Hi Vic, I am also researching the Painter surname and wondered if we may have a connection. Most of mine came from the Stafford area and later Tipton/West Bromwich and possibly Kingswinford. Regards Gill On 19 July 2011 19:12, Gord Pace <gtp3066@nexicom.net> wrote: > > On 2011-07-19, at 12:43 PM, Victor Ward wrote: > > > I'm not sure if anybody else has discovered this site but it is very > useful > > when researching parish records. The site address is > > http://parishmouse.wordpress.com/ > > > > There is a search bar in the top left which you can use to lookup > parishes, > > such as Chelmarsh or Stoke St Milborough etc. > > > > Regards, > > Victor Ward > > > > Surnames being researched WARD, KIRKHAM, PAINTER, BYTHEWAY, PREECE, > ALLEN, > > SCRIVEN > > Hello Vic, > > I have a WARD page where I've gathered some Christenings, marriages > http://www.pacefamilyhistory.info/records/ward.htm > You may have an interest. > > WARD HUNT UNETT CULWICK PACE HASSALL > Shropshire, Staffordshire, Warwickshire > WARD & UNETT - Shropshire - Boningale, Codsall, Albrighton, also Shareshill > WARD HUNT - Warwickshire - Tanworth in Arden, Wootton Wawen, Claverdon, > Warwick > Cheers, Gord Pace, Manitouwadge, ON > ------------------------------------- > The only List that specifically covers the whole of the Black Country. Run > by Black Country folk who were born and still live in the area. > ****************************** > ATTENTION TO ALL:- When replying please remove the details that do not > apply to your mail and change the SUBJECT LINE for best useage of ARCHIVED > MATERIALS. > ------------------------------- > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > ENG-BLACK-COUNTRY-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without > the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

I have Sydney Woolvin age 26 in Long Lane in 1911, born in Blackheath, but I cannot find him in 1891 and 1901 [Ancestry]. I don't yet know the names of his parents/siblings. Any suggestions for searching most welcome! Thanks Carol

On 2011-07-19, at 12:43 PM, Victor Ward wrote: > I'm not sure if anybody else has discovered this site but it is very useful > when researching parish records. The site address is > http://parishmouse.wordpress.com/ > > There is a search bar in the top left which you can use to lookup parishes, > such as Chelmarsh or Stoke St Milborough etc. > > Regards, > Victor Ward > > Surnames being researched WARD, KIRKHAM, PAINTER, BYTHEWAY, PREECE, ALLEN, > SCRIVEN Hello Vic, I have a WARD page where I've gathered some Christenings, marriages http://www.pacefamilyhistory.info/records/ward.htm You may have an interest. WARD HUNT UNETT CULWICK PACE HASSALL Shropshire, Staffordshire, Warwickshire WARD & UNETT - Shropshire - Boningale, Codsall, Albrighton, also Shareshill WARD HUNT - Warwickshire - Tanworth in Arden, Wootton Wawen, Claverdon, Warwick Cheers, Gord Pace, Manitouwadge, ON

My apologies to anyone who visited my newly located web site at http://www.jimella.me.uk/ following my announcement here the other day and who tried to use the email sending facility. I regret there was a bug which did not show up in off-line testing. It has now been resolved and messages can now be sent as intended.

Here's how the other JUKES fits into my 2X great grandmother HANNAH HICKIN's FARLEY THACKER from: http://www.pacefamilyhistory.info/fact/1004.htm http://www.pacefamilyhistory.info/fact/1005.htm Thomas HICKIN + Mary FARLEY - m 17 Apr 1797 in Norton Canes, Staffordshire • Archasadilla HICKIN - b: 25 Feb 1798 in Norton Canes, Staffordshire • Violetta HICKIN - b: 2 Aug 1807 in Norton Canes, Staffordshire • Edward HICKIN - b: 3 Dec 1809 in Norton Canes, Staffordshire • HANNAH HICKIN - b: 28 Mar 1812 in Norton Canes, Staffordshire + JOSHUA PACE b 10 Jul 1808 LANEY GREEN STS - 2x great grandparents married 1833 in WALSALL, Staffordshire d 4 Apr 1895 in BLOXWICH nr Walsall 1 Thomas THACKER - b. 1776 Lichfield, St Michael, STS + Sarah ? b. 1778 Lichfield, St Michael, STS • 2 Charles THACKER - b. 18 Apr 1802 Lichfield, St Michael,STS + Margaret FARLEY - m 1827 Walsall,STS • 3 Charles THACKER - b. 28 Mar 1831 Brownhills,STS • 3 Anne THACKER - b. 18 Oct 1835 Brownhills,STS • 3 Mary THACKER - b. 04 Jan 1838 Brownhills,STS • 3 Lucy THACKER - b. 23 Feb 1840 Brownhills,STS ..................+ Thomas FOLLOWS - m. ?1870 ..................+ Thomas JUCKES - d. 1870s • 4 Sarah JUCKES - b. 17 Jul 1875 Brownhills/Norton Canes,STS m. 20 Nov 1894 Newcastle, NSW, Australia + Arthur H. HIGHFIELD Cheers, Gord Pace

