at this time, I dont have either a Ricard or a rebecca Fereday listed, on saying that, I haven't "come forward" with the line, my first connection in to fereday is a 4th great grandmother (nancy) b abt 1805, so the ones I have are from her back, Wanda would have much more on them its a direct line for her, there seemed to be a few of them and all in the same area, I am sure a few weeks trawling the p[arish records would reveal some connections though. As I dont have time to think (ok i so idont do that at any time!) some days, I might see what the IGI has thrown together, have a "fereday day" if you see what I mean, thats about how I do things at the moment, on every other weekend that I am not on call, I think I will have a "genie" day! Pick a name and run with it is pretty much how i do things anyway LOL I have printed off the email though and put it in the fereday box! hell thats a start!! Mellie How Come My Coat Of Arms Has Buckles At The Back?