I've just begun transcribing the 1841 census for Waddesdon (300 names done so far, about 1500 to go). When it's finished, I'd like to make it generally available, but don't have a website & I'm not interested in setting one up at the moment. Does anyone have any suggestions? I'd also be grateful if anyone is willing to check it when I've finished. There are names & a couple of jobs which could benefit from a second opinion. I intend to impose no restrictions on the use of the transcription, except that it should not be used for commercial purposes. I do not count inclusion by clubs & societies in their publications as a commercial use. Does anyone know of any other parishes in Bucks for which the 1841 census has been transcribed? I only know of Hanslope & Wing, & I have no relatives in either :( Paul -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.308 / Virus Database: 266.7.3 - Release Date: 15/03/05

Hi Glenda, The 1851 census for Bucks shows the following: Thomas Freeman head age 70 born Addlestrop in Gloucester occupation Farmer of 260acres Hannah Freeman wife age 62 born Oddington in Gloucester Richard Freeman son age 24 born West Wycombe Edwin Freeman son age 20 born West Wycombe Fanny Freeman daughter age 17 born Chilton and a Servant Ann Small age 23 born Chearsly living in Chilton Corrall -------Original Message------- From: [email protected] Date: 03/16/05 19:44:02 To: [email protected] Subject: [ENG-BUCK] Bucks Resources Hi all, It's been a while since I was part of this list (computer problems). I am trying to do some research for a friend at work and am a bit stuck. Her family were Thomas FREEMAN and wife Hannah and their children including her ancestor James FREEMAN born 1814 in West Wycombe. I have looked at the parish film but there was no marriage for Thomas and Hannah. James by 1850 is married to Jane SPIERS born at Long Crendon and they are living in Kent. I have checked the 1861 index on line at 1837.com for Thomas and Hannah in Kent but they aren't there. I suspect they were already dead. I thought I should look at the 1841 census to at least see where Thomas and Hannah were born but looking at the LDS catalogue I couldn't seem to find any evidence of and 1841 census or any census films for West Wycombe. I guess they are part of somewhere else. Can anyone tell me what area of Buckinghamshire I should be looking at in terms of the census then? Many thanks Glenda ============================== Search Family and Local Histories for stories about your family and the areas they lived. Over 85 million names added in the last 12 months. Learn more: http://www.ancestry.com/s13966/rd.ashx

Hello everyone, this is my second posting about early 16th century tenants of the manor of Great Horwood. As I explained before (in a posting about Henry Wattes, gent, of Winslow), I'm studying the people who owned land in Great Horwood between 1400 and 1600, and I'm hoping that other list members may be able to tell me something about certain absentee landowners who had land in the village but didn't live there. This posting is about the Colyer family, who began as peasants in Great Horwood but moved up and out in the late 15th century. The first to leave Great Horwood was HENRY COLYER, probably born around 1430-40, died 1501. Though his father William had begun as a mere peasant husbandman, Henry somehow acquired a legal education and became a lawyer. By the time he died he owned land in Buckingham, Tingewick, Padbury and Brackley as well as Great Horwood, and appears in one record as a gentleman (said to be of Hogshaw, though he doesn't seem to have owned any land there). His will and that of his wife Margaret (died 1503) were proved in the PCC, and an Inquisition post Mortem was held into his properties. He was succeeded by two sons, HENRY COLYER (died c1510) and RICHARD COLYER (still living 1526). He left them a sizeable estate in the village, of five farms and six cottages, which the younger Henry passed on to his brother Richard intact, but which Richard broke up and sold off in the 1520s. I know of the younger Henry and Richard only from the Great Horwood records, but I don't believe they lived in the village, and suspect that they were living as minor gentry somewhere else (Richard does not appear in the 1522 Muster Roll anywhere in Bucks, however). The Colyers disappear from the Great Horwood records after 1529. Henry junior died unmarried, I think, but Richard had a wife Alice and they were both still living when they sold off the last of their Great Horwood properties. There was a third brother, Bartholomew (mentioned just twice, in 1502) and a sister Agnes, who married a London goldsmith called EDWARD HATCOMBE. They seem sometimes to have used a relative, RICHARD COWLEY, as a trustee. I hope that someone may be able to point me towards some information about any of these Colyers in the world outside Great Horwood. Ideally information about their social and economic activities and standing, but even purely genealogical data would be gratefully received. And of course if they are anyone's ancestors then I'll be happy to supply what information I have about their history in Great Horwood in return (in fact generally I can do this for anyone who has ancestors in Great Horwood before 1600). Thanks very much, Matt Tompkins Centre for English Local History University of Leicester 5 Salisbury Road Leicester LE1 7QR