Jim, On your page - http://www.jimella.me.uk/ball.cfm#jb1 - is mentioned: "Following Sarah's death, he married again to widow Hannah Naylor (née Jukes)" I have Jukes & Naylor too; at http://www.pacefamilyhistory.info/lines/cullwick/vicarage.htm: 3 EDWIN / EDWARD CULWICK - born abt 1845 BROMSGROVE Worcestershire - 1851 census at REDNAL shows as 6 years old + PHOEBE NAYLOR of Sedgley m 16 May 1864 MARRIAGE NOTICE - All Saints West BROMWICH - EDWARD, x, 22, bach, carter of West Brom, father VICARAGE, carter and PHOEBE, (x), 23, spinster, father JOB NAYLOR, miner. Witnesses SAMUEL CULLWICK (signed) and PHEBE ANN JUKES, (x). EDWARD was a coal miner in Laney Green, Staffs. He died there on 6th November 1873 from bronchitis and pneumonia – informant EMILY PACE(sister) of Laney Green, present at death (she signed). PHOEBE NAYLOR was bt at Sedgley on 11 Apr 1841, parents JOB and MARY NAYLOR. She appears to have been named after an older sister PHOEBE b 1831 died age 3 PHOEBE married, secondly, JOHN FASEY on 9 August 1880 at Sedgley (VTR). I believe this FASEY/PHASEY may have come to Canada as I worked with one at Oshawa. It was said that there were only about four Phasey/fasey folks in Canada.. Emily Pace nee Culwick was my great grandmother 3 SAMUEL CULWICK 1843-1901 - born abt 1846 KINGS NORTON, Worcestershire. 1851 census at Rednal - shows as 5 years old Occ: Moulder + HARRIETT ELIZABETH PADDOCK 1843-1889 - b 1843 WEST BROMWICH Marriage was 29 Jan 1866 at West Brom All Saints Samuel, (signed), 22, bach, brass caster of West Brom, father Vicarage, labourer and Harriet, (signed), 23, sp, father Thomas PADDOCK, labourer. Witnesses James LONGMORE and Harriet CULLWICK (sister of bridegroom). On another of my pages, I have JUKES again in HICKEN ancestry of Norton Canes area. This is in connection to my 2X great grandmother Hannah Hicken who married JOSHUA PACE 1808-1895 Mybe warrents a closer look. Gord Pace in Ontario

On 2011-07-14, at 4:20 PM, Jim Fisher wrote: > My apologies to anyone who visited my newly located web site at > http://www.jimella.me.uk/ following my announcement.... Hi Jim, I enjoyed very much, my visit to your interesting website, this morning. Thanks for making us aware of your thoughtful creations. Good work. Gord Pace - http://www.pacefamilyhistory.info

Hi All Would anyone do me a look up please on Ancestry for a war record of Henry Edward Thompson's born the last quarter of 1887 West Bromwich. He was born Edward Henry Thompson but on his marriage and death certificates was known as Henry Edward Thompson. , I believe he was with the Worcesershires Regiment and was born Oldbury He was gassed in the fFirst World War and died in 1931 ,he never recovered from being gassed he was buried in a paupers grave at Roodend Grave yard has his wife Bertha Franklin my aunt could not afford to buy his a grave , He had no stone or anythink to mark his grave but me and my cousin Sarah his granddaughter are trying to do something about it Can anyone help with his war records please Cheers Cassy

