In the 1901 census Ebeneezer is shown as a printer's linotype operator In those days the metal letters were produced in small slugs in a linotype machime - which was something like a mad scientists's typewriter with hot lead bubbling away in the bottom. This was opposed to older monotype where individual letters were assembled to form words. The slugs were assembled on a metla "stick" and then taken by an apprentice to the compositor on the "stone" (bench) who would assemble them into columns etc by adding spaces and other type. You really wanted to know that ddn't you! regards Martin ----- Original Message ----- From: "Brad Rogers" <brad@fineby.me.uk> To: <eng-buckinghamshire@rootsweb.com> Sent: Tuesday, January 01, 2008 7:22 PM Subject: [!! SPAM] Re: [ENG-Buck] New to List job description and christian name > On Tue, 01 Jan 2008 18:43:54 +0000 > Paul Ellis <paulellis110@tiscali.co.uk> wrote: > > Hello Paul, > >> At the moment I am finding it difficult to read the first name of the >> son aged 17 on the 1861 along with his job. His name looks like >> Laeshaus but the job has got me beat. > > He's Zaccheus Lacey, a Draper's Assistant. You can confirm the > name by cross-referencing against FreeBMD; Jun 1843, Wycombe v6 p412. > The letters in assistant that look a bit life a p with a riser and a > descender are, in fact, a long s followed by a modern s. An educated > guess tells me he works in his father's Draper's shop. > >> Also on the 1901 census Ebenezer Moses LACEY is living above a >> grocers shop in Wycombe but I haven't had much luck deciphering his > > That one's got me beat, TBH. I would hazard a guess at the last word > being Operator, and I can see Lino as part of the previous word. > Something in the printing trade, maybe. All pretty vague, I know. > That enumerator's handwriting was appalling, though. > > -- > Regards _ > / ) "The blindingly obvious is > / _)rad never immediately apparent" > > Bet you thought you had it all worked out > Problem - Sex Pistols > _____________________________________________ > > Have you considered adding "postems" to "your" events on > www.freebmd.org.uk , giving your contact details? Other researchers will > then be able to make contact. Click on the info button to add your postem. > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > ENG-BUCKINGHAMSHIRE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' > without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Hi Listers, a big thank you to all on the list who have helped me sort out my LACEY ancestors and the undecipherable handwriting of the enumerator for that area. Thanks again. Regards Paul in Bulwell Nottingham

Sorry just noticed..... Zaccheus is not a son but a servant. Sandra ----- Original Message ----- From: "Paul Ellis" <paulellis110@tiscali.co.uk> To: <ENG-BUCKINGHAMSHIRE@rootsweb.com> Sent: Tuesday, January 01, 2008 6:43 PM Subject: [ENG-Buck] New to List job description and christian name > Hi Listers, > I am new to this list and have joined to find out what I > can about the LACEY family of Princes Risboro'. The family are living at > 35 Back Lane on the 1881 Census, but the first instance I have is 24 > High Street on the 1861. > At the moment I am finding it difficult to read the first name of the > son aged 17 on the 1861 along with his job. His name looks like Laeshaus > but the job has got me beat. > Also on the 1901 census Ebenezer Moses LACEY is living above a grocers > shop in Wycombe but I haven't had much luck deciphering his job either. > Any information about the above would be greatly appreciated. > > Regards Paul in Bulwell Nottingham > > _____________________________________________ > > Have you considered adding "postems" to "your" events on > www.freebmd.org.uk , giving your contact details? Other researchers will > then be able to make contact. Click on the info button to add your postem. > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > ENG-BUCKINGHAMSHIRE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' > without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > -- > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG Free Edition. > Version: 7.5.516 / Virus Database: 269.17.13/1206 - Release Date: > 01/01/2008 12:09 > >