Good morning from Australia, I have recently discovered ancestors from Buckinghamshire, which is a "new" county of research for me, so I would appreciate any advise & guidance. The families I am researching are WHITTON, PERRIAGE & PARSONS. I have George WHITTON baptised 17 May 1765 in Aston Clinton, son of William WHITTON & Ann PARSONS.George Married Charlotte PERRIAGE in Tring, Hertfordshire on 24 December 1789 & had 9 children all baptised in Aston Clinton. George's parents William WHITTON & Ann PARSONS were married in Aston Clinton on 13 October 1754. Any connections out there, William & Ann's great grandson emigrated to Australia & have left many WHITTON descendants. Best regards Jenny in Melbourne

Hi Glen, I've just checked the 1851 - there is a family who matches yours: Thomas Coleman, Head, widow, age 24, born Turweston, occ Ag. Lab. John Coleman, son, age 9, born Turweston Ann Coleman, daughter, age 7 born Turweston Edmund Coleman, son, age 4, born Turweston Elizabeth Coleman, daughter, age 2, born Turweston Living in Turweston. This is from the transcription CD I have from the BFHS it has the same folio & piece numbers as the ones you listed. Corrall -------Original Message------- From: [email protected] Date: 03/13/05 16:14:16 To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [ENG-BUCK] 1851 Census - Thomas Coleman This could in someway be distantly connected, I have listed an Elizabeth Ann Coleman who married my connection Beville Arthur Southam in Turweston 22 Apr 1886 d Leicester 2 Nov 1918. Elizabeth Ann was aged 20 when she married. The Southam's can be traced back to 1769 in Turweston. Cliff Southam, Llanidloes, Powys ----- Original Message ----- From: "Glen Alderson" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Friday, March 11, 2005 1:22 PM Subject: [ENG-BUCK] 1851 Census - Thomas Coleman >I have two favors of SKS. First will SKS check the 1851 census for Thomas >Coleman and family. I need the birth place for the son John age 9. From >information I received previously Thomas was a widower age 24. > The second request is would SKS check the original image of the census for > piece 1735 folio 256 sched 0043 to verify Thomas's age. He is a little > young to have a son aged 9. > The family I have piece together is as follows: > Thomas Coleman married Louisa Faulkner Brackley Dec 1841 > Son John born Headington Jun 1842 > Daughter Ann born Brackley Mar 1844 > Son Edward born Brackley Sept 1846 > Daughter Elizabeth born Brackley Mar 1849 > Wife Louisa died Brackley Mar 1851 > Thomas must have remarried as he has two more children in the 1871 census > and a wife named Mary Ann. > It will be interesting to see the 1861 census for this family. > Glen Alderson > Calgary Alberta > > > ============================== > Search Family and Local Histories for stories about your family and the > areas they lived. Over 85 million names added in the last 12 months. > Learn more: http://www.ancestry.com/s13966/rd.ashx > > > > -- > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. > Version: 7.0.300 / Virus Database: 266.7.2 - Release Date: 11/03/2005 > ============================== Search Family and Local Histories for stories about your family and the areas they lived. Over 85 million names added in the last 12 months. Learn more: http://www.ancestry.com/s13966/rd.ashx