Hi All The Staffs BMD has been updated with the following records .... Deaths: 499 for Cannock (old Penkridge Rural District), registers at Newcastle-Under-Lyme (1842-1847) regards Bill ======================================================================== The Staffordshire BMD can be found at http://www.staffordshirebmd.org.uk and the West Midlands BMD at http://www.westmidlandsbmd.org.uk

Members may be interested to know that I have moved my web site to a new host with better facilities. The old one will remain in place for a time but will not be updated. The home page is now at http://www.jimella.me.uk but pages more likely to be of interest to members of this list are: My main family history page at http://www.jimella.me.uk/geneal.cfm English counties, parishes, etc (history of the systems) http://www.jimella.me.uk/counties.cfm Lower Gornal at http://www.jimella.me.uk/lgornal.cfm Gornal surnames interests list (contact me if you would like yours added) at http://www.jimella.me.uk/lgorsrnm.cfm Staffordshire at http://www.jimella.me.uk/staffs.cfm Worcestershire at http://www.jimella.me.uk/worcs.cfm Jim Fisher

Must all be asleep think I have only had two messages in two days. Harry ----- Original Message ---- From: Alec Newnes <brummiepip@msn.com> To: ENG-BLACK-COUNTRY <ENG-BLACK-COUNTRY@rootsweb.com> Sent: Sat, July 9, 2011 6:59:01 PM Subject: [Black Country] messages Hi is there a problem with messages not getting any ? Alec ------------------------------------- The only List that specifically covers the whole of the Black Country. Run by Black Country folk who were born and still live in the area. ****************************** ATTENTION TO ALL:- When replying please remove the details that do not apply to your mail and change the SUBJECT LINE for best useage of ARCHIVED MATERIALS. ------------------------------- ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to ENG-BLACK-COUNTRY-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

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Hi Cassy - few years later byt my granddad came up from South Wales to be buried in Tipton Cemetery in the 1950s - in his coffin on a train to Dudley Port. Maggie ======================================== Message Received: Jul 07 2011, 02:54 PM From: "cassy franklin" To: eng-black-country@rootsweb.com Cc: Subject: [Black Country] TRANSPORTING DEAD BODIES Hi All Trying to find out if there would be any records of either trains or canal carriers carring dead bodies from London to Oldbury in the 1930s , and if so any idea where I can find the records Trying to find more info on my Aunt Susanah Franklin Cheers Cassy Cassy List Griffiths List Admin B.C, Wolverhampton and Potteries ------------------------------------- The only List that specifically covers the whole of the Black Country. Run by Black Country folk who were born and still live in the area. ****************************** ATTENTION TO ALL:- When replying please remove the details that do not apply to your mail and change the SUBJECT LINE for best useage of ARCHIVED MATERIALS. ------------------------------- ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to ENG-BLACK-COUNTRY-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message http://thesaltfamily.tribalpages.com/ www.familytrails.net Researching : SALT, BARKLAM/BARTLAM, LOWE, JONES, RILEY, DEAN, SAUNDERS, BURBRIDGE, BURNS, BROWN, FOSTER, HUMPHRIES, STACKHOUSE, SCANLON, SHIRLEY, WEAVER, BENNETT

