Thanks so much Alex, I really appreciate your reply, as I don't have access to that particular census at all. I should have mentioned Catharine's age before - about 54; so even with the rounding in 1841, Worley is unlikely to be her (but worth mentioning!). Thanks again Julie -----Original Message----- From: Alexandra Coles [mailto:[email protected]] Sent: Saturday, 8 January 2005 4:55 PM To: [email protected] Subject: RE: [ENG-BUCK] 1841 Census - Great Linford Hi Julie - the only Hawleys I can find in Great Linford were the two households already listed. There was a Catherine Worley living next door to the second set of Hawley's - very close phonetically so I thought I'd mention it on the offchance - she is 40 and born in the county, and although she had no occupation listed she would appear to be a servant on the farm of Eli Elkins. Regards Alex --- Julie Fitzgerald <[email protected]> wrote: > Hi Alex > > Could I prevail upon you to check if there is a > James Hawley and/or > Catherine Hawley also on the 1841 census? I don't > know yet anything more > about James except his wife's name (Caporn) and that > he was "of Gt Linford" > but maybe he'll be related to the people you've > given Mark below. > > Thanks heaps > > Julie > Melbourne > > -----Original Message----- > From: Alexandra Coles [mailto:[email protected]] > Sent: Saturday, 8 January 2005 3:54 PM > To: [email protected] > Subject: Re: [ENG-BUCK] 1841 Census - Great Linford > > Hi Mark > > Bingo! In Great Linford (no detailed address given): > > Thomas HAWLEY 40 butcher Yes (ie born in the county) > Hannah HAWLEY 40 Yes > Fridick(?) HAWLEY 14 Yes > Leah HAWLEY 12 Yes > Thomas HAWLEY 10 Yes > Alfred HAWLEY 8 Yes > Sarah HAWLEY 6 Yes > Emma HAWLEY 3 Yes > (HO107/57/12 folio 10 page 15) > > also in Great Linford: > > James HAWLEY 80 farmer No > Eliz HAWLEY 80 Yes > John HAWLEY 50 baker Yes > Charles HAWLEY 45 Yes > (HO107/57/12 folio 4 page 2) Find local movie times and trailers on Yahoo! Movies. http://au.movies.yahoo.com ============================== New! Family Tree Maker 2005. Build your tree and search for your ancestors at the same time. Share your tree with family and friends. Learn more: http://landing.ancestry.com/familytreemaker/2005/tour.aspx?sourceid=14599&ta rgetid=5429

Hi Alex Could I prevail upon you to check if there is a James Hawley and/or Catherine Hawley also on the 1841 census? I don't know yet anything more about James except his wife's name (Caporn) and that he was "of Gt Linford" but maybe he'll be related to the people you've given Mark below. Thanks heaps Julie Melbourne -----Original Message----- From: Alexandra Coles [mailto:[email protected]] Sent: Saturday, 8 January 2005 3:54 PM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [ENG-BUCK] 1841 Census - Great Linford Hi Mark Bingo! In Great Linford (no detailed address given): Thomas HAWLEY 40 butcher Yes (ie born in the county) Hannah HAWLEY 40 Yes Fridick(?) HAWLEY 14 Yes Leah HAWLEY 12 Yes Thomas HAWLEY 10 Yes Alfred HAWLEY 8 Yes Sarah HAWLEY 6 Yes Emma HAWLEY 3 Yes (HO107/57/12 folio 10 page 15) also in Great Linford: James HAWLEY 80 farmer No Eliz HAWLEY 80 Yes John HAWLEY 50 baker Yes Charles HAWLEY 45 Yes (HO107/57/12 folio 4 page 2) Regards Alex in Auckland NZ --- [email protected] wrote: > > Hello Everyone, > > Further to my email yesterday (see below), I > received a mail informing that > Alfred's parents were possibly Thomas & Hannah > Hawley of Great Linford. I > would be very grateful if SKS could look for Thomas > and Hannah in the 1841 > census to confirm if Alfred - aged 8 is with them?. > > > Mark Ashwell > Find local movie times and trailers on Yahoo! Movies. http://au.movies.yahoo.com ============================== Census images 1901, 1891, 1881 and 1871, plus so much more. Ancestry.com's United Kingdom & Ireland Collection. Learn more: http://www.ancestry.com/s13968/rd.ashx

