Pre Dr. Beeching (those abroad may have to google him), Snow Hill Station Birmingham was the GWR mainline station for the East side of the Black Country, it was a fantastic place (apart from the starlings that used to roost in the frontage <g>). Snow Hill, after many years of disuse, is now returning to life and expanding, albeit without the wonderful architecture, but that's another story......... It was one of the few places that one (especially our ancestors) could tell what the coming weather would be by the smell as soon as one walked out onto Colmore Row. If one could smell chocolate, the wind was blowing Westerly from Cadburys (in Bournville) and rain was on the way. If one could smell spices the wind was blowing Easterly from the HP SAUCE factory in Aston with fine weather resulting. I don't think that in future the smell from HP will carry across the North Sea from foreign parts or even taste the same! It's all double dutch to me! Looks as if it's back to cooking our own BC home-made chutney and ignoring Heinz! Has anyone any recipes for chutney/brown sauce that might beat mine and take the place of the new Heinz concoction when it moves aboad? Dave Angry of Wednesbury England List Admin:- Black Country etc.,