Definitely one possibility is that it's the same person. However, it's just as possible that George died and James married his widowed sister-in-law. My gg-grandfather on my mother's side married two sisters and my wife's gg-grandfather married three sisters. This was not uncommon in those days so it's definitely a possibility. Regards, Edgar Cross --- Sandra J Smith <[email protected]> wrote: > Hi Judy, > Another possibility is that your James Jakes was > actually a James George > Jakes or George James Jakes and they are one and the > same person? > Sandra > > elista wrote: > > >Hi List, > > > >Here is the situation: > > > >In my search for info on my ancestor, James JAKES ( > JAQUES /JACQUES /JACKES ) I found what I looked like > a new firstborn child, born in Haddenham in 1852, > from the 1861 census of Barking, Essex, where they > lived at that time. Before that, I thought all their > children were born in Essex, from the 1871 and 1881 > census records. I have not been able to find his > marriage record anywhere, with wife Mary Ann > Edwards, from Feltwell, Norfolk. In hopes of finding > some clue, I decided to order the birth certificate > for the birth of this child born in Haddenham in > 1852. I just rec'd the certificate, and it lists the > mother as Mary Ann JAKES ( formerly EDWARDS ) but it > lists the father as a George Jakes. Now James did > have a brother named George, who was 10 years older > than him. Back in November, when I sent a message to > this list, I rec'd a kind reply with a 1851 census > record of a George Jakes and wife Mary ( born > Feltwell, Norfolk ) in Townside, Haddenham with 3 > children. I'm relativ! > e! > > ly sure this is James brother as George's > occupation is listed as a ropemaker, and this is a > JAKES family occupation. > > > >So, my question is: what are the chances of two > brothers both marrying a Mary Ann Edwards from > Feltwell, Norfolk? Could it be that George Jakes > died later in 1851 or 1852/53 or so, and his younger > brother married the wife? ( Or maybe never married > the wife, thus no marriage record ) ? James and Mary > had children born starting about 1854, in Barking, > Essex. I have not found a death record for George > around 1851/52 on the free BMD site. > > > >I was wondering if SKS could do a look-up in the > 1861 census to see if George is still there with his > wife Mary. I'm thinking if they are still there, > then we know for sure there are 2 Mary's, as I > already have the 1861 census record for James Jakes > and his wife Mary. > >Thanking you all in advance for any help and/or > suggestions about this. > >Judy Carleton, in sunny but cold Alberta, Canada > > > > > >============================== > >Search Family and Local Histories for stories about > your family and the > >areas they lived. Over 85 million names added in > the last 12 months. > >Learn more: http://www.ancestry.com/s13966/rd.ashx > > > > > > > > > > > > ============================== > Search the US Census Collection. Over 140 million > records added in the > last 12 months. Largest online collection in the > world. Learn more: > http://www.ancestry.com/s13965/rd.ashx > > ===== Edgar H Cross View My Genealogy Research and Guide at http://www.ehcross.com __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Mail - now with 250MB free storage. Learn more. http://info.mail.yahoo.com/mail_250