Hi Nigel Thank you for your further input. I think that Richards will is a key document and am making enquiries at Worcester RO. Who knows there may also be a will for his father. Thanks again Peter Knott ----- Original Message ----- From: "Nigel Brown" <nigel-brown@blueyonder.co.uk> To: <eng-black-country@rootsweb.com> Sent: Thursday, July 07, 2011 11:58 AM Subject: Re: [Black Country] Richard SIVITER of Rowley Regis > Hello cousin Peter, > > I don't think I can add very much more. I came across the Siviters whilst > researching my Attwoods. I do know Siviters Lane well in Rowley village > and > I know Turners Hill - as a child in Cradley I used to listen to the > blasting > at the quarry at night. Most of my information on the Siviters is the > research of a Howard Siviter whom I have had no contact with for many > years. > > I do, that is, he does, have a record of the other 1747 Richard, baptised > 24 > March, son of John Siviter and Elizabeth Gilberts, nothing more on him. He > also has the 1740 Richard baptised 23 November 1740, married Judith > Parsons > 7 September 1760, 8 children: William, Rachel, Hannah, Thomas, Joseph (m. > Isabella Hartland), Samuel, Ann and Manuel. > > I have not verified any of this information from other sources. > > I hope this helps. > > Best wishes, > > Nigel (now in exile from the Black Country living in Wolverhampton) > > -----Original Message----- > From: Peter Knott > Sent: 07 July 2011 9:25 AM > To: eng-black-country@rootsweb.com > Subject: Re: [Black Country] Richard SIVITER of Rowley Regis > > Hello Nigel > > Apologies for the delay in reply. I have been going over all my facts > again > before responding. > > Yes - I have the Richard Siviter and Hannah Burton marriage which took > place > in 1773. I am a descendant of their daur Mary who married Joram Willetts. > I > make it that Richard & Hannah are my fourth great grandparents and that > you > and I must be distant cousins. > I think that in addition to the three children which you mentioned there > was > a fourth named Hannah and I imagine that the will which you mentioned > proves > that the RS who took his own life was the husband of Hannah (senior) and > father of the four children. However there was another RS baptised at > Rowley > in 1747 (with parents John & Elizabeth) and indeed yet another baptised in > 1740 having parents Benjamin & Jane. I had thought that earlier I had > found > relevant marriages for all three Richards and therefore they all survived > childhood but now on looking again I am able to find only two (one to our > Hannah Burton and the other to Judith Parsons). On the other hand I can > find > no burial record for a young Richard. > > Earlier I had tried to determine which Richard went on to marry Hannah B > and > later to commit suicide, but had given up. Probably the 1740 one can be > discounted being too early for someone who married in 1773 but it seems > that > two possible 1747 candidates remain and there is no apparent clue from > names > given to any of the children. Is there any firm evidence that our Richard > was the son of Daniel? Am I missing something? > > Anyway thank you cousin for your assistance. Your information about the > existence of a Richard will is particularly helpful. > > Kind Regards > > Peter Knott > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Nigel Brown" <nigel-brown@blueyonder.co.uk> > To: <eng-black-country@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Tuesday, July 05, 2011 6:37 PM > Subject: Re: [Black Country] Richard SIVITER of Rowley Regis > > >> Hi Peter, >> >> I think you will find that Richard Siviter (1747-1817) who committed > suicide >> by hanging himself was the son of Daniel S. and Susannah Bissell. Richard >> was married (I believe, but I don't have details) to Hannah Burton and > they >> had three children that I know of: Mary, William and Elizabeth. He was a >> farmer of Turners Hill, according to his will (Worcester record office). >> >> Richard was my 5 x great uncle, or to put it another way, his parents >> were >> my 6 x great grandparents and his sister Elizabeth and her husband >> William >> Attwood were my 5 x great grandparents. >> >> I hope this helps. >> >> Nigel Brown >> www.cradleylinks.co.uk >> >> -----Original Message-----From: Peter Knott >> Sent: 05 July 2011 5:08 PM >> To: eng-black-country@rootsweb.com >> Subject: [Black Country] Richard SIVITER of Rowley Regis >> >> I have discovered an entry in the Rowley Regis burial transcripts which >> reads 18 Feb 1817 Richard Siviter Tanners Hill, 73, Hanged himself, and > wish >> to determine more detail. Presumably there would have been an inquest - >> would I be correct in assuming that RR falls/fell within the jurisdiction > of >> the Walsall Coroner? Does anyone know whether Coroners Reports survive >> for >> this period and if so where they can be accessed please? Also what is the >> best newspaper to search for a report of any inquest which was held and >> where that search is best done. >> Am also keen to find out exactly which Richard Sivitor took his own life. >> Any help gratefully received >> Peter Knott > > ------------------------------------- > The only List that specifically covers the whole of the Black Country. Run > by Black Country folk who were born and still live in the area. > ****************************** > ATTENTION TO ALL:- When replying please remove the details that do not > apply to your mail and change the SUBJECT LINE for best useage of ARCHIVED > MATERIALS. > ------------------------------- > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > ENG-BLACK-COUNTRY-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without > the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

Hi All Trying to find out if there would be any records of either trains or canal carriers carring dead bodies from London to Oldbury in the 1930s , and if so any idea where I can find the records Trying to find more info on my Aunt Susanah Franklin Cheers Cassy Cassy List Griffiths List Admin B.C, Wolverhampton and Potteries

