Hello Sandra I notice your email address was Wilmots etc. My mother was Esme Grace WILLMOT born in Toowoomba, Qld. We are descended from Willmots who lived in Slough Buckinghamshire. I also have GOODALL in Chalvey & Upton. I know the spelling is different, but I have known the name to be spent a few ways. Do you think there is any connection? Pam in Brisbane Australia Researching COOPER, BAKER, BECKWITH, GOOD, PETCHEY, BELL, WHITLOCK (ESSEX) BARRELL, BARKER (SUFFOLK) HULLEY, WRIGHT, HULLY, PIKE (MDX & CHESHIRE) WILLMOT, KINNEAR, FELMINGHAM, GOODALL (QLD, UK, SCOTLAND) ANDERSON, ROBERTSON, BRUCE (SCOTLAND) SIGSTON, THOMSON, SIMS (UK & BARBADOS) ----- Original Message ----- From: "wilmots" <wilmots@optusnet.com.au> To: <ENG-BUCKINGHAMSHIRE@rootsweb.com> Sent: Wednesday, May 02, 2007 6:20 PM Subject: [ENG-Buck] LANE END Hi everyone Can anyone assist me with the name of the church at Lane End in 1850. I have a Marriage certificate that just says Parish of Lane End. I have Googled on this but the only information that I can find says Lane End was created in 1867. Regards Sandra Melbourne Australia
Hi Troy Thank you for the website. I did find that but there was nothing to indicate when the church had been built, so I am still unsure whether this one was where my ancestors married. Thanks Sandra
Hi Shirley Thank you for responsing to my post, I will certainly follow up on the Wesleyan church. Thanks Sandra
Hi Paul I did find that website, but as I mentioned in my post it states that Lane End is a modern parish found in 1867 and I need to go back a few years to 1850. Thanks Sandra ----- Original Message ----- From: <fh@brazell.net> To: <eng-buckinghamshire@rootsweb.com> Sent: Wednesday, May 02, 2007 6:35 PM Subject: Re: [ENG-Buck] LANE END Hi Sandra, Sounds like Google didn't find this page: http://met.open.ac.uk/genuki/big/eng/BKM/LaneEnd/Index.html Cheers, Paul Berlin, Germany ----- Original Message ----- From: wilmots To: ENG-BUCKINGHAMSHIRE@rootsweb.com Sent: Wednesday, May 02, 2007 10:20 AM Subject: [ENG-Buck] LANE END Hi everyone Can anyone assist me with the name of the church at Lane End in 1850. I have a Marriage certificate that just says Parish of Lane End. I have Googled on this but the only information that I can find says Lane End was created in 1867. Regards Sandra Melbourne Australia _____________________________________________ Any problems, please contact the List Admin: ENG-BUCKINGHAMSHIRE-admin@rootsweb.com ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to ENG-BUCKINGHAMSHIRE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message
Hi Sandra Yes this is correct Holy Trinity Church. This is what it looks like http://www.countyviews.com/bucks/church2.htm Kind Regards Troy QLD, AUST >From: <fh@brazell.net> >Reply-To: eng-buckinghamshire@rootsweb.com >To: <eng-buckinghamshire@rootsweb.com> >Subject: Re: [ENG-Buck] LANE END >Date: Wed, 2 May 2007 10:35:14 +0200 > >Hi Sandra, > >Sounds like Google didn't find this page: >http://met.open.ac.uk/genuki/big/eng/BKM/LaneEnd/Index.html > >Cheers, >Paul >Berlin, Germany > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: wilmots > To: ENG-BUCKINGHAMSHIRE@rootsweb.com > Sent: Wednesday, May 02, 2007 10:20 AM > Subject: [ENG-Buck] LANE END > > > Hi everyone > > Can anyone assist me with the name of the church at Lane End in 1850. I >have a Marriage certificate that just says Parish of Lane End. I have >Googled on this but the only information that I can find says Lane End was >created in 1867. > > Regards > Sandra > Melbourne Australia > _____________________________________________ > > Any problems, please contact the List Admin: >ENG-BUCKINGHAMSHIRE-admin@rootsweb.com > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >ENG-BUCKINGHAMSHIRE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' >without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > _____________________________________________ > >Any problems, please contact the List Admin: >ENG-BUCKINGHAMSHIRE-admin@rootsweb.com >------------------------------- >To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >ENG-BUCKINGHAMSHIRE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' >without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message _________________________________________________________________ Join the millions of Australians using Live Search. Try live.com.au http://ninemsn.com.au/share/redir/adTrack.asp?mode=click&clientID=740&referral=million&URL=http://live.com.au
