Gill, in the 1841 census that family has a couple of children who look too old for their mother. Re-marriage looked likely. The burials confirmed it. A child called Hannah & a woman called Hannah buried, then a child called Hannah christened in the same place, with a different mother but a father with the same name. Paul Gill Jones wrote: > Paul > After sending me the details of William Lathwell's first marriage to Hannah I checked back with my notes. I realised that I had actually found their marriage in Chalgrave and the birth of their first two children in Eggington but I hadn't been able to connect them to any of the other known families. That's because I had only found William's second marriage to Sophia. Thanks for helping me with that connection.... > Gill > _____________________________________________ > > Have you considered adding "postems" to "your" events on www.freebmd.org.uk , giving your contact details? Other researchers will then be able to make contact. Click on the info button to add your postem. > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to ENG-BUCKINGHAMSHIRE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > >

Paul After sending me the details of William Lathwell's first marriage to Hannah I checked back with my notes. I realised that I had actually found their marriage in Chalgrave and the birth of their first two children in Eggington but I hadn't been able to connect them to any of the other known families. That's because I had only found William's second marriage to Sophia. Thanks for helping me with that connection. The VRI reference is William & Hannah's son. I also now found another of William & Hannah's children in the burial index for Slapton. Alexandra Thanks for your contact. My knowledge of the Wing branch of the family is not good. I am fairly certain that they are linked to the Eggington group. They possibly split in the 1600s. Of the names you gave me I have found all of them but like you haven't connected them up yet. I have found a Henry who was baptised in Billington (which is close to Eggington) 21/8/1679 but I haven't found any other reference to him. I have also found burials in Billington for a Faith in 1680 & a William in 1687. The earliest marriages I have found in Eggington only date back to 1794 & 1802. The earliest burial found so far in Bedfordshire is in Leighton Buzzard (this parish included Eggington at that time) in 1602. There are others from Ampthill starting 1707 and one from Maulden in 1675. You may be interested to know that in 1881 there were just 159 people with the surname Lathwell (including variations of the spelling) in the whole of the UK. Three quarters of them can be tracked back to Eggington and the rest to Wing. The only Wing family I have connected up is the one which still had people recorded in the 1881 census. I tracked them back from London and Wing itself and discovered that they were all part of the same extended family which was headed by William & Alice (nee Bateman) who married in 1782 in Soulbury. Most were living in London in 1881. I haven't discovered William's parents yet. I do have lots of other names from Wing but no links. Where they disappeared to I don't know. I don't have any of the earlier census records for Wing. That might help to link up some of the rest. Let me know if I can be of any further help. Gill

Hi list, thought I'd post my interests, William Cox ROSEwho's parents were John ROSE & Sarah Ann COX Married Alice Beatrice FARMER children WILLIAM ERIC Rose - 1898 JOHN EDMUND Rose - 1903 to 1992 ANTHONY Rose- aft 1901 ALICE WINIFRED Rose - 1906 to 1992 Any information on this family would be most appreciated, or anyone knowing any Rose researchers I might be able to contact... thanking you...............Judy from Oz

Paul what is the VRI have I missed something? Godfrey ----- Original Message ----- From: "Paul Irving" <pauljirving@ntlworld.com> To: <eng-buckinghamshire@rootsweb.com> Sent: Tuesday, October 16, 2007 8:29 PM Subject: Re: [ENG-Buck] Slapton records > Gill, > > it must be disappointing that the IGI doesn't cover Eggington back that > far. > > But I found this in the VRI - > > LATHALL, William > Wife: Eliza WALKER > Marriage Date: 9 Aug 1846 Recorded in: Edlesborough, > Buckinghamshire, England > Husband's Father: William LATHALL > Wife's Father: John WALKER > > It's inconvenient them living where three counties meet, isn't it? > > Paul > > Gill Jones wrote: >> Paul >> Thanks for the latest info. I'm also recovering from illness and that's >> why I've started re-digging. I think I've got this section of the family >> linked up now. I am fairly certain that William (b.abt.1795 Eggington) is >> a brother of my ggggrandfather. I've been trying to see how many of the >> total number of Lathwells in the 1881 census link back to Eggington. The >> answer seems to be that the majority do. >> regards >> Gill >> _____________________________________________ >> >> Have you considered adding "postems" to "your" events on >> www.freebmd.org.uk , giving your contact details? Other researchers will >> then be able to make contact. Click on the info button to add your >> postem. >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> ENG-BUCKINGHAMSHIRE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' >> without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >> >> >> > > _____________________________________________ > > Have you considered adding "postems" to "your" events on > www.freebmd.org.uk , giving your contact details? Other researchers will > then be able to make contact. Click on the info button to add your postem. > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > ENG-BUCKINGHAMSHIRE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' > without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