This could in someway be distantly connected, I have listed an Elizabeth Ann Coleman who married my connection Beville Arthur Southam in Turweston 22 Apr 1886 d Leicester 2 Nov 1918. Elizabeth Ann was aged 20 when she married. The Southam's can be traced back to 1769 in Turweston. Cliff Southam, Llanidloes, Powys ----- Original Message ----- From: "Glen Alderson" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Friday, March 11, 2005 1:22 PM Subject: [ENG-BUCK] 1851 Census - Thomas Coleman >I have two favors of SKS. First will SKS check the 1851 census for Thomas >Coleman and family. I need the birth place for the son John age 9. From >information I received previously Thomas was a widower age 24. > The second request is would SKS check the original image of the census for > piece 1735 folio 256 sched 0043 to verify Thomas's age. He is a little > young to have a son aged 9. > The family I have piece together is as follows: > Thomas Coleman married Louisa Faulkner Brackley Dec 1841 > Son John born Headington Jun 1842 > Daughter Ann born Brackley Mar 1844 > Son Edward born Brackley Sept 1846 > Daughter Elizabeth born Brackley Mar 1849 > Wife Louisa died Brackley Mar 1851 > Thomas must have remarried as he has two more children in the 1871 census > and a wife named Mary Ann. > It will be interesting to see the 1861 census for this family. > Glen Alderson > Calgary Alberta > > > ============================== > Search Family and Local Histories for stories about your family and the > areas they lived. Over 85 million names added in the last 12 months. > Learn more: http://www.ancestry.com/s13966/rd.ashx > > > > -- > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. > Version: 7.0.300 / Virus Database: 266.7.2 - Release Date: 11/03/2005 >

he 1851 census has Thomas & all his children living in & born Turweston, BKM. But birthplaces in censuses aren't always correct. The place names you give were registration districts as well as towns, & if I remember correctly, Turweston was in Brackley registration district. The dates you give are for the quarters (ending those months) in which the events were registered, so they could have been born up to 4.5 months earlier. Headington is some distance away, in Oxfordshire, and there were other Coleman marriages there, so I wouldn't trust that birth. Another possibility is that young John married an older girl, who already had a son, & John isn't his, & wasn't originally called Coleman. It wouldn't be the first time. I've just had a look at Turweston in 1841, & there *is* a Thomas Coleman the right age - 15, in fact - Ag Lab, living with Ann, 20, Lace M. & head of the family, Caroline, 15, & Eliza 3. All born in county. Siblings, & parents dead? Parents away? Also, FreeBMD show the marriage of a Thomas Coleman in Brackley district in March quarter 1844, probably to Elizabeth Lovell. And there's a Brackley birth of a John William Lovell in Jun qtr 1841. who I can't see in Bucks in the 1851 census. What you really need (as well as checking if Thomas really was 24) are some certificates. Birth certificates will give both parents names, & the mothers maiden name - and if she had more than one previous name, both. Or you could pay for some searches of the Bucks FHS databases. Turweston baptisms are on it from 1695 to1874, marriages from 1575 to 1850, & burials from 1696 to 1934. Paul Glen Alderson wrote: >I have two favors of SKS. First will SKS check the 1851 census for Thomas Coleman and family. I need the birth place for the son John age 9. From information I received previously Thomas was a widower age 24. >The second request is would SKS check the original image of the census for piece 1735 folio 256 sched 0043 to verify Thomas's age. He is a little young to have a son aged 9. >The family I have piece together is as follows: >Thomas Coleman married Louisa Faulkner Brackley Dec 1841 >Son John born Headington Jun 1842 >Daughter Ann born Brackley Mar 1844 >Son Edward born Brackley Sept 1846 >Daughter Elizabeth born Brackley Mar 1849 >Wife Louisa died Brackley Mar 1851 >Thomas must have remarried as he has two more children in the 1871 census and a wife named Mary Ann. >It will be interesting to see the 1861 census for this family. >Glen Alderson >Calgary Alberta > > >============================== >Search Family and Local Histories for stories about your family and the >areas they lived. Over 85 million names added in the last 12 months. >Learn more: http://www.ancestry.com/s13966/rd.ashx > > > > > -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.308 / Virus Database: 266.7.2 - Release Date: 11/03/05

