Hi Sherrie I found this family in 1891, could they be yours? 46 Denmark Rd, Lambeth John N Thoms, Head, 27, Gardener, born Amersham, Bucks Jane Thoms, Wife, 27, born Mursley, Bucks George N Thoms, Son, 1, born London, Lambeth Jenny ----- Original Message ----- From: "Joe Emery" <joeemery@btinternet.com> To: <eng-buckinghamshire@rootsweb.com> Sent: Tuesday, June 24, 2008 10:16 PM Subject: Re: [ENG-Buck] request census-look-up/TOMS/1889/BuckinghamshireCounty > Hello Sherrie. I cannot see John & Jane in any census - nor any of their > children. Did they emigrate ? > I see John Norris' birth registered 1863 Dec.Qtr. Amersham 3a 359. Not in > 1865. I see also the confusing marriages on FreeBMD of a Jane Dickens in > 1889 March Qtr. Amersham 3a 585 to George Morris Toms and (another?) John > Morris Toms. Both on the same page - so I don't know what that signifies. > I > canot see those in censuses either. > In 1881 at Amersham there is a John N.Toms age 17 b.Amersham, at home with > his parents George Toms age 58 b.Amersham and his mother Mahalia Toms age > 56 > b.Abbotts Langley, Herts.and three other children. That is the only > reference I found to a John N.Toms. In 1871 all the family were at > Amersham > (listed under the surname of "Fones") including two daughters, Mahalia 14 > and Mary A. 12. > In 1891 George 62 and Mahalia 66 were still in Amersham (with a footnote > :- > "also as George Torris") > In 1851 George 22 and Mahalia 28, a straw plaiter, were in Amersham with a > daughter Sarah Ann age 1 b.Amersham and a Sophia E.Ricketts age 5 > "daughter > before marriage" b.Watford. Not very helpful perhaps but that is all I > found. Best wishes. Joe > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "S Smith" <ssmith87@bellsouth.net> > To: <ENG-BUCKINGHAMSHIRE@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Tuesday, June 24, 2008 8:52 PM > Subject: [ENG-Buck] request census-look-up/TOMS/1889/Buckinghamshire > County > > >> Hi All, >> Could someone please do a census look-up on my GG-grandparents. >> Any information you be greatly appreciated! >> Thank-you >> Sherrie >> >> JOHN NORRIS TOMS (GEORGE NORRIS1) was born 07 Dec 1865 in England, He >> married JANE DICKENS 1889 in Amersham, Buckinghamshire County, England, >> daughter of DICKENS and UNKNOWN. She was born Sep 1865. >> >> Children of JOHN TOMS and JANE DICKENS are: >> >> 3. i. GEORGE NORRIS TOMS, b. 30 Nov 1889, Buckinghamshire County, >> Buckingham, England. >> >> ii. SIDNEY JOESPH TOMS, b. Sep 1894, Shoredith, Middlesex County, >> England. >> >> 4. iii. MABLE ALICE L. TOMS, b. Oct 1897, Camberwell, England. >> _____________________________________________ >> >> Have you considered adding "postems" to "your" events on >> www.freebmd.org.uk , giving your contact details? Other researchers will >> then be able to make contact. Click on the info button to add your >> postem. >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> ENG-BUCKINGHAMSHIRE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' >> without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- > > > > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG. > Version: 8.0.101 / Virus Database: 270.4.1/1516 - Release Date: 6/24/2008 > 7:53 AM > > _____________________________________________ > > Have you considered adding "postems" to "your" events on > www.freebmd.org.uk , giving your contact details? Other researchers will > then be able to make contact. Click on the info button to add your postem. > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > ENG-BUCKINGHAMSHIRE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' > without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG. Version: 8.0.100 / Virus Database: 270.4.1/1516 - Release Date: 24/06/2008 07:53

Hi Everyone Help please !!. Looking for James JUDD born circa 1824. And his wife Ann DIBDEN, Ann born in Wiltshire. Both deceased in New Forest 1900 and 1899.Have one son Jmaes Dibden JUDD born Dec 1864. rregards Tony

Armed with everything below, you should be able to build up quite a picture. If you get some certificates, to confirm details, the Amersham parish register transcript, & perhaps some searches, you should be able to find out a lot more. Mursley appears to have only submitted entries on the IGI, & most of the baptisms in the parish registers haven't been transcribed (the marriages & deaths are complete up to about 1900) - but whoever submitted the Mursley IGI entries has covered the Dickens family rather thoroughly, including some deaths, back to 1779 Certificates (£7 each from http://www.gro.gov.uk/gro/content/certificates/ - a prompt & efficient service References from FreeBMD - http://freebmd.rootsweb.com/cgi/search.pl Parish register transcripts & searches from http://www.bucksfhs.org.uk/ They have published Amersham. Paul Census, etc. entries - 1841 census Wheilden Street, Common Platt, Amersham, Buckinghamshire Ann TOMS 46 Y (i.e. born in Buckinghamshire) Mary 23 Y Catherine 20 Y James 15 Y George 13 Y John 10 Y Ann 8 Y Emily 3 Y Also - High Street (different houses) - 1 John TOMS 75 Ag Lab Y & Mary 40 Y 2 Catherine TOMS 60 Shopkeeper Y 3 Ann TOMS 55 Ind Y 1851 census Common Platt, Amersham James TOMS 57 Labourer Ann wife 57 John son 20 Chairmaker Ann dau 17 Straw Platter Emiley dau 11 Straw Platter All born Amersham Swan Yard, Amersham George TOMS 22 Labourer b Amersham Mahalia wife 28 Straw Platter b Abbots Langley Hertfordshire Sarah Ann dau b Amersham Sophia E 5 born Watford Daur. before marriage 1861 census The Platt, Amersham James TOMS 76 Agricultural Labourer born Amersham Ann wife 76 b Amersham The Platt, Amersham George TOMS 32 Labourer b Amersham Mahalia 36 wife b Abbots Langley Hertfordshire Sarah A daughter 11 Susannah dau 8 Joseph son 7 Mahalia dau 4 Mary A dau 2 All children "Scholar", born Amersham 1871 census Union Street, The Platt George TOMS 42 Labourer Mahalia wife 46 b Abbots Langley Hertfordshire Joseph son 17 Labourer Mahalia dau 14 Scholar Mary A dau 12 ditto John M son 7 do Reuben E son 5 do Arthur son 2 months All born Amersham except wife 1881 census - Wheilden Street, Amersham Name Relation Marital Status Gender Age Birthplace Occupation Disability George TOMS Head Male 58 Amersham, Buckingham, England Farm Lab Mahalia TOMS Wife Female 56 Abbotts Langley, Hertford, England Joseph TOMS Son Male 27 Amersham, Buckingham, England Farm Lab John N. TOMS Son U Male 17 Amersham, Buckingham, England Farm Lab Reuben E. TOMS Son Male 15 Amersham, Buckingham, England Farm Lab Arthur TOMS Son Male 10 Amersham, Buckingham, England Scholar 1891 census - The Platt, Amersham George TOMS 62 Agricultural Labourer Mahalia 66 usual birthplaces In 1901 - (without payin, I can only search the index, & can't view households) Lambeth John M THOMS 37 born Amersham Bucks Domestic Gardener Jane THOMS 37 born Mursley Bucks Geo U THOMS 11 b Lambeth Sydney THOMS 7 b Lambeth Mabel THOMS 3 b Lambeth Check for Jane Dickens born Mursley about 1864 - 1871 census, Mursley, Bucks George DICKENS 40 Agricultural Labourer born Mursley Emma 35 wife born Swanbourne, Bucks *Jane dau 7* Fanny dau 5 Rosoman (!) son 2 children born Mursley 1861 census - George & Emma in Mursley - 31 & 27, Ag lab & straw plaiter Marriage in IGI - Mursley, 04 Oct 1853 - Emma ALDMAN (Alderman?) FreeBMD ref Dec 1853 quarter, Winslow district, volume 3a page 699 1851 census - George 21 son of Thomas 47 b Mursley, Susanna 46 b Grendon Underwood, Bucks 1841 census - George 12 son of Thomas, 35, ag lab, & Susannah, 30 Eldest child Pheby, 14 Aylesbury, 25 Sep 1827 Thomas Dickens OTP mar Susanna HOWES of Twiford - connected? Or not?