Hi Bryan >>Since i was at gmother's 80th birthday party i at least have the quarter and year<< But don't forget that one had 42 days to register a birth, so that, for example, a birth in mid-November might appear in the index for the March quarter of the following year. But in 1910, when Pensions were first introduced, not everyone entitled had a birth certificate anyway, having been born before 1 Jul 1837, so a baptism certificate was accepted as well, and in many cases the censuses were consulted too, hence the statement at the top of the 1911 Household schedule "The returns are not to be used for proof of age, as in connection with Old Age Pensions..." - just in case people were tempted to record themselves as older than they really were...:-) There are cases of births just not being registered, but more often than not they are there, but lurking somewhere unexpected (especially to those who don't know about the 42 days grace), under a strange mis-spelling (such as YEWBERRY for RUBERY!) or another surname altogether (such as the mother's maiden name). I have been trying to follow this thread, but have been working very long hours this week, so I apologise if I have missed it, but did you actually ever post the details of the person whose birth you were seeking? Kind regards Polly Thanks Bryan Slim ------------------------------------- The only List that specifically covers the whole of the Black Country. Run by Black Country folk who were born and still live in the area. ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

HI Polly, Good of you to respond and suggest naming my candidate. Following you suggestion, i looked for my grandmother under her mother's maiden name and there she was, together with a third forename being her father's surname, in Q4 1877. I hope I can return the assistance one day. Many thanks. Bryan

Hi Bryan Well what can I say, except I am very glad that you found it! Polly ----- Original Message ----- From: "Bryan Slim" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]>; "Polly Rubery" <[email protected]> Sent: Friday, October 30, 2009 10:15 PM Subject: Re: [Black Country] proof of age for pension HI Polly, Good of you to respond and suggest naming my candidate. Following you suggestion, i looked for my grandmother under her mother's maiden name and there she was, together with a third forename being her father's surname, in Q4 1877. I hope I can return the assistance one day. Many thanks. Bryan