Hello List, Would SKS be able to look-up the following family in the 1841 Census for Aston Abbotts... Samuel GATES 55yrs, wife Susanah 53yrs, Both born Aston Abbotts, TIA

Hello List, was wondering if anyone would be able to do a look-up for the surname MEADOWS in Newport Pagnell, Most of mine came from that area, Hope I'm not asking the impossible, TIA

Hi. Paul Thank you very much for the reply and comments. I have tracked Thomas Coleman in the 1871, 1881, 1891, and 1901 census. You gave me the 1871 census where he was in Sevenoaks Kent. His age in all census records ends in 9. I will order the certificates later as at present the money is going for certificates for decendents of Thomas's son William. I don't even know if I have the correct Coleman family that had a daughter marry an Harold Alderson in Brackley in 1936. Harold his my great uncle. He disappeared after the Frist World War. With the help of the Alderson Family History Society we found a death for a Harold Patrick Alderson in 1972 in Cardiff. The birth date on the death was the same as my Harold. From a newspaper death notice I discovered that Harold had a wife Alice, daughter Alice, son in law David and grandchildren. A search of the marriage index for all Harold Alderson marriages between 1919 and 1972 cross reference to births of a child named Alice Alderson gave me the marriage Harold Alderson to Alice Coleman in Brackley in 1936 and the daughter Alice born in Derby in 1939. From the marriage certificate Alice's father was a William Coleman. William was dead at time of the marriage. The mother Alice died in 1975 in Cardiff and the daughter Alice married in Carrdiff in 1958. On the death index Alice's date of birth is given as 3 June 1908 so I checked the 1901 census for any William Coleman in the Brackley area. I may be wrong in my family connection as I just checked FreeBMD and came up with a birth for an Alice Coleman registered not in Brackley but in Luton in the June Qtr 1908. So I am ordering the mother Alice's death certificate to confirm place of birth and the daughter Alice's marriage to check on her age. Getting back to William Alice's father. The 1901 census gave me that William was married to an Amelia Annie. Based on Williams age I traced him to the Thomas we have been tracking. At present I am trying to gather as much information that I can hoping that I do have the correct family. Amelia Annie's family was a little easier as her name is not common. Paul if you don't mind would you check the 1841 census again for any other Thomas Coleman in Turweston. I know that the 1841 census had the age rounded up or down in a lot of cases. Thank you for your time. I did get a little long winded. Glen Alderson Calgary Alberta Canada

I have two favors of SKS. First will SKS check the 1851 census for Thomas Coleman and family. I need the birth place for the son John age 9. From information I received previously Thomas was a widower age 24. The second request is would SKS check the original image of the census for piece 1735 folio 256 sched 0043 to verify Thomas's age. He is a little young to have a son aged 9. The family I have piece together is as follows: Thomas Coleman married Louisa Faulkner Brackley Dec 1841 Son John born Headington Jun 1842 Daughter Ann born Brackley Mar 1844 Son Edward born Brackley Sept 1846 Daughter Elizabeth born Brackley Mar 1849 Wife Louisa died Brackley Mar 1851 Thomas must have remarried as he has two more children in the 1871 census and a wife named Mary Ann. It will be interesting to see the 1861 census for this family. Glen Alderson Calgary Alberta

