Hi All The Staffs BMD has been updated with the following records .... Births: Replaced 3,000 for Audley, registers at Newcastle-Under-Lyme (1851-1862) to add mother's maiden name 1,501 for Eccleshall, registers at Stafford (1882-1892) 1,500 for Gnosall, registers at Stafford (1889-1902) 6,998 for Stafford, registers at Stafford (1881-1889) 1,500 for Stone, registers at Stafford (1878-1883) 7,502 for Trentham, registers at Stafford (1877-1892) 13,801 for Burton-on-Trent, registers at East Staffordshire (1948-1969) Deaths: a mixture of updates and additions 1,480 for Castle Church, registers at Stafford (1837-1857) 1,497 for Colwich, registers at Stafford (1850-1870) 1,000 for Eccleshall, registers at Stafford (1856-1866) 2,497 for Gnosall, registers at Stafford (1837-1866) 1,498 for Stone, registers at Stafford (1837-1845) 499 for Trentham, registers at Stafford (1854-1859) regards Bill ======================================================================== The Staffordshire BMD can be found at http://www.staffordshirebmd.org.uk and the West Midlands BMD at http://www.westmidlandsbmd.org.uk

Wow, Jean, that is wonderful. I'll be having a lot of fun today! Thank you so much. Best Wishes, Lois -----Original Message----- From: J langdell <jlangdell@supanet.com> To: ENG-BLACK-COUNTRY-L@rootsweb.com Sent: Wed, Jun 8, 2011 6:38 am Subject: Re: [Black Country] New Dock, Dudley Hello Lois, On google maps, type in Wellington Road, Dudley. The area to the left of Wellington Road was New Dock an area, to the right of Wellington Road was Old Dock area. If you go onto Dudley Archives web site at www.dudley.gov.co.uk/archives on the right hand side click Online Services, click on Historic Mapping, scroll down to Select A Street, type in Well, click Search, next page click on Wellington Road, Dudley then click Submit. You can play around to your heart's content by using different map years. Enjoy. Jean ----- Original Message ----- From: <maaisha@aol.com> To: <ENG-BLACK-COUNTRY-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Tuesday, June 07, 2011 11:24 PM Subject: [Black Country] New Dock, Dudley > Hi All, > I received a death certificate for an ancestor, stating that she died in > 1859 at New Dock, Dudley. I googled it and can see a street named Dock, > but otherwise it just looks like Dudley to me. Is New Dock a > neighborhood? A street? What does it mean? All help appreciated. > Lois in Michigan > > > > ------------------------------------- > The only List that specifically covers the whole of the Black Country. Run > by Black Country folk who were born and still live in the area. > ****************************** > ATTENTION TO ALL:- When replying please remove the details that do not > apply to your mail and change the SUBJECT LINE for best useage of ARCHIVED > MATERIALS. > ------------------------------- > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > ENG-BLACK-COUNTRY-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without > the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > ------------------------------------- The only List that specifically covers the whole of the Black Country. Run by Black Country folk who were born and still live in the area. ****************************** ATTENTION TO ALL:- When replying please remove the details that do not apply to your mail and change the SUBJECT LINE for best useage of ARCHIVED MATERIALS. ------------------------------- ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to ENG-BLACK-COUNTRY-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

It would be interesting to hear how you go on in your quest. Jan -----Original Message----- From: cassy franklin Sent: Tuesday, June 07, 2011 8:11 PM To: eng-black-country@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [Black Country] cHURCH ADOPTIONS Hi Jan Thanks for this Cheers Cassy ----- Original Message ----- From: "Jan Rockett" <jan.rockett@ntlworld.com> To: <eng-black-country@rootsweb.com> Sent: Tuesday, June 07, 2011 5:50 PM Subject: Re: [Black Country] cHURCH ADOPTIONS There is an Isabel C Anderson showing as a match on Scotlands People as born 1928. http://www.scotlandspeople.gov.uk/ It costs £7 for 30 credits and this will be 1 credit. I hope this helps. If I had any credits I would do it for you but I don't, sorry. Jan -----Original Message----- From: cassy franklin Sent: Tuesday, June 07, 2011 5:02 PM To: eng-black-country@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [Black Country] cHURCH ADOPTIONS Hi Jan Her birth name was Isabel Clark Anderson and her adopted name was Isabel C Moffitt (not sure of the spelling on that ) She was born 20 December 1928 around the Lanark area of Scotland I do know we tried to get a birth cert when she died but we could not get one , they wanted us to go all the way to Scotland and check there records We do know that her birth parents where not marriaged at the time of her birth but later marriaged Cheers Cassy ----- Original Message ----- From: "Jan Rockett" <jan.rockett@ntlworld.com> To: <eng-black-country@rootsweb.com> Sent: Tuesday, June 07, 2011 4:36 PM Subject: Re: [Black Country] cHURCH ADOPTIONS > Cassy, > Would you be able to give us her birth name, and parents if you know > them?? > It would enable us to search for her birth and help you. > > Jan > > -----Original Message----- > From: cassy franklin > Sent: Tuesday, June 07, 2011 4:21 PM > To: eng-black-country@rootsweb.com > Subject: Re: [Black Country] cHURCH ADOPTIONS > > Hi Trevor > Thanks for this , > The adoption was in Scotland , and for my foster mum , we have the > apoption > papers dated 1934 , but we know she was taken from the church home when > she was nearly two, so about 1930 , her birth parents tried to get her > back and it went to court > but her apopted parents won > We have never tried to do her birth parents family tree , but when she > died three years ago , we decided > to do it , but so far we have been ubable to get her birth cert either > for > either her birth or the one in her adopted > parents name , > We do know her birth name and adopted name , but we cant seen to get > either > , have phoned and emailed and tried to check Scotish > but no luck and her adoption papers dont say much > Thanks for your help > Cheers > Cassy > Subject: Re: [Black Country] cHURCH ADOPTIONS > > >> Hi Cassy, >> >> Adoptions go way back to Roman times but according to >> http://etheses.dur.ac.uk/64/1/Total_Thesis.pdf >> "Orphaned or deserted children came under the control of the Poor Law >> system >> which dated back to the sixteenth century.98" . Chapter 3.1 Twentieth >> Century Adoption History mentions the Adoption Act 1926 which legitimised >> what had been a private, informal agreement between the parties. >> >> From >> http://www.bbc.co.uk/history/familyhistory/next_steps/adv_12_family_01.shtml >> : It was only in 1927 that official certification for adoptions was first >> introduced in England and Wales, and thereafter in other parts of the UK, >> with certificates showing the date of adoption, the name of the child >> adopted and the name and address of the adoptive parents. >> ------------------------------------- The only List that specifically covers the whole of the Black Country. Run by Black Country folk who were born and still live in the area. ****************************** ATTENTION TO ALL:- When replying please remove the details that do not apply to your mail and change the SUBJECT LINE for best useage of ARCHIVED MATERIALS. ------------------------------- ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to ENG-BLACK-COUNTRY-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ------------------------------------- The only List that specifically covers the whole of the Black Country. 