Hi all. I've just received a copy of a marriage certificate for two of my ancestors. They married in St. John's church on the Pleck Road, Walsall in 1863, with their residence being shown as Five Ways, Walsall. I've tried to find this on some old maps, without success. Does anyone either know where this is, or can offer me some advice where I might be able to find out. Many thanks, Geoff

Hi All The Staffs BMD has been updated with the following records .... Deaths: 998 for Rugeley, registers at Newcastle-Under-Lyme (1856-1859 & 1866-1870) 3,497 for Eccleshall, registers at Stafford (1837-1871), updates and additions 2,497 for Gnosall, registers at Stafford (1837-1866), updates and additions 4,986 for Stone, registers at Stafford (1837-1862), updates and additions 4,992 for Trentham, registers at Stafford (1837-1876), updates and additions regards Bill ======================================================================== The Staffordshire BMD can be found at http://www.staffordshirebmd.org.uk and the West Midlands BMD at http://www.westmidlandsbmd.org.uk

I have little direct data on this except to confirm that the Tibbetts and the Grosvenors were close family friends and referred to often in the Graingers Lane context. When the Graingers Lane Chapel was demolished my Mother's cousin Hartley Shaw (Shaw's Mineral Waters), obtained a plaque from the rubble enscribed " Sacred to the Memory of the Late Mr Joseph Grosvenor who died May 8th 1916 and Sarah his wife who died January 11th 1918 etc etc..." These were my maternal ggf and ggm. As a War time child I quaked under the passionate tongue and roar of one Mr Grimes at said Chapel ! Good Hunting Roger G Thompson -----Original Message----- From: eng-black-country-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:eng-black-country-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Rob Griffin Sent: 23 November 2011 11:41 To: eng-black-country@rootsweb.com; eng-wor-cradley@rootsweb.com Subject: [Black Country] TIBBETTS and BURLEY in Rowley Regis Hi Listers Can someone please help with information concerning the above families who seem to have a very close relationship and/or inter-marriage during the 18th & 19th centuries. I believe that the TIBBETTS (various spellings) were connected to early Methodism, especially re Graingers Lane Methodist Church. I have also learned that both BURLEY and TIBBETTS were land owners during the late 1700s, but my research so far only shows BURLEYs as Nailers or Labourers. Some of my ancestors were also listed in various census as living at "Tibbots Gardens, Cradley Heath", does this have some reference to the family name and why the road/area was so described? Rob G Halesowen ------------------------------------- The only List that specifically covers the whole of the Black Country. Run by Black Country folk who were born and still live in the area. ****************************** ATTENTION TO ALL:- When replying please remove the details that do not apply to your mail and change the SUBJECT LINE for best useage of ARCHIVED MATERIALS. ------------------------------- ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to ENG-BLACK-COUNTRY-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Hi Listers Can someone please help with information concerning the above families who seem to have a very close relationship and/or inter-marriage during the 18th & 19th centuries. I believe that the TIBBETTS (various spellings) were connected to early Methodism, especially re Graingers Lane Methodist Church. I have also learned that both BURLEY and TIBBETTS were land owners during the late 1700s, but my research so far only shows BURLEYs as Nailers or Labourers. Some of my ancestors were also listed in various census as living at "Tibbots Gardens, Cradley Heath", does this have some reference to the family name and why the road/area was so described? Rob G Halesowen

If you go to: www.probaterecords.co.uk/services.aspx it says that "Online orders can be placed easily and securely from this web site using most major credit cards." David. ----- Original Message ----- From: <maaisha@aol.com> To: <eng-black-country@rootsweb.com> Sent: Tuesday, November 22, 2011 4:57 PM Subject: Re: [Black Country] Paying in pounds from the U.S. > Oh, fudge! Western Union can't issue a money order in pounds, but can > deliver it to a bank account. The Probate Registry says they cannot be > reached by phone, so to write them with questions. No bank account > numbers given. Even if I had their account numbers, I'm told I would have > to call that bank to see what they charge for cashing such money orders. > So Western Union is out. The Post Office in Windsor, Canada says they > issue money orders in Canadian and American money only. Looks like I'm > back to square one. They could surely collect more money if they allowed > credit or debit cards. > Have fallen down the rabbit hole, > Lois > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: Paul Smith <mowbray@dal.ca> > To: eng-black-country <eng-black-country@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Tue, Nov 22, 2011 6:43 am > Subject: Re: [Black Country] Paying in pounds from the U.S. > > > Let me know how you make out. > > Cheers > > Paul > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: <maaisha@aol.com> > To: <eng-black-country@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Tuesday, November 22, 2011 12:22 PM > Subject: Re: [Black Country] Paying in pounds from the U.S. > > >> Thank you, Paul. I am trying Western Union now. Easier than a trip >> across the bridge. Maybe this wasn't as difficult as I thought. Thank >> you! >> Sincerely, >> Lois >> >> >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: Paul Smith <mowbray@dal.ca> >> To: eng-black-country <eng-black-country@rootsweb.com> >> Sent: Tue, Nov 22, 2011 6:02 am >> Subject: Re: [Black Country] Paying in pounds from the U.S. >> >> >> Have you considered