Gill, it must be disappointing that the IGI doesn't cover Eggington back that far. But I found this in the VRI - LATHALL, William Wife: Eliza WALKER Marriage Date: 9 Aug 1846 Recorded in: Edlesborough, Buckinghamshire, England Husband's Father: William LATHALL Wife's Father: John WALKER It's inconvenient them living where three counties meet, isn't it? Paul Gill Jones wrote: > Paul > Thanks for the latest info. I'm also recovering from illness and that's why I've started re-digging. I think I've got this section of the family linked up now. I am fairly certain that William (b.abt.1795 Eggington) is a brother of my ggggrandfather. I've been trying to see how many of the total number of Lathwells in the 1881 census link back to Eggington. The answer seems to be that the majority do. > regards > Gill > _____________________________________________ > > Have you considered adding "postems" to "your" events on www.freebmd.org.uk , giving your contact details? Other researchers will then be able to make contact. Click on the info button to add your postem. > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to ENG-BUCKINGHAMSHIRE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > >

Paul Thanks for the latest info. I'm also recovering from illness and that's why I've started re-digging. I think I've got this section of the family linked up now. I am fairly certain that William (b.abt.1795 Eggington) is a brother of my ggggrandfather. I've been trying to see how many of the total number of Lathwells in the 1881 census link back to Eggington. The answer seems to be that the majority do. regards Gill

Ooops! Slip of the fingers. John should have been 20. Paul Irving wrote: > ... > In 1851, there was a family of LATHWELLs in Slapton from Bedfordshire - > William age 56 b Egginton, Sophia age 65 b Houghton. All their children > b Slapton. Her age could be wrong, as some of the children are too young > - e.g. 9. Or maybe she was a second wife, & the children were his not > hers. Ah - > 1841 census, Slapton > William LATHWELL 40 Ag Lab N(ot born in county) > Sophira 33 N > John 30 Brickmaker Y > William 18 Ag Lab Y > Hannah 8 Y > Elizabeth 3 Y > > Plenty on FreeBMD, (useful for references for certificates) from where > one can deduce that Eliza was Walker, & Sarah was either Tompkins or > Grubb. The marriage certificates would give fathers names. Available for > £7 each from http://www.gro.gov.uk/gro/content/certificates/ > > Paul > > Gill Jones wrote: > >> Please can anyone help? >> I'm looking for anyone with the surname Lathwell who was living in Slapton, Bucks in 1861 and 1871. I think any which are living there at the time will be part of a single extended family. I'm trying to link them all up. I've got some of them in 1851 and some in 1881 but haven't succeeded in connecting them up yet. >> Thanks >> Gill >> _____________________________________________ >> >> Have you considered adding "postems" to "your" events on www.freebmd.org.uk , giving your contact details? Other researchers will then be able to make contact. Click on the info button to add your postem. >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to ENG-BUCKINGHAMSHIRE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >> >> >> >> > > _____________________________________________ > > Have you considered adding "postems" to "your" events on www.freebmd.org.uk , giving your contact details? Other researchers will then be able to make contact. Click on the info button to add your postem. > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to ENG-BUCKINGHAMSHIRE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > >

I am extremely grateful to everyone who responded to my request. That solves another mystery for me. Thanks a lot Gill

The Bucks FHS sell a transcription of the Slapton PRs on CD - http://bucksfhs.org.uk/shop/index.php?page=shop.product_details&flypage=shop.flypage&product_id=342&category_id=6&manufacturer_id=0&option=com_virtuemart&Itemid=2 BTW - William LATHWELL buried Slapton 2 Dec 1857 aged 67 William LATHALL christened Slapton 3 Dec 1820 son of William (labourer) & Hannah 16 Oct 1848 James LATHELL of full age, bachelor, Labourer of Slapton, son of William Lathell, Labourer married Sarah GRUBB, full age, spinster of Slapton, daughter of George Grubb, Labourer Witnesses: Eliza Grubb , John Grubb Banns. Everyone signed X, i.e. illiterate Paul Gill Jones wrote: > Please can anyone help? > I'm looking for anyone with the surname Lathwell who was living in Slapton, Bucks in 1861 and 1871. I think any which are living there at the time will be part of a single extended family. I'm trying to link them all up. I've got some of them in 1851 and some in 1881 but haven't succeeded in connecting them up yet. > Thanks > Gill > _____________________________________________ > > Have you considered adding "postems" to "your" events on www.freebmd.org.uk , giving your contact details? Other researchers will then be able to make contact. Click on the info button to add your postem. > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to ENG-BUCKINGHAMSHIRE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > >

There were 12 LATHWELLs in Slapton in 1861 - James LATHWELL 38 Shepherd Agricultural Labourer Sarah wife 37 b Ledburn Ann dau 9 Scholar Jane Selina dau 7 do John son 3 do Joseph son 1 do Sarah recorded as born Mentmore in 1851 census. James 18 in 1841, Slapton, Ag Lab, born in county. Appears to be lodging with Paul SEABROOK. 1871 - at Carpenters Arms, Slapton - James 48 Straw Dealer Sarah 48 etc. William LATHWELL 37 Agricultural Labourer Eliza wife 31 b Little Gaddesden HRT James son 13 Agricultural Labourer Edward son 8 do Mary Ann dau 5 Louisa dau 3 William & Eliza recorded as LATHELL in 1851, she recorded as born Dagnell, BKM, with James 2 & dau Caroline, 2 months. 1871 - William 50, Eliza 43, & 3 more children - Briant son 9 Caroline dau 6 Elizabeth dau 4 All born in Slapton except the wives. No LATHWELLs anywhere else in the county who were born in Slapton. In 1851, there was a family of LATHWELLs in Slapton from Bedfordshire - William age 56 b Egginton, Sophia age 65 b Houghton. All their children b Slapton. Her age could be wrong, as some of the children are too young - e.g. 9. Or maybe she was a second wife, & the children were his not hers. Ah - 1841 census, Slapton William LATHWELL 40 Ag Lab N(ot born in county) Sophira 33 N John 30 Brickmaker Y William 18 Ag Lab & Hannah 8 Y Elizabeth 3 Y Plenty on FreeBMD, (useful for references for certificates) from where one can deduce that Eliza was Walker, & Sarah was either Tompkins or Grubb. The marriage certificates would give fathers names. Available for £7 each from http://www.gro.gov.uk/gro/content/certificates/ Paul Gill Jones wrote: > Please can anyone help? > I'm looking for anyone with the surname Lathwell who was living in Slapton, Bucks in 1861 and 1871. I think any which are living there at the time will be part of a single extended family. I'm trying to link them all up. I've got some of them in 1851 and some in 1881 but haven't succeeded in connecting them up yet. > Thanks > Gill > _____________________________________________ > > Have you considered adding "postems" to "your" events on www.freebmd.org.uk , giving your contact details? Other researchers will then be able to make contact. Click on the info button to add your postem. > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to ENG-BUCKINGHAMSHIRE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > >

Hello Gill. The Lathwells at Slapton in 1861 were :- William 37 aglab b.Slapton : his wife Eliza 31 b,St.Gadsden,Herts: James 13, Edward 8, Mary Ann 5 and Louisa 3 - all b.Slapton. In 1871 :- James 48 straw dealer b.Slapton: his wife Sarah 48 b.Lednurn,Bucks; Ann 19, James 17, John 13 and Joseph aged 11 - all b.Slapton. Regards, Joe inal Message ----- From: "Gill Jones" <g.jones@connectfree.co.uk> To: "Buckinghamshire list" <ENG-BUCKINGHAMSHIRE-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Monday, October 15, 2007 2:01 PM Subject: [ENG-Buck] 1861/1871 lookup > Please can anyone help? > I'm looking for anyone with the surname Lathwell who was living in > Slapton, Bucks in 1861 and 1871. I think any which are living there at the > time will be part of a single extended family. I'm trying to link them all > up. I've got some of them in 1851 and some in 1881 but haven't succeeded > in connecting them up yet. > Thanks > Gill > _____________________________________________ > > Have you considered adding "postems" to "your" events on > www.freebmd.org.uk , giving your contact details? Other researchers will > then be able to make contact. Click on the info button to add your postem. > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > ENG-BUCKINGHAMSHIRE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' > without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > -- > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG Free Edition. > Version: 7.5.488 / Virus Database: 269.14.12/1073 - Release Date: > 16/10/2007 08:22 > >

Please can anyone help? I'm looking for anyone with the surname Lathwell who was living in Slapton, Bucks in 1861 and 1871. I think any which are living there at the time will be part of a single extended family. I'm trying to link them all up. I've got some of them in 1851 and some in 1881 but haven't succeeded in connecting them up yet. Thanks Gill

Thank you very much to Dallas who has sent me this information and to Chris who has help with location information.

