Merry Christmas to all from South Yorkshire. Hope all your brickwalls fall down in 2012 and Health & Happiness to you and yours. Cheers, Yorkie

Merry Christmas to Dave and thanks for all that you do to mke the list happen for us. Cassy, I hope you have got some tinsel on your wheel chair, lol Cheers Val

Hi Dave & Cassy, A Very Happy Christmas to you both and to all on the list. Let's hope that 2012 is a happier year for us all. Best wishes from Maurice at The LONGMORE Pages http://www.msheppard.com ----- Original Message ----- From: "cassy franklin" <cassyfranklin@yahoo.com> To: <eng-black-country@rootsweb.com> Sent: Wednesday, December 21, 2011 8:32 PM Subject: [Black Country] CHRISTMAS TOAST non Gem > Hi All > Has we have not had our Christmas do , Dave and I are asking > everyone to have a toast on Friday night to everyone on the list > and to pass member's we have sadly lost > So PLEASE raise your glasses at 10 0.clock Friday night UK time > With luck we will have our Christmas do next year > Has some of you will know I had an op September am still in a wheel > chair but managing to get about a bit more now ,but was really looking > forward to running over Dave's feet with my wheel chair but sadly it > didn't happen(vbg) to Dave-s delight > A Happy Christmas and New Year to Everyone and lets find our long > lost rellies next Year > Dave and Cassy > ------------------------------------- > The only List that specifically covers the whole of the Black Country. Run > by Black Country folk who were born and still live in the area. > ****************************** > ATTENTION TO ALL:- When replying please remove the details that do not > apply to your mail and change the SUBJECT LINE for best useage of ARCHIVED > MATERIALS. > ------------------------------- > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > ENG-BLACK-COUNTRY-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without > the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

Hi folks I would like to wish Cassy and all Black Country listers a very Happy and Peaceful Christmas and a new year that is full of discoveries. Season's greetings from Northern Ireland. Talk to you soon, Bill ______________________________________________ This email has been scanned by Westcoastcloud. http://www.westcoastcloud.com/

Hi List Am I correct in thinking that Parish Registers for Plymouth pre 1837 are now on line with FMP or Ancestry. Thanks, Paul

Hi Folks: A toast at that time is 2 am for us. We'll do this at a more decent time....say 10 am Xmas Eve morning. Have the bubbly all ready to go. Merry Christmas from all of us here in Queensland Nova Scotia. Cheers Paul ----- Original Message ----- From: "cassy franklin" <cassyfranklin@yahoo.com> To: <eng-black-country@rootsweb.com> Sent: Wednesday, December 21, 2011 2:32 PM Subject: [Black Country] CHRISTMAS TOAST non Gem > Hi All > Has we have not had our Christmas do , Dave and I are asking > everyone to have a toast on Friday night to everyone on the list > and to pass member's we have sadly lost > So PLEASE raise your glasses at 10 0.clock Friday night UK time > With luck we will have our Christmas do next year > Has some of you will know I had an op September am still in a wheel > chair but managing to get about a bit more now ,but was really looking > forward to running over Dave's feet with my wheel chair but sadly it > didn't happen(vbg) to Dave-s delight > A Happy Christmas and New Year to Everyone and lets find our long > lost rellies next Year > Dave and Cassy > ------------------------------------- > The only List that specifically covers the whole of the Black Country. Run > by Black Country folk who were born and still live in the area. > ****************************** > ATTENTION TO ALL:- When replying please remove the details that do not > apply to your mail and change the SUBJECT LINE for best useage of ARCHIVED > MATERIALS. > ------------------------------- > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > ENG-BLACK-COUNTRY-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without > the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > >

Will Do ... Cheers to all Friday night at 10 pm UK time. Jane Clarke Wettstone in Pennsylvania, USA

Cassie & Dave,   Merry Christmas and a Happy New Year to you both and to all the members on the list.  I will join you in the Toast Friday night.   Cheers!   Nancy USA ________________________________ From: "eng-black-country-request@rootsweb.com" <eng-black-country-request@rootsweb.com> To: eng-black-country@rootsweb.com Sent: Wednesday, December 21, 2011 4:23 PM Subject: ENG-BLACK-COUNTRY Digest, Vol 6, Issue 227

