Hi Nigel Thank you for your further input. I think that Richards will is a key document and am making enquiries at Worcester RO. Who knows there may also be a will for his father. Thanks again Peter Knott ----- Original Message ----- From: "Nigel Brown" <nigel-brown@blueyonder.co.uk> To: <eng-black-country@rootsweb.com> Sent: Thursday, July 07, 2011 11:58 AM Subject: Re: [Black Country] Richard SIVITER of Rowley Regis > Hello cousin Peter, > > I don't think I can add very much more. I came across the Siviters whilst > researching my Attwoods. I do know Siviters Lane well in Rowley village > and > I know Turners Hill - as a child in Cradley I used to listen to the > blasting > at the quarry at night. Most of my information on the Siviters is the > research of a Howard Siviter whom I have had no contact with for many > years. > > I do, that is, he does, have a record of the other 1747 Richard, baptised > 24 > March, son of John Siviter and Elizabeth Gilberts, nothing more on him. He > also has the 1740 Richard baptised 23 November 1740, married Judith > Parsons > 7 September 1760, 8 children: William, Rachel, Hannah, Thomas, Joseph (m. > Isabella Hartland), Samuel, Ann and Manuel. > > I have not verified any of this information from other sources. > > I hope this helps. > > Best wishes, > > Nigel (now in exile from the Black Country living in Wolverhampton) > > -----Original Message----- > From: Peter Knott > Sent: 07 July 2011 9:25 AM > To: eng-black-country@rootsweb.com > Subject: Re: [Black Country] Richard SIVITER of Rowley Regis > > Hello Nigel > > Apologies for the delay in reply. I have been going over all my facts > again > before responding. > > Yes - I have the Richard Siviter and Hannah Burton marriage which took > place > in 1773. I am a descendant of their daur Mary who married Joram Willetts. > I > make it that Richard & Hannah are my fourth great grandparents and that > you > and I must be distant cousins. > I think that in addition to the three children which you mentioned there > was > a fourth named Hannah and I imagine that the will which you mentioned > proves > that the RS who took his own life was the husband of Hannah (senior) and > father of the four children. However there was another RS baptised at > Rowley > in 1747 (with parents John & Elizabeth) and indeed yet another baptised in > 1740 having parents Benjamin & Jane. I had thought that earlier I had > found > relevant marriages for all three Richards and therefore they all survived > childhood but now on looking again I am able to find only two (one to our > Hannah Burton and the other to Judith Parsons). On the other hand I can > find > no burial record for a young Richard. > > Earlier I had tried to determine which Richard went on to marry Hannah B > and > later to commit suicide, but had given up. Probably the 1740 one can be > discounted being too early for someone who married in 1773 but it seems > that > two possible 1747 candidates remain and there is no apparent clue from > names > given to any of the children. Is there any firm evidence that our Richard > was the son of Daniel? Am I missing something? > > Anyway thank you cousin for your assistance. Your information about the > existence of a Richard will is particularly helpful. > > Kind Regards > > Peter Knott > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Nigel Brown" <nigel-brown@blueyonder.co.uk> > To: <eng-black-country@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Tuesday, July 05, 2011 6:37 PM > Subject: Re: [Black Country] Richard SIVITER of Rowley Regis > > >> Hi Peter, >> >> I think you will find that Richard Siviter (1747-1817) who committed > suicide >> by hanging himself was the son of Daniel S. and Susannah Bissell. Richard >> was married (I believe, but I don't have details) to Hannah Burton and > they >> had three children that I know of: Mary, William and Elizabeth. He was a >> farmer of Turners Hill, according to his will (Worcester record office). >> >> Richard was my 5 x great uncle, or to put it another way, his parents >> were >> my 6 x great grandparents and his sister Elizabeth and her husband >> William >> Attwood were my 5 x great grandparents. >> >> I hope this helps. >> >> Nigel Brown >> www.cradleylinks.co.uk >> >> -----Original Message-----From: Peter Knott >> Sent: 05 July 2011 5:08 PM >> To: eng-black-country@rootsweb.com >> Subject: [Black Country] Richard SIVITER of Rowley Regis >> >> I have discovered an entry in the Rowley Regis burial transcripts which >> reads 18 Feb 1817 Richard Siviter Tanners Hill, 73, Hanged himself, and > wish >> to determine more detail. Presumably there would have been an inquest - >> would I be correct in assuming that RR falls/fell within the jurisdiction > of >> the Walsall Coroner? Does anyone know whether Coroners Reports survive >> for >> this period and if so where they can be accessed please? Also what is the >> best newspaper to search for a report of any inquest which was held and >> where that search is best done. >> Am also keen to find out exactly which Richard Sivitor took his own life. >> Any help gratefully received >> Peter Knott > > ------------------------------------- > The only List that specifically covers the whole of the Black Country. Run > by Black Country folk who were born and still live in the area. > ****************************** > ATTENTION TO ALL:- When replying please remove the details that do not > apply to your mail and change the SUBJECT LINE for best useage of ARCHIVED > MATERIALS. > ------------------------------- > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > ENG-BLACK-COUNTRY-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without > the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >