Hi Judy, Thanks for getting back to me. One of my 3xgreat grandmothers was Hannah Lloyd, born 1789 in Wolverley. Her parents were Thomas an Elizabeth Lloyd The Baggott family is not my direct line, I am researching it for a Baggott cousin once removed, but what a list of challenges it uncovers. An Edward Baggott married Elizabeth Diofs in Kingswinford in January 1705 but I have always wondered if that was her real name or a transcription error, have you seen the original script? I haven't so you may have one up on me there. The only place I have seen Diofs is on the LDS IGI site and copied onto many trees online. I would love to see the original and decide for myself. It sounds Dutch but even there I have found no such name. There was an Elizabeth Dicks, baptised in Dudley in 1681, that would make her 24 at marriage if it is her? I don't know. My Edward Baggott of the same period marries a Margaret Wannerton in Old Swinford in 1699. Both Edward Baggott and Elizabeth in Kingswinford and Edward Baggott and Margaret in Old Swinford had sons named Samuel, so your tree must come down from the Kingswinford line. As I recall Edward and Elizabeth had three children, Samuel, William and Elizabeth. My cousin descends through Edward and Margaret's son John, baptised 1725 in Old Swinford. I have not claimed any ancestors prior to Edward's father Edward in the mid-1600s as I cannot be sure of their line. I know a lot of folks go back through Humfrey Baggott in London but the son they all use to descend from him actually died in the plague at the age of 5 so that doesn't work for me. ...at least that is my interpretation. I have found so many Baggott charts going back to before the Normans with glaring errors in them that I never quite know what to believe so I'm very cautious. Gosh these Baggotts are fun. Lawrence Born Kidderminster living in Scotland -----Original Message----- From: Judy Evans [mailto:judy.evans27@btinternet.com] Sent: Tuesday, August 23, 2011 11:58 AM To: lawrencelowe@yahoo.co.uk Cc: eng-black-country@rootsweb.com Subject: BAGGOTT, DIOFS, WORTON, NOTT, LLOYD Hi Lawrence, My husband's 7x G Grandparents are Edward BAGGOTT and Elizabeth DIOFS. Their son Samuel had a daughter Elizabeth who married Abraham WORTON, their daughter Elizabeth WORTON married John NOTT. John & Elizabeth's NOTT's daughter Elizabeth married Leadenham LLOYD of Stourbridge. Judy ----- Original Message ---- From: LawrenceLowe <lawrencelowe@yahoo.co.uk> To: eng-black-country@rootsweb.com Sent: Tuesday, 23 August, 2011 8:06:41 Subject: Re: [Black Country] Roll Call: BAGGOTT, COX and WALL (... and DIOFS) My main names of interest are BAGGOTT, mainly from Old Swinford COX & WALL from Cookley, Wolverley and places north toward Stourbridge. .. And the mysterious transcription error (I think?) DIOFS of Kingswinford (1705)

Hi Judy and Lawrence >>An Edward Baggott married Elizabeth Diofs in Kingswinford in January 1705 but I have always wondered if that was her real name or a transcription error, have you seen the original script? I haven't so you may have one up on me there. The only place I have seen Diofs is on the LDS IGI site and copied onto many trees online. I would love to see the original and decide for myself. It sounds Dutch but even there I have found no such name. There was an Elizabeth Dicks, baptised in Dudley in 1681, that would make her 24 at marriage if it is her? I don't know.<< That sounds quite reasonable I can imagine someone reading the old hand Dicks as Diofs. although normally"fs" is a mis-transcription of a double "ss" where the first one is the old "long s" - which even occurs in printed work too. However since sending my first email on this subject I have been thinking about it and I wonder if it is a form of the name which today is DAYUS? Polly My Edward Baggott of the same period marries a Margaret Wannerton in Old Swinford in 1699. Both Edward Baggott and Elizabeth in Kingswinford and Edward Baggott and Margaret in Old Swinford had sons named Samuel, so your tree must come down from the Kingswinford line. As I recall Edward and Elizabeth had three children, Samuel, William and Elizabeth. My cousin descends through Edward and Margaret's son John, baptised 1725 in Old Swinford. I have not claimed any ancestors prior to Edward's father Edward in the mid-1600s as I cannot be sure of their line. I know a lot of folks go back through Humfrey Baggott in London but the son they all use to descend from him actually died in the plague at the age of 5 so that doesn't work for me. ...at least that is my interpretation. I have found so many Baggott charts going back to before the Normans with glaring errors in them that I never quite know what to believe so I'm very cautious. Gosh these Baggotts are fun. Lawrence Born Kidderminster living in Scotland -----Original Message----- From: Judy Evans [mailto:judy.evans27@btinternet.com] Sent: Tuesday, August 23, 2011 11:58 AM To: lawrencelowe@yahoo.co.uk Cc: eng-black-country@rootsweb.com Subject: BAGGOTT, DIOFS, WORTON, NOTT, LLOYD Hi Lawrence, My husband's 7x G Grandparents are Edward BAGGOTT and Elizabeth DIOFS. Their son Samuel had a daughter Elizabeth who married Abraham WORTON, their daughter Elizabeth WORTON married John NOTT. John & Elizabeth's NOTT's daughter Elizabeth married Leadenham LLOYD of Stourbridge. Judy ----- Original Message ---- From: LawrenceLowe <lawrencelowe@yahoo.co.uk> To: eng-black-country@rootsweb.com Sent: Tuesday, 23 August, 2011 8:06:41 Subject: Re: [Black Country] Roll Call: BAGGOTT, COX and WALL (... and DIOFS) My main names of interest are BAGGOTT, mainly from Old Swinford COX & WALL from Cookley, Wolverley and places north toward Stourbridge. .. And the mysterious transcription error (I think?) DIOFS of Kingswinford (1705) ------------------------------------- The only List that specifically covers the whole of the Black Country. Run by Black Country folk who were born and still live in the area. ****************************** ATTENTION TO ALL:- When replying please remove the details that do not apply to your mail and change the SUBJECT LINE for best useage of ARCHIVED MATERIALS. ------------------------------- ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to ENG-BLACK-COUNTRY-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message