Hi everyone Can anyone assist me with the name of the church at Lane End in 1850. I have a Marriage certificate that just says Parish of Lane End. I have Googled on this but the only information that I can find says Lane End was created in 1867. Regards Sandra Melbourne Australia
Anthony, I think you will find Varney's in Great Horwood which is not far from Fenny Stratford. Sandra CL1016V@aol.com wrote: >Hi everyone > >I am looking for any information on my BUCKINGHAMSHIRE ancestry. > >Although I have previously sent a similar eMail, I have now found new family >members who might be linked to another lister. > >Family: >HOLYOAK (from Newport Pagnell) - George (b. approx 1788, not from >Lillingstone Lovell though!). He was married twice and settled down in Northampton. I >am looking for his parents!! > >His sister (I believe) Sarah married WILLIAM VARNEY (Verney?) in 1815 in >Newport Pagnell. >William was born approx. 1786 in Fenny Stratford, Bucks. >I am also looking for any details of the VARNEY family from Fenny Stratford, >primarily William's parents/siblings. > >Can anyone help? > >Thanks & rgds >Anthony > > > > > _____________________________________________ > >Any problems, please contact the List Admin: ENG-BUCKINGHAMSHIRE-admin@rootsweb.com >------------------------------- >To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to ENG-BUCKINGHAMSHIRE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > >
Hi Sandra Noted with interest your query re Lane End. I am researching ancestors in that area including Hambledon. I was there during the summer of last year and saw Holy Trinity church. Have just found out that there was a Wesleyan church also which interests me as my Lane End grandfather was a Wesleyan lay preacher who emigrated to Australia in 1911. My research names, just in case, are: Guttridge, Trendal and Tilbury. Good hunting. Shirley Sutton.
Hi Sandra, Sounds like Google didn't find this page: http://met.open.ac.uk/genuki/big/eng/BKM/LaneEnd/Index.html Cheers, Paul Berlin, Germany ----- Original Message ----- From: wilmots To: ENG-BUCKINGHAMSHIRE@rootsweb.com Sent: Wednesday, May 02, 2007 10:20 AM Subject: [ENG-Buck] LANE END Hi everyone Can anyone assist me with the name of the church at Lane End in 1850. I have a Marriage certificate that just says Parish of Lane End. I have Googled on this but the only information that I can find says Lane End was created in 1867. Regards Sandra Melbourne Australia _____________________________________________ Any problems, please contact the List Admin: ENG-BUCKINGHAMSHIRE-admin@rootsweb.com ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to ENG-BUCKINGHAMSHIRE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message
Hi everyone I am looking for any information on my BUCKINGHAMSHIRE ancestry. Although I have previously sent a similar eMail, I have now found new family members who might be linked to another lister. Family: HOLYOAK (from Newport Pagnell) - George (b. approx 1788, not from Lillingstone Lovell though!). He was married twice and settled down in Northampton. I am looking for his parents!! His sister (I believe) Sarah married WILLIAM VARNEY (Verney?) in 1815 in Newport Pagnell. William was born approx. 1786 in Fenny Stratford, Bucks. I am also looking for any details of the VARNEY family from Fenny Stratford, primarily William's parents/siblings. Can anyone help? Thanks & rgds Anthony
----- Original Message ----- From: "betty" <bkrhodes@bigpond.net.au> To: <feng-buckinghamshire@rootsweb.com> Sent: Monday, April 23, 2007 4:15 PM Subject: Re: [ENG-Buck] Buckinghamshire regiments > POSSIBLE. > > The Queens Own Hussars > > 299th Bucks Yeomanry > > Royal Bucks Regiment, > > Oxford and Bucks Light Infantry.... > > Have you any clues Rank Name ???? > > betty > btw. Marlow is not far from 'Windsor Castle'.. > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "diane roscoe" <fraggle.roscoe@hotmail.co.uk> > To: <eng-buckinghamshire@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Monday, April 23, 2007 9:07 AM > Subject: [ENG-Buck] Buckinghamshire regiments > > >> Hello, >> Would anyone be able to advise me on the most likely regiment that a man >> from the Marlow/Wooburn area would join in the 1830 - 1840's. >> Thank you >> Diane >> >> _________________________________________________________________ >> Could you be the guest MSN Movies presenter? Click Here to Audition >> http://www.lightscameraaudition.co.uk >> >> _____________________________________________ >> >> Any problems, please contact the List Admin: >> ENG-BUCKINGHAMSHIRE-admin@rootsweb.com >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> ENG-BUCKINGHAMSHIRE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' >> without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >> >
