Hi Jan, Don't know if this will help you but it won't hurt to post it just in case there is a link. Denyse in Queensland -------- Name: John Billingham Birth: abt 1823 Dudley Wood, near Cradley Heath, Staffordshire Occupation: Chainmaker Marriage: 22 Mar 1841 St Thomas C of E, Dudley, Worcestershire Spouse: Mary Gill (sister of my husband's ancestor) Birth: abt 1823 Netherton, Worcestershire Christen: 8 Jun 1823 St Thomas, Dudley, Worcestershire Father: Daniel Gill (1800->1861)Mother: Sylvia "Selvy" Hampton (1799->1871) Children: 1: Benjamin Billingham Birth: abt 1843 Rowley Regis, Staffordshire Spouse: Elizabeth Roberts Marriage: 17 Sep 1866 St Thomas C of E, Dudley, Worcestershire ---------------------------------------- 2: James Billingham Birth: abt 1845 Rowley Regis, Staffordshire Spouse: Sarah Matthews Marriage: 25 Dec 1872 St Thomas C of E, Dudley, Worcestershire ---------------------------------------- 3: Joseph Billingham Birth: abt 1846 Rowley Regis, Staffordshire ---------------------------------------- 4: Henry Billingham Birth: 23 Dec 1850 Tibbets Gardens, Rowley Regis, Staffordshire Death: 15 Jun 1940 Occupation: chainmaker Spouse: Ruth Yarnold Marriage: 28 May 1872 St Thomas C of E, Dudley, Worcestershire ---------------------------------------- 5: Sylvia Billingham Birth: abt 1853 Rowley Regis, Staffordshire ---------------------------------------- 6: Selena Billingham Birth: abt 1855 Rowley Regis, Staffordshire ---------------------------------------- 7: Alfred Billingham Birth: abt 1858 Rowley Regis, Staffordshire Occupation: Chainmaker Spouse: Polly ---------------------------------------- 8: Mary Ann Billingham Birth: abt 1862 Rowley Regis, Staffordshire ---------------------------------------- 9: John Billingham Birth: abt 1864 Rowley Regis, Staffordshire ------------------------------------------ Notes for John Billingham John and Mary lived at Dudley Wood, near Cradley Heath until 1842, when they moved to Tibbetts' Garden. 1881 Census. 32 Tibbetts Garden, Rowley Regis, Stafford: PRO Ref: RG11. Piece/Folio: 2861 / 155. Page 50 John Billingham, head, marr, 58, b Rowley, chainmaker Mary Billingham, wife, marr, 56, b Dudley Maryan Billingham, dau, unmarr, 19, b Rowley, chainmaker John Billingham, son, unmarr, 17, b Rowley, chainmaker Notes for Mary Gill In the baptismal register her mother's nickname "Selvy" is used. Notes for Henry (Child 4) 1881 Census. 31 Tibbetts Garden, Rowley Regis, Stafford PRO Ref: RG11. Piece / Folio: 2861 / 155. Page 50: Henry Billingham, head, marr, 28, b Rowley, Chainmaker Ruth Billingham, wife, marr, 26, b Rowley, chainmaker Amy Billingham, dau, 10, b Rowley, scholar John Billingham, son, 8, b Rowley, scholar Henry Billingham, son, b Rowley, scholar Edward Billingham, son, 3, b Rowley, scholar Lottie Billingham, dau, 5 mths, b Rowley Notes for Alfred (Child 7) 1881 Census 31 Tibbetts Garden, Rowley Regis, Stafford PRO Ref: RG11. Piece / Folio: 2861 / 155. Page 50: Alfred Billingham, head, marr, 22, b Rowley, chainmaker Polly Billingham, wife, marr, 21, b Rowley Joseph Billingham, son, 3 mths, b Rowley