Hi Karen, The William GALE living in Stoke Poges in 1841 is married to an Eliza(beth) in all censuses up to 1881. I have copied all the census transcriptions for both Williams for 1841 and 1851 and the Stoke Poges one up to 1881. Will send census images off list. Cheers Dallas 1841 England Census about William Gale Name: William Gale Age: 30 Estimated birth year: abt 1811 Gender: Male Where born: Buckinghamshire, England Civil parish: Stoke Poges Hundred: Stoke County/Island: Buckinghamshire Registration district: Eton Sub-registration district: Burnham Neighbors: View others on page Household Members: Name Age Caroline Gale 1 Elizabeth Gale 30 Maria Gale 4 Mary Gale 9 William Gale 30 William Gale 6 1851 England Census about William Gale Name: William Gale Age: 42 Estimated birth year: abt 1809 Relation: Head Spouse's name: Eliza Gender: Male Where born: Eton, Buckinghamshire, England Civil parish: Stoke Poges County/Island: Buckinghamshire Registration district: Eton Sub-registration district: Iver ED, institution, or vessel: 2a Neighbors: View others on page Household schedule number: 158 Household Members: Name Age Ann Gale 7 Caroline Gale 11 Eliza Gale 42 Eliza Gale 6 Emma Gale 1 John Gale 3 William Gale 42 William Gale 16 1861 England Census about Wm Gale Name: Wm Gale Age: 52 Estimated birth year: abt 1809 Relation: Head Spouse's name: Eliza Gender: Male Where born: Eton, Buckinghamshire, England Civil parish: Stoke Poges County/Island: Buckinghamshire Registration district: Eton Sub-registration district: Burnham ED, institution, or vessel: 10 Neighbors: View others on page Household schedule number: 99 Household Members: Name Age John Bird 49 Eliza Gale 50 Emma Gale 11 George Gale 2 John Gale 14 Wm Gale 52 1871 England Census about William Gale Sur Name: William Gale Sur Age: 63 Estimated birth year: abt 1808 Relation: Head Spouse's name: Elizabeth Gender: Male Where born: Etton, Buckinghamshire, England Civil parish: Stoke Poges County/Island: Buckinghamshire Registration district: Eton Sub-registration district: Burnham ED, institution, or vessel: 10 Neighbors: View others on page Household schedule number: 15 Household Members: Name Age Elizabeth Gale 62 George Gale 12 William Gale 63 1881 England Census about William Gale Name: William Gale Age: 70 Estimated birth year: abt 1811 Relation: Head Spouse's name: Eliza Gender: Male Where born: Eton, Buckinghamshire, England Civil parish: Stoke Poges County/Island: Buckinghamshire Country: England Street address: Stoke Common Condition as to marriage: Married Occupation: General Labourer Registration district: Eton Sub-registration district: Burnham ED, institution, or vessel: 10 Neighbors: View others on page Household Members: Name Age Eliza Gale 70 William Gale 70 1841 England Census about William Gale Name: William Gale Age: 33 Estimated birth year: abt 1808 Gender: Male Civil parish: Upton Cum Chalvey Hundred: Stoke County/Island: Buckinghamshire Registration district: Eton Sub-registration district: Eton Neighbors: View others on page Household Members: Name Age Nk 40 Steven Burich 21 John Cockerell 2 Mary Cockerell 40 Elizabeth Gale 30 Emily Gale 7 Hellen Gale 2 William Gale 33 William Gale 1 Mo Mary Hammond 20 John Hill 19 Fanny Maunde 21 George Maunde 17 Susan Smith 15 1851 England Census about William Gale Name: William Gale Age: 43 Estimated birth year: abt 1808 Relation: Head Spouse's name: Mary Ann Gender: Male Where born: Sydenham, Kent, England Civil parish: Upton Cum Chalvey County/Island: Buckinghamshire Registration district: Eton Sub-registration district: Iver ED, institution, or vessel: 5b Neighbors: View others on page Household schedule number: 90 Household Members: Name Age Mary Chalkright 12 Elizabeth Gale 6 Ellen Gale 11 Emily Gale 9 Mo Emma Gale 5 James Gale 2 Mary Ann Gale 33 William Gale 43 William Gale 9 -----Original Message----- From: Hodges [mailto:hodge007@bigpond.net.au] Sent: Thursday, 4 October 2007 5:50 PM To: ENG-BUCKINGHAMSHIRE@rootsweb.com Subject: [ENG-Buck] GALE Census look up help please I am researching William GALE and have found a problem with his occupation. I have a 1841 census image of William GALE born 1811 Ag Lab married to Elizabeth living at Stoke Poges. This man's family is listed in the IGI's and includes his daughter's . Mary. It looks like William's wife Elizabeth died in 1842 and he remarried Mary Ann whom he would be with in 1851. William GALE was a coachmaker when his daughter Mary married in 1848 at Stoke Poges. Her abode was Stoke. Mary and her husband live in Slough at Upton Cum Chalvey after their marriage. Recently I viewed some directories and discovered 1839 William GALE publican at Rein Deer Inn. 1844 the name is listed 3 times, one as a publican at Rein Deer inn, one a Coachmaker and one a blacksmith all at Slough. Now I am unsure if this man had several businesses or if another William Gale was living in the same location. I did a check of the 1841 census index and found another William Gale 1808 Buckingham. Would SKS please help me with details of this man's and the 1851 details of William and Maryann ? Thank you Karen _____________________________________________ Have you considered adding "postems" to "your" events on www.freebmd.org.uk , giving your contact details? Other researchers will then be able to make contact. Click on the info button to add your postem. ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to ENG-BUCKINGHAMSHIRE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