Hello cousin Peter, I don't think I can add very much more. I came across the Siviters whilst researching my Attwoods. I do know Siviters Lane well in Rowley village and I know Turners Hill - as a child in Cradley I used to listen to the blasting at the quarry at night. Most of my information on the Siviters is the research of a Howard Siviter whom I have had no contact with for many years. I do, that is, he does, have a record of the other 1747 Richard, baptised 24 March, son of John Siviter and Elizabeth Gilberts, nothing more on him. He also has the 1740 Richard baptised 23 November 1740, married Judith Parsons 7 September 1760, 8 children: William, Rachel, Hannah, Thomas, Joseph (m. Isabella Hartland), Samuel, Ann and Manuel. I have not verified any of this information from other sources. I hope this helps. Best wishes, Nigel (now in exile from the Black Country living in Wolverhampton) -----Original Message----- From: Peter Knott Sent: 07 July 2011 9:25 AM To: eng-black-country@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [Black Country] Richard SIVITER of Rowley Regis Hello Nigel Apologies for the delay in reply. I have been going over all my facts again before responding. Yes - I have the Richard Siviter and Hannah Burton marriage which took place in 1773. I am a descendant of their daur Mary who married Joram Willetts. I make it that Richard & Hannah are my fourth great grandparents and that you and I must be distant cousins. I think that in addition to the three children which you mentioned there was a fourth named Hannah and I imagine that the will which you mentioned proves that the RS who took his own life was the husband of Hannah (senior) and father of the four children. However there was another RS baptised at Rowley in 1747 (with parents John & Elizabeth) and indeed yet another baptised in 1740 having parents Benjamin & Jane. I had thought that earlier I had found relevant marriages for all three Richards and therefore they all survived childhood but now on looking again I am able to find only two (one to our Hannah Burton and the other to Judith Parsons). On the other hand I can find no burial record for a young Richard. Earlier I had tried to determine which Richard went on to marry Hannah B and later to commit suicide, but had given up. Probably the 1740 one can be discounted being too early for someone who married in 1773 but it seems that two possible 1747 candidates remain and there is no apparent clue from names given to any of the children. Is there any firm evidence that our Richard was the son of Daniel? Am I missing something? Anyway thank you cousin for your assistance. Your information about the existence of a Richard will is particularly helpful. Kind Regards Peter Knott ----- Original Message ----- From: "Nigel Brown" <nigel-brown@blueyonder.co.uk> To: <eng-black-country@rootsweb.com> Sent: Tuesday, July 05, 2011 6:37 PM Subject: Re: [Black Country] Richard SIVITER of Rowley Regis > Hi Peter, > > I think you will find that Richard Siviter (1747-1817) who committed suicide > by hanging himself was the son of Daniel S. and Susannah Bissell. Richard > was married (I believe, but I don't have details) to Hannah Burton and they > had three children that I know of: Mary, William and Elizabeth. He was a > farmer of Turners Hill, according to his will (Worcester record office). > > Richard was my 5 x great uncle, or to put it another way, his parents were > my 6 x great grandparents and his sister Elizabeth and her husband William > Attwood were my 5 x great grandparents. > > I hope this helps. > > Nigel Brown > www.cradleylinks.co.uk > > -----Original Message-----From: Peter Knott > Sent: 05 July 2011 5:08 PM > To: eng-black-country@rootsweb.com > Subject: [Black Country] Richard SIVITER of Rowley Regis > > I have discovered an entry in the Rowley Regis burial transcripts which > reads 18 Feb 1817 Richard Siviter Tanners Hill, 73, Hanged himself, and wish > to determine more detail. Presumably there would have been an inquest - > would I be correct in assuming that RR falls/fell within the jurisdiction of > the Walsall Coroner? Does anyone know whether Coroners Reports survive for > this period and if so where they can be accessed please? Also what is the > best newspaper to search for a report of any inquest which was held and > where that search is best done. > Am also keen to find out exactly which Richard Sivitor took his own life. > Any help gratefully received > Peter Knott