Hi Iris Here's your family in 1851: Gayhurst,Lathbury & Tyringham 1723 463 0009 Gayhurst Thomas MEADOWS HD M 54 M Ag. Lab. Castle Thorpe BKM Pheby MEADOWS WI M 54 F Castle Thorpe BKM Thomas MEADOWS SO U 23 M Ag. Lab. Gayhurst BKM Betsey MEADOWS DA U 22 F Lacemaker Gayhurst BKM Joseph MEADOWS SO U 15 M Ag. Lab. Stoke Golding BKM Phebe MEADOWS GD 2 F Wolverton Station BKM 1841: Gayhurst HO 107/53/3 folio 6, page 5 Thos Meadows 45 Ag lab Sarah 15 Thomas 10 Betsey 10 Eliza 5 John 5 Joseph 5 Harriet 3 all born in county No sign of Pheby Jenny ----- Original Message ----- From: "iris hector" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Wednesday, March 09, 2005 8:37 PM Subject: [ENG-BUCK] Stoke Golding 1841-1851 Census Look-up > Hello List, would SKS with the 1841 or 1851 Census for Stoke Golding be able > to look-up the following for me please.. Thomas > MEADOWS born 1896 Castlethorpe & his wife Phoebe, Children, Thomas born > 1825, Haversham, Betsey born 1828 Haversham & Joseph born 1835 Stoke > Golding, Bucks, TIA > > > ============================== > View and search Historical Newspapers. Read about your ancestors, find > marriage announcements and more. Learn more: > http://www.ancestry.com/s13969/rd.ashx > >

Hello List, would SKS with the 1841 or 1851 Census for Stoke Golding be able to look-up the following for me please.. Thomas MEADOWS born 1896 Castlethorpe & his wife Phoebe, Children, Thomas born 1825, Haversham, Betsey born 1828 Haversham & Joseph born 1835 Stoke Golding, Bucks, TIA

Hello list, Would SKS with the 1841 or 1851 Census be able to do a look-up for the following. Edwin MEADOWS born circa 1819 Haversham & any other MEADOWS in that area please, Iris

Hi list From the 1851 Bucks census, four of my PAYNEs were born in Little Linford, I wonder if anyone can possibly check PRs for the baptisms - and also see if there were later marriages and/or burials. The four were all children of farmer/grazier William PAYNE and Charlotte (nee ARIS): William bn 1830/1 John bn 1835/6 married someone abt 1863 who died before 1871 after having 3 children, name so far unknown Charlotte bn 1838/9 Mary bn 1841/2 Parents William and Charlotte had come over to Bucks from Northants (he from Boddington, she from Lois Weedeon, where they married in 1827) Son William stayed on at Little Linford at least until 1881, didn't marry. Son John with his children, two sisters and mother Charlotte moved back to Northants and was a farmer in Everdon 1871 onwards. If anyone connects with these folk, it would be good to hear from you. Celia Renshaw In Chesterfield UK

