Hi All I dont know if its because of the holidays but this list is so quite so lets have a roll call for all those families of ours that make us pull our hair our Mine are the Hill family Mary Hill born between 1883-1886, father John Hill Mother Amelia Richards , Amelia is only on the 1891 census has she died , but John Hill later married a Elizabeth Richards possibly Amelia sister John Hill I cant find him on any census before 1891 1891 census born Hereford , 1860, living at Smethwick on the 1901 its got age 50 and living at Trinity West Bromwich with wife Elizabeth born Hereford on the 1911 he is another age and if I remenber right he puts his birth down has West Bromwich , but I seem to have lost the 1911 census on him What I am looking for is any early census with him on and has his age keeps altering its hard , He married his first wife Amelia at St Pauls Smethwick in 1880 and his fathers name was John If I remenber right they where both blacksmiths , So can any one help please Cheers Cassy Cassy List Griffiths List Admin B.C, Wolverhampton and Potteries