First the items you cant read: Benjamin is a Draper & Grocer Leis, age 7 is a scholar Zaccheus is a Drapers Assistant Elizabeth is a housekeeper. Secondly - and most important. 24 is NOT the house number and so is not an address. This schedule number is the number of the form that the householder completed and is only used to locate a particular entry on the census. Hope this helps Sandra ----- Original Message ----- From: "Paul Ellis" <paulellis110@tiscali.co.uk> To: <ENG-BUCKINGHAMSHIRE@rootsweb.com> Sent: Tuesday, January 01, 2008 6:43 PM Subject: [ENG-Buck] New to List job description and christian name > Hi Listers, > I am new to this list and have joined to find out what I > can about the LACEY family of Princes Risboro'. The family are living at > 35 Back Lane on the 1881 Census, but the first instance I have is 24 > High Street on the 1861. > At the moment I am finding it difficult to read the first name of the > son aged 17 on the 1861 along with his job. His name looks like Laeshaus > but the job has got me beat. > Also on the 1901 census Ebenezer Moses LACEY is living above a grocers > shop in Wycombe but I haven't had much luck deciphering his job either. > Any information about the above would be greatly appreciated. > > Regards Paul in Bulwell Nottingham > > _____________________________________________ > > Have you considered adding "postems" to "your" events on > www.freebmd.org.uk , giving your contact details? Other researchers will > then be able to make contact. Click on the info button to add your postem. > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > ENG-BUCKINGHAMSHIRE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' > without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > -- > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG Free Edition. > Version: 7.5.516 / Virus Database: 269.17.13/1206 - Release Date: > 01/01/2008 12:09 > >

On Tue, 01 Jan 2008 18:43:54 +0000 Paul Ellis <paulellis110@tiscali.co.uk> wrote: Hello Paul, > At the moment I am finding it difficult to read the first name of the > son aged 17 on the 1861 along with his job. His name looks like > Laeshaus but the job has got me beat. He's Zaccheus Lacey, a Draper's Assistant. You can confirm the name by cross-referencing against FreeBMD; Jun 1843, Wycombe v6 p412. The letters in assistant that look a bit life a p with a riser and a descender are, in fact, a long s followed by a modern s. An educated guess tells me he works in his father's Draper's shop. > Also on the 1901 census Ebenezer Moses LACEY is living above a > grocers shop in Wycombe but I haven't had much luck deciphering his That one's got me beat, TBH. I would hazard a guess at the last word being Operator, and I can see Lino as part of the previous word. Something in the printing trade, maybe. All pretty vague, I know. That enumerator's handwriting was appalling, though. -- Regards _ / ) "The blindingly obvious is / _)rad never immediately apparent" Bet you thought you had it all worked out Problem - Sex Pistols

Hi Listers, I am new to this list and have joined to find out what I can about the LACEY family of Princes Risboro'. The family are living at 35 Back Lane on the 1881 Census, but the first instance I have is 24 High Street on the 1861. At the moment I am finding it difficult to read the first name of the son aged 17 on the 1861 along with his job. His name looks like Laeshaus but the job has got me beat. Also on the 1901 census Ebenezer Moses LACEY is living above a grocers shop in Wycombe but I haven't had much luck deciphering his job either. Any information about the above would be greatly appreciated. Regards Paul in Bulwell Nottingham

Hi Yvonne I actually do have Sarah's marriage and baptism date. I didnt think I had it as I used the years 1720+ to search for it among my records when in fact it was 1713/4. If you let me have your email address I will send you a group sheet for the family as an attachment. I dont have any more information about the Smith family. Just that my 4 great GF married first a Mary Smith and then a Judith Smith. Hope you had a good Christmas. Kind regards Sandra ----- Original Message ----- From: "Withington Family" <lwithing@bigpond.net.au> To: <eng-buckinghamshire@rootsweb.com> Sent: Thursday, December 27, 2007 5:20 AM Subject: Re: [ENG-Buck] FOSKETT /FOSKITT > Thanks Sandra, > Yes please, I would like a baptisem for Sarah if you have it. On > February > 1723/24 - ( although it could be 1713/14 -) she married Abraham ELY/ > EELEY > brother to my ancestor John.. > > Among your SMITH info would you have any thing about the family of Mary > Ann > baptised at Great Haesly 1800 - Parents Thomas & Lydia nee HARRISON > married > 1795 at Great Hasely? > Thomas' Parents William & Sarah nee BELCHER married 1760 at Great Hasely. > Sarah married William EELY/ EELEY at Preston Bissett 27 September 1827 & > were my great greaat grandparents. > > With good wishes for Christmas & happy hunting for 2008, > Yvonne > > _____________________________________________ > > Have you considered adding "postems" to "your" events on > www.freebmd.org.uk , giving your contact details? Other researchers will > then be able to make contact. Click on the info button to add your postem. > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > ENG-BUCKINGHAMSHIRE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' > without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > -- > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG Free Edition. > Version: 7.5.516 / Virus Database: 269.17.9/1197 - Release Date: > 25/12/2007 20:04 > >

