Many thanks to everyone who took the time to respond to my earlier request, especially Velda who forwarded me a copy of the actual census return (which confirms the address as Ulet Hall). Apologies for the delay in replying, but I've been a little busy with other things. Whilst I recognise that "Howlett" and "Ulet" are phonetically similar, I do not believe they are the same place. My reasoning for this: 1. the 1881 census only lists 2 occupants of Ulet Hall, a farmer and his wife. I believe Howlett Hall is much bigger and would therefore have more residents; 2. my relatives were not rich and therefore could not have afforded such a large property and 3. whilst it is in the same area, they are still in the scale of things some distance apart. I've tried looking on old maps, but cannot find any reference. Have spent some time recently in the Alveley area and managed to solve other puzzles, this one will have to wait a bit longer until I can look at other records. Regards, Geoff > Maurice, Geoff, > > I've looked on an 1884 map of the area in more detail and I still think > "Utel" is "Howtel" due to the close proximity to the adjacent properties > named on the census sheet before and after the page you described. It is > still marked on the my 1999 OS map of the area and I can see it as a farm on > Google Maps satellite view. > > The Hall is not named in the enumerator's instruction sheets for their route > but the instructed routes for 1871,1881 and 1891 take them past the place. > > I used to live about 6 miles south of Alveley in North Kidderminster and > would have cycled through those lanes, probably last time was in 1965! I > recall the area but not the Hall. ( I now live 360 miles away in Scotland so > can't pop over.) > > Good luck, > > Lawrence > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: Maurice Sheppard [mailto:maurice@msheppard.com] > Sent: Monday, August 29, 2011 9:16 PM > To: lawrencelowe@yahoo.co.uk; eng-black-country@rootsweb.com > Subject: Re: [Black Country] 1881 Census Look up please > > > And it Lawrence is correct, it gets a mention here:- > > http://www.nationalarchives.gov.uk/a2a/records.aspx?cat=166-2074&cid=-1#-1 > > Regards, > > Maurice Sheppard at The LONGMORE Pages > http://www.msheppard.com > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "LawrenceLowe"<lawrencelowe@yahoo.co.uk> > To:<eng-black-country@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Monday, August 29, 2011 10:50 PM > Subject: Re: [Black Country] 1881 Census Look up please > > >> Geoff, >> >> My guess is that the "Ulet Hall" is actually "Howlet Hall". >> >> See old OS Map :- >> >> http://www.old-maps.co.uk/maps.html?txtXCoord=377642&txtYCoord=285053 >> >> If you walk the route of names on the census pages, Harts Green, Heath >> Farm >> and so on you will pass Howlet Hall, which bears a colloquial similarity >> to >> Ulet Hall.? >> >> Lawrence >> >> >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: eng-black-country-bounces@rootsweb.com >> [mailto:eng-black-country-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Geoff Allen >> Sent: Monday, August 29, 2011 7:57 PM >> To: eng-black-country@rootsweb.com >> Subject: [Black Country] 1881 Census Look up please >> >> >> Could someone please do a look-up for me. I'm trying to locate where one >> of my ancestors lived at the time of the 1881 census. The info on >> Familysearch shows their location as Ulet Hall, Alveley, Shropshire. I >> can't find this on any of the old maps, please could you confirm this >> has been transcribed correctly. The details are: >> >> RG11 2631/34 Page 7 >> >> The head of the family is William ROWLEY. >> >> Many thanks for your help. >> >> Regards, >> >> Geoff >>