If he was in the 14th before 1825, he might have known Thomas Washington. :) Paul > > From: "Liane Fenimore" <liane@columbus.rr.com> > Date: 2007/04/23 Mon PM 12:04:14 GMT > To: <eng-buckinghamshire@rootsweb.com> > Subject: Re: [ENG-Buck] Buckinghamshire regiments > > Mine in 1825 went into the 98th Foot (from East Claydon). Another, some > years earlier, went into the 14th Foot and several later went into the Royal > Horse Artillery. Enlisted in Northampton. > > Liane ----------------------------------------- Email sent from www.virginmedia.com/email Virus-checked using McAfee(R) Software and scanned for spam
Hello Paul, Thank you. I've tried that. Unfortunately, his name was Dunwoody, (I have tried quite a few variations), even worse, his brother-in-law was called Clendining! Thanks again Diane >From: <pauljirving@ntlworld.com> >Reply-To: eng-buckinghamshire@rootsweb.com >To: <eng-buckinghamshire@rootsweb.com> >Subject: Re: [ENG-Buck] Buckinghamshire regiments >Date: Mon, 23 Apr 2007 9:44:32 +0000 > >Perhaps you should look for his army records. You don't need to know the >regiment for that. > >Try here - > >http://www.nationalarchives.gov.uk/ > >I've got the discharge papers, with a summary of service (where & when >enlisted, where & when discharged, promotions/demotions, medals, >courts-martial, physical description, wounds, etc) for two relatives. One >enlisted 1800s, discharged 1820s, the other (his nephew) served >1820s-1840s. > >You need to find the reference in the catalogue (search on his name - and >be prepared to try variations of the spelling), then you can buy the >document online using the reference. It'll be posted to you. > >The department or series code should be WO (for War Office) > >Paul > > > > From: "diane roscoe" <fraggle.roscoe@hotmail.co.uk> > > Date: 2007/04/22 Sun PM 11:07:58 GMT > > To: eng-buckinghamshire@rootsweb.com > > Subject: [ENG-Buck] Buckinghamshire regiments > > > > Hello, > > Would anyone be able to advise me on the most likely regiment that a man > > from the Marlow/Wooburn area would join in the 1830 - 1840's. > > Thank you > > Diane > > > > _________________________________________________________________ > > Could you be the guest MSN Movies presenter? Click Here to Audition > > http://www.lightscameraaudition.co.uk > > > > _____________________________________________ > > > > Any problems, please contact the List Admin: >ENG-BUCKINGHAMSHIRE-admin@rootsweb.com > > ------------------------------- > > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >ENG-BUCKINGHAMSHIRE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' >without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > >----------------------------------------- >Email sent from www.virginmedia.com/email >Virus-checked using McAfee(R) Software and scanned for spam > > _____________________________________________ > >Any problems, please contact the List Admin: >ENG-BUCKINGHAMSHIRE-admin@rootsweb.com >------------------------------- >To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >ENG-BUCKINGHAMSHIRE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' >without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message _________________________________________________________________ Txt a lot? Get Messenger FREE on your mobile. https://livemessenger.mobile.uk.msn.com/
Hello, Thank you for all the suggestions. I did find a Buckinghamshire regiment, (I think it was the 14th), but couldn't find any reference on the Kew Archive catalogue. I have no rank number for this man, only the fact that he married an Irish woman, but the marriage doesn't show up on the BMD index, (of course he not have properly married her!). His brother-in-law, who married in england, was a 'soldier' on his son's birth. I began to wonder if my ancestor was stationed in Ireland, and married there. He was a coachman on his return to England. I know that it's all very tenuous, but everything about this man is vague, from his age to place of birth of birth, (both are different on virtually every census), so I'm quite happy to clutch at a few straws and look into the possiblity of him once being in the army. Thank you again Diane _________________________________________________________________ Interest Rates NEAR 39yr LOWS! $430,000 Mortgage for $1,299/mo - Calculate new payment http://www.lowermybills.com/lre/index.jsp?sourceid=lmb-9632-19132&moid=14888