Unfortunately not. I just did what I should have done at first, & checked the 1851 census. Thomas (b abt 1846) was the son of George. The only candidate for your Thomas in Bucks in 1851 is wither a bit young, or there's a mistake in the transcription. I favour the latter, taking into account the ages of his children. A 9 could be mistaken for a 4, especially since the age column was the one most favoured for enumerators marks - Turweston - piece 1735 folio 256 sched 0043 Thomas COLEMAN wid 24(??) b Turweston Ag Lab John son 9 do Ann dau 7 do Edmund son 4 do Elizabeth dau 2 do Find him in the 1861 census with some of those children & some of the younger ones, & I think it'll be definite. The 1861 BGS transcription is due out any day now (but has been for months). It'd better turn up soon: I paid for it last August. When it does, you should get more answers. Paul Glen Alderson wrote: > Thank you very much Paul. The Thomas in Turweston could be a son. All > I had was the son William which is the one that goes on and marries an > Amelia Gulliver and has a daughter Alice that marries in to the > Alderson family. > > Glen Alderson > ----- Original Message ----- From: "Paul Irving" > <[email protected]> > To: <[email protected]> > Sent: Saturday, March 05, 2005 3:16 PM > Subject: Re: [ENG-BUCK] 1861/1871 Census lookup > > >> Nowhere near! In 1871 they were (wait for it . . .) in Sevenoaks, Kent. >> >> Thomas Coleman 49 b "Forweston" (sic) BKM >> Mary Ann wife 49 b Whitfield NTH >> William son 15 b Turweston BKM >> Mary Ellen dau 11 b Turweston BKM >> >> Ancestry.com really have a problem with their indexing, don't they? >> >> BTW, there was also a Thomas Coleman 25 b Turweston, still in >> Turweston. Wife Eliza, 29, b Whitfield. Children George 7, Whitfield; >> Elizth, 6, Brackley; William, 3, Turweston,; Mary Ann 2 weeks, >> Turweston. Another son? >> >> Paul >> >> >> Glen Alderson wrote: >> >>> Would SKS please do a lookup in the 1861 and/or 1871 census for a >>> Thomas Coleman. In the 1881 census Thomas is at Brackley >>> Northampton. Thomas (age58 in 1881) and son William (age 22 in 1881) >>> births are shown as Turweston Bucks. Thomas's wife Mary Ann (age 58 >>> in 1881) birth is Whitfield Northampton. In 1881 a grandson James >>> Wallace (age 14) is living with Thomas and family. James birth is at >>> Brackley. I supect that the family was still in the Brackley area in >>> 1861 and 1871 census. >>> Glen Alderson >>> Calgary Alberta >>> >>> >>> ============================== >>> Search the US Census Collection. Over 140 million records added in the >>> last 12 months. Largest online collection in the world. Learn more: >>> http://www.ancestry.com/s13965/rd.ashx >>> >>> >>> >>> >> >> >> >> -- >> No virus found in this outgoing message. >> Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. >> Version: 7.0.308 / Virus Database: 266.6.2 - Release Date: 04/03/05 >> >> >> ============================== >> Jumpstart your genealogy with OneWorldTree. Search not only for >> ancestors, but entire generations. Learn more: >> http://www.ancestry.com/s13972/rd.ashx >> >> > > > > ============================== > New! Family Tree Maker 2005. Build your tree and search for your > ancestors at the same time. Share your tree with family and friends. > Learn more: > http://landing.ancestry.com/familytreemaker/2005/tour.aspx?sourceid=14599&targetid=5429 > > > > -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.308 / Virus Database: 266.6.2 - Release Date: 04/03/05

Nowhere near! In 1871 they were (wait for it . . .) in Sevenoaks, Kent. Thomas Coleman 49 b "Forweston" (sic) BKM Mary Ann wife 49 b Whitfield NTH William son 15 b Turweston BKM Mary Ellen dau 11 b Turweston BKM Ancestry.com really have a problem with their indexing, don't they? BTW, there was also a Thomas Coleman 25 b Turweston, still in Turweston. Wife Eliza, 29, b Whitfield. Children George 7, Whitfield; Elizth, 6, Brackley; William, 3, Turweston,; Mary Ann 2 weeks, Turweston. Another son? Paul Glen Alderson wrote: >Would SKS please do a lookup in the 1861 and/or 1871 census for a Thomas Coleman. In the 1881 census Thomas is at Brackley Northampton. Thomas (age58 in 1881) and son William (age 22 in 1881) births are shown as Turweston Bucks. Thomas's wife Mary Ann (age 58 in 1881) birth is Whitfield Northampton. In 1881 a grandson James Wallace (age 14) is living with Thomas and family. James birth is at Brackley. I supect that the family was still in the Brackley area in 1861 and 1871 census. >Glen Alderson >Calgary Alberta > > >============================== >Search the US Census Collection. Over 140 million records added in the >last 12 months. Largest online collection in the world. Learn more: http://www.ancestry.com/s13965/rd.ashx > > > > > -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.308 / Virus Database: 266.6.2 - Release Date: 04/03/05

