Hi, I am doing a big and noisy happy dance. I have just found a "new" rellie who has given me all the info on the above families. I can not believe it. I have been searching for these families for many years. One of the gentlemen I was looking for I knew as Leonard P. GILL but was found as Leo PAYNE-GILL. Just shows you have to think out of the square doesn't it. Yahoooo! Helen in New Zealand