Wanda Lee

Evening All, My BC surnames: ELKS, FOLLOWS, BAILEY, MILLINGTON, GREGORY. All around BC particularly Bilston, Bradley, Tipton and Sedgley. Ed Elks. -----Original Message----- From: eng-black-country-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:eng-black-country-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Paul Bennett Sent: 23 August 2011 18:04 To: Black Country Messages Subject: Re: [Black Country] Roll Call Hi Ducie I have Dudley in my tree also known as Dudley Sims from the Sedgeley area anything the same in your tree. Paul ------------------------------------- The only List that specifically covers the whole of the Black Country. Run by Black Country folk who were born and still live in the area. ****************************** ATTENTION TO ALL:- When replying please remove the details that do not apply to your mail and change the SUBJECT LINE for best useage of ARCHIVED MATERIALS. ------------------------------- ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to ENG-BLACK-COUNTRY-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Hi Ducie I have Dudley in my tree also known as Dudley Sims from the Sedgeley area anything the same in your tree. Paul

Hi Judy and Lawrence >>An Edward Baggott married Elizabeth Diofs in Kingswinford in January 1705 but I have always wondered if that was her real name or a transcription error, have you seen the original script? I haven't so you may have one up on me there. The only place I have seen Diofs is on the LDS IGI site and copied onto many trees online. I would love to see the original and decide for myself. It sounds Dutch but even there I have found no such name. There was an Elizabeth Dicks, baptised in Dudley in 1681, that would make her 24 at marriage if it is her? I don't know.<< That sounds quite reasonable I can imagine someone reading the old hand Dicks as Diofs. although normally"fs" is a mis-transcription of a double "ss" where the first one is the old "long s" - which even occurs in printed work too. However since sending my first email on this subject I have been thinking about it and I wonder if it is a form of the name which today is DAYUS? Polly My Edward Baggott of the same period marries a Margaret Wannerton in Old Swinford in 1699. Both Edward Baggott and Elizabeth in Kingswinford and Edward Baggott and Margaret in Old Swinford had sons named Samuel, so your tree must come down from the Kingswinford line. As I recall Edward and Elizabeth had three children, Samuel, William and Elizabeth. My cousin descends through Edward and Margaret's son John, baptised 1725 in Old Swinford. I have not claimed any ancestors prior to Edward's father Edward in the mid-1600s as I cannot be sure of their line. I know a lot of folks go back through Humfrey Baggott in London but the son they all use to descend from him actually died in the plague at the age of 5 so that doesn't work for me. ...at least that is my interpretation. I have found so many Baggott charts going back to before the Normans with glaring errors in them that I never quite know what to believe so I'm very cautious. Gosh these Baggotts are fun. Lawrence Born Kidderminster living in Scotland -----Original Message----- From: Judy Evans [mailto:judy.evans27@btinternet.com] Sent: Tuesday, August 23, 2011 11:58 AM To: lawrencelowe@yahoo.co.uk Cc: eng-black-country@rootsweb.com Subject: BAGGOTT, DIOFS, WORTON, NOTT, LLOYD Hi Lawrence, My husband's 7x G Grandparents are Edward BAGGOTT and Elizabeth DIOFS. Their son Samuel had a daughter Elizabeth who married Abraham WORTON, their daughter Elizabeth WORTON married John NOTT. John & Elizabeth's NOTT's daughter Elizabeth married Leadenham LLOYD of Stourbridge. Judy ----- Original Message ---- From: LawrenceLowe <lawrencelowe@yahoo.co.uk> To: eng-black-country@rootsweb.com Sent: Tuesday, 23 August, 2011 8:06:41 Subject: Re: [Black Country] Roll Call: BAGGOTT, COX and WALL (... and DIOFS) My main names of interest are BAGGOTT, mainly from Old Swinford COX & WALL from Cookley, Wolverley and places north toward Stourbridge. .. And the mysterious transcription error (I think?) DIOFS of Kingswinford (1705) ------------------------------------- The only List that specifically covers the whole of the Black Country. Run by Black Country folk who were born and still live in the area. ****************************** ATTENTION TO ALL:- When replying please remove the details that do not apply to your mail and change the SUBJECT LINE for best useage of ARCHIVED MATERIALS. ------------------------------- ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to ENG-BLACK-COUNTRY-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Hi Judy, Thanks for getting back to me. One of my 3xgreat grandmothers was Hannah Lloyd, born 1789 in Wolverley. Her parents were Thomas an Elizabeth Lloyd The Baggott family is not my direct line, I am researching it for a Baggott cousin once removed, but what a list of challenges it uncovers. An Edward Baggott married Elizabeth Diofs in Kingswinford in January 1705 but I have always wondered if that was her real name or a transcription error, have you seen the original script? I haven't so you may have one up on me there. The only place I have seen Diofs is on the LDS IGI site and copied onto many trees online. I would love to see the original and decide for myself. It sounds Dutch but even there I have found no such name. There was an Elizabeth Dicks, baptised in Dudley in 1681, that would make her 24 at marriage if it is her? I don't know. My Edward Baggott of the same period marries a Margaret Wannerton in Old Swinford in 1699. Both Edward Baggott and Elizabeth in Kingswinford and Edward Baggott and Margaret in Old Swinford had sons named Samuel, so your tree must come down from the Kingswinford line. As I recall Edward and Elizabeth had three children, Samuel, William and Elizabeth. My cousin descends through Edward and Margaret's son John, baptised 1725 in Old Swinford. I have not claimed any ancestors prior to Edward's father Edward in the mid-1600s as I cannot be sure of their line. I know a lot of folks go back through Humfrey Baggott in London but the son they all use to descend from him actually died in the plague at the age of 5 so that doesn't work for me. ...at least that is my interpretation. I have found so many Baggott charts going back to before the Normans with glaring errors in them that I never quite know what to believe so I'm very cautious. Gosh these Baggotts are fun. Lawrence Born Kidderminster living in Scotland -----Original Message----- From: Judy Evans [mailto:judy.evans27@btinternet.com] Sent: Tuesday, August 23, 2011 11:58 AM To: lawrencelowe@yahoo.co.uk Cc: eng-black-country@rootsweb.com Subject: BAGGOTT, DIOFS, WORTON, NOTT, LLOYD Hi Lawrence, My husband's 7x G Grandparents are Edward BAGGOTT and Elizabeth DIOFS. Their son Samuel had a daughter Elizabeth who married Abraham WORTON, their daughter Elizabeth WORTON married John NOTT. John & Elizabeth's NOTT's daughter Elizabeth married Leadenham LLOYD of Stourbridge. Judy ----- Original Message ---- From: LawrenceLowe <lawrencelowe@yahoo.co.uk> To: eng-black-country@rootsweb.com Sent: Tuesday, 23 August, 2011 8:06:41 Subject: Re: [Black Country] Roll Call: BAGGOTT, COX and WALL (... and DIOFS) My main names of interest are BAGGOTT, mainly from Old Swinford COX & WALL from Cookley, Wolverley and places north toward Stourbridge. .. And the mysterious transcription error (I think?) DIOFS of Kingswinford (1705)