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Hi Jan Thanks for this Cheers Cassy ----- Original Message ----- From: "Jan Rockett" <jan.rockett@ntlworld.com> To: <eng-black-country@rootsweb.com> Sent: Tuesday, June 07, 2011 5:50 PM Subject: Re: [Black Country] cHURCH ADOPTIONS There is an Isabel C Anderson showing as a match on Scotlands People as born 1928. http://www.scotlandspeople.gov.uk/ It costs £7 for 30 credits and this will be 1 credit. I hope this helps. If I had any credits I would do it for you but I don't, sorry. Jan -----Original Message----- From: cassy franklin Sent: Tuesday, June 07, 2011 5:02 PM To: eng-black-country@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [Black Country] cHURCH ADOPTIONS Hi Jan Her birth name was Isabel Clark Anderson and her adopted name was Isabel C Moffitt (not sure of the spelling on that ) She was born 20 December 1928 around the Lanark area of Scotland I do know we tried to get a birth cert when she died but we could not get one , they wanted us to go all the way to Scotland and check there records We do know that her birth parents where not marriaged at the time of her birth but later marriaged Cheers Cassy ----- Original Message ----- From: "Jan Rockett" <jan.rockett@ntlworld.com> To: <eng-black-country@rootsweb.com> Sent: Tuesday, June 07, 2011 4:36 PM Subject: Re: [Black Country] cHURCH ADOPTIONS > Cassy, > Would you be able to give us her birth name, and parents if you know > them?? > It would enable us to search for her birth and help you. > > Jan > > -----Original Message----- > From: cassy franklin > Sent: Tuesday, June 07, 2011 4:21 PM > To: eng-black-country@rootsweb.com > Subject: Re: [Black Country] cHURCH ADOPTIONS > > Hi Trevor > Thanks for this , > The adoption was in Scotland , and for my foster mum , we have the > apoption > papers dated 1934 , but we know she was taken from the church home when > she was nearly two, so about 1930 , her birth parents tried to get her > back and it went to court > but her apopted parents won > We have never tried to do her birth parents family tree , but when she > died three years ago , we decided > to do it , but so far we have been ubable to get her birth cert either > for > either her birth or the one in her adopted > parents name , > We do know her birth name and adopted name , but we cant seen to get > either > , have phoned and emailed and tried to check Scotish > but no luck and her adoption papers dont say much > Thanks for your help > Cheers > Cassy > Subject: Re: [Black Country] cHURCH ADOPTIONS > > >> Hi Cassy, >> >> Adoptions go way back to Roman times but according to >> http://etheses.dur.ac.uk/64/1/Total_Thesis.pdf >> "Orphaned or deserted children came under the control of the Poor Law >> system >> which dated back to the sixteenth century.98" . Chapter 3.1 Twentieth >> Century Adoption History mentions the Adoption Act 1926 which legitimised >> what had been a private, informal agreement between the parties. >> >> From >> http://www.bbc.co.uk/history/familyhistory/next_steps/adv_12_family_01.shtml >> : It was only in 1927 that official certification for adoptions was first >> introduced in England and Wales, and thereafter in other parts of the UK, >> with certificates showing the date of adoption, the name of the child >> adopted and the name and address of the adoptive parents. >> ------------------------------------- The only List that specifically covers the whole of the Black Country. Run by Black Country folk who were born and still live in the area. ****************************** ATTENTION TO ALL:- When replying please remove the details that do not apply to your mail and change the SUBJECT LINE for best useage of ARCHIVED MATERIALS. ------------------------------- ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to ENG-BLACK-COUNTRY-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ------------------------------------- The only List that specifically covers the whole of the Black Country. Run by Black Country folk who were born and still live in the area. ****************************** ATTENTION TO ALL:- When replying please remove the details that do not apply to your mail and change the SUBJECT LINE for best useage of ARCHIVED MATERIALS. ------------------------------- ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to ENG-BLACK-COUNTRY-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Hi All, I received a death certificate for an ancestor, stating that she died in 1859 at New Dock, Dudley. I googled it and can see a street named Dock, but otherwise it just looks like Dudley to me. Is New Dock a neighborhood? A street? What does it mean? All help appreciated. Lois in Michigan

There is an Isabel C Anderson showing as a match on Scotlands People as born 1928. http://www.scotlandspeople.gov.uk/ It costs £7 for 30 credits and this will be 1 credit. I hope this helps. If I had any credits I would do it for you but I don't, sorry. Jan -----Original Message----- From: cassy franklin Sent: Tuesday, June 07, 2011 5:02 PM To: eng-black-country@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [Black Country] cHURCH ADOPTIONS Hi Jan Her birth name was Isabel Clark Anderson and her adopted name was Isabel C Moffitt (not sure of the spelling on that ) She was born 20 December 1928 around the Lanark area of Scotland I do know we tried to get a birth cert when she died but we could not get one , they wanted us to go all the way to Scotland and check there records We do know that her birth parents where not marriaged at the time of her birth but later marriaged Cheers Cassy ----- Original Message ----- From: "Jan Rockett" <jan.rockett@ntlworld.com> To: <eng-black-country@rootsweb.com> Sent: Tuesday, June 07, 2011 4:36 PM Subject: Re: [Black Country] cHURCH ADOPTIONS > Cassy, > Would you be able to give us her birth name, and parents if you know > them?? > It would enable us to search for her birth and help you. > > Jan > > -----Original Message----- > From: cassy franklin > Sent: Tuesday, June 07, 2011 4:21 PM > To: eng-black-country@rootsweb.com > Subject: Re: [Black Country] cHURCH ADOPTIONS > > Hi Trevor > Thanks for this , > The adoption was in Scotland , and for my foster mum , we have the > apoption > papers dated 1934 , but we know she was taken from the church home when > she was nearly two, so about 1930 , her birth parents tried to get her > back and it went to court > but her apopted parents won > We have never tried to do her birth parents family tree , but when she > died three years ago , we decided > to do it , but so far we have been ubable to get her birth cert either > for > either her birth or the one in her adopted > parents name , > We do know her birth name and adopted name , but we cant seen to get > either > , have phoned and emailed and tried to check Scotish > but no luck and her adoption papers dont say much > Thanks for your help > Cheers > Cassy > Subject: Re: [Black Country] cHURCH ADOPTIONS > > >> Hi Cassy, >> >> Adoptions go way back to Roman times but according to >> http://etheses.dur.ac.uk/64/1/Total_Thesis.pdf >> "Orphaned or deserted children came under the control of the Poor Law >> system >> which dated back to the sixteenth century.98" . Chapter 3.1 Twentieth >> Century Adoption History mentions the Adoption Act 1926 which legitimised >> what had been a private, informal agreement between the parties. >> >> From >> http://www.bbc.co.uk/history/familyhistory/next_steps/adv_12_family_01.shtml >> : It was only in 1927 that official certification for adoptions was first >> introduced in England and Wales, and thereafter in other parts of the UK, >> with certificates showing the date of adoption, the name of the child >> adopted and the name and address of the adoptive parents. >> ------------------------------------- The only List that specifically covers the whole of the Black Country. Run by Black Country folk who were born and still live in the area. ****************************** ATTENTION TO ALL:- When replying please remove the details that do not apply to your mail and change the SUBJECT LINE for best useage of ARCHIVED MATERIALS. ------------------------------- ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to ENG-BLACK-COUNTRY-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Hi All Have just made contact with a new cousin who lives in Aus , and are related throw our Cash and Pitt families The Pitt family going back to about the 1500s in Segley and Gornal with different banches joining on and most of them to me where very poor But Sue has sent me this , the lings dont work but I am curiuus about it , can any one expain it or have any info on it Cheers Cassy ----- Today, when I suppose to be working, I googled John & Walter Button and found these on these sites.. http://www.archive.org/stream/newcollectionsforhi03stafuoft/newcollectionsforhi03stafuoft_djvu.txt At fifteen days from the day of Holy Trinity. 8 James I. Between William Bache and Thomas Bache, complainants, and John Button and Walter Button, son and heir apparent of the said John, defor- ciants of 40 acres of land, 3 acres of meadow, and 20 acres of pasture in Over- pen and Netherpen. John and Walter remitted all right to William and Thomas and to the heirs of Thomas, for which Wiiliam and Thomas gave them 80. Why would John & Walter Button remit all rights??? And this... http://www.ancestordocs.co.uk/Staffordshire.htm also here http://blackcountryhistory.org/collections/search/?q=penn&cb_page=70 168/2 Over Penn - 1666 - Exchange of lands between Elizabeth & John Button (Over Penn) and Elizabeth & William Bradney (Finchfield, Penn). Full details of lands including landowners / occupiers mentioned incl. Thomas & William Bach, Thomas Chamberlin, Walter Grosvenor, Mrs Hope, William Noake, William Swayne, Edward, John & Walter Raban. Sheet parchment with decorative initial letter signed by John Button with 'mark' of Elizabeth Button, with 2 seal tags, small portion of 1seal remaining. Witnessed on reverse by William Daulton, with 'marks' of Walter Button & John Toping. £150 I'm not keen on paying the 150 pounds to see the record, tho part of me really wants too.... I think John Button was a Church Warden at Penn and must have been doing well to have land to exchange.. interesting the file you sent has Sarah Bradley/Bradney marrying Walter Button son of John & Elizabeth, I wondered if Elizabeth & William Bradney were Sarah Bradley/Bradney's parents, could it be some kind of marriage agreement.. exchange of land for marriage. I haven't any exposure to wills or sales of land, so I'm abit lost with the above entries... if I went ahead and purchased the above would it tell us anymore. I haven't had any luck finding a will for the Buttons. Cheers Sue ----------------------------------------------------------------------------

Hi Jan Her birth name was Isabel Clark Anderson and her adopted name was Isabel C Moffitt (not sure of the spelling on that ) She was born 20 December 1928 around the Lanark area of Scotland I do know we tried to get a birth cert when she died but we could not get one , they wanted us to go all the way to Scotland and check there records We do know that her birth parents where not marriaged at the time of her birth but later marriaged Cheers Cassy ----- Original Message ----- From: "Jan Rockett" <jan.rockett@ntlworld.com> To: <eng-black-country@rootsweb.com> Sent: Tuesday, June 07, 2011 4:36 PM Subject: Re: [Black Country] cHURCH ADOPTIONS > Cassy, > Would you be able to give us her birth name, and parents if you know > them?? > It would enable us to search for her birth and help you. > > Jan > > -----Original Message----- > From: cassy franklin > Sent: Tuesday, June 07, 2011 4:21 PM > To: eng-black-country@rootsweb.com > Subject: Re: [Black Country] cHURCH ADOPTIONS > > Hi Trevor > Thanks for this , > The adoption was in Scotland , and for my foster mum , we have the > apoption > papers dated 1934 , but we know she was taken from the church home when > she was nearly two, so about 1930 , her birth parents tried to get her > back and it went to court > but her apopted parents won > We have never tried to do her birth parents family tree , but when she > died three years ago , we decided > to do it , but so far we have been ubable to get her birth cert either > for > either her birth or the one in her adopted > parents name , > We do know her birth name and adopted name , but we cant seen to get > either > , have phoned and emailed and tried to check Scotish > but no luck and her adoption papers dont say much > Thanks for your help > Cheers > Cassy > Subject: Re: [Black Country] cHURCH ADOPTIONS > > >> Hi Cassy, >> >> Adoptions go way back to Roman times but according to >> http://etheses.dur.ac.uk/64/1/Total_Thesis.pdf >> "Orphaned or deserted children came under the control of the Poor Law >> system >> which dated back to the sixteenth century.98" . Chapter 3.1 Twentieth >> Century Adoption History mentions the Adoption Act 1926 which legitimised >> what had been a private, informal agreement between the parties. >> >> From >> http://www.bbc.co.uk/history/familyhistory/next_steps/adv_12_family_01.shtml >> : It was only in 1927 that official certification for adoptions was first >> introduced in England and Wales, and thereafter in other parts of the UK, >> with certificates showing the date of adoption, the name of the child >> adopted and the name and address of the adoptive parents. >>