Thanks Sandra, Yes please, I would like a baptisem for Sarah if you have it. On February 1723/24 - ( although it could be 1713/14 -) she married Abraham ELY/ EELEY brother to my ancestor John.. Among your SMITH info would you have any thing about the family of Mary Ann baptised at Great Haesly 1800 - Parents Thomas & Lydia nee HARRISON married 1795 at Great Hasely? Thomas' Parents William & Sarah nee BELCHER married 1760 at Great Hasely. Sarah married William EELY/ EELEY at Preston Bissett 27 September 1827 & were my great greaat grandparents. With good wishes for Christmas & happy hunting for 2008, Yvonne

(originally sent on Christmas day, but it disappeared into the void. Rootsweb servers weren't running. Apologies if it appears & you get this twice) Merry Christmas one and all! Full of roast duck (very tasty), pudding, etc., & with little to do, my mind turned to genealogy, & I thought - "What new questions do I have that someone out there might be able to answer quite easily?". The first one that sprang to mind was this - Does anyone have access to Brill PRs for the late 17th & 18th centuries? I recently, via wills & the Dorton PRs, firmly identified my ancestor Henry EELES (died 1749 Brill) as the youngest son of Robert EELES (will 1712, probably born Dorton 1635). But I don't have any PR records for the christening of Henry or any of his siblings, or Roberts marriage (wife Mary when he made his will). I know Robert had the following children alive in 1671, when his father John died (first naming them in his will) in Dorton - John (eldest son) Robert Joseph Benjamin Sarah And named the following in his will in 1712 - Wife Mary John (eldest son) Joseph (second son) Benjamin (third son) Henry (my ancestor, youngest son) & his wife Mary Daughters - Elizabeth & her husband William WHITTON of Rollright Mary Anne Any information on births or deaths gratefully received. Paul

Hi Paul ? rootsweb servers have been down for a couple of days and you only have one post showing in the Dec archives for this list (which is the best place to check first) There is still time for it to appear but you may have to repost it Best wishes Nivard Ovington, in Cornwall (UK) > Because my last mail was sent two days ago & hasn't appeared yet . . .

Because my last mail was sent two days ago & hasn't appeared yet . . .

Merry Christmas one and all! Full of roast duck (very tasty), pudding, etc., & with little to do, my mind turned to genealogy, & I thought - "What new questions do I have that someone out there might be able to answer quite easily?". The first one that sprang to mind was this - Does anyone have access to Brill PRs for the late 17th & 18th centuries? I recently, via wills & the Dorton PRs, firmly identified my ancestor Henry EELES (died 1749 Brill) as the youngest son of Robert EELES (will 1712, probably born Dorton 1635). But I don't have any PR records for the christening of Henry or any of his siblings, or Roberts marriage (wife Mary when he made his will). I know Robert had the following children alive in 1671, when his father John died (first naming them in his will) in Dorton - John (eldest son) Robert Joseph Benjamin Sarah And named the following in his will in 1712 - Wife Mary John (eldest son) Joseph (second son) Benjamin (third son) Henry (my ancestor, youngest son) & his wife Mary Daughters - Elizabeth & her husband William WHITTON of Rollright Mary Anne Any information on births or deaths gratefully received. Paul

Hi Sandra, Not an answer to your queery, but do you have any info about FOSKETT pre 1700.I have a Sarah who married in 1723 at Buckingham, Yvonne