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Hi Julie and Mark, Here is the James Hawley in the 1841 Stoke Goldington and probably his father as well. I'm sorry I don't have any reference numbers for you. 1841 Census - Stoke Goldington Church End HAWLEY, John age 76, no occupation, born in county 1841 Census - Stoke Goldington Church End HAWLEY, James age 48, Ag Lab, born in county HAWLEY, Ann age 19, Lacemaker, born in county I didn't see any other HAWLEYS in Stoke Goldington so hope this helps one of you just a little, Margaret Ontario, Canada ----- Original Message ----- From: <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Saturday, January 08, 2005 5:12 AM Subject: Re: [ENG-BUCK] 1841 Census - Great Linford > If it's any help to Julie, I've also found the name spelt as Haule, and > Hauley. > > There is a James Hawley, son of John & Susanna, who was Baptisted on 9th > December 1792 at Stoke Goldington which is about 5 miles from Great Linford. > > -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.300 / Virus Database: 265.6.9 - Release Date: 06/01/2005

Alex, Many thanks for your reply. It's exactly what I was hoping for. If it's any help to Julie, I've also found the name spelt as Haule, and Hauley. There is a James Hawley, son of John & Susanna, who was Baptisted on 9th December 1792 at Stoke Goldington which is about 5 miles from Great Linford. Best regards, Mark Ashwell Leicester

Hi Everyone, I'm hoping that someone would be able to do a lookup for me from the 1841 census. I'm particularly interested in Edmund Turner and his wife Ann (nee Goddard), children Edmund Goddard, George Ernest, John Edward. They also had another 2 children after, Esther Eliza and Ezra Emmanuel. They left England aboard the ship Emperor in 1848. Regards Jo Australia

The 1841 census is not indexed, so looking for those people without a very good indication of where they might be found is not practical. There were 155983 people in Buckinghamshire according to the 1841 census. Do you know where they lived? Paul Jo-anne McIlwain wrote: >Hi Everyone, >I'm hoping that someone would be able to do a lookup for me from the 1841 >census. I'm particularly interested in Edmund Turner and his wife Ann (nee >Goddard), children Edmund Goddard, George Ernest, John Edward. They also >had another 2 children after, Esther Eliza and Ezra Emmanuel. They left >England aboard the ship Emperor in 1848. > >Regards >Jo >Australia > > >============================== >Search the US Census Collection. Over 140 million records added in the >last 12 months. Largest online collection in the world. Learn more: http://www.ancestry.com/s13965/rd.ashx > > > >

Hello Everyone, Further to my email yesterday (see below), I received a mail informing that Alfred's parents were possibly Thomas & Hannah Hawley of Great Linford. I would be very grateful if SKS could look for Thomas and Hannah in the 1841 census to confirm if Alfred - aged 8 is with them?. and..I would like to know anyone shares an interest in the Hawleys. Alfred's son, Alfred Ernest Hawley was the founder of the nationally famous company of Sketchley (the dry cleaners) and was a great benefactor to Leicester, and Hinckley, Leicestershire - where he was responsible for doubling the size of the town. Regards and best wishes, Mark Ashwell >Hello All, > >I am researching the family of Alfred Hawley, who is listed in the 1851 census as aged 18, >a Grocers' Apprentice for Mr Thomas Bent of the High St, Stoney Stratford. > >His birthplace is given as Great Linford. > >I am hoping SKS has access to the 1841 census, or the Great Linford PR's, and can tell >who Alfred's parents were. > >Best regards, > >Mark Ashwell >Leicester