I am researching William GALE and have found a problem with his occupation. I have a 1841 census image of William GALE born 1811 Ag Lab married to Elizabeth living at Stoke Poges. This man's family is listed in the IGI's and includes his daughter's . Mary. It looks like William's wife Elizabeth died in 1842 and he remarried Mary Ann whom he would be with in 1851. William GALE was a coachmaker when his daughter Mary married in 1848 at Stoke Poges. Her abode was Stoke. Mary and her husband live in Slough at Upton Cum Chalvey after their marriage. Recently I viewed some directories and discovered 1839 William GALE publican at Rein Deer Inn. 1844 the name is listed 3 times, one as a publican at Rein Deer inn, one a Coachmaker and one a blacksmith all at Slough. Now I am unsure if this man had several businesses or if another William Gale was living in the same location. I did a check of the 1841 census index and found another William Gale 1808 Buckingham. Would SKS please help me with details of this man's and the 1851 details of William and Maryann ? Thank you Karen

To unsubscribe from the list, including the list digest, please send an email to ENG-BUCKINGHAMSHIRE-request@rootsweb.com with the word "unsubscribe" in the subject and the body of the email with no additional text. Karen ----- Original Message ----- From: <Nancat3@aol.com> To: <eng-buckinghamshire@rootsweb.com> Sent: Tuesday, September 25, 2007 6:33 PM Subject: [ENG-Buck] unsubscribe please help >I have been trying to unsubscribe without any luck, can SKS please give me > the write e-mail address to do so, in case I am using the wrong one. > Many thanks > Nan > > > > > _____________________________________________ > > Have you considered adding "postems" to "your" events on > www.freebmd.org.uk , giving your contact details? Other researchers will > then be able to make contact. Click on the info button to add your postem. > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > ENG-BUCKINGHAMSHIRE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' > without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

I have a book called "A Dictionary of old Trades, Titles and Occupations" by Colin Waters. Within is listed a Silk Thrower and it states "Natural silk process worker who thickens silk by twisting one or more threads (see also throwster). Also a silk yarn winder. Under Throwster it states "Silk thread winder who thickens thread by twisting it. The word comes from the Anglo-Saxon thrawan meaning to twist or turn." Best regards. Jeff ----- Original Message ----- From: "Michael Brock" <mrbgen@optusnet.com.au> To: <ENG-BUCKINGHAMSHIRE-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Tuesday, September 25, 2007 8:55 AM Subject: [ENG-Buck] 1841 CENSUS - PROFESSION, TRADE OR EMPLOYMENT >I have an entry in the 1841 Census showing the persons apparent trade as >"Silkthrowster Fae" - well that is the best I can make out. > > Can anyone clarify for me please? > > Best Regards > > Michael > _____________________________________________ > > Have you considered adding "postems" to "your" events on > www.freebmd.org.uk , giving your contact details? Other researchers will > then be able to make contact. Click on the info button to add your postem. > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > ENG-BUCKINGHAMSHIRE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' > without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

I have an entry in the 1841 Census showing the persons apparent trade as "Silkthrowster Fae" - well that is the best I can make out. Can anyone clarify for me please? Best Regards Michael

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I have been trying to unsubscribe without any luck, can SKS please give me the write e-mail address to do so, in case I am using the wrong one. Many thanks Nan