Hello Yvonne, Yes I have a lot of information pre 1700. Are you looking for Sarah's baptism? I don't have this marriage of 1723. Could you send me details please. Kind regards and compliments of the season Sandra ----- Original Message ----- From: "Withington Family" <lwithing@bigpond.net.au> To: <eng-buckinghamshire@rootsweb.com> Sent: Sunday, December 23, 2007 1:37 AM Subject: Re: [ENG-Buck] FOSKETT /FOSKITT > Hi Sandra, > Not an answer to your queery, but do you have any info about FOSKETT pre > 1700.I have a Sarah who married in 1723 at Buckingham, > Yvonne > > _____________________________________________ > > Have you considered adding "postems" to "your" events on > www.freebmd.org.uk , giving your contact details? Other researchers will > then be able to make contact. Click on the info button to add your postem. > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > ENG-BUCKINGHAMSHIRE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' > without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > -- > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG Free Edition. > Version: 7.5.516 / Virus Database: 269.17.6/1193 - Release Date: > 22/12/2007 14:02 > >

Hi List, Almost an impossible quest, but thought I might ask the question on the remote offchance that someone has these two ladies in their family tree.... George FOSKETT of Grandborough married Mary SMITH in Swanbourne in 1802. They raised a large family in Grandborough and Mary died there in 1827, her age indicating she was born circa 1775. Later that year (1827) George married again to Judith SMITH in Winslow. She survived until 1853 and states on the 1851 census, born Grandborough in approximately 1779. There is no Judith Smith baptised in Grandborough, in fact there is only one Judith baptised in there according to the IGI - a Judith GEORGE baptised 1779. I am wondering whether my two ladies were related which might give me a lead on my elusive GGGG Grandmother Mary Smith Could Judith George have previously married a SMITH who was a relative of Mary's? If any of these names ring a bell, perhaps you could get in touch. Thank you Compliments of the season Sandra

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Nivard Thanks for explanation about the recorded ages in the 1841 census. Gill

Hi Gill In the 1841 census, ages above 15 should be rounded down (not up) to the nearest five, so a 29 year old would be enumerated as 25, a 41 year old as 40, etc 15 and below should be enumerated with the correct age That is presuming that the enumerator understood the instructions of course :-) >From my meanderings through many a census I have found that some ignored the instruction or simply misunderstood them and sometimes did some correctly and others with their correct age In alls cases the age is as given by the head of household who may not have known the correct age for certain Best wishes Nivard Ovington, in Cornwall (UK) > Sian > Thanks for that information. Are the ages of George and his wife correct > because in 1851 they were 45 and 51 respectively. The ages of the children > tally. I know that they did round up/down ages in 1841 but there is still > a discrepancy. > I suspected that the Davis history in the village didn't go back far. This > has confirmed it as William is recorded as not being from the county. > Thanks > Gill

Sian Thanks for that information. Are the ages of George and his wife correct because in 1851 they were 45 and 51 respectively. The ages of the children tally. I know that they did round up/down ages in 1841 but there is still a discrepancy. I suspected that the Davis history in the village didn't go back far. This has confirmed it as William is recorded as not being from the county. Thanks Gill

Hi Gill, North Crawley (no other details), 1841 George Davis, 55, Sawyer, Y Ester Davis, 40, Y John Davis, 15, Y Catherine Davis, 13, Y Eliza Davis, Y William Davis, 4, Y Silvester Davis, 1, Y William Davis, 60, N (looks like he was either in the same house or nect door). Hope this helps Sian> From: g.jones@connectfree.co.uk> To: ENG-BUCKINGHAMSHIRE-L@rootsweb.com> Date: Wed, 19 Dec 2007 14:06:07 +0000> Subject: [ENG-Buck] 1841 look up - Davis - North Crawley> > I would be grateful if someone could check the 1841 census for North Crawley for:-> > William Davis born about 1775. widower- birthplace not known> > George (b. abt 1805) and Esther Davis (b.abt. 1799) - both born in North Crawley> > ... and any children still living with them. > > I have found this couple in the 1851 census ... William had died by then.> > Thanks> Gill> > _____________________________________________> > Have you considered adding "postems" to "your" events on www.freebmd.org.uk , giving your contact details? Other researchers will then be able to make contact. Click on the info button to add your postem.> -------------------------------> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to ENG-BUCKINGHAMSHIRE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message _________________________________________________________________ Telly addicts unite! http://www.searchgamesbox.com/tvtown.shtml