Thank you very much Paul. The Thomas in Turweston could be a son. All I had was the son William which is the one that goes on and marries an Amelia Gulliver and has a daughter Alice that marries in to the Alderson family. Glen Alderson ----- Original Message ----- From: "Paul Irving" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Saturday, March 05, 2005 3:16 PM Subject: Re: [ENG-BUCK] 1861/1871 Census lookup > Nowhere near! In 1871 they were (wait for it . . .) in Sevenoaks, Kent. > > Thomas Coleman 49 b "Forweston" (sic) BKM > Mary Ann wife 49 b Whitfield NTH > William son 15 b Turweston BKM > Mary Ellen dau 11 b Turweston BKM > > Ancestry.com really have a problem with their indexing, don't they? > > BTW, there was also a Thomas Coleman 25 b Turweston, still in Turweston. > Wife Eliza, 29, b Whitfield. Children George 7, Whitfield; Elizth, 6, > Brackley; William, 3, Turweston,; Mary Ann 2 weeks, Turweston. Another > son? > > Paul > > > Glen Alderson wrote: > >>Would SKS please do a lookup in the 1861 and/or 1871 census for a Thomas >>Coleman. In the 1881 census Thomas is at Brackley Northampton. Thomas >>(age58 in 1881) and son William (age 22 in 1881) births are shown as >>Turweston Bucks. Thomas's wife Mary Ann (age 58 in 1881) birth is >>Whitfield Northampton. In 1881 a grandson James Wallace (age 14) is living >>with Thomas and family. James birth is at Brackley. I supect that the >>family was still in the Brackley area in 1861 and 1871 census. >>Glen Alderson >>Calgary Alberta >> >> >>============================== >>Search the US Census Collection. Over 140 million records added in the >>last 12 months. Largest online collection in the world. Learn more: >>http://www.ancestry.com/s13965/rd.ashx >> >> >> >> > > > > -- > No virus found in this outgoing message. > Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. > Version: 7.0.308 / Virus Database: 266.6.2 - Release Date: 04/03/05 > > > ============================== > Jumpstart your genealogy with OneWorldTree. Search not only for > ancestors, but entire generations. Learn more: > http://www.ancestry.com/s13972/rd.ashx > >

Would SKS please do a lookup in the 1861 and/or 1871 census for a Thomas Coleman. In the 1881 census Thomas is at Brackley Northampton. Thomas (age58 in 1881) and son William (age 22 in 1881) births are shown as Turweston Bucks. Thomas's wife Mary Ann (age 58 in 1881) birth is Whitfield Northampton. In 1881 a grandson James Wallace (age 14) is living with Thomas and family. James birth is at Brackley. I supect that the family was still in the Brackley area in 1861 and 1871 census. Glen Alderson Calgary Alberta

Richard E. Kent wrote: >>I,m just a rookie here, but were there any English wars during these times >>that he may have been killed in? Paul Irving wrote: >Oh yes. That's an interesting suggestion, Richard, though death in a war wouldn't have been a very common cause of fatality among Englishmen of the Tudor period. There were no civil wars in England the 16th century, and while there were a few rebellions, they were all brief, unsuccessful affairs and did not result in many fatalities (and those who did die were mostly from the extremities of the country - the north and also the southwest, plus a very small number from East Anglia). I seem to remember that a few Bucks people were involved in some minor upheaval in the early 16th century, and possibly one or two of them was hanged afterwards, but Henry Wattes was alive as late as 1556, and I think the Bucks rebels I'm thinking of were from the classes below the gentry (their leader was a priest from somewhere near Brill, I seem to remember). As for external wars, there was of course the Armada, in 1584, and campaigns in Scotland in the 1510s and 1540s, plus endemic low intensity warfare (often little more than banditry, really) on the Scottish border and in Ireland, but all of these wars involved only a tiny fraction of the English population. An interesting idea, though, and thank you for it. Matt