Aileen: I'm not quite clear what you are looking for. If you have the marriage entry in 1845 that will give the names of the fathers, which takes you further back. Paul On 21 December 2011 11:08, A durn <rosableu08@yahoo.co.uk> wrote: > I have my brick wall in Halesowen this is my couple > >     MARY MILES     to John PORTMAN >       Marriage: > 24 DEC 1845       Ombersley, Worcester, England > > if anyone can connect to this family or can help > to find information > all help gratefully received > > aileen > > > ------------------------------------- > The only List that specifically covers the whole of the Black Country. Run by Black Country folk who were born and still live in the area. > ****************************** > ATTENTION TO ALL:- When replying please remove the details that do not apply to your mail and change the SUBJECT LINE for best useage of ARCHIVED MATERIALS. > ------------------------------- > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to ENG-BLACK-COUNTRY-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Aileen Had a look at Halesowen parish register, which you may have already checked, but maybe this is of some help? 23 Mar 1807 - William PORTMAN m. Martha NICKELS, witnesses Thos NICKELS & Mary NICKELS 20 Aug 1821 William MILES m. Hannah MORE, witnesses Andrew MILES & Deriate (?) COLLINS 25 Aug 1822 Robert MILES m. Mary Ann BROOM, witnesses James MILES & Esther MILES 19 Aug 1828 James GREEN m. Martha MILES, witnesses William MOBBERLEY & Nancy MUMFORD 28 Dec 1828 Thomas MIL (?) widower m. Sarah ROWLEY, witnesses Steven Green & Elizabeth SIMCOX. Rob G Halesowen -----Original Message----- From: eng-black-country-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:eng-black-country-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of A durn Sent: 21 December 2011 11:09 To: eng-black-country@rootsweb.com Subject: [Black Country] looking for PORTMAN and MILES I have my brick wall in Halesowen this is my couple     MARY MILES     to John PORTMAN       Marriage: 24 DEC 1845       Ombersley, Worcester, England if anyone can connect to this family or can help to find information all help gratefully received aileen ------------------------------------- The only List that specifically covers the whole of the Black Country. Run by Black Country folk who were born and still live in the area. ****************************** ATTENTION TO ALL:- When replying please remove the details that do not apply to your mail and change the SUBJECT LINE for best useage of ARCHIVED MATERIALS. ------------------------------- ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to ENG-BLACK-COUNTRY-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

I have my brick wall in Halesowen this is my couple     MARY MILES     to John PORTMAN       Marriage:      24 DEC 1845       Ombersley, Worcester, England if anyone can connect to this family or can help to find information all help gratefully received aileen

Hi All Has we have not had our Christmas do , Dave and I are asking everyone to have a toast on Friday night to everyone on the list and to pass member's we have sadly lost So PLEASE raise your glasses at 10 0.clock Friday night UK time With luck we will have our Christmas do next year Has some of you will know I had an op September am still in a wheel chair but managing to get about a bit more now ,but was really looking forward to running over Dave's feet with my wheel chair but sadly it didn't happen(vbg) to Dave-s delight A Happy Christmas and New Year to Everyone and lets find our long lost rellies next Year Dave and Cassy

Many thanks Cassy, and for all the hard work that you do throughout the year to make this list possible. Happy and peaceful Christmas to you and a happy, healthy, prosperous New Year. Val

Sorry, should have said in my last message that the batter colouring CONTAINED saltpetre. ----- Original Message ----- From: "J langdell" <jlangdell@supanet.com> To: <eng-black-country@rootsweb.com> Sent: Tuesday, December 20, 2011 1:45 PM Subject: Re: [Black Country] Batter mix > Hello Pat, > > I'm pretty sure it was called saltpetre. My Mom used to use it as well. > It > was sold either in Boots the Chemist or Timothy, Whites & Taylor in > Dudley. > > It was discontinued because of health reasons. I suppose it was used as > it > would have been cheaper than using eggs. > > Regards > Jean > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: <MOUSENGROUSE@aol.com> > To: <ENG-BLACK-COUNTRY-L@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Monday, December 19, 2011 7:10 PM > Subject: [Black Country] Batter mix > > >> Hi folks >> >> A few years ago ( a good many actually) my mother would mix some flour >> and >> water to make batter for fish or scallops. She used to colour it with >> batter colouring. >> >> Does anyone have any idea what was used as the colouring? As I recall, >> water was mxed with an orangey coloured powder which was obtained from >> the >> chemist at the bottom of News Street, at the junction with the High >> street, >> West Bromwich. >> >> I think the chemist was called Bell and Jones. >> >> For some reason, it was discontinued, I seem to think there was some sort >> of health risk attached to it. >> >> . >> Pat Allen (Leicestershire)