BTW, just finding him in the catalogue will tell you his regiment. e.g. my relative George Washingtons catalogue entry says - Scope and content - GEORGE WASHINGTON Born LINGERSHALL, Buckinghamshire Served in 40th Foot Regiment Discharged aged 39 Covering dates - 1825-1846 "Lingershall" should be Ludgershall. Misspelt in the original, then mistranscribed. His uncle Thomas is catalogued as - THOMAS WASHINGTON Born LINGASSON, Buckinghamshire Served in 14th Foot Regiment Discharged aged 40 Even worse! But at least their names were correct. Pau; > > From: "diane roscoe" <fraggle.roscoe@hotmail.co.uk> > Date: 2007/04/22 Sun PM 11:07:58 GMT > To: eng-buckinghamshire@rootsweb.com > Subject: [ENG-Buck] Buckinghamshire regiments > > Hello, > Would anyone be able to advise me on the most likely regiment that a man > from the Marlow/Wooburn area would join in the 1830 - 1840's. > Thank you > Diane > > _________________________________________________________________ > Could you be the guest MSN Movies presenter? Click Here to Audition > http://www.lightscameraaudition.co.uk > > _____________________________________________ > > Any problems, please contact the List Admin: ENG-BUCKINGHAMSHIRE-admin@rootsweb.com > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to ENG-BUCKINGHAMSHIRE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > ----------------------------------------- Email sent from www.virginmedia.com/email Virus-checked using McAfee(R) Software and scanned for spam
Perhaps you should look for his army records. You don't need to know the regiment for that. Try here - http://www.nationalarchives.gov.uk/ I've got the discharge papers, with a summary of service (where & when enlisted, where & when discharged, promotions/demotions, medals, courts-martial, physical description, wounds, etc) for two relatives. One enlisted 1800s, discharged 1820s, the other (his nephew) served 1820s-1840s. You need to find the reference in the catalogue (search on his name - and be prepared to try variations of the spelling), then you can buy the document online using the reference. It'll be posted to you. The department or series code should be WO (for War Office) Paul > > From: "diane roscoe" <fraggle.roscoe@hotmail.co.uk> > Date: 2007/04/22 Sun PM 11:07:58 GMT > To: eng-buckinghamshire@rootsweb.com > Subject: [ENG-Buck] Buckinghamshire regiments > > Hello, > Would anyone be able to advise me on the most likely regiment that a man > from the Marlow/Wooburn area would join in the 1830 - 1840's. > Thank you > Diane > > _________________________________________________________________ > Could you be the guest MSN Movies presenter? Click Here to Audition > http://www.lightscameraaudition.co.uk > > _____________________________________________ > > Any problems, please contact the List Admin: ENG-BUCKINGHAMSHIRE-admin@rootsweb.com > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to ENG-BUCKINGHAMSHIRE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > ----------------------------------------- Email sent from www.virginmedia.com/email Virus-checked using McAfee(R) Software and scanned for spam
Mine in 1825 went into the 98th Foot (from East Claydon). Another, some years earlier, went into the 14th Foot and several later went into the Royal Horse Artillery. Enlisted in Northampton. Liane ----- Original Message ----- From: "NKA" <nka@shaw.ca> To: <eng-buckinghamshire@rootsweb.com> Sent: Sunday, April 22, 2007 8:07 PM Subject: Re: [ENG-Buck] Buckinghamshire regiments > My guess would be the 52nd (Oxfordshire) Regiment of Foot (Light Infantry) > > This regiment later amalgamated with the 43rd (Monmouthshire) Regiment of > Foot (Light Infantry) (1881) to become what ultimately was named the > Oxford and Bucks Light Infantry. > > Be interested to see if anyone has any other ideas. > > Best regards > > Norman > > Norman K Archer > Victoria BC Canada > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: diane roscoe > To: eng-buckinghamshire@rootsweb.com > Sent: Sunday, April 22, 2007 4:07 PM > Subject: [ENG-Buck] Buckinghamshire regiments > > > Hello, > Would anyone be able to advise me on the most likely regiment that a man > from the Marlow/Wooburn area would join in the 1830 - 1840's. > Thank you > Diane > > _________________________________________________________________ > Could you be the guest MSN Movies presenter? Click Here to Audition > http://www.lightscameraaudition.co.uk > > _____________________________________________ > > Any problems, please contact the List Admin: > ENG-BUCKINGHAMSHIRE-admin@rootsweb.com > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > ENG-BUCKINGHAMSHIRE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' > without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > _____________________________________________ > > Any problems, please contact the List Admin: > ENG-BUCKINGHAMSHIRE-admin@rootsweb.com > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > ENG-BUCKINGHAMSHIRE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' > without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message