Is there a register of the people that are buried in a cemetery? Are the parish records the only source for this? My ggg-grandfather George CROSS and his father George both lived and died in Winslow (1844 and 1863 respectively)so I'm pretty sure they are buried there. The Bucks FHS doesn't have Parish Records for Winslow for those years. Can anyone suggest something else? Thanks, Edgar Cross ===== Edgar H Cross View My Genealogy Research and Guide at http://www.ehcross.com __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Mail - 250MB free storage. Do more. Manage less. http://info.mail.yahoo.com/mail_250

Peter Many thanks for your reply. Obviously I can't at this time link these with Sarah but I will keep looking and if they are related I will let you know. Bob -----Original Message----- From: Peter Nelms [mailto:[email protected]] Sent: 07 January 2005 00:50 To: [email protected] Subject: RE: [ENG-BUCK] Sarah WHITE family Bob, I have connections to the WHITE family of Shabbington as follows: John NELMS was baptised on 17 Jun 1810 and married Mary FULLER at Shabbington on 14 Oct 1835 (witnesses William White and William Henley, by P. Long, Vicar) after Banns on 20 and 27 Sep and 4 Oct 1835. Their children were Mary Anne (25 Dec 1835), Richard (26 Nov 1837) and Caroline (19 Apr 1840). James NELMS was baptised on 10 Feb 1811 and married Hannah WHITE at Shabbington on 15 Oct 1832 (witnesses John White and Eliza Nelms, by P. Long, Vicar) after Banns on 22 and 29 Jul and 5 Aug 1832. They had a daughter Charlotte (10 Mar 1833). Peter J. Nelms Canberra, Australia [email protected] OFHS Member # 4540 Researching NELMS / NELMES of Oxon (Great Haseley, Great Milton), Bucks (Ickford, Shabbington) & Australia (Brisbane, Queensland). Other surnames: RADBONE, LOVEGROVE, DINGLE, NORTH, HUDSON, CLAYDON, WISE, KING, BOX http://Peter_Nelms.tripod.com/Family_History.html ---------------------------------------------------------------------- >From: "Bob Bristow" <[email protected]> >Reply-To: [email protected] >To: [email protected] >Subject: [ENG-BUCK] Sarah WHITE family >Date: Thu, 6 Jan 2005 19:26:49 -0000 > >Hi all > >I am trying to find out about Sarah WHITE who was born about 1871 in >Shabbington and married an Issac HITCHMAN from Harwell Berks in 1896. > >The family grape vine suggests she was the illegitimate daughter of a Sarah >White daughter of the village blacksmith in Shabbington. > >Is anybody researching the family or who can shed any information please. > >Many thanks > >Bob Bristow > ============================== Search the US Census Collection. Over 140 million records added in the last 12 months. Largest online collection in the world. Learn more: http://www.ancestry.com/s13965/rd.ashx -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.300 / Virus Database: 265.6.8 - Release Date: 03/01/2005 -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.300 / Virus Database: 265.6.8 - Release Date: 03/01/2005