Hello Pat, I'm pretty sure it was called saltpetre. My Mom used to use it as well. It was sold either in Boots the Chemist or Timothy, Whites & Taylor in Dudley. It was discontinued because of health reasons. I suppose it was used as it would have been cheaper than using eggs. Regards Jean ----- Original Message ----- From: <MOUSENGROUSE@aol.com> To: <ENG-BLACK-COUNTRY-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Monday, December 19, 2011 7:10 PM Subject: [Black Country] Batter mix > Hi folks > > A few years ago ( a good many actually) my mother would mix some flour and > water to make batter for fish or scallops. She used to colour it with > batter colouring. > > Does anyone have any idea what was used as the colouring? As I recall, > water was mxed with an orangey coloured powder which was obtained from > the > chemist at the bottom of News Street, at the junction with the High > street, > West Bromwich. > > I think the chemist was called Bell and Jones. > > For some reason, it was discontinued, I seem to think there was some sort > of health risk attached to it. > > . > Pat Allen (Leicestershire)

Hi again to everyone. Many thanks for all who have replied about my query about batter colouring. I am not surprised that it was withdrawn from sale for containing saltpetre. Wow! Those were meals which could have gone with a 'bang'. I felt sure that my mom had said there was some health reason it wasn't available any more. That's my lesson for today, and once again, many thanks to everyone. Best wishes Pat Allen in Leicestershire.

Hi All The Staffs BMD has been updated with the following records .... Deaths: 4,069 for Rugeley, registers at Newcastle-Under-Lyme (1870-1894) Births: 12,479 for Uttoxeter, registers at East Staffordshire (1837-1892) regards Bill ======================================================================== The Staffordshire BMD can be found at http://www.staffordshirebmd.org.uk and the West Midlands BMD at http://www.westmidlandsbmd.org.uk

Saltpetre is one of the constituents of gunpowder, so I reckon it would affect your health <bg> Yorkie

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If you use eggs to make the batter, then you don't need colour - that sounds like a "measure" left over from the times of rationing? Polly ----- Original Message ----- From: "David Allen" <allen1610@hotmail.co.uk> To: <eng-black-country@rootsweb.com> Sent: Monday, December 19, 2011 7:34 PM Subject: Re: [Black Country] Batter mix Hi Pat Not sure but we used to use "egg colour" in the bakery trade, it was an orangey powder and watered down gave a rich yellow colour like egg yolks. I believe that also has faded from use. I tend to use yellow colour (from most supermarkets). I would imagine the result should be similar. Kind regards Dave Regards David Allen Tech. I.O.S.H; Cert. NEBOSH CIEH Registered trainer; AM IfLMember Association of First Aiders T 01472 429 392 M 07950 833 609 E allen1610@hotmail.co.uk > From: MOUSENGROUSE@aol.com > Date: Mon, 19 Dec 2011 14:10:36 -0500 > To: ENG-BLACK-COUNTRY-L@rootsweb.com > Subject: [Black Country] Batter mix > > Hi folks > > A few years ago ( a good many actually) my mother would mix some flour and > water to make batter for fish or scallops. She used to colour it with > batter colouring. > > Does anyone have any idea what was used as the colouring? As I recall, > water was mxed with an orangey coloured powder which was obtained from > the > chemist at the bottom of News Street, at the junction with the High > street, > West Bromwich. > > I think the chemist was called Bell and Jones. > > For some reason, it was discontinued, I seem to think there was some sort > of health risk attached to it. > > . > Pat Allen (Leicestershire) > > > Best wishes to all for Christmas and the New Year. > ------------------------------------- > The only List that specifically covers the whole of the Black Country. Run > by Black Country folk who were born and still live in the area. > ****************************** > ATTENTION TO ALL:- When replying please remove the details that do not > apply to your mail and change the SUBJECT LINE for best useage of ARCHIVED > MATERIALS. > ------------------------------- > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > ENG-BLACK-COUNTRY-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without > the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ------------------------------------- The only List that specifically covers the whole of the Black Country. Run by Black Country folk who were born and still live in the area. ****************************** ATTENTION TO ALL:- When replying please remove the details that do not apply to your mail and change the SUBJECT LINE for best useage of ARCHIVED MATERIALS. ------------------------------- ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to ENG-BLACK-COUNTRY-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message