<<I had forgotten that in the 1830s and 1840s the 14th Foot had the county designation of Buckinghamshire (in 1782 it had been the 14th Bedfordshire, but in 1809 it swapped titles with the 16th Buckinghamshire). However, like all the county designations of that period it was a meaningless and disregarded affiliation - in 1882, when the regiments were given genuine county affiliations the 14th became the county regiment of West Yorkshire and has recruited there ever since.>> Doh! And there was the 85th Foot, raised in 1794 in Buckinghamshire and so given the additional title of the Bucks Volunteers - but in 1881 designated the county regiment of Shropshire and called the King's Shropshire Light Infantry. Matt
<<Thank you for all the suggestions. I did find a Buckinghamshire regiment, (I think it was the 14th>> Yes, stupid of me, I had forgotten that in the 1830s and 1840s the 14th Foot had the county designation of Buckinghamshire (in 1782 it had been the 14th Bedfordshire, but in 1809 it swapped titles with the 16th Buckinghamshire). However, like all the county designations of that period it was a meaningless and disregarded affiliation - in 1882, when the regiments were given genuine county affiliations the 14th became the county regiment of West Yorkshire and has recruited there ever since. Matt
>> Hello, >> Would anyone be able to advise me on the most likely regiment that a man >> from the Marlow/Wooburn area would join in the 1830 - 1840's. > The Queens Own Hussars > > 299th Bucks Yeomanry > > Royal Bucks Regiment, > > Oxford and Bucks Light Infantry.... I'm afraid none of these is more likely to have contained Buckinghamshire men than any other regiment or corps in the army. In the 1830s and 1840s regiments did not have exclusive recruiting districts (that did not happen until the 1880s, after the Cardwell Reforms), and every regiment sent its recruiting parties to wherever in Britain and Ireland it thought it might find volunteers - which generally meant areas where an industry was in depression (the weaving districts were often good for recruitment) or Ireland (even kilted highland regiments had a high proportion of Irishmen in the ranks). Most regiments had had county designations added to their regimental numbers ever since the 1780s, but these were purely nominal and had no influence on recruiting, or indeed on anything at all - it was the numbers by which the regiments were known. The title of some of the newer regiments did reflect their composition at the time when they had first been raised - for example the 90th Foot was also called the Perthshire Volunteers, because they had been raised there in 1794 - but by the 1830s that connection was long gone (and even at the time of their raising over a quarter of the men had been English or Irish). However in the 1830s and 1840s there were not even any regiments with Buckinghamshire as part of their title (in the regular army, that is). The Ox and Bucks Light Infantry did not acquire that name until 1908; in the 1830s and 1840s it was just the 52nd (Oxfordshire Light Infantry) Foot (in the 1860s a part-time volunteer unit called the Buckinghamshire Rifle Volunteer Corps would be formed, which in 1881 became a reserve volunteer battalion of the Oxfordshire Light Infantry, causing it later to be re-titled the Ox and Bucks LI). There were two regiments which were later known as the Queens Own Hussars, but in the 1830s and 1840s they were the 4th Queens Own Light Dragoons and the 7th Queens Own Hussars, neither of which had even a nominal connection to Buckinghamshire. There were two regiments which were named after the county and which were recruited in it, but neither was part of the regular army - they were part-time reserve units which only met for a few days training each year (if that). These were the Royal Buckinghamshire Militia and the Buckinghamshire Yeomanry Cavalry. (The 299th Bucks Yeomanry Regiment was a Territorial Army artillery regiment formed in 1947, and fairly quickly reduced to just a battery.) An excellent on-line source for the history, past names etc of British regiments is http://www.regiments.org/regiments/uk/lists/bargts.htm Matt Tompkins