Maurice, Geoff, I've looked on an 1884 map of the area in more detail and I still think "Utel" is "Howtel" due to the close proximity to the adjacent properties named on the census sheet before and after the page you described. It is still marked on the my 1999 OS map of the area and I can see it as a farm on Google Maps satellite view. The Hall is not named in the enumerator's instruction sheets for their route but the instructed routes for 1871,1881 and 1891 take them past the place. I used to live about 6 miles south of Alveley in North Kidderminster and would have cycled through those lanes, probably last time was in 1965! I recall the area but not the Hall. ( I now live 360 miles away in Scotland so can't pop over.) Good luck, Lawrence -----Original Message----- From: Maurice Sheppard [mailto:maurice@msheppard.com] Sent: Monday, August 29, 2011 9:16 PM To: lawrencelowe@yahoo.co.uk; eng-black-country@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [Black Country] 1881 Census Look up please And it Lawrence is correct, it gets a mention here:- http://www.nationalarchives.gov.uk/a2a/records.aspx?cat=166-2074&cid=-1#-1 Regards, Maurice Sheppard at The LONGMORE Pages http://www.msheppard.com ----- Original Message ----- From: "LawrenceLowe" <lawrencelowe@yahoo.co.uk> To: <eng-black-country@rootsweb.com> Sent: Monday, August 29, 2011 10:50 PM Subject: Re: [Black Country] 1881 Census Look up please > Geoff, > > My guess is that the "Ulet Hall" is actually "Howlet Hall". > > See old OS Map :- > > http://www.old-maps.co.uk/maps.html?txtXCoord=377642&txtYCoord=285053 > > If you walk the route of names on the census pages, Harts Green, Heath > Farm > and so on you will pass Howlet Hall, which bears a colloquial similarity > to > Ulet Hall.? > > Lawrence > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: eng-black-country-bounces@rootsweb.com > [mailto:eng-black-country-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Geoff Allen > Sent: Monday, August 29, 2011 7:57 PM > To: eng-black-country@rootsweb.com > Subject: [Black Country] 1881 Census Look up please > > > Could someone please do a look-up for me. I'm trying to locate where one > of my ancestors lived at the time of the 1881 census. The info on > Familysearch shows their location as Ulet Hall, Alveley, Shropshire. I > can't find this on any of the old maps, please could you confirm this > has been transcribed correctly. The details are: > > RG11 2631/34 Page 7 > > The head of the family is William ROWLEY. > > Many thanks for your help. > > Regards, > > Geoff > ------------------------------------- > The only List that specifically covers the whole of the Black Country. Run > by Black Country folk who were born and still live in the area. > ****************************** > ATTENTION TO ALL:- When replying please remove the details that do not > apply > to your mail and change the SUBJECT LINE for best useage of ARCHIVED > MATERIALS. > ------------------------------- > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > ENG-BLACK-COUNTRY-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without > the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > > ------------------------------------- > The only List that specifically covers the whole of the Black Country. Run > by Black Country folk who were born and still live in the area. > ****************************** > ATTENTION TO ALL:- When replying please remove the details that do not > apply to your mail and change the SUBJECT LINE for best useage of ARCHIVED > MATERIALS. > ------------------------------- > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > ENG-BLACK-COUNTRY-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without > the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

As a follow up it is now Howlett's Hall Farm, post code DY7 5LJ. Lawrence -----Original Message----- From: eng-black-country-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:eng-black-country-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of LawrenceLowe Sent: Tuesday, August 30, 2011 11:53 AM To: 'Maurice Sheppard'; eng-black-country@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [Black Country] 1881 Census Look up please Maurice, Geoff, I've looked on an 1884 map of the area in more detail and I still think "Utel" is "Howtel" due to the close proximity to the adjacent properties named on the census sheet before and after the page you described. It is still marked on the my 1999 OS map of the area and I can see it as a farm on Google Maps satellite view. The Hall is not named in the enumerator's instruction sheets for their route but the instructed routes for 1871,1881 and 1891 take them past the place. I used to live about 6 miles south of Alveley in North Kidderminster and would have cycled through those lanes, probably last time was in 1965! I recall the area but not the Hall. ( I now live 360 miles away in Scotland so can't pop over.) Good luck, Lawrence -----Original Message----- From: Maurice Sheppard [mailto:maurice@msheppard.com] Sent: Monday, August 29, 2011 9:16 PM To: lawrencelowe@yahoo.co.uk; eng-black-country@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [Black Country] 1881 Census Look up please And it Lawrence is correct, it gets a mention here:- http://www.nationalarchives.gov.uk/a2a/records.aspx?cat=166-2074&cid=-1#-1 Regards, Maurice Sheppard at The LONGMORE Pages http://www.msheppard.com ----- Original Message ----- From: "LawrenceLowe" <lawrencelowe@yahoo.co.uk> To: <eng-black-country@rootsweb.com> Sent: Monday, August 29, 2011 10:50 PM Subject: Re: [Black Country] 1881 Census Look up please > Geoff, > > My guess is that the "Ulet Hall" is actually "Howlet Hall". > > See old OS Map :- > > http://www.old-maps.co.uk/maps.html?txtXCoord=377642&txtYCoord=285053 > > If you walk the route of names on the census pages, Harts Green, Heath > Farm > and so on you will pass Howlet Hall, which bears a colloquial similarity > to > Ulet Hall.? > > Lawrence > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: eng-black-country-bounces@rootsweb.com > [mailto:eng-black-country-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Geoff Allen > Sent: Monday, August 29, 2011 7:57 PM > To: eng-black-country@rootsweb.com > Subject: [Black Country] 1881 Census Look up please > > > Could someone please do a look-up for me. I'm trying to locate where one > of my ancestors lived at the time of the 1881 census. The info on > Familysearch shows their location as Ulet Hall, Alveley, Shropshire. I > can't find this on any of the old maps, please could you confirm this > has been transcribed correctly. The details are: > > RG11 2631/34 Page 7 > > The head of the family is William ROWLEY. > > Many thanks for your help. > > Regards, > > Geoff > ------------------------------------- > The only List that specifically covers the whole of the Black Country. Run > by Black Country folk who were born and still live in the area. > ****************************** > ATTENTION TO ALL:- When replying please remove the details that do not > apply > to your mail and change the SUBJECT LINE for best useage of ARCHIVED > MATERIALS. > ------------------------------- > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > ENG-BLACK-COUNTRY-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without > the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > > ------------------------------------- > The only List that specifically covers the whole of the Black Country. Run > by Black Country folk who were born and still live in the area. > ****************************** > ATTENTION TO ALL:- When replying please remove the details that do not > apply to your mail and change the SUBJECT LINE for best useage of ARCHIVED > MATERIALS. > ------------------------------- > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > ENG-BLACK-COUNTRY-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without > the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > ------------------------------------- The only List that specifically covers the whole of the Black Country. Run by Black Country folk who were born and still live in the area. ****************************** ATTENTION TO ALL:- When replying please remove the details that do not apply to your mail and change the SUBJECT LINE for best useage of ARCHIVED MATERIALS. ------------------------------- ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to ENG-BLACK-COUNTRY-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message