trying Western Union? They have offices in the UK and >> this is probably acceptable for the agency you are dealing with in the >> US. >> You can purchase your transfer in US dollars. >> >> Cheers >> >> Paul >> >> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: <maaisha@aol.com> >> To: <eng-black-country@rootsweb.com> >> Sent: Tuesday, November 22, 2011 11:43 AM >> Subject: [Black Country] Paying in pounds from the U.S. >> >> >>> Hi All, >>> I am trying to order a will and it seems there is no chance of paying >>> with a credit or debit card. They want a crossed check in pounds or an >>> international money order. The post office here sells international >>> money >>> orders, but only for Canada and Mexico. Has anyone mastered this sort >>> of >>> thing? Not sure what to do. My bank cannot help. >>> Frustrated, >>> Lois in Michigan >>> ------------------------------------- >>> The only List that specifically covers the whole of the Black Country. >>> Run >>> by Black Country folk who were born and still live in the area. >>> ****************************** >>> ATTENTION TO ALL:- When replying please remove the details that do not >>> apply to your mail and change the SUBJECT LINE for best useage of >>> ARCHIVED >>> MATERIALS. >>> ------------------------------- >>> >>> ------------------------------- >>> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >>> ENG-BLACK-COUNTRY-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' >>> without >>> the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >>> >>> >> >> ------------------------------------- >> The only List that specifically covers the whole of the Black Country. >> Run >> by >> Black Country folk who were born and still live in the area. >> ****************************** >> ATTENTION TO ALL:- When replying please remove the details that do not >> apply to >> your mail and change the SUBJECT LINE for best useage of ARCHIVED >> MATERIALS. >> ------------------------------- >> >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> ENG-BLACK-COUNTRY-request@rootsweb.com >> with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the >> body >> of >> the message >> >> >> ------------------------------------- >> The only List that specifically covers the whole of the Black Country. >> Run >> by Black Country folk who were born and still live in the area. >> ****************************** >> ATTENTION TO ALL:- When replying please remove the details that do not >> apply to your mail and change the SUBJECT LINE for best useage of >> ARCHIVED >> MATERIALS. >> ------------------------------- >> >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> ENG-BLACK-COUNTRY-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' >> without >> the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >> >> > > ------------------------------------- > The only List that specifically covers the whole of the Black Country. 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OK. Do you have relatives in the UK? It might be possible to enlist their aid. E.g. they accept a Western Union transfer in US dollars. It is then converted into pounds. And on your behalf they then place the order for the will. If you don't have rellies we do have excellent listers who I am sure would be more than happy to help out. I had a somewhat similar experience many years ago when I contacted a genealogist on the Birmingham List who was coming to Nova Scotia. She was gracious enough to buy the will copy, brought it over.....and Bob's your uncle. I would hate to see you have to travel to Canada just to do something that should be oh so simple. Problem in the US is that their banking system isn't exactly the most sophisticated in the world. You should have emigrated to Canada <LOL!!!!!!>. Cheers Paul ----- Original Message ----- From: <maaisha@aol.com> To: <eng-black-country@rootsweb.com> Sent: Tuesday, November 22, 2011 12:57 PM Subject: Re: [Black Country] Paying in pounds from the U.S. > Oh, fudge! Western Union can't issue a money order in pounds, but can > deliver it to a bank account. The Probate Registry says they cannot be > reached by phone, so to write them with questions. No bank account > numbers given. Even if I had their account numbers, I'm told I would have > to call that bank to see what they charge for cashing such money orders. > So Western Union is out. The Post Office in Windsor, Canada says they > issue money orders in Canadian and American money only. Looks like I'm > back to square one. They could surely collect more money if they allowed > credit or debit cards. > Have fallen down the rabbit hole, > Lois > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: Paul Smith <mowbray@dal.ca> > To: eng-black-country <eng-black-country@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Tue, Nov 22, 2011 6:43 am > Subject: Re: [Black Country] Paying in pounds from the U.S. > > > Let me know how you make out. > > Cheers > > Paul > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: <maaisha@aol.com> > To: <eng-black-country@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Tuesday, November 22, 2011 12:22 PM > Subject: Re: [Black Country] Paying in pounds from the U.S. > > >> Thank you, Paul. I am trying Western Union now. Easier than a trip >> across the bridge. Maybe this wasn't as difficult as I thought. Thank >> you! >> Sincerely, >> Lois >> >> >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: Paul Smith <mowbray@dal.ca> >> To: eng-black-country <eng-black-country@rootsweb.com> >> Sent: Tue, Nov 22, 2011 6:02 am >> Subject: Re: [Black Country] Paying in pounds from the U.S. >> >> >> Have you considered trying Western Union? They have offices in the UK and >> this is probably acceptable for the agency you are dealing with in the >> US. >> You can purchase your transfer in US dollars. >> >> Cheers >> >> Paul >> >> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: <maaisha@aol.com> >> To: <eng-black-country@rootsweb.com> >> Sent: Tuesday, November 22, 2011 11:43 AM >> Subject: [Black Country] Paying in pounds from the U.S. >> >> >>> Hi All, >>> I am trying to order a will and it seems there is no chance of paying >>> with a credit or debit card. They want a crossed check in pounds or an >>> international money order. The post office here sells international >>> money >>> orders, but only for Canada and Mexico. Has anyone mastered this sort >>> of >>> thing? Not sure what to do. My bank cannot help. >>> Frustrated, >>> Lois in Michigan >>> ------------------------------------- >>> The only List that specifically covers the whole of the Black Country. >>> Run >>> by Black Country folk who were born and still live in the area. >>> ****************************** >>> ATTENTION TO ALL:- When replying please remove the details that do not >>> apply to your mail and change the SUBJECT LINE for best useage of >>> ARCHIVED >>> MATERIALS. >>> ------------------------------- >>> >>> ------------------------------- >>> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >>> ENG-BLACK-COUNTRY-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' >>> without >>> the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >>> >>> >> >> ------------------------------------- >> The only List that specifically covers the whole of the Black Country. >> Run >> by >> Black Country folk who were born and still live in the area. >> ****************************** >> ATTENTION TO ALL:- When replying please remove the details that do not >> apply to >> your mail and change the SUBJECT LINE for best useage of ARCHIVED >> MATERIALS. >> ------------------------------- >> >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> ENG-BLACK-COUNTRY-request@rootsweb.com >> with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the >> body >> of >> the message >> >> >> ------------------------------------- >> The only List that specifically covers the whole of the Black Country. >> Run >> by Black Country folk who were born and still live in the area. >> ****************************** >> ATTENTION TO ALL:- When replying please remove the details that do not >> apply to your mail and change the SUBJECT LINE for best useage of >> ARCHIVED >> MATERIALS. >> ------------------------------- >> >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> ENG-BLACK-COUNTRY-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' >> without >> the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >> >> > > ------------------------------------- > The only List that specifically covers the whole of the Black Country. 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Thank you to David for the link to the company that will serve as an English cousin and file for it. What a good idea they have. However, our Black Country family has come through again, and I've been contacted off list by a very kind person who can help. They have offered to do it for free, but I know Amazon gift cards can be sent to email addresses, so I will have a chance to show my appreciation. This is a fabulous List! I do have a cousin in the Cotswolds, but she works for a rather posh travel agency and is always off globe trotting. Yes, we should have gone to Canada, but it just wasn't working. One relative tried that and got shipwrecked off the coast of Nova Scotia. He ended up working as a cowboy in Texas! My grandmother came from the B.C.to Oklahoma Territory (not yet a state) in 1906, and never quite recovered. She said she knew America didn't have hundreds of years of civilization behind it, but she did hope I would not grow up booing at football games. (I politely cheer my team, and applaud especially good plays by the other team.) On my father's side I'm afraid a good dozen of them were in that bunch of malcontents who went sailing off on the Mayflower and weren't sure where they landed. But at least I'm close to Canada! Big Thanks to All, Lois -----Original Message----- From: Paul Smith <mowbray@dal.ca> To: eng-black-country <eng-black-country@rootsweb.com> Sent: Tue, Nov 22, 2011 7:29 am Subject: Re: [Black Country] Paying in pounds from the U.S. OK. Do you have relatives in the UK? It might be possible to enlist their aid. E.g. they accept a Western Union transfer in US dollars. It is then converted into pounds. And on your behalf they then place the order for the will. If you don't have rellies we do have excellent listers who I am sure would be more than happy to help out. I had a somewhat similar experience many years ago when I contacted a genealogist on the Birmingham List who was coming to Nova Scotia. She was gracious enough to buy the will copy, brought it over.....and Bob's your uncle. I would hate to see you have to travel to Canada just to do something that should be oh so simple. Problem in the US is that their banking system isn't exactly the most sophisticated in the world. You should have emigrated to Canada <LOL!!!!!!>. Cheers Paul ----- Original Message ----- From: <maaisha@aol.com> To: <eng-black-country@rootsweb.com> Sent: Tuesday, November 22, 2011 12:57 PM Subject: Re: [Black Country] Paying in pounds from the U.S. > Oh, fudge! Western Union can't issue a money order in pounds, but can > deliver it to a bank account. The Probate Registry says they cannot be > reached by phone, so to write them with questions. No bank account > numbers given. Even if I had their account numbers, I'm told I would have > to call that bank to see what they charge for cashing such money orders. > So Western Union is out. The Post Office in Windsor, Canada says they > issue money orders in Canadian and American money only. Looks like I'm > back to square one. They could surely collect more money if they allowed > credit or debit cards. > Have fallen down the rabbit hole, > Lois > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: Paul Smith <mowbray@dal.ca> > To: eng-black-country <eng-black-country@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Tue, Nov 22, 2011 6:43 am > Subject: Re: [Black Country] Paying in pounds from the U.S. > > > Let me know how you make out. > > Cheers > > Paul > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: <maaisha@aol.com> > To: <eng-black-country@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Tuesday, November 22, 2011 12:22 PM > Subject: Re: [Black Country] Paying in pounds from the U.S. > > >> Thank you, Paul. I am trying Western Union now. Easier than a trip >> across the bridge. Maybe this wasn't as difficult as I thought. Thank >> you! >> Sincerely, >> Lois >> >> >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: Paul Smith <mowbray@dal.ca> >> To: eng-black-country <eng-black-country@rootsweb.com> >> Sent: Tue, Nov 22, 2011 6:02 am >> Subject: Re: [Black Country] Paying in pounds from the U.S. >> >> >> Have you considered trying Western Union? They have offices in the UK and >> this is probably acceptable for the agency you are dealing with in the >> US. >> You can purchase your transfer in US dollars. >> >> Cheers >> >> Paul >> >> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: <maaisha@aol.com> >> To: <eng-black-country@rootsweb.com> >> Sent: Tuesday, November 22, 2011 11:43 AM >> Subject: [Black Country] Paying in pounds from the U.S. >> >> >>> Hi All, >>> I am trying to order a will and it seems there is no chance of paying >>> with a credit or debit card. They want a crossed check in pounds or an >>> international money order. The post office here sells international >>> money >>> orders, but only for Canada and Mexico. Has anyone mastered this sort >>> of >>> thing? Not sure what to do. My bank cannot help. >>> Frustrated, >>> Lois in Michigan >>> ------------------------------------- >>> The only List that specifically covers the whole of the Black Country. >>> Run >>> by Black Country folk who were born and still live in the area. >>> ****************************** >>> ATTENTION TO ALL:- When replying please remove the details that do not >>> apply to your mail and change the SUBJECT LINE for best useage of >>> ARCHIVED >>> MATERIALS. >>> ------------------------------- >>> >>> ------------------------------- >>> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >>> ENG-BLACK-COUNTRY-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' >>> without >>> the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >>> >>> >> >> ------------------------------------- >> The only List that specifically covers the whole of the Black Country. >> Run >> by >> Black Country folk who were born and still live in the area. >> ****************************** >> ATTENTION TO ALL:- When replying please remove the details that do not >> apply to >> your mail and change the SUBJECT LINE for best useage of ARCHIVED >> MATERIALS. >> ------------------------------- >> >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> ENG-BLACK-COUNTRY-request@rootsweb.com >> with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the >> body >> of >> the message >> >> >> ------------------------------------- >> The only List that specifically covers the whole of the Black Country. >> Run >> by Black Country folk who were born and still live in the area. >> ****************************** >> ATTENTION TO ALL:- When replying please remove the details that do not >> apply to your mail and change the SUBJECT LINE for best useage of >> ARCHIVED >> MATERIALS. >> ------------------------------- >> >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> ENG-BLACK-COUNTRY-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' >> without >> the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >> >> > > ------------------------------------- > The only List that specifically covers the whole of the Black Country. 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Let me know how you make out. Cheers Paul ----- Original Message ----- From: <maaisha@aol.com> To: <eng-black-country@rootsweb.com> Sent: Tuesday, November 22, 2011 12:22 PM Subject: Re: [Black Country] Paying in pounds from the U.S. > Thank you, Paul. I am trying Western Union now. Easier than a trip > across the bridge. Maybe this wasn't as difficult as I thought. Thank > you! > Sincerely, > Lois > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: Paul Smith <mowbray@dal.ca> > To: eng-black-country <eng-black-country@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Tue, Nov 22, 2011 6:02 am > Subject: Re: [Black Country] Paying in pounds from the U.S. > > > Have you considered trying Western Union? They have offices in the UK and > this is probably acceptable for the agency you are dealing with in the US. > You can purchase your transfer in US dollars. > > Cheers > > Paul > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: <maaisha@aol.com> > To: <eng-black-country@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Tuesday, November 22, 2011 11:43 AM > Subject: [Black Country] Paying in pounds from the U.S. > > >> Hi All, >> I am trying to order a will and it seems there is no chance of paying >> with a credit or debit card. They want a crossed check in pounds or an >> international money order. The post office here sells international >> money >> orders, but only for Canada and Mexico. Has anyone mastered this sort of >> thing? Not sure what to do. My bank cannot help. >> Frustrated, >> Lois in Michigan >> ------------------------------------- >> The only List that specifically covers the whole of the Black Country. >> Run >> by Black Country folk who were born and still live in the area. >> ****************************** >> ATTENTION TO ALL:- When replying please remove the details that do not >> apply to your mail and change the SUBJECT LINE for best useage of >> ARCHIVED >> MATERIALS. >> ------------------------------- >> >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> ENG-BLACK-COUNTRY-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' >> without >> the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >> >> > > ------------------------------------- > The only List that specifically covers the whole of the Black Country. Run > by > Black Country folk who were born and still live in the area. > ****************************** > ATTENTION TO ALL:- When replying please remove the details that do not > apply to > your mail and change the SUBJECT LINE for best useage of ARCHIVED > MATERIALS. > ------------------------------- > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > ENG-BLACK-COUNTRY-request@rootsweb.com > with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body > of > the message > > > ------------------------------------- > The only List that specifically covers the whole of the Black Country. Run > by Black Country folk who were born and still live in the area. > ****************************** > ATTENTION TO ALL:- When replying please remove the details that do not > apply to your mail and change the SUBJECT LINE for best useage of ARCHIVED > MATERIALS. > ------------------------------- > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > ENG-BLACK-COUNTRY-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without > the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > >

Oops! My mistake...going the other way......try Western Union. as there are Western Union Offices in the UK. So you might be able to your make purchase in UK pounds. Must have taken my stupid pill today rather than the smart pill <LOL>. Cheers Paul ----- Original Message ----- From: <maaisha@aol.com> To: <eng-black-country@rootsweb.com> Sent: Tuesday, November 22, 2011 11:43 AM Subject: [Black Country] Paying in pounds from the U.S. > Hi All, > I am trying to order a will and it seems there is no chance of paying > with a credit or debit card. They want a crossed check in pounds or an > international money order. The post office here sells international money > orders, but only for Canada and Mexico. Has anyone mastered this sort of > thing? Not sure what to do. My bank cannot help. > Frustrated, > Lois in Michigan > ------------------------------------- > The only List that specifically covers the whole of the Black Country. Run > by Black Country folk who were born and still live in the area. > ****************************** > ATTENTION TO ALL:- When replying please remove the details that do not > apply to your mail and change the SUBJECT LINE for best useage of ARCHIVED > MATERIALS. > ------------------------------- > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > ENG-BLACK-COUNTRY-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without > the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > >

Have you considered trying Western Union? They have offices in the UK and this is probably acceptable for the agency you are dealing with in the US. You can purchase your transfer in US dollars. Cheers Paul ----- Original Message ----- From: <maaisha@aol.com> To: <eng-black-country@rootsweb.com> Sent: Tuesday, November 22, 2011 11:43 AM Subject: [Black Country] Paying in pounds from the U.S. > Hi All, > I am trying to order a will and it seems there is no chance of paying > with a credit or debit card. They want a crossed check in pounds or an > international money order. The post office here sells international money > orders, but only for Canada and Mexico. Has anyone mastered this sort of > thing? Not sure what to do. My bank cannot help. > Frustrated, > Lois in Michigan > ------------------------------------- > The only List that specifically covers the whole of the Black Country. Run > by Black Country folk who were born and still live in the area. > ****************************** > ATTENTION TO ALL:- When replying please remove the details that do not > apply to your mail and change the SUBJECT LINE for best useage of ARCHIVED > MATERIALS. > ------------------------------- > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > ENG-BLACK-COUNTRY-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without > the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > >

Oh, fudge! Western Union can't issue a money order in pounds, but can deliver it to a bank account. The Probate Registry says they cannot be reached by phone, so to write them with questions. No bank account numbers given. Even if I had their account numbers, I'm told I would have to call that bank to see what they charge for cashing such money orders. So Western Union is out. The Post Office in Windsor, Canada says they issue money orders in Canadian and American money only. Looks like I'm back to square one. They could surely collect more money if they allowed credit or debit cards. Have fallen down the rabbit hole, Lois -----Original Message----- From: Paul Smith <mowbray@dal.ca> To: eng-black-country <eng-black-country@rootsweb.com> Sent: Tue, Nov 22, 2011 6:43 am Subject: Re: [Black Country] Paying in pounds from the U.S. Let me know how you make out. Cheers Paul ----- Original Message ----- From: <maaisha@aol.com> To: <eng-black-country@rootsweb.com> Sent: Tuesday, November 22, 2011 12:22 PM Subject: Re: [Black Country] Paying in pounds from the U.S. > Thank you, Paul. I am trying Western Union now. Easier than a trip > across the bridge. Maybe this wasn't as difficult as I thought. Thank > you! > Sincerely, > Lois > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: Paul Smith <mowbray@dal.ca> > To: eng-black-country <eng-black-country@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Tue, Nov 22, 2011 6:02 am > Subject: Re: [Black Country] Paying in pounds from the U.S. > > > Have you considered trying Western Union? They have offices in the UK and > this is probably acceptable for the agency you are dealing with in the US. > You can purchase your transfer in US dollars. > > Cheers > > Paul > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: <maaisha@aol.com> > To: <eng-black-country@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Tuesday, November 22, 2011 11:43 AM > Subject: [Black Country] Paying in pounds from the U.S. > > >> Hi All, >> I am trying to order a will and it seems there is no chance of paying >> with a credit or debit card. They want a crossed check in pounds or an >> international money order. The post office here sells international >> money >> orders, but only for Canada and Mexico. Has anyone mastered this sort of >> thing? Not sure what to do. My bank cannot help. >> Frustrated, >> Lois in Michigan >> ------------------------------------- >> The only List that specifically covers the whole of the Black Country. >> Run >> by Black Country folk who were born and still live in the area. >> ****************************** >> ATTENTION TO ALL:- When replying please remove the details that do not >> apply to your mail and change the SUBJECT LINE for best useage of >> ARCHIVED >> MATERIALS. >> ------------------------------- >> >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> ENG-BLACK-COUNTRY-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' >> without >> the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >> >> > > ------------------------------------- > The only List that specifically covers the whole of the Black Country. Run > by > Black Country folk who were born and still live in the area. > ****************************** > ATTENTION TO ALL:- When replying please remove the details that do not > apply to > your mail and change the SUBJECT LINE for best useage of ARCHIVED > MATERIALS. > ------------------------------- > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > ENG-BLACK-COUNTRY-request@rootsweb.com > with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body > of > the message > > > ------------------------------------- > The only List that specifically covers the whole of the Black Country. Run > by Black Country folk who were born and still live in the area. > ****************************** > ATTENTION TO ALL:- When replying please remove the details that do not > apply to your mail and change the SUBJECT LINE for best useage of ARCHIVED > MATERIALS. > ------------------------------- > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > ENG-BLACK-COUNTRY-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without > the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > ------------------------------------- The only List that specifically covers the whole of the Black Country. Run by Black Country folk who were born and still live in the area. ****************************** ATTENTION TO ALL:- When replying please remove the details that do not apply to your mail and change the SUBJECT LINE for best useage of ARCHIVED MATERIALS. ------------------------------- ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to ENG-BLACK-COUNTRY-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Thank you, Paul. I am trying Western Union now. Easier than a trip across the bridge. Maybe this wasn't as difficult as I thought. Thank you! Sincerely, Lois -----Original Message----- From: Paul Smith <mowbray@dal.ca> To: eng-black-country <eng-black-country@rootsweb.com> Sent: Tue, Nov 22, 2011 6:02 am Subject: Re: [Black Country] Paying in pounds from the U.S. Have you considered trying Western Union? They have offices in the UK and this is probably acceptable for the agency you are dealing with in the US. You can purchase your transfer in US dollars. Cheers Paul ----- Original Message ----- From: <maaisha@aol.com> To: <eng-black-country@rootsweb.com> Sent: Tuesday, November 22, 2011 11:43 AM Subject: [Black Country] Paying in pounds from the U.S. > Hi All, > I am trying to order a will and it seems there is no chance of paying > with a credit or debit card. They want a crossed check in pounds or an > international money order. The post office here sells international money > orders, but only for Canada and Mexico. Has anyone mastered this sort of > thing? Not sure what to do. My bank cannot help. > Frustrated, > Lois in Michigan > ------------------------------------- > The only List that specifically covers the whole of the Black Country. Run > by Black Country folk who were born and still live in the area. > ****************************** > ATTENTION TO ALL:- When replying please remove the details that do not > apply to your mail and change the SUBJECT LINE for best useage of ARCHIVED > MATERIALS. > ------------------------------- > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > ENG-BLACK-COUNTRY-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without > the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > ------------------------------------- The only List that specifically covers the whole of the Black Country. Run by Black Country folk who were born and still live in the area. ****************************** ATTENTION TO ALL:- When replying please remove the details that do not apply to your mail and change the SUBJECT LINE for best useage of ARCHIVED MATERIALS. ------------------------------- ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to ENG-BLACK-COUNTRY-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Lois, If you live near the Canadian border, go to a Canadian post office, in Windsor, Sarnia, Ontario and get a postal money order in English sterling. Canadian post offices sell money orders in Canadian, American and British money. Gord Pace in Ontario On 2011-11-22, at 10:43 AM, maaisha@aol.com wrote: > Hi All, > I am trying to order a will and it seems there is no chance of paying with a credit or debit card. They want a crossed check in pounds or an international money order. The post office here sells international money orders, but only for Canada and Mexico. Has anyone mastered this sort of thing? Not sure what to do. My bank cannot help. > Frustrated, > Lois in Michigan > ------------------------------------- > The only List that specifically covers the whole of the Black Country. Run by Black Country folk who were born and still live in the area. > ****************************** > ATTENTION TO ALL:- When replying please remove the details that do not apply to your mail and change the SUBJECT LINE for best useage of ARCHIVED MATERIALS. > ------------------------------- > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to ENG-BLACK-COUNTRY-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Hi All, I am trying to order a will and it seems there is no chance of paying with a credit or debit card. They want a crossed check in pounds or an international money order. The post office here sells international money orders, but only for Canada and Mexico. Has anyone mastered this sort of thing? Not sure what to do. My bank cannot help. Frustrated, Lois in Michigan

John and all those o0thers who replied. Appreciate your guidance, thanks very much. Rob Halesowen -----Original Message----- From: eng-black-country-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:eng-black-country-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of John Bland Sent: 16 November 2011 22:00 To: mjflists@yahoo.co.uk; eng-black-country@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [Black Country] Point me in the right direction Indeed Family History Societies are the best resource as Registers are transcribed by volunteers who either live in or know the area. This minimises the risk of inaccuracies, but it does not rule it out entirely. However, you should always check the original record if possible. Increasingly County archives are digitising records so it is a case of keep an eye on developments. There are however more Societies than shown on the Genealogist! The primary source in tracking down a Family History Society must be the Federation of Family History Societies http://www.ffhs.org.uk/members2/contacting.php An alternative to ancestry is Find My Past http://www.findmypast.co.uk/home.jsp as they are now host transcriptions of FFHS member Societies that were previously on Family History Online. See http://www.findmypast.co.uk/search/parish-records/baptisms for details of what is available and the contributing Society. John R G Bland Spalding Member of the Lincolnshire Family History Society www.lincolnshirefhs.org.uk/ Reg. Charity No 1000724 > -----Original Message----- > From: eng-black-country-bounces@rootsweb.com > [mailto:eng-black-country- bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Mike in > Droitwich > Sent: 16 November 2011 12:43 > To: eng-black-country@rootsweb.com > Subject: Re: [Black Country] Point me in the right direction > > > Hi Rob > > The best people for PR transcription are that area Family History > Society or the Local History Society for the parish concerned. Also > try FreeREG. > > Are the parishes you are interested in listed in > http://www.thegenealogist.co.uk/nameindex/ai_content.php?type=diamond& > show > _cat=9#coverage_table > and if so do they cover the time period you are interested in. > > Mike Fisher in Droitwich > my family tree http://mjfisher.tribalpages.com > > Rob Griffin wrote: > > Linda > > > > I have recently subscribed to Ancestry and a little disappointed > > that > their > > Parish Records are not as extensive as I would like. Are the records > > in > The > > Genealogist a vast improvement or just slightly better? > > > > Rob > > Halesowen > ------------------------------------- > The only List that specifically covers the whole of the Black Country. > Run by Black Country folk who were born and still live in the area. > ****************************** > ATTENTION TO ALL:- When replying please remove the details that do not > apply to your mail and change the SUBJECT LINE for best useage of > ARCHIVED MATERIALS. > ------------------------------- > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > ENG-BLACK-COUNTRY- request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' > without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ------------------------------------- The only List that specifically covers the whole of the Black Country. Run by Black Country folk who were born and still live in the area. ****************************** ATTENTION TO ALL:- When replying please remove the details that do not apply to your mail and change the SUBJECT LINE for best useage of ARCHIVED MATERIALS. ------------------------------- ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to ENG-BLACK-COUNTRY-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Hi Geoff, Wood Green Cemetery was indeed "tidied up" a year or so ago. Records of burials here are held at Sandwell Archives (in Smethwick Library), though these don't include an actual cemetery plan. For each burial record, however, there is a section letter, row, and plot number given which accords with a number that was attached to the individual grave - so husbands and wives appearing in the burial register with the same plot number would have been buried in the same grave. I suspect there is a cemetery plan with all these section and plot numbers marked on it, held by the relevant department of Sandwell Council. I did however recently manage to work out the hard way exactly where four of my gt grandparents and two of my gt gt grandparents are buried at Wood Green, without having recourse to a cemetery plan, by going and checking against the numbers I could see on surviving grave markers, which are mostly still in their original rows. I'd previously had no knowledge of whether any headstones survived or even ever existed for these ancestors of mine. Luckily, I found one for my gt gt grandparents Charles and Sarah Ann Higgs, who died in the 1920's, still in reasonable condition, with a readable inscription. No markers now exist for my gt grandparents, but from following the numbers on surviving graves nearby, I could locate the positions of the plots where they were buried, and was able to take photographs for future reference. Hoping this may be of help Carl