Cassy, Would you be able to give us her birth name, and parents if you know them?? It would enable us to search for her birth and help you. Jan -----Original Message----- From: cassy franklin Sent: Tuesday, June 07, 2011 4:21 PM To: eng-black-country@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [Black Country] cHURCH ADOPTIONS Hi Trevor Thanks for this , The adoption was in Scotland , and for my foster mum , we have the apoption papers dated 1934 , but we know she was taken from the church home when she was nearly two, so about 1930 , her birth parents tried to get her back and it went to court but her apopted parents won We have never tried to do her birth parents family tree , but when she died three years ago , we decided to do it , but so far we have been ubable to get her birth cert either for either her birth or the one in her adopted parents name , We do know her birth name and adopted name , but we cant seen to get either , have phoned and emailed and tried to check Scotish but no luck and her adoption papers dont say much Thanks for your help Cheers Cassy ----- Original Message ----- From: "Trevor White" <blancoblue@blueyonder.co.uk> To: <eng-black-country@rootsweb.com> Sent: Tuesday, June 07, 2011 2:16 PM Subject: Re: [Black Country] cHURCH ADOPTIONS > Hi Cassy, > > Adoptions go way back to Roman times but according to > http://etheses.dur.ac.uk/64/1/Total_Thesis.pdf > "Orphaned or deserted children came under the control of the Poor Law > system > which dated back to the sixteenth century.98" . Chapter 3.1 Twentieth > Century Adoption History mentions the Adoption Act 1926 which legitimised > what had been a private, informal agreement between the parties. > > From > http://www.bbc.co.uk/history/familyhistory/next_steps/adv_12_family_01.shtml > : It was only in 1927 that official certification for adoptions was first > introduced in England and Wales, and thereafter in other parts of the UK, > with certificates showing the date of adoption, the name of the child > adopted and the name and address of the adoptive parents. > > So you weren't far off the mark. > > Trev > > -----Original Message----- > From: eng-black-country-bounces@rootsweb.com > [mailto:eng-black-country-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of cassy > franklin > Sent: 30 May 2011 5:41 PM > To: eng-black-country@rootsweb.com > Subject: [Black Country] cHURCH ADOPTIONS > > Hi All > Does anyone know any thing about church adoptions for the 1930s and 1970s > I > have been asked about this and I have no idea's I dont think adoptions > became legal till about 1932 , I know the person involed was left at the > church home in 1928 and went to live with there adopted parents in 1930 > but > was not legally adopted till 1934 has was have the paper work to the > adoption I have tried to look on the internet has I know which area the > adoptions took place but cant find anything Cheers Cassy List Griffiths > List Admin B.C, Wolverhampton and Potteries > > ------------------------------------- > The only List that specifically covers the whole of the Black Country. Run > by Black Country folk who were born and still live in the area. > ****************************** > ATTENTION TO ALL:- When replying please remove the details that do not > apply > to your mail and change the SUBJECT LINE for best useage of ARCHIVED > MATERIALS. > ------------------------------- > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > ENG-BLACK-COUNTRY-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without > the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > ------------------------------------- > The only List that specifically covers the whole of the Black Country. Run > by Black Country folk who were born and still live in the area. > ****************************** > ATTENTION TO ALL:- When replying please remove the details that do not > apply to your mail and change the SUBJECT LINE for best useage of ARCHIVED > MATERIALS. > ------------------------------- > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > ENG-BLACK-COUNTRY-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without > the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ------------------------------------- The only List that specifically covers the whole of the Black Country. Run by Black Country folk who were born and still live in the area. ****************************** ATTENTION TO ALL:- When replying please remove the details that do not apply to your mail and change the SUBJECT LINE for best useage of ARCHIVED MATERIALS. ------------------------------- ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to ENG-BLACK-COUNTRY-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Hi Trevor Thanks for this , The adoption was in Scotland , and for my foster mum , we have the apoption papers dated 1934 , but we know she was taken from the church home when she was nearly two, so about 1930 , her birth parents tried to get her back and it went to court but her apopted parents won We have never tried to do her birth parents family tree , but when she died three years ago , we decided to do it , but so far we have been ubable to get her birth cert either for either her birth or the one in her adopted parents name , We do know her birth name and adopted name , but we cant seen to get either , have phoned and emailed and tried to check Scotish but no luck and her adoption papers dont say much Thanks for your help Cheers Cassy ----- Original Message ----- From: "Trevor White" <blancoblue@blueyonder.co.uk> To: <eng-black-country@rootsweb.com> Sent: Tuesday, June 07, 2011 2:16 PM Subject: Re: [Black Country] cHURCH ADOPTIONS > Hi Cassy, > > Adoptions go way back to Roman times but according to > http://etheses.dur.ac.uk/64/1/Total_Thesis.pdf > "Orphaned or deserted children came under the control of the Poor Law > system > which dated back to the sixteenth century.98" . Chapter 3.1 Twentieth > Century Adoption History mentions the Adoption Act 1926 which legitimised > what had been a private, informal agreement between the parties. > > From > http://www.bbc.co.uk/history/familyhistory/next_steps/adv_12_family_01.shtml > : It was only in 1927 that official certification for adoptions was first > introduced in England and Wales, and thereafter in other parts of the UK, > with certificates showing the date of adoption, the name of the child > adopted and the name and address of the adoptive parents. > > So you weren't far off the mark. > > Trev > > -----Original Message----- > From: eng-black-country-bounces@rootsweb.com > [mailto:eng-black-country-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of cassy > franklin > Sent: 30 May 2011 5:41 PM > To: eng-black-country@rootsweb.com > Subject: [Black Country] cHURCH ADOPTIONS > > Hi All > Does anyone know any thing about church adoptions for the 1930s and 1970s > I > have been asked about this and I have no idea's I dont think adoptions > became