Bob, I have connections to the WHITE family of Shabbington as follows: John NELMS was baptised on 17 Jun 1810 and married Mary FULLER at Shabbington on 14 Oct 1835 (witnesses William White and William Henley, by P. Long, Vicar) after Banns on 20 and 27 Sep and 4 Oct 1835. Their children were Mary Anne (25 Dec 1835), Richard (26 Nov 1837) and Caroline (19 Apr 1840). James NELMS was baptised on 10 Feb 1811 and married Hannah WHITE at Shabbington on 15 Oct 1832 (witnesses John White and Eliza Nelms, by P. Long, Vicar) after Banns on 22 and 29 Jul and 5 Aug 1832. They had a daughter Charlotte (10 Mar 1833). Peter J. Nelms Canberra, Australia [email protected] OFHS Member # 4540 Researching NELMS / NELMES of Oxon (Great Haseley, Great Milton), Bucks (Ickford, Shabbington) & Australia (Brisbane, Queensland). Other surnames: RADBONE, LOVEGROVE, DINGLE, NORTH, HUDSON, CLAYDON, WISE, KING, BOX http://Peter_Nelms.tripod.com/Family_History.html ---------------------------------------------------------------------- >From: "Bob Bristow" <[email protected]> >Reply-To: [email protected] >To: [email protected] >Subject: [ENG-BUCK] Sarah WHITE family >Date: Thu, 6 Jan 2005 19:26:49 -0000 > >Hi all > >I am trying to find out about Sarah WHITE who was born about 1871 in >Shabbington and married an Issac HITCHMAN from Harwell Berks in 1896. > >The family grape vine suggests she was the illegitimate daughter of a Sarah >White daughter of the village blacksmith in Shabbington. > >Is anybody researching the family or who can shed any information please. > >Many thanks > >Bob Bristow >

Have you looked at the 1881 census? www.familysearch.org The only Sarah WHITE born in Shabbington in the 1891 census (assuming the wife of John WHITE doesn't count) was 21, a servant in Oxford, i.e. not far from Harwell. Could be the same as the one in 1881. If so, her mother could be Sarah. Her grandparents are shown in the 1851 census as having a daughter Sarah, born in Shabbington about 1846/7. However, her grandfather is consistently shown as an agricultural labourer in the censuses. Paul Bob Bristow wrote: >Hi all > >I am trying to find out about Sarah WHITE who was born about 1871 in >Shabbington and married an Issac HITCHMAN from Harwell Berks in 1896. > >The family grape vine suggests she was the illegitimate daughter of a Sarah >White daughter of the village blacksmith in Shabbington. > >Is anybody researching the family or who can shed any information please. > >Many thanks > >Bob Bristow > > > > >

Hi all I am trying to find out about Sarah WHITE who was born about 1871 in Shabbington and married an Issac HITCHMAN from Harwell Berks in 1896. The family grape vine suggests she was the illegitimate daughter of a Sarah White daughter of the village blacksmith in Shabbington. Is anybody researching the family or who can shed any information please. Many thanks Bob Bristow -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.300 / Virus Database: 265.6.8 - Release Date: 03/01/2005

Hello All, I am researching the family of Alfred Hawley, who is listed in the 1851 census as aged 18, a Grocers' Apprentice for Mr Thomas Bent of the High St, Stoney Stratford. His birthplace is given as Great Linford. I am hoping SKS has access to the 1841 census, or the Great Linford PR's, and can tell who Alfred's parents were. Best regards, Mark Ashwell Leicester

Hello list, Is there any group or individual in CHALFONT-ST -GILES that I may approach with a question please? Thank you, Harold My WEB address: http://www.lrfhs.org.uk/harold.html From: Blaby, Leicester, ENGLAND

Is there a register of the people that are buried in a cemetery? Are the parish records the only source for this? My ggg-grandfather George CROSS and his father George both lived and died in Winslow (1844 and 1863 respectively)so I'm pretty sure they are buried there. The Bucks FHS doesn't have Parish Records for Winslow for those years. Can anyone suggest something else? Thanks, Edgar Cross ===== Edgar H Cross View My Genealogy Research and Guide at http://www.ehcross.com __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Read only the mail you want - Yahoo! Mail SpamGuard. http://promotions.yahoo.com/new_mail

Dear all "I am searching for Graham DUFFIN thought to be or have been a Police Officer in Buckinghamshire. His parents were Sydney & Dorothy DUFFIN (nee BOURNE) I also would like to contact his brother Graham DUFFIN. I have been commissioned by Paul DUFFIN to carry out this research. My wife Sylvia is a cousin to Paul DUFFIN. I would appreciate any help" Harold Singleton, Blaby, Leicester [email protected] (posted on behalf of Harold who is having trouble posting himself) Best wishes Nivard Ovington Cornwall (UK) -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.298 / Virus Database: 265.6.7 - Release Date: 30/12/2004