Hello Nigel Apologies for the delay in reply. I have been going over all my facts again before responding. Yes - I have the Richard Siviter and Hannah Burton marriage which took place in 1773. I am a descendant of their daur Mary who married Joram Willetts. I make it that Richard & Hannah are my fourth great grandparents and that you and I must be distant cousins. I think that in addition to the three children which you mentioned there was a fourth named Hannah and I imagine that the will which you mentioned proves that the RS who took his own life was the husband of Hannah (senior) and father of the four children. However there was another RS baptised at Rowley in 1747 (with parents John & Elizabeth) and indeed yet another baptised in 1740 having parents Benjamin & Jane. I had thought that earlier I had found relevant marriages for all three Richards and therefore they all survived childhood but now on looking again I am able to find only two (one to our Hannah Burton and the other to Judith Parsons). On the other hand I can find no burial record for a young Richard. Earlier I had tried to determine which Richard went on to marry Hannah B and later to commit suicide, but had given up. Probably the 1740 one can be discounted being too early for someone who married in 1773 but it seems that two possible 1747 candidates remain and there is no apparent clue from names given to any of the children. Is there any firm evidence that our Richard was the son of Daniel? Am I missing something? Anyway thank you cousin for your assistance. Your information about the existence of a Richard will is particularly helpful. Kind Regards Peter Knott ----- Original Message ----- From: "Nigel Brown" <nigel-brown@blueyonder.co.uk> To: <eng-black-country@rootsweb.com> Sent: Tuesday, July 05, 2011 6:37 PM Subject: Re: [Black Country] Richard SIVITER of Rowley Regis > Hi Peter, > > I think you will find that Richard Siviter (1747-1817) who committed suicide > by hanging himself was the son of Daniel S. and Susannah Bissell. Richard > was married (I believe, but I don't have details) to Hannah Burton and they > had three children that I know of: Mary, William and Elizabeth. He was a > farmer of Turners Hill, according to his will (Worcester record office). > > Richard was my 5 x great uncle, or to put it another way, his parents were > my 6 x great grandparents and his sister Elizabeth and her husband William > Attwood were my 5 x great grandparents. > > I hope this helps. > > Nigel Brown > www.cradleylinks.co.uk > > -----Original Message-----From: Peter Knott > Sent: 05 July 2011 5:08 PM > To: eng-black-country@rootsweb.com > Subject: [Black Country] Richard SIVITER of Rowley Regis > > I have discovered an entry in the Rowley Regis burial transcripts which > reads 18 Feb 1817 Richard Siviter Tanners Hill, 73, Hanged himself, and wish > to determine more detail. Presumably there would have been an inquest - > would I be correct in assuming that RR falls/fell within the jurisdiction of > the Walsall Coroner? Does anyone know whether Coroners Reports survive for > this period and if so where they can be accessed please? Also what is the > best newspaper to search for a report of any inquest which was held and > where that search is best done. > Am also keen to find out exactly which Richard Sivitor took his own life. > Any help gratefully received > Peter Knott > > ------------------------------------- > The only List that specifically covers the whole of the Black Country. Run by Black Country folk who were born and still live in the area. > ****************************** > ATTENTION TO ALL:- When replying please remove the details that do not apply to your mail and change the SUBJECT LINE for best useage of ARCHIVED MATERIALS. > ------------------------------- > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to ENG-BLACK-COUNTRY-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