legal till about 1932 , I know the person involed was left at the > church home in 1928 and went to live with there adopted parents in 1930 > but > was not legally adopted till 1934 has was have the paper work to the > adoption I have tried to look on the internet has I know which area the > adoptions took place but cant find anything Cheers Cassy List Griffiths > List Admin B.C, Wolverhampton and Potteries > > ------------------------------------- > The only List that specifically covers the whole of the Black Country. Run > by Black Country folk who were born and still live in the area. > ****************************** > ATTENTION TO ALL:- When replying please remove the details that do not > apply > to your mail and change the SUBJECT LINE for best useage of ARCHIVED > MATERIALS. > ------------------------------- > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > ENG-BLACK-COUNTRY-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without > the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > ------------------------------------- > The only List that specifically covers the whole of the Black Country. Run > by Black Country folk who were born and still live in the area. > ****************************** > ATTENTION TO ALL:- When replying please remove the details that do not > apply to your mail and change the SUBJECT LINE for best useage of ARCHIVED > MATERIALS. > ------------------------------- > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > ENG-BLACK-COUNTRY-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without > the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Hi Cassy, Adoptions go way back to Roman times but according to http://etheses.dur.ac.uk/64/1/Total_Thesis.pdf "Orphaned or deserted children came under the control of the Poor Law system which dated back to the sixteenth century.98" . Chapter 3.1 Twentieth Century Adoption History mentions the Adoption Act 1926 which legitimised what had been a private, informal agreement between the parties. From http://www.bbc.co.uk/history/familyhistory/next_steps/adv_12_family_01.shtml : It was only in 1927 that official certification for adoptions was first introduced in England and Wales, and thereafter in other parts of the UK, with certificates showing the date of adoption, the name of the child adopted and the name and address of the adoptive parents. So you weren't far off the mark. Trev -----Original Message----- From: eng-black-country-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:eng-black-country-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of cassy franklin Sent: 30 May 2011 5:41 PM To: eng-black-country@rootsweb.com Subject: [Black Country] cHURCH ADOPTIONS Hi All Does anyone know any thing about church adoptions for the 1930s and 1970s I have been asked about this and I have no idea's I dont think adoptions became legal till about 1932 , I know the person involed was left at the church home in 1928 and went to live with there adopted parents in 1930 but was not legally adopted till 1934 has was have the paper work to the adoption I have tried to look on the internet has I know which area the adoptions took place but cant find anything Cheers Cassy List Griffiths List Admin B.C, Wolverhampton and Potteries ------------------------------------- The only List that specifically covers the whole of the Black Country. Run by Black Country folk who were born and still live in the area. ****************************** ATTENTION TO ALL:- When replying please remove the details that do not apply to your mail and change the SUBJECT LINE for best useage of ARCHIVED MATERIALS. ------------------------------- ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to ENG-BLACK-COUNTRY-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Hi Graham, My apologies for the delay in answering your query in regard to Mary SKELDING. According to earlier information that I have in regard to the SKELDING tree that I obtained from another researcher who has done significant research on this family a Thomas SKELDING was born in 1826 in Amblecote, Staffordshire - he married Sarah Ann ALCOCK in 1759 in Stourbridge, Worcestershire, England and he died before 1891. His occupation is shown as miner on 6 June 1841 at Delph Road, Brierley Hill. On 31 March 1851 he was an Iron Stone miner in Delph Road, Brierley. On 7 Apr 1861 he was a Coal Miner in Delph Road, Brierley Hill. On 2 Mar 1871 he was at 86 Delph Road, Brierley Hill. On 3 April 1881 he was a Charter Master at 86 86 Delph Road, Brierley Hill. Further info obtained from the same source shows there children as Edward SKELDING - born Jul 1860 in Delph Road, Brierley Hill Phoebe - born 1863 (she married Henry HOLDER Mary SKELDING - born 1865. Dianah SKELDING - born 1867 Thomas SKELDING - born 1870 Benjamin SKELDING - born 1874. I have not done further research on the above at this point in time but do know that some of this data is shown in the IGI. Please let me know if you would like any further info on any of the above. Kind regards, Kerry from Queensland, Australia ----- Original Message ----- From: <eng-black-country-request@rootsweb.com> To: <eng-black-country@rootsweb.com> Sent: Sunday, May 29, 2011 5:00 PM Subject: ENG-BLACK-COUNTRY Digest, Vol 6, Issue 112 > > > Today's Topics: > > 1. Re: Mary SKELDING. (Graham Skelding) > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > Message: 1 > Date: Sat, 28 May 2011 14:48:23 +0100 > From: "Graham Skelding" <grahamskelding@woodhamgrange.plus.com> > Subject: Re: [Black Country] Mary SKELDING. > To: <eng-black-country@rootsweb.com> > Message-ID: <92D5834892A34B2B91CFE23410C22A85@SkeldingPC> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" > > Mary SKELDING [c.12 March 1809 at Brierley Hill, Staffs] was the dau. of > Thomas SKELDING & Nancy STEVENS [m.26 May 1795 at Kingswinford, Staffs]. > Mary SKELDING m. William SIMPSON on 19 May 1831 at St George?s, > Birmingham. > > She had one brother James [c.21 Feb 1796 & d. 1 March 1796]. > > She had four sisters:- > Phoebe [c.25 May 1798 & m. John TONGUE on 5 Feb 1817 at St Phillips, > Birmingham]. > > Diana [c.25 Dec 1800 & m. Charles ATTWOOD on 4 Dec 1822 at Kingswinford]. > > Harriet [c.25 Sept 1803 & m. Henry TONGUE on 30 Dec 1829 at St Phillips]. > > Caroline [c.10 Nov 1811 & m. Alfred TAYLOR on 22 Sept 1836 at St Mary?s, > Handsworth, Staffs]. > > I am trying to trace the GRANDFATHER of Mary SKELDING. I believe that he > was another Thomas SKELDING whose wife was Mary ? Do you have any data > about him? > > Regards Graham SKELDING. > > > > ------------------------------ > > To contact the ENG-BLACK-COUNTRY list administrator, send an email to > ENG-BLACK-COUNTRY-admin@rootsweb.com. > > To post a message to the ENG-BLACK-COUNTRY mailing list, send an email to > ENG-BLACK-COUNTRY@rootsweb.com. > > __________________________________________________________ > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > ENG-BLACK-COUNTRY-request@rootsweb.com > with the word "unsubscribe" without the quotes in the subject and the body > of the > email with no additional text. > > > End of ENG-BLACK-COUNTRY Digest, Vol 6, Issue 112 > *************************************************

Hi Peter Dudley covers a few local areas, ie, Rowley Regis, Tipton etc. If you look for her on West Midlands BMD - it will give you the local areas. Might not be so many to choose from. http://www.westmidlandsbmd.org.uk/ Maggie ======================================== Message Received: Jun 06 2011, 10:37 AM From: "Peter Knott" To: eng-black-country@rootsweb.com Cc: Subject: [Black Country] Mary SMITH nee RICHARDS of Mousesweet Brook Hi Listers Mary Richards married Benjamin Smith at St Thomas Dudley in 1809. Ben died in 1838 but Mary appears to have survived through 1841 to 1851 when she appears at Mousesweet Brook. I have not been able to find her in 1861 and am therefore seeking her death or burial between 51 and 61. Unfortunately age at death does not appear on the BMD index prior to 1912 and there are more that 20 Mary Smiths listed in Dudley RD between 51 and 61. An alternative approach would be to first find her burial. I strongly suspect that this took place at St Giles Rowley Regis but although this parish is well indexed I do not know of anything available for the 1850s. Can anyone suggest a different approach please? Alternatively does any lister have Mary in their tree or know of a suitable burial index enabling me to identify the death/burial of the 'correct' Mary Smith? Peter Knott ------------------------------------- The only List that specifically covers the whole of the Black Country. Run by Black Country folk who were born and still live in the area. ****************************** ATTENTION TO ALL:- When replying please remove the details that do not apply to your mail and change the SUBJECT LINE for best useage of ARCHIVED MATERIALS. ------------------------------- ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to ENG-BLACK-COUNTRY-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message http://thesaltfamily.tribalpages.com/ www.familytrails.net Researching : SALT, BARKLAM/BARTLAM, LOWE, JONES, RILEY, DEAN, SAUNDERS, BURBRIDGE, BURNS, BROWN, FOSTER, HUMPHRIES, STACKHOUSE, SCANLON, SHIRLEY, WEAVER, BENNETT

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Hi Listers Mary Richards married Benjamin Smith at St Thomas Dudley in 1809. Ben died in 1838 but Mary appears to have survived through 1841 to 1851 when she appears at Mousesweet Brook. I have not been able to find her in 1861 and am therefore seeking her death or burial between 51 and 61. Unfortunately age at death does not appear on the BMD index prior to 1912 and there are more that 20 Mary Smiths listed in Dudley RD between 51 and 61. An alternative approach would be to first find her burial. I strongly suspect that this took place at St Giles Rowley Regis but although this parish is well indexed I do not know of anything available for the 1850s. Can anyone suggest a different approach please? Alternatively does any lister have Mary in their tree or know of a suitable burial index enabling me to identify the death/burial of the 'correct' Mary Smith? Peter Knott

Hi All Can anyone help with this please I am trying to find the birth of Joseph Cash , cant find any records at all on him He married Sarah Pitt at St Thomas Dudley in 1790, Sarah Pitt was born Cotswell End in 1762 so I think he was born roughly the same time has her All there children where christened at St Thomas Dudley , There seems to be a couple of other Cash family's having children around the same time , so I wonder i f these might be his brothers , but I cant seem to find any christening for these either , I have tried different area's but no luck Can any one help please Cheers Cassy Cassy List Griffiths List Admin B.C, Wolverhampton and Potteries

Hi All Does anyone know any thing about church adoptions for the 1930s and 1970s I have been asked about this and I have no idea's I dont think adoptions became legal till about 1932 , I know the person involed was left at the church home in 1928 and went to live with there adopted parents in 1930 but was not legally adopted till 1934 has was have the paper work to the adoption I have tried to look on the internet has I know which area the adoptions took place but cant find anything Cheers Cassy List Griffiths List Admin B.C, Wolverhampton and Potteries

Hi Bill If you know who Harriett SKELDING's parents were or the date of her birth/christening, I could possibly help you. I have many Harriet SKELDINGs in various individual SKELDING family trees for this period. Regards Graham Skelding -----Original Message----- From: William Longmore Sent: Sunday, May 22, 2011 4:39 PM To: eng-black-country@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [Black Country] Ref: SKELDING surname Hi Kerry, I have not been able to research Skelding as yet. I have Harriet Skelding married to William Capewell in Stourbridge. Their daughter (my grandmother) was born 1887. I am sorry I can't help you further Talk to you soon, Bill ----- Original Message ----- From: <kab635@tadaust.org.au> To: <eng-black-country@rootsweb.com> Sent: Sunday, May 22, 2011 5:36 AM Subject: [Black Country] Ref: SKELDING surname > On checking emails - Hi David and Bill, > I have a Mary SKELDING, daughter of Nancy STEVENS and Thomas SKELDING who > was born abt 1809. She married a William SIMPSON. > Was wondering if she appeared in your tree. > Kind regards, Kerry > ----- Original Message ----- > From: <eng-black-country-request@rootsweb.com> > To: <eng-black-country@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Monday, February 21, 2011 2:02 AM > Subject: ENG-BLACK-COUNTRY Digest, Vol 6, Issue 37 > > >> >> >> Today's Topics: >> >> 1. Roll Call George RushburyHickman , Jukes , Rich all Dudley >> /Tipton Sandersmaybe Gill can't find a marriage (Olwyn Sherwin) >> 2. Roll call: SURNAMES: MADDOCKS, MALE, ELWELL, BEDALE, RAY, >> (Louise De-Hayes) >> 3. Re: Roll call MOBBERLEY, NEALE, WALTHO, RUSHTON, FOLEY, >> ROUND, SKELDING, SCRIVEN, LANE, ROLLINSON, SYNOR, SURNAME >> (cassy franklin) >> 4. Roll Call: WILLETTS, WEAVER, HUBBLE, POTTER, PRIEST, ROUND, >> BRIGHT (Peter Willetts) >> 5. Re: Roll Call (maaisha@aol.com) >> 6. Re: Roll call MOBBERLEY, NEALE, WALTHO, RUSHTON, FOLEY, >> ROUND, SKELDING, SCRIVEN, LANE, ROLLINSON, SYNOR, SURNAME >> (William Longmore) >> 7. Re: Roll call MOBBERLEY, NEALE, WALTHO, RUSHTON, FOLEY, >> ROUND, SKELDING, SCRIVEN, LANE, ROLLINSON, SYNOR, SURNAME (J >> langdell) >> 8. Roll call (Ed Elks) >> 9. RICHARDS 1881 CENSUS (cassy franklin) >> 10. Re: RICHARDS 1881 CENSUS (Maurice Sheppard) >> >> >> ---------------------------------------------------------------------- >> >> Message: 1 >> Date: Sun, 20 Feb 2011 21:12:49 +1300 >> From: "Olwyn Sherwin" <osherwin@xtra.co.nz> >> Subject: [Black Country] Roll Call George RushburyHickman , Jukes , >> Rich all Dudley /Tipton Sandersmaybe Gill can't find a marriage >> To: <eng-black-country@rootsweb.com> >> Message-ID: <21E8C55178834DFE87029C0E8E17E4BD@Sherwins> >> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" >> >> Hi Listers, >> researching Hickman ,sanders maybe gill probably married about 1858/60 >> doesn't appear to be any record for that name though there is Elizabeth >> Gill and Geo Rushbury Hickman 1858 >> Rich and Jukes also Dudley and Tipton >> Many thanks Olwyn >> >> ------------------------------ >> >> Message: 2 >> Date: Sun, 20 Feb 2011 10:03:57 -0000 >> From: "Louise De-Hayes" <louhughes@blueyonder.co.uk> >> Subject: [Black Country] Roll call: SURNAMES: MADDOCKS, MALE, ELWELL, >> BEDALE, RAY, >> To: <eng-black-country@rootsweb.com> >> Message-ID: <0A5602B6C0D64CF286FB7419F403CF74@LouPC> >> Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; >> reply-type=original >> >> Hi All, >> >> The above are the key names I am researching in the Black Country. Any >> connections? Some of the names appeared in Wolverhampton and Stourbridge >> also. >> >> Louise >> >> >> >> >> ------------------------------ >> >> Message: 3 >> Date: Sun, 20 Feb 2011 11:51:16 -0000 >> From: "cassy franklin" <cassyfranklin@sky.com> >> Subject: Re: [Black Country] Roll call MOBBERLEY, NEALE, WALTHO, >> RUSHTON, FOLEY, ROUND, SKELDING, SCRIVEN, LANE, ROLLINSON, SYNOR, >> SURNAME >> To: <eng-black-country@rootsweb.com> >> Message-ID: <C00A8D579AFA4755884EADCA0FD557A2@asdf0bfe5c449f> >> Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; >> reply-type=original >> >> Hi David >> nice to hear from you >> I wish you could , I do know that my Thomas Round >> sister Ann who married a Plant or Lilley , cant remenber >> with out checking , and have not sorted everythink out jet >> Every thing is on a memery stick at the moment >> was in prison on the 1881 census , I think it was >> for stealing food >> Cheers >> Cassy >> Cassy >> List Griffiths >> List Admin B.C, Wolverhampton >> and Potteries >> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: "David Williams" <djpw@bigpond.net.au> >> To: <eng-black-country@rootsweb.com> >> Sent: Sunday, February 20, 2011 12:44 AM >> Subject: Re: [Black Country] Roll call MOBBERLEY, NEALE, WALTHO, >> RUSHTON,FOLEY, ROUND, SKELDING, SCRIVEN, LANE, ROLLINSON, SYNOR, SURNAME >> >> >>> Dear All >>> >>> >>> >>> I am interested in each of the family names above (not just my direct >>> family >>> lines but all the rest because they are most likely related at some >>> point). >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> I am happy to share whatever I have and would welcome whatever you have >>> on >>> any of the above families. But I will admit upfront I still have not >>> been >>> able to solve Cassy's Round ancestors. >>> >>> I am currently sweltering in Sydney. >>> >>> Best Regards >>> >>> David Williams >>> >>> email: djpw@bigpond.net.au >> >> >> >> ------------------------------ >> >> Message: 4 >> Date: Sun, 20 Feb 2011 13:01:05 -0000 >> From: "Peter Willetts" <luminaires@btinternet.com> >> Subject: [Black Country] Roll Call: WILLETTS, WEAVER, HUBBLE, POTTER, >> PRIEST, ROUND, BRIGHT >> To: "ENG-BLACK-COUNTRY@rootsweb.com\" >> <ENG-BLACK-COUNTRY@rootsweb.com>" <eng-black-country@rootsweb.com> >> Message-ID: <D99907958B1F4A45A672550ED0304452@desktop1> >> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" >> >> Hello All, >> >> Would be happy to hear from anyone researching any of the above names >> 1800-1900, particularly in Dudley/Netherton/Brierley Hill area. >> >> Thank you >> >> Peter >> >> ------------------------------ >> >> Message: 5 >> Date: Sun, 20 Feb 2011 08:09:35 -0500 >> From: maaisha@aol.com >> Subject: Re: [Black Country] Roll Call >> To: eng-black-country@rootsweb.com >> Message-ID: <8CD9F168E506456-F6C-1489A@webmail-stg-d14.sysops.aol.com> >> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" >> >> >> I've noticed that my browser is cutting off some of the names in the >> subject line if they are too long. It would be helpful if those names >> could be repeated in the body of the message so that all of them can be >> read. Thanks. >> Cheers, Lois >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> ------------------------------ >> >> Message: 6 >> Date: Sun, 20 Feb 2011 05:14:55 -0800 (PST) >> From: William Longmore <w_longmore@yahoo.com> >> Subject: Re: [Black Country] Roll call MOBBERLEY, NEALE, WALTHO, >> RUSHTON, FOLEY, ROUND, SKELDING, SCRIVEN, LANE, ROLLINSON, SYNOR, >> SURNAME >> To: eng-black-country@rootsweb.com >> Message-ID: <920349.94495.qm@web30408.mail.mud.yahoo.com> >> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 >> >> >> Hi david, I have a Harriet Skelding married to William Capewell in >> Stourbridge in the 1880's. Their daughter, Mabel,born 1887,?married my >> grandfather Joseph Longmore 1917 and lived in Moor Lane. I am sorry I >> don't have more on the skelding's. Good luck with your research. >> Talk to you soon >> >> BILL >> >> --- On Sun, 20/2/11, David Williams <djpw@bigpond.net.au> wrote: >> >> >> From: David Williams <djpw@bigpond.net.au> >> Subject: Re: [Black Country] Roll call MOBBERLEY, NEALE, WALTHO, RUSHTON, >> FOLEY, ROUND, SKELDING, SCRIVEN, LANE, ROLLINSON, SYNOR, SURNAME >> To: eng-black-country@rootsweb.com >> Date: Sunday, 20 February, 2011, 0:44 >> >> >> >> >> >> ------------------------------ >> >> Message: 7 >> Date: Sun, 20 Feb 2011 14:06:08 -0000 >> From: "J langdell" <jlangdell@supanet.com> >> Subject: Re: [Black Country] Roll call MOBBERLEY, NEALE, WALTHO, >> RUSHTON, FOLEY, ROUND, SKELDING, SCRIVEN, LANE, ROLLINSON, SYNOR, >> SURNAME >> To: <eng-black-country@rootsweb.com> >> Message-ID: <0F84C83334BF482BBFA89870A8230231@OWNER86E53l834> >> Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; >> reply-type=original >> >> Hello David and Bill, >> >> I have an Eliza Pamela Skelding (1872-1910) who married Joseph Howard >> Pargeter. Eliza's parents Charles (1849-1908) & Mary Skelding. Charles' >> parents Charles & Mary Ann Skelding. >> >> Do you know of the Holy Trinity Amblecote's web site >> www.holytrinityamblecote.org.uk/parish_records.htm There are quite a few >> Skeldings on there. I have nothing to do with this web site, just to say >> that it's brilliant. >> >> Jean >> >> >> >> >> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: "William Longmore" <w_longmore@yahoo.com> >> To: <eng-black-country@rootsweb.com> >> Sent: Sunday, February 20, 2011 1:14 PM >> Subject: Re: [Black Country] Roll call MOBBERLEY, NEALE, WALTHO, >> RUSHTON,FOLEY, ROUND, SKELDING, SCRIVEN, LANE, ROLLINSON, SYNOR, SURNAME >> >> >> >> Hi david, I have a Harriet Skelding married to William Capewell in >> Stourbridge in the 1880's. Their daughter, Mabel,born 1887, married my >> grandfather Joseph Longmore 1917 and lived in Moor Lane. I am sorry I >> don't >> have more on the skelding's. Good luck with your research. >> Talk to you soon >> >> BILL >> >> --- On Sun, 20/2/11, David Williams <djpw@bigpond.net.au> wrote: >> >> >> From: David Williams <djpw@bigpond.net.au> >> Subject: Re: [Black Country] Roll call MOBBERLEY, NEALE, WALTHO, RUSHTON, >> FOLEY, ROUND, SKELDING, SCRIVEN, LANE, ROLLINSON, SYNOR, SURNAME >> To: eng-black-country@rootsweb.com >> Date: Sunday, 20 February, 2011, 0:44 >> >> >> >> >> ------------------------------------- >> The only List that specifically covers the whole of the Black Country. >> Run >> by Black Country folk who were born and still live in the area. >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> ENG-BLACK-COUNTRY-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' >> without >> the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >> >> >> >> >> ------------------------------ >> >> Message: 8 >> Date: Sun, 20 Feb 2011 14:20:45 -0000 >> From: "Ed Elks" <edelks@blueyonder.co.uk> >> Subject: [Black Country] Roll call >> To: "BLACK-COUNTRY" <ENG-BLACK-COUNTRY-L@rootsweb.com> >> Message-ID: >> <!&!AAAAAAAAAAAYAAAAAAAAAEdIBaBLgulPlM/Ffi4/2tfCgAAAEAAAAGQuJWG4rBZGuf8RBNJJQMoBAAAAAA==@blueyonder.co.uk> >> >> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" >> >> Researching: >> BAILEY, ELKS/ELKES/HELKS, FOLLOWS, GREGORY, MILLINGTON in the Bilston, >> Bradley, Sedgeley, Tipton areas. >> >> Happy to exchange information on any of the above. >> >> >> Ed Elks. >> >> >> ------------------------------ >> >> Message: 9 >> Date: Sun, 20 Feb 2011 15:31:22 -0000 >> From: "cassy franklin" <cassyfranklin@sky.com> >> Subject: [Black Country] RICHARDS 1881 CENSUS >> To: <eng-black-country@rootsweb.com> >> Message-ID: <D5F0009B4AEC4925A1954FC1BD25B9E9@asdf0bfe5c449f> >> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" >> >> Hi All >> This is the 1881 census for my Richards family >> would any one mind looking them up on later census >> please , not sure when Henry and Mary Ann died has there are several >> Cheers >> Cassy >> >> >> >> 1881 census OLDBURY ROAD >> Henry RIICHARDS 63 born West Brom Lighthouse fitter Head >> Mary Ann 50 borm Shropshire >> wife >> Joseph 20 born Smethwick >> son >> Frederick 18 born Smethwick >> son >> Cassy >> List Griffiths >> List Admin B.C, Wolverhampton >> and Potteries >> >> ------------------------------ >> >> Message: 10 >> Date: Sun, 20 Feb 2011 18:02:18 +0200 >> From: "Maurice Sheppard" <maurice@msheppard.com> >> Subject: Re: [Black Country] RICHARDS 1881 CENSUS >> To: <eng-black-country@rootsweb.com> >> Message-ID: <5A728A709724478FA23C94AF5A556997@sospiri> >> Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; >> reply-type=original >> >> Here we are Cassy, >> >> 189, Oldbury Rd, Harborne (Stafford) RG11/2963 Folio 45 Page 20 >> >> RICHARDS, Henry, Head, Married, M, 63, 1818, Lighthouse Fitter, West >> Bromwich,Staffordshire >> RICHARDS, Mary A, Wife, Married, F, 50, 1831, no occupation, Shropshire >> RICHARDS, Joseph, Son, Single, M, 20, 1861, Steam Gauge Maker, >> Smethwick,Staffordshire >> RICHARDS, Frederick J, Son, Single, M, 18, 1863, Packer At Glass Works >> (Out >> Of Employ), Smethwick,Staffordshire >> >> Regards, >> >> Maurice Sheppard at The LONGMORE Pages >> http://www.msheppard.com >> >> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: "cassy franklin" <cassyfranklin@sky.com> >> To: <eng-black-country@rootsweb.com> >> Sent: Sunday, February 20, 2011 5:31 PM >> Subject: [Black Country] RICHARDS 1881 CENSUS >> >> >>> Hi All >>> This is the 1881 census for my Richards family >>> would any one mind looking them up on later census >>> please , not sure when Henry and Mary Ann died has there are several >>> Cheers >>> Cassy >>> >>> >>> >>> 1881 census OLDBURY ROAD >>> Henry RIICHARDS 63 born West Brom Lighthouse fitter Head >>> Mary Ann 50 borm Shropshire >>> wife >>> Joseph 20 born Smethwick >>> son >>> Frederick 18 born Smethwick >>> son >>> Cassy >>> List Griffiths >>> List Admin B.C, Wolverhampton >>> and Potteries >>> ------------------------------------- >>> The only List that specifically covers the whole of the Black Country. >>> Run >>> by Black Country folk who were born and still live in the area. >>> ------------------------------- >>> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >>> ENG-BLACK-COUNTRY-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' >>> without >>> the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >>> >> >> >> >> ------------------------------ >> >> To contact the ENG-BLACK-COUNTRY list administrator, send an email to >> ENG-BLACK-COUNTRY-admin@rootsweb.com. >> >> To post a message to the ENG-BLACK-COUNTRY mailing list, send an email to >> ENG-BLACK-COUNTRY@rootsweb.com. >> >> __________________________________________________________ >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> ENG-BLACK-COUNTRY-request@rootsweb.com >> with the word "unsubscribe" without the quotes in the subject and the >> body >> of the >> email with no additional text. >> >> >> End of ENG-BLACK-COUNTRY Digest, Vol 6, Issue 37 >> ************************************************ > > ------------------------------------- > The only List that specifically covers the whole of the Black Country. 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Mary SKELDING [c.12 March 1809 at Brierley Hill, Staffs] was the dau. of Thomas SKELDING & Nancy STEVENS [m.26 May 1795 at Kingswinford, Staffs]. Mary SKELDING m. William SIMPSON on 19 May 1831 at St George’s, Birmingham. She had one brother James [c.21 Feb 1796 & d. 1 March 1796]. She had four sisters:- Phoebe [c.25 May 1798 & m. John TONGUE on 5 Feb 1817 at St Phillips, Birmingham]. Diana [c.25 Dec 1800 & m. Charles ATTWOOD on 4 Dec 1822 at Kingswinford]. Harriet [c.25 Sept 1803 & m. Henry TONGUE on 30 Dec 1829 at St Phillips]. Caroline [c.10 Nov 1811 & m. Alfred TAYLOR on 22 Sept 1836 at St Mary’s, Handsworth, Staffs]. I am trying to trace the GRANDFATHER of Mary SKELDING. I believe that he was another Thomas SKELDING whose wife was Mary ? Do you have any data about him? Regards Graham SKELDING.

According to the Victorian slang dictionary online, http://www.tlucretius.net/Sophie/Castle/victorian_slang.html toke is bread. -----Original Message----- From: phllrb@aol.com To: eng-black-country@rootsweb.com Sent: Tue, May 24, 2011 4:28 am Subject: [Black Country] Toke Hi, Ian, Thanks for your reply. I would think that you are correct in saying that it would be the poorer quality meat.. One of the recipes, for tomato sausage (delicious!!) is: Pork............ 30 pounds Back fat ..... 6 pounds Bread ........ 10 pounds Toke (pink).. 4 pounds Tomatos ..... 10 pounds Ginger ......... 1 oz. Mace ............ 1oz. Cambridge seasoning ... 1.5 oz. The seasoning recipe was a closely-guarded recipe as it was the Palethorpe's advert. for their goods. Rob. Phillips ------------------------------------- The only List that specifically covers the whole of the Black Country. Run by Black Country folk who were born and still live in the area. ****************************** ATTENTION TO ALL:- When replying please remove the details that do not apply to your mail and change the SUBJECT LINE for best useage of ARCHIVED MATERIALS. ------------------------------- ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to ENG-BLACK-COUNTRY-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message