helpful, but no parents are listed. Please feel free to write me off list if you have any questions. Nancy McCrave Rochester, New York, USA -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]]On Behalf Of Beryl O'Gorman Sent: Wednesday, April 25, 2007 8:01 AM To: [email protected] Subject: [ENG-CAMS] William WRIGHT hanged 1802 Hi All William WRIGHT of Foxton was hanged in 1802 in Cambridge for passing forged notes. He was born circa 1760 and married first Elizabeth WHENHAM (WENHAM) and second Sarah PLAISE, both in Foxton. Though there were lots of WRIGHTs in Foxton I have been unable to find matching parents for William on the Parish Records. I wonder if anyone can offer a suggestion. He was my 5xg grandfather. Thanks Beryl Beryl O'Gorman Greensborough Victoria Australia ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Hi Julia Many thanks for that very quick reply Best Wishes Fay

Hi Julia > Would there be anyone who could do me a lookup on the 1841 census. I am > looking for information on William Ripingill [ various spellings] and his > wife Rebecca nee Webster. They were married in St Peter's church Wisbech > in 1840. Their ages were 25 & 26 at the time of the marriage.< I have tried all sorts of combinations of spellings but cannot get anything for this surname at all, except searching on exact surname on ancestry brings up two marriages for a William The one you mention in 1840 and another same RD in 1848 Bob Hutchins Email: [email protected] Website & Genealogy Database www.bobhutchins.me.uk

Hello Everyone WILLIAM MORLEY was born about 1752 and he married SARAH SMITH on 12 Oct 1772 in Haslingfield, Could someone please have a look at the Haslingfield Parish records for the marriage and see if it gives a village of birth for William. I don't know if it is shown so long ago Many thanks for that Fay (Australia)

Hi, I'm new to the list. Would there be anyone who could do me a lookup on the 1841 census. I am looking for information on William Ripingill [ various spellings] and his wife Rebecca nee Webster. They were married in St Peter's church Wisbech in 1840. Their ages were 25 & 26 at the time of the marriage. Ant help would be greatly appreciated. best Wishes Julia

> WILLIAM MORLEY was born about 1752 and he married SARAH SMITH on 12 Oct > 1772 in Haslingfield, > > Could someone please have a look at the Haslingfield Parish records for > the marriage and see if it gives a village of birth for William. I don't > know if it is shown so long ago Following is the info from Haslingfield PR's: 12 Oct 1772 William MORLEY (x) (Bn bac) & Sarah SMITH (x) (Bn sp) botp Wit: Daniel COXALL jun Jn FOLKES Best wishes, Julia Henderson

Thank you to everybody who responded to my request for clarification of the above. I wrote to the Oxford Dictionary to find out why they defined uncle the way they did and suggested that they make at a distinction between a uncle by blood and an uncle by marriage as a convention. I received the following replay today - >Thank you for your message. The English language is noticeably lacking in specific terms for relationships, and we often receive enquiries from bewildered foreigners requiring equivalents for terms in their own languages, such as those which distinguish between paternal and maternal grandparents, or cousins of varying degrees. It does not appear, historically speaking, that the distinction you make has been recognized in law; I have found nothing on the subject in our large collection of legal dictionaries. The OED does mention the term UNCLE-IN-LAW as meaning 'the husband of one's aunt', but with no evidence later than 1779. As all our dictionary definitions are based on evidence of actual use, the fact that we do not normally distinguish between blood relations and relations by marriage is what influences the form of this definition.< So there you have it. Bob O.