unsubscribe On 6 July 2011 08:00, <eng-black-country-request@rootsweb.com> wrote: > > Today's Topics: > > 1. Richard SIVITER of Rowley Regis (Peter Knott) > 2. Re: Richard SIVITER of Rowley Regis (Paul Prescott) > 3. Re: Richard SIVITER of Rowley Regis (Nigel Brown) > > > ---------- Forwarded message ---------- > From: "Peter Knott" <peter.knott@btinternet.com> > To: <eng-black-country@rootsweb.com> > Date: Tue, 5 Jul 2011 17:07:41 +0100 > Subject: [Black Country] Richard SIVITER of Rowley Regis > I have discovered an entry in the Rowley Regis burial transcripts which > reads 18 Feb 1817 Richard Siviter Tanners Hill, 73, Hanged himself, and wish > to determine more detail. Presumably there would have been an inquest - > would I be correct in assuming that RR falls/fell within the jurisdiction of > the Walsall Coroner? Does anyone know whether Coroners Reports survive for > this period and if so where they can be accessed please? Also what is the > best newspaper to search for a report of any inquest which was held and > where that search is best done. > Am also keen to find out exactly which Richard Sivitor took his own life. > Any help gratefully received > Peter Knott > > > > > ---------- Forwarded message ---------- > From: Paul Prescott <paulgprescott@googlemail.com> > To: eng-black-country@rootsweb.com > Date: Tue, 5 Jul 2011 18:16:50 +0100 > Subject: Re: [Black Country] Richard SIVITER of Rowley Regis > Peter: > > Coroner's reports generally don't survive, and your best bet is a > newspaper report. > > The Staffordshire Advertiser has a name index covering this period. > It's not available on line, but can be inspected at Staffs Record > Office and possibly elsewhere. Perhaps trying the Rootsweb > Staffordshire list would find SKS able to look it up for you. > > Another possibility is Berrows Worcestershire Journal. Rowley Regis > was in Staffs, of course, but it was in the diocese of Worcester (not > Lichfield, like the rest of Staffs). Again this can be accessed at > the record office in Worcester, and a posting on the Rootsweb > Worcestershire list might find SKS able to help. > > Good luck - and let us know how you get on! > > Paul > > > > > On 5 July 2011 17:07, Peter Knott <peter.knott@btinternet.com> wrote: > > I have discovered an entry in the Rowley Regis burial transcripts which > > reads 18 Feb 1817 Richard Siviter Tanners Hill, 73, Hanged himself, and > wish > > to determine more detail. Presumably there would have been an inquest - > > would I be correct in assuming that RR falls/fell within the jurisdiction > of > > the Walsall Coroner? Does anyone know whether Coroners Reports survive > for > > this period and if so where they can be accessed please? Also what is the > > best newspaper to search for a report of any inquest which was held and > > where that search is best done. > > Am also keen to find out exactly which Richard Sivitor took his own life. > > Any help gratefully received > > Peter Knott > > > > > > ------------------------------------- > > The only List that specifically covers the whole of the Black Country. > Run by Black Country folk who were born and still live in the area. > > ****************************** > > ATTENTION TO ALL:- When replying please remove the details that do not > apply to your mail and change the SUBJECT LINE for best useage of ARCHIVED > MATERIALS. > > ------------------------------- > > > > ------------------------------- > > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > ENG-BLACK-COUNTRY-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without > the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > > > > ---------- Forwarded message ---------- > From: "Nigel Brown" <nigel-brown@blueyonder.co.uk> > To: <eng-black-country@rootsweb.com> > Date: Tue, 5 Jul 2011 18:37:36 +0100 > Subject: Re: [Black Country] Richard SIVITER of Rowley Regis > Hi Peter, > > I think you will find that Richard Siviter (1747-1817) who committed > suicide > by hanging himself was the son of Daniel S. and Susannah Bissell. Richard > was married (I believe, but I don't have details) to Hannah Burton and they > had three children that I know of: Mary, William and Elizabeth. He was a > farmer of Turners Hill, according to his will (Worcester record office). > > Richard was my 5 x great uncle, or to put it another way, his parents were > my 6 x great grandparents and his sister Elizabeth and her husband William > Attwood were my 5 x great grandparents. > > I hope this helps. > > Nigel Brown > www.cradleylinks.co.uk > > -----Original Message-----From: Peter Knott > Sent: 05 July 2011 5:08 PM > To: eng-black-country@rootsweb.com > Subject: [Black Country] Richard SIVITER of Rowley Regis > > I have discovered an entry in the Rowley Regis burial transcripts which > reads 18 Feb 1817 Richard Siviter Tanners Hill, 73, Hanged himself, and > wish > to determine more detail. Presumably there would have been an inquest - > would I be correct in assuming that RR falls/fell within the jurisdiction > of > the Walsall Coroner? Does anyone know whether Coroners Reports survive for > this period and if so where they can be accessed please? Also what is the > best newspaper to search for a report of any inquest which was held and > where that search is best done. > Am also keen to find out exactly which Richard Sivitor took his own life. > Any help gratefully received > Peter Knott > > > > To contact the ENG-BLACK-COUNTRY list administrator, send an email to > ENG-BLACK-COUNTRY-admin@rootsweb.com. > > To post a message to the ENG-BLACK-COUNTRY mailing list, send an email to > ENG-BLACK-COUNTRY@rootsweb.com. > > __________________________________________________________ > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > ENG-BLACK-COUNTRY-request@rootsweb.com > with the word "unsubscribe" without the quotes in the subject and the body > of the > email with no additional text. > >