Can anyone give me the web site for Carpenters Apprentices, please, my grandfather was one. Thank you , Eileen ----- Original Message ----- From: "steve" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Tuesday, December 28, 2004 9:33 AM Subject: [BDF] 1891 Census Look-up Please > Hello Listers, > Can SKS please check the 1891 Census for information about George and Thomas Farr please, the information I have comes from the 1881 census and is as follows; > > Census Place 11 Francis St., West Ham, Essex, England > > Thomas Farr Head Male 34 NK, Bedford, England Dk Labourer (NK = Old Warden actually) > > George Farr Son Male 15 NK, Essex, England > Thomas Farr Son Male 12 NK, Kent, England Scholar > > Thank you, > > Steve Farr > (Belgium) > > > ==== BEDFORD Mailing List ==== > Go to the Bedfordshire Lookup Exchange at: > http://freespace.virgin.net/m.harbach/bdf.html >

In January Clive Holden kindly checked Drayton Parslow PRs for Charles BATCHELOR, born ca. 1811, but there was no corresponding entry. I still haven't found the origins of this ancestor, who lived for a long time in Northchurch, Herts, but mostly gave his origin as Drayton Parslow in censuses. Coming back to this problem, it occurs to me that Drayton Beauchamp is closer to Herts, and wondered if someone with access to relevant PRs could check for me, in case of 19th C memory failures! Thanks, and happy New Year to all. hugh manchester

It could just mean the houses around the church. Addresses in small places were still informal back then. "High Street" was the main street, "Market Square" where the market was held. "Horn Street" may have held a pub called the Horn, "Buckingham Road" would have been the road leading towards Buckingham. Formal street names were only used in towns large enough to need them. Paul > > From: "Edgar Cross" <[email protected]> > Date: 2004/12/29 Wed PM 02:23:10 GMT > To: [email protected] > Subject: Re: [ENG-BUCK] 1841 Census Look-up - George CROSS from Winslow > > George CROSS Sr. died in 1844 so he will not appear in the 1851 census. > George CROSS Jr. was living at 154 Market Square in the 1851 census. What > is "Church yard"? is it a street? > > Thanks Paul. > > Edgar Cross > > > >From: Paul Irving <[email protected]> > >Reply-To: [email protected] > >To: [email protected] > >Subject: Re: [ENG-BUCK] 1841 Census Look-up - George CROSS from Winslow > >Date: Tue, 28 Dec 2004 22:57:56 +0000 > > > >His address? The 1851 census shows a few people living at "Church Yard". > > > >Paul > > > >Edgar Cross wrote: > > > >>My ggg-grandfather George CROSS had a drapery business in Winslow, Bucks. > >>He is listed in the 1851 census living in 154 Market Square. His father, > >>also named George CROSS is listed in the Pigot's Directory of 1844 as a > >>Maltster in Chruch yard. > >> > >>Could SKS look up these two individuals in the 1841 census? What exactly > >>does Chrurch yard mean when referring to Maltster? > >> > >>Thanks, > >> > >>Edgar Cross > >> > >> > >> > >>============================== > >>View and search Historical Newspapers. Read about your ancestors, find > >>marriage announcements and more. Learn more: > >>http://www.ancestry.com/s13969/rd.ashx > >> > >> > > > > > > > >============================== > >Search the US Census Collection. Over 140 million records added in the > >last 12 months. Largest online collection in the world. Learn more: > >http://www.ancestry.com/s13965/rd.ashx > > > > > > ============================== > Jumpstart your genealogy with OneWorldTree. Search not only for > ancestors, but entire generations. Learn more: > http://www.ancestry.com/s13972/rd.ashx > > ----------------------------------------- Email provided by http://www.ntlhome.com/