Hi Lawrence, My husband's 7x G Grandparents are Edward BAGGOTT and Elizabeth DIOFS. Their son Samuel had a daughter Elizabeth who married Abraham WORTON, their daughter Elizabeth WORTON married John NOTT. John & Elizabeth's NOTT's daughter Elizabeth married Leadenham LLOYD of Stourbridge. Judy ----- Original Message ---- From: LawrenceLowe <lawrencelowe@yahoo.co.uk> To: eng-black-country@rootsweb.com Sent: Tuesday, 23 August, 2011 8:06:41 Subject: Re: [Black Country] Roll Call: BAGGOTT, COX and WALL (... and DIOFS) My main names of interest are BAGGOTT, mainly from Old Swinford COX & WALL from Cookley, Wolverley and places north toward Stourbridge. .. And the mysterious transcription error (I think?) DIOFS of Kingswinford (1705)

> Yes that looks as if it should be DIOSS, but with that elemantary mistake made in reading the hand of the time, who knows what the rest is meant to be? Yes, probably a load of Dross ;-)) Paul

>>.. And the mysterious transcription error (I think?) DIOFS of Kingswinford (1705)<< Yes that looks as if it should be DIOSS, but with that elemantary mistake made in reading the hand of the time, who knows what the rest is meant to be? Polly

My main names of interest are BAGGOTT, mainly from Old Swinford COX & WALL from Cookley, Wolverley and places north toward Stourbridge. .. And the mysterious transcription error (I think?) DIOFS of Kingswinford (1705) Any inputs welcome. Regards to all, Lawrence Lowe (Dunfermline, Scotland)

Hello Listers Here are my ancestors, mainly from Tipton, Sedgley, Princes End, West Bromwich, Toll End, to name a few. Main line: From 1555 onwards HARTILL, LAW, HARROLD, Married into: From 1555 onwards UNDERWOOD, HATHAWAY, SUMMERHILL, DUDLEY, TURLEY, CORNFIELD, FOX, COLLINS, UNDERHILL, GREEN, WORLEY, CROSSE, TURTON Have a great day, Ducie Tweed Heads NSW Australia -- I am using the free version of SPAMfighter. We are a community of 7 million users fighting spam. SPAMfighter has removed 1175 of my spam emails to date. Get the free SPAMfighter here: http://www.spamfighter.com/len The Professional version does not have this message

My own list of particular genealogical headaches as follows; HIGGS (Wednesbury, Willenhall, Wolverhampton, & Penn, following 1757 marriage there. Also a different maternal line in Brierley Hill and Kingswinford pre 1803) TUCKEY (West Bromwich, Tipton, Wednesbury, & Deepfields/Coseley following Wolverhampton marriage in 1836 - not born in county on 1841 census and died in 1849 cholera epidemic so don't know where the line originates) PERCY & SHEWARD (in Dudley from early 1800s - previously from Salop & Worcs.) TAYLOR & RAMSDALE (also RAMSDELL, ROMSWELL, RAMSALL et al) in Wednesbury (later 18th century plus) possibly with Walsall connections SHORTER (sometimes SHORTHOUSE) in Willenhall BEARDMORE (inc BEARDSMORE, BEAMAN et al) in Wednesbury, Coseley & Ettingshall back to 1763 SHAKESPEARE (Netherton & Brierley Hill) especially if using first name 'Issachar' which comes down through marriage with maternal HIGGS line. JEAVONS (of Coseley & Sedgley) - two lots, probably interrelated, from early 1800s HALL, SMITH, NICHOLLS, JOHNSON, FULLWOOD, PARKER, BRADLEY (Sedgley & Kingswinford) back to 1684 with many ????s HAYWARD in Sedgley & Coseley from 1865 (previously from Bucks.) HALL, EDWARDS, BIRD, EDGE, BRETTELL, HILL (Netherton, Halesowen, & Oldwsinford) from early 1700s HANCOX, RHODES, BOURN, EVANS, FINCH (Coseley, Sedgley, & Dudley) DARBY (DARBEY), TOMPSON, WHITEHOUSE, TURTON, COOPER, PERSEHOUSE (& PARKSHOUSE) (Sedgley, Gornal, Dudley, & Tipton from early 1600s) DUDLEY alias SUTTON (alias TOMLINSON) - up at the castle (Dudley & Tipton, late 1500s-1600s) Thanks Carl

Evening All, My BC surnames: ELKS, FOLLOWS, BAILEY, MILLINGTON, GREGORY. All around BC particularly Bilston, Bradley, Tipton and Sedgley. Ed Elks