Paul Thank you very much for your information on newspapers. Am considering how best to pursue that angle and will certainly relay any results to the list in due course. Peter ----- Original Message ----- From: "Paul Prescott" <paulgprescott@googlemail.com> To: <eng-black-country@rootsweb.com> Sent: Tuesday, July 05, 2011 6:16 PM Subject: Re: [Black Country] Richard SIVITER of Rowley Regis > Peter: > > Coroner's reports generally don't survive, and your best bet is a > newspaper report. > > The Staffordshire Advertiser has a name index covering this period. > It's not available on line, but can be inspected at Staffs Record > Office and possibly elsewhere. Perhaps trying the Rootsweb > Staffordshire list would find SKS able to look it up for you. > > Another possibility is Berrows Worcestershire Journal. Rowley Regis > was in Staffs, of course, but it was in the diocese of Worcester (not > Lichfield, like the rest of Staffs). Again this can be accessed at > the record office in Worcester, and a posting on the Rootsweb > Worcestershire list might find SKS able to help. > > Good luck - and let us know how you get on! > > Paul > > > > > On 5 July 2011 17:07, Peter Knott <peter.knott@btinternet.com> wrote: >> I have discovered an entry in the Rowley Regis burial transcripts which >> reads 18 Feb 1817 Richard Siviter Tanners Hill, 73, Hanged himself, and >> wish >> to determine more detail. Presumably there would have been an inquest - >> would I be correct in assuming that RR falls/fell within the jurisdiction >> of >> the Walsall Coroner? Does anyone know whether Coroners Reports survive >> for >> this period and if so where they can be accessed please? Also what is the >> best newspaper to search for a report of any inquest which was held and >> where that search is best done. >> Am also keen to find out exactly which Richard Sivitor took his own life. >> Any help gratefully received >> Peter Knott >> >> >> ------------------------------------- >> The only List that specifically covers the whole of the Black Country. >> Run by Black Country folk who were born and still live in the area. >> ****************************** >> ATTENTION TO ALL:- When replying please remove the details that do not >> apply to your mail and change the SUBJECT LINE for best useage of >> ARCHIVED MATERIALS. >> ------------------------------- >> >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> ENG-BLACK-COUNTRY-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' >> without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >> > ------------------------------------- > The only List that specifically covers the whole of the Black Country. Run > by Black Country folk who were born and still live in the area. > ****************************** > ATTENTION TO ALL:- When replying please remove the details that do not > apply to your mail and change the SUBJECT LINE for best useage of ARCHIVED > MATERIALS. > ------------------------------- > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > ENG-BLACK-COUNTRY-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without > the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

Hi Peter, I think you will find that Richard Siviter (1747-1817) who committed suicide by hanging himself was the son of Daniel S. and Susannah Bissell. Richard was married (I believe, but I don't have details) to Hannah Burton and they had three children that I know of: Mary, William and Elizabeth. He was a farmer of Turners Hill, according to his will (Worcester record office). Richard was my 5 x great uncle, or to put it another way, his parents were my 6 x great grandparents and his sister Elizabeth and her husband William Attwood were my 5 x great grandparents. I hope this helps. Nigel Brown www.cradleylinks.co.uk -----Original Message-----From: Peter Knott Sent: 05 July 2011 5:08 PM To: eng-black-country@rootsweb.com Subject: [Black Country] Richard SIVITER of Rowley Regis I have discovered an entry in the Rowley Regis burial transcripts which reads 18 Feb 1817 Richard Siviter Tanners Hill, 73, Hanged himself, and wish to determine more detail. Presumably there would have been an inquest - would I be correct in assuming that RR falls/fell within the jurisdiction of the Walsall Coroner? Does anyone know whether Coroners Reports survive for this period and if so where they can be accessed please? Also what is the best newspaper to search for a report of any inquest which was held and where that search is best done. Am also keen to find out exactly which Richard Sivitor took his own life. Any help gratefully received Peter Knott