Just my luck!! ----- Original Message ----- From: "Bob Hutchins" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Wednesday, April 18, 2007 1:02 AM Subject: Re: [ENG-CAMS] What is an Uncle > It probably is as much about convention as anything. In real terms he is > an > Uncle through marriage, therefore > if he divorced your Wife's Sister technically he would no longer be an > uncle. > > Mind you it looks like your lumbered with him :-) > > Bob Hutchins > Email: [email protected] > Website & Genealogy Database www.bobhutchins.me.uk > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Bob Ollier" <[email protected]> > To: <[email protected]> > Sent: Tuesday, April 17, 2007 3:51 PM > Subject: Re: [ENG-CAMS] What is an Uncle > > >> Thanks Bob, he is indeed the husband of my wifes sister. I can't >> understand >> why Family Tree Maker gives a different relationship. Are you sure that >> this >> isn't just a convention thing and not a true relationship. I know we all >> believe as children that the man married to an aunt must be an uncle but >> that dosen't make it a fact. I hope your wrong because I don't like the >> guy >> at all. >> >> Bob O >> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: "Bob Hutchins" <[email protected]> >> To: <[email protected]> >> Sent: Tuesday, April 17, 2007 10:29 PM >> Subject: Re: [ENG-CAMS] What is an Uncle >> >> >>> Hi Bob >>> If the Brother in law in question is married to your wife's Sister then >>> yes >>> he is an uncle to your children, just as you would be to any children >>> they >>> have >>> >>> Hope this helps :-) >>> >>> >>> Bob Hutchins >>> Email: [email protected] >>> Website & Genealogy Database www.bobhutchins.me.uk >>> ----- Original Message ----- >>> From: "Bob Ollier" <[email protected]> >>> To: <[email protected]> >>> Sent: Tuesday, April 17, 2007 12:51 PM >>> Subject: [ENG-CAMS] What is an Uncle >>> >>> >>>> Hi everyone, >>>> >>>> Could somebody settle an argument please >>>> My wife has a brother-in-law and she insists that he is an uncle to our >>>> children. Every dictionary I've checked agrees with her, but I thought >>>> a >>>> blood relationship was necessary. Family Tree Maker gives the >>>> relationship >>>> as 'the husband of the aunt of ......'. Can anybody clarify this for >>>> me? >>>> Bob O >>>> >>>> ------------------------------- >>>> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >>>> [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' >>>> without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >>>> >>>> >>>> -- >>>> No virus found in this incoming message. >>>> Checked by AVG Free Edition. >>>> Version: 7.5.446 / Virus Database: 269.5.1/764 - Release Date: >>>> 17/04/2007 >>>> 04:43 >>>> >>>> >>> >>> >>> ------------------------------- >>> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >>> [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' >>> without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >>> >>> >>> -- >>> No virus found in this incoming message. >>> Checked by AVG Free Edition. >>> Version: 7.5.446 / Virus Database: 269.5.0/763 - Release Date: >>> 16/04/2007 >>> 5:53 PM >>> >>> >> >> >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' >> without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >> >> >> -- >> No virus found in this incoming message. >> Checked by AVG Free Edition. >> Version: 7.5.446 / Virus Database: 269.5.1/764 - Release Date: 17/04/2007 >> 04:43 >> >> > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' > without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > -- > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG Free Edition. > Version: 7.5.446 / Virus Database: 269.5.0/763 - Release Date: 16/04/2007 > 5:53 PM > >

Thanks Bob, he is indeed the husband of my wifes sister. I can't understand why Family Tree Maker gives a different relationship. Are you sure that this isn't just a convention thing and not a true relationship. I know we all believe as children that the man married to an aunt must be an uncle but that dosen't make it a fact. I hope your wrong because I don't like the guy at all. Bob O ----- Original Message ----- From: "Bob Hutchins" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Tuesday, April 17, 2007 10:29 PM Subject: Re: [ENG-CAMS] What is an Uncle > Hi Bob > If the Brother in law in question is married to your wife's Sister then > yes > he is an uncle to your children, just as you would be to any children they > have > > Hope this helps :-) > > > Bob Hutchins > Email: [email protected] > Website & Genealogy Database www.bobhutchins.me.uk > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Bob Ollier" <[email protected]> > To: <[email protected]> > Sent: Tuesday, April 17, 2007 12:51 PM > Subject: [ENG-CAMS] What is an Uncle > > >> Hi everyone, >> >> Could somebody settle an argument please >> My wife has a brother-in-law and she insists that he is an uncle to our >> children. Every dictionary I've checked agrees with her, but I thought a >> blood relationship was necessary. Family Tree Maker gives the >> relationship >> as 'the husband of the aunt of ......'. Can anybody clarify this for me? >> Bob O >> >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' >> without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >> >> >> -- >> No virus found in this incoming message. >> Checked by AVG Free Edition. >> Version: 7.5.446 / Virus Database: 269.5.1/764 - Release Date: 17/04/2007 >> 04:43 >> >> > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' > without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > -- > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG Free Edition. > Version: 7.5.446 / Virus Database: 269.5.0/763 - Release Date: 16/04/2007 > 5:53 PM > >

Hi everyone, Could somebody settle an argument please My wife has a brother-in-law and she insists that he is an uncle to our children. Every dictionary I've checked agrees with her, but I thought a blood relationship was necessary. Family Tree Maker gives the relationship as 'the husband of the aunt of ......'. Can anybody clarify this for me? Bob O

On 17 Apr, CGG <[email protected]> wrote: > Aside from that, the terms uncle and aunt tended to be pretty loosely > applied. My mother's brothers-in-law were always known to me as 'Uncle' > - but then so were the unmarried partners of both my grandmothers! Yes I agree and it was most confusing. I was told to refer to countless adults as "Uncle and Aunty" and grew up thinking they were part of my family. It wasn't until I started researching my family tree that I found out who my real family were - and weren't! -- Christine Pampling