Rita Six Ways Smethwick was very near to Baldwin Street, just around the corner into Messenger Road. The area has now been totally redeveloped and bears little relationship to the days when Six Ways was a thriving hub of Smethwick life. If you look on an old map of the area, 1950s and before, this should illustrate how it was then. Hope this helps. Rob G Halesowen -----Original Message----- From: eng-black-country-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:eng-black-country-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of greenways6@aol.com Sent: 22 August 2011 08:58 To: drbresearch@tiscali.co.uk; ENG-BLACK-COUNTRY@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [Black Country] (Black Country) SURNAME LIST ROLL CALL Hi Derek, I am trying to trace a female WORKMAN who was in the Queens Hospital in 1883 whose address was Baldwin Street, Six Ways. Does this address mean anything to you by any chance. Rita Hello All Can anyone link with my Ancestors. BROOK(E)S Oldbury-West Bromwich- Halesowen late 1770's to 1900's Maybe Rowley Regis connection NEWEY Oldbury 1830's to 1950's Dudley before 1830 ROUND Halesowen 1750 onwards Oldbury Late 1700's onwards LAMBERT Kingswinford around 1800 TRANTER Oldbury 1750 to abt1870 WORKMAN Smethwick 1850 on (previously Gloucestershire) FARROW Smethwick 1860 on (previously Lincolnshire) WHITING Smethwick 1850 on (previously Gloucestershire) Any likely connections would be appreciated Many thanks Derek Brookes ------------------------------------- The only List that specifically covers the whole of the Black Country. Run by Black Country folk who were born and still live in the area. ****************************** ATTENTION TO ALL:- When replying please remove the details that do not apply to your mail and change the SUBJECT LINE for best useage of ARCHIVED MATERIALS. ------------------------------- ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to ENG-BLACK-COUNTRY-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

BAGGOTT - Wednesbury, Darlaston, West Bromwich, Cannock, Ogley Hay, Bushbury, seemingly everywhere in the B.C. BAUGH - Dudley, Broseley (Shropshire), Brownhills DAVIS - Wednesbury EDWARDS - Broseley (Shropshire), possibly Dudley in later life FEREDAY - Tipton, West Bromwich PARTRIDGE - West Bromwich CURTIS - moved all over B.C. due to two year assignments as a Staffordshire Constable MANSFIELD - Wednesbury Here's hoping for new leads and connections! Cheers, Lois

Hi Everyone, Long time reader, first time poster ..! My Surnames are ... Burrows, Hartill, Hyde, and Guest. Also: Marsh, Hodgetts Thanks! Emma

Thanks Derek, Rob and Ron for your reply to my query on the WORKMAN family from Baldwin Street. I have now found the person I wanted - Eliza Matilda WORKMAN born 1847 in London. Sorry if I gave the wrong impression, as it was the person not the whereabouts of the street I needed, but the address was the only lead I had. Rita

James Waldron Birth: Bet. 1793-1794 in England? Occupation: Shoemaker or miner Married Sarah A. MATHEWS about 1826 in England Children: Mary Ann WALDRON born 1827 Wednesbury. Possible death: ca. Aug 01, 1830 Wednesbury, Staffordshire, Eng Possible burial Aug 02, 1830, Church of England parish Wednesbury,

Hi all Edward Davies [1816-1885] was an galvanised iron manufacture whose company became Davies Bros in Crown Works, Wolverhampton. His son James [1845 - 1908] is my husbands ancestor on his maternal line. I would love to hear from any one else researching this family or any descendants. Regards Barbara

Hi: There are several places called Six Ways. There's at least 3 in Birmingham (try Google) one in Walsall, and this one http://blackcountryhistory.org/collections/getrecord/GB146_PHS_1970/ in Smethwick. Probably others too. Paul On 22 August 2011 11:41, Ron Snape <snape@cix.co.uk> wrote: > The only Six Ways I know was/is in Aston, Birmingham. > > Ron S > >>  Hi Derek, >> >> I am trying to trace a female WORKMAN who was in the Queens >> Hospital in 1883 whose address was Baldwin Street, Six Ways.  Does >> this address mean anything to you by any chance. > ------------------------------------- > The only List that specifically covers the whole of the Black Country. Run by Black Country folk who were born and still live in the area. > ****************************** > ATTENTION TO ALL:- When replying please remove the details that do not apply to your mail and change the SUBJECT LINE for best useage of ARCHIVED MATERIALS. > ------------------------------- > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to ENG-BLACK-COUNTRY-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

The only Six Ways I know was/is in Aston, Birmingham. Ron S > Hi Derek, > > I am trying to trace a female WORKMAN who was in the Queens > Hospital in 1883 whose address was Baldwin Street, Six Ways. Does > this address mean anything to you by any chance.