Morning Polly, I cannot see that these two terms, "step son" and "son in law" are interchangeable. whilst I agree that both relationships are by marriage, surly there is a generation gap. In my book a step son in only created by a second marriage where the new wife or husband takes on not only a partner, but also the children of the partner's first marriage. Any son of the first marriage being a step son to the second wife/husband. On the other hand a son in law is simply the husband of a daughter. Or has that changed? Regards Ted. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Polly Rubery" <polly@rowberry.org> To: <ENG-BLACK-COUNTRY-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Monday, April 24, 2006 6:49 AM Subject: Re: [B.C.] Collins > Hi Anne > > "Son-in-law" in this case means what we would now call a "step-son" (ie > the > relationship is through marriage). > > So to find Mary's maiden name you need to locate her marriage to John > COLLINS between 1841 and 1851 and order the certificate. This should give > you her father's name, and hence her maiden name. > Polly > Polly Rubery > List admin: MIDMARCH-L@rootsweb.com > A genealogy and local history list covering the Counties of Brecon, > Hereford, Monmouth, Shropshire, Stafford and Worcester. > ENG-HEREFORD@rootsweb.com > A genealogy and local history list covering the County of Hereford > ROWBERRY-L@rootsweb.com > ROWBERRY/RUBERY ONS - GOONS #278 > rowberry@one-name.org > http://www.rowberry.org > Webmaster for the Herefordshire Family History Society > http://www.rootsweb.com/~ukhfhs/index.html > ----- Original Message ----- > From: <ianandanne@optusnet.com.au> > To: <ENG-BLACK-COUNTRY-L@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Monday, April 24, 2006 4:02 AM > Subject: [B.C.] Collins > > > > Hi All, > > I know there are a few COLLINS family researchers out there and I'm hoping > that one of you can help me with this family. > > Found on the 1851 census- > Birmingham Rd, West Bromwich > John COLLINS, head, married, 73, nailor, West Bromwich > Mary Ann COLLINS, wife, married, 53, West Bromwich > James MARTIN, son-in-law, single, 32, general labourer, West Bromwich > William MARTIN, son-in-law, single, 32, engineer, West Bromwich > David MARTIN, son-in-law, single, 19, nail castor, West Bromwich > John James COLLINS, grandson, single, 4, at home, West Bromwich. > > I think that the David MARTIN listed is my 3G Grandfather, but I am trying > to work out the relationship to the COLLINS family. On the 1841 census > David > is listed with a Mary, James & William MARTIN, of course with no > relationships listed I'm just guessing that they may have all been > siblings > with the possiblity that Mary may have been the mother. > > So does anyone own this family and if you do, do you know the maiden name > of the wife? > > Thanks > Anne Sweetman > Brisbane, Australia > > > ==== ENG-BLACK-COUNTRY Mailing List ==== > Wherever possible (except for personal messages) > please post replies to the list.Other people can learn from them! > > > ==== ENG-BLACK-COUNTRY Mailing List ==== > The B.C. List Admin is Dave Ogden :- > d.ogden@blueyonder.co.uk > > > > -- > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG Free Edition. > Version: 7.1.385 / Virus Database: 268.4.5/321 - Release Date: 21/04/2006 > >