I enquired at the local authority, which was Wolverhampton. One of the ladies from that department went out to the cemetry the day I was visiting and placed small flags on the plots. Although there was no visible sign of any grave I was able to pay my respects. I also took photographs of the area so I know for next time I visit. The gentleman looking after the graves also said if I took along some bulbs he would plant them on the graves. Paul

The local authority should have details of grave locations. I applied for info at Lodge Hill cemetery Brum and they came back with all the necessary details. In my case it was possible to apply directly to the cemetery bob holmes On 17/11/2011 16:44, Geoff Allen wrote: > My Mom-in-Law asked me to take her to Wood Green Cemetery in Wednesbury > earlier today. Fortunately she knew where the grave she wanted to visit > was, but I also have a number of relatives who are buried there and > started to think about trying to find their graves (assuming of course > that they still exist, it was clear a number of gravestones etc. have > been removed, I assume for Health and Safety reasons). > > So, my question is, where do I start in trying to find where my > relatives are laid to rest? Does anyone know if any cemetery plans exist > detailing who is laid to rest in each plot, and if so where are these > kept or are they available on-line (I don't hold out much hope of this)? > > Any help and/or advice would be much appreciated, as always many thanks > to anyone who can help. (Hopefully answers may also assist others in a > similar predicament). > > Regards, > > Geoff > ------------------------------------- > The only List that specifically covers the whole of the Black Country. Run by Black Country folk who were born and still live in the area. > ****************************** > ATTENTION TO ALL:- When replying please remove the details that do not apply to your mail and change the SUBJECT LINE for best useage of ARCHIVED MATERIALS. > ------------------------------- > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to ENG-BLACK-COUNTRY-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

My Mom-in-Law asked me to take her to Wood Green Cemetery in Wednesbury earlier today. Fortunately she knew where the grave she wanted to visit was, but I also have a number of relatives who are buried there and started to think about trying to find their graves (assuming of course that they still exist, it was clear a number of gravestones etc. have been removed, I assume for Health and Safety reasons). So, my question is, where do I start in trying to find where my relatives are laid to rest? Does anyone know if any cemetery plans exist detailing who is laid to rest in each plot, and if so where are these kept or are they available on-line (I don't hold out much hope of this)? Any help and/or advice would be much appreciated, as always many thanks to anyone who can help. (Hopefully answers may also assist others in a similar predicament). Regards, Geoff

Hi Geoff: I had some real luck several years ago in tracing some of my Tonks. I had indications that my g-grandfather and g-grandmother were buried in Yardely Cemetery. A cousin of mine went directly there and conferred with the local cemetery staff of the parish. They had good plot records and were able to direct her to the family site. Even though only my g-grandfather and g-grandmother were listed on the stone staff were able to inform my cousin several of their children were also interred there and they provided names DOBs and dates of death. Indeed this was so successful that my cousin & I were able to discover other living relatives of whom we had no knowledge........and is that an interesting story. My cousin when she visited the site found a recently laid wreath. We left a written message and several months later were contacted by our first cousin once removed. This led to other relatives and more family history. Assuming that Wood Green is an active cemetary is it possible to contact the parish to see what they might have in the way of cemtetary records? Cheers Paul ----- Original Message ----- From: "Geoff Allen" <geoff.allen@blueyonder.co.uk> To: <eng-black-country@rootsweb.com> Sent: Thursday, November 17, 2011 12:44 PM Subject: [Black Country] Wood Green Cemetery, Wednesbury > My Mom-in-Law asked me to take her to Wood Green Cemetery in Wednesbury > earlier today. Fortunately she knew where the grave she wanted to visit > was, but I also have a number of relatives who are buried there and > started to think about trying to find their graves (assuming of course > that they still exist, it was clear a number of gravestones etc. have > been removed, I assume for Health and Safety reasons). > > So, my question is, where do I start in trying to find where my > relatives are laid to rest? Does anyone know if any cemetery plans exist > detailing who is laid to rest in each plot, and if so where are these > kept or are they available on-line (I don't hold out much hope of this)? > > Any help and/or advice would be much appreciated, as always many thanks > to anyone who can help. (Hopefully answers may also assist others in a > similar predicament). > > Regards, > > Geoff > ------------------------------------- > The only List that specifically covers the whole of the Black Country. Run > by Black Country folk who were born and still live in the area. > ****************************** > ATTENTION TO ALL:- When replying please remove the details that do not > apply to your mail and change the SUBJECT LINE for best useage of ARCHIVED > MATERIALS. > ------------------------------- > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > ENG-BLACK-COUNTRY-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without > the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > >