When I wrote about Mr and Mrs Tickell I forgot to mention that they had a son called John Thomas! Or so I am reliably informed. Jim.

My interests in the midlands in C19 are:- MILLS Handsworth/Birmingham BARNETT Birmingham BOWDLER Great Wyrley BROADBENT Brewood/Wolverhampton BROTHERTON Wolverhampton CROCKETT Wolverhampton GLAZE Birmingham HAYWOOD Dudley/Birmingham/Staffordshire HODSON Willenhall KEMPSON Wolverhampton MULLER Handsworth PARSONS Birmingham PENDERED Birmingham SOLLIS Birmingham/Gloucestershire I would be pleased to hear from anyone interested in any of the above names. Barrie staffs

Hello Wendy, My Grandfather was married at the Trinity Church in Harbourne in 1892, after searching I found it was in Smethwick, Staffordshire. Hope this is of use to you. Regards, Keith.

Hi Keith It seemed has its by Dean Street Sedgley , clicked on goggle and it mentioned Old Priory Road Dean St and Abby St clicked on the link and it give me the history of All Saints Sedgley Sorry I cant find my A-Z but the kids have nicked it again Cassy ----- Original Message ----- From: "KEITH CHERRINGTON" <keith@brifo.fsnet.co.uk> To: <ENG-BLACK-COUNTRY-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Tuesday, March 14, 2006 5:36 PM Subject: [B.C.] The Priory > Hello all, > I have just received a Death Certificate for a distant > relative who died in 1881, aged 31years, > it states she died at 9 the Priory, Sedgley. > Can anyone advise what this building was, a home, > hospital, or a house etc ?? > > Any help on this would be very much appreciated. > Regards, Keith BC. > > > > > ==== ENG-BLACK-COUNTRY Mailing List ==== > The Assistant List Admins are Jean Morgan and Jan Ross > (Couldn't do it without those two great ladies) > > >

I am sorry to have taken so long to reply. In short no. Here is what I have. The location implies there is a common link but it predates my information. I have the following data on Westwoods. Samuel Westwood Labourer b Brockmoor estimated c1800 . He had children 1) Mary Anne Westwood b 1820, Married Joseph Hickman 24.11.1845 Mary Anne died 20.3.188? Married at St Mary's Kingswinford. Had 5 children. I have data on them. 2) Ephraim Westwood b 1826 d 29.7.1901 married Phoebe ? who was born 1827 and died 7.9.1908 at Russett or Russell Lane Brockmoor . I have no data on any children. My line follows the Hickman link. They were all Brockmoor and Bromley based, with a concentration on Bromley Lane which runs from Wordesley to Brockmoor. When the Earls of Dudley sold off land (Around Summerhills/ Summer House (?) estate,(known locally as "The Tump)) the later Hickman's (by then a big local builder)bought and developed it around 1936 plus/minus. Now 100% dense housing . Cheers Roger Thompson Pete Lamberg wrote: > Hi Roger, have you by any chance seen a Ruth Westwood born Bromley or > Brockmore 1819? I've never found her parents or baptism, thankyou. > > All best wishes from Linda. > > > >

Have been trying to track down my g g grandfather, Samuel ROLLINSON, who was b. ~1820, d. Oct 1887, buried in St Raymond's Catholic Church cemetery in Bronx, NY. He immigrated to US, New York City area, sometime before 1858, when he married Ellen Keegan, b. approx 1835 in Ireland, d. Feb 1880 in Yonkers, NY of typhoid fever. On the census here in US his occupation was listed as "scavenger". That's all I know about him, not where he was originally from, immigration date, family in England, where in England, etc. Thanks in advance for any info on this elusive person. Joy E. Bold in sunny Florida, US Joy Bold -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.385 / Virus Database: 268.2.4/282 - Release Date: 3/15/2006

Hi Listers, Pat, Gil, Ruth, Carl, Nick; Julie, Tony and all you who have helped me blast the brickwall. I understand that the census takers occasionally registered visiting relatives, especially youngsters, as servants? Jane (or is it Jake? hard to read) Parkes and Maria Murry may be examples from this (augmented) 1841 census: Also, would someone clarify the '41 census recording of age policy? Do they round adults age to nearest decade? I have George Cooper, 1st wife Abigail, 2nd wife Sarah in Bilston about 1815 to 1860. He was into coal & iron. 16+/- children including: George (age 50 '41 Census Bilston District 16 south side of Church St., page 1/39) occup. iron monger Sarah (age 30 '41 Census) George (1814 IGI), Mary Ann (1816 IGI?), Joseph (1818 IGI), William (1819 IGI) (1821 '41 Cens*), James abt 1821, George 1823? John 1825? Joseph (abt 1827 '41 Cens) Abigail (abt 1830 '41 Cens) Lila(Lala?) (abt 1832 '41 Cens) Thomas (abt 1834 '41 Cens) George (abt 1835 '41 Cens) Mary (abt 1837 '41 Cens) Samuel (abt 1838 '41 Cens) Ann (abt 1840 '41 Cens) Kinney / Henney (5 mos '41 Cens) Governess Martha Blinkshaw (age 20 '41 Cens), FS Maria Murry (age 22, '41 Cens), FS Jane/Jake Parkes age 13, '41 Cens). Any connections? Thank you all Bob Oceanside, Calif.

Marlene Jackson wrote: > Wendy, > From the replies you received to your STRINGER query, did you hear of a > STRINGER marying a John Henry Pix WESTON > c 1895 around Harbourne. Could someone tell me where harbourne is? > TIA > Marlene Jackson > Ontario, Canada > Hi Marlene... It's hard to tell someone where a place is that you know...here's a link to a Google map of Brum that shows Harborne to the west and south of the city centre: http://www.google.com/maps?ll=52.477135,-1.933594&spn=0.118147,0.273285 Cheers Phil in sunny Cape Breton -- Phil & Anne Irons, Sydney, Nova Scotia Remember: Professionals built the Titanic; an Amateur built the Ark!

Would SKS sho has access to the 1841 census, be kind enough to do a look up for me - SIMPSON According to the 1851 census my family is in the district of Dudley, town of Holly Hall. Mary SIMPSON Head Widow b. Delph, c. 1809 Thomas Son Patt. Maker b. Delph, c. 1832 Nancy Dau. b.Tipton, c. 1836 The above are my great-grandfather's family and I would like to know the name of the husband so that I can trace the family further (SIMPSON is quite a common name and to send for all the birth certificates for my great-grandfather would be an expensive excercise and I still would not know which was the right one). Sincere thanks in appreciation to anyone who is able to give me this information. Kind regards, Kerry from Queensland, Australia

My roll call is in part : GILL I have Mirah Gill who married Benjamin Thompson at The Parish Church Oldswinford 21.10.1863. Her father was Henry Gill - Engineer. Witness Sarah Jane Cornforth. I am looking for Mirah's line. I am also looking for Thompson, but will circulate the info that I have later. Family legend says Henry was a brass Founderer later on. No data. NORWOOD. I have Phoebe Norwood who was married Joseph Hickman (House painter) Wordesley 16.7.1871 d 23.8.1929. Phoebe could not write and left her mark on the Birth Certificate of Florence Augusta, one of her daughters. Florence was born in Brockmoor on 19.11.1874 . I have Phoebe's father Joseph Merrian Norwood b circa 1823 d 25.4.1886 who married Maria WOOD daughter of John WOOD b 1783 buried Brierly Hill Churchyard d 2.12.1856 My notes suggest that William WOOD, Marias elder brother b 1821 made money and ran a transport business including canal barges. The poor don't leave too many footprints, but William might have done. He lived at Brockmoor Cottage, Brockmoor. I am looking for both the NORWOOD and the WOOD lines. I would be grateful if anyone has crossed or followed these lines. Much of these data come from the late Rosemary Tillbrook. I have a lot more, but cant do too much too soon Cheers Roger Thompson

Wendy, From the replies you received to your STRINGER query, did you hear of a STRINGER marying a John Henry Pix WESTON c 1895 around Harbourne. Could someone tell me where harbourne is? TIA Marlene Jackson Ontario, Canada

Hello everyone My interests are: STEPHENS: Portobello- between Willenhall and Bilston moved to Perry Barr Staffs then Aston Warks. Name later changed to STEVENS c1880 Best wishes Maggs Water Orton, North Warks

BURY - Stourbridge, Droitwich, Martley BURRY - Kidderminster BURY - Birmingham TOLLEY - Clent, Worcestershire TWEED - Ashby, Cambridge - Hemel Hempstead MONK/MONKS - Droitwich Thanks

Hello Steph,could one of your latter ARNOLD's have been a policeman in the Birmingham area?, one Leo Arnold. Regards,Dave in Inskip. On 15/03/06, Steph Robinson <stephrobinson@blueyonder.co.uk> wrote: > > Hi all > > Here's my lot: > > ARNOLD Halesowen > ATTWOOD Rowley Regis > BARNSLEY Rowley Regis > BAYLISS Halesowen > BEASLEY Cradley > CHANDLER Halesowen > COPESTICK Birmingham > COX Cradley > CRAMPTON Cradley > CRUMPTON Halesowen > DUNN Dudley > FENDALL Cradley > FOREST Cradley > HAMPTON Netherton > HARPER Cradley > HARRIS Halesowen > HODGETTS Cradley > HOMER Cradley > > HOUGHTON Bromsgrove > INGRAM Halesowen > LOYNES Halesowen > PARKES Halesowen > PARSONS Halesowen > PEARSON Mushroom Green > POUND Shropsire > ROBINSON Cradley > SALT Halesowen > SMART Netherton > SOUTHALL Cradley > SOUTHWELL Halesowen > STOKES Kingswinford > VITCH Halesowen > WEBSTER Cradley > WHITE Halesowen > WORTON Cradley > > > New cousins most welcome.... > > Steph > > > ==== ENG-BLACK-COUNTRY Mailing List ==== > Wherever possible (except for personal messages) > please post replies to the list.Other people can learn from them! > > -- Sheffield Records Online http://www.sheffieldrecordsonline.org.uk Online Sheffield 1841,1861 census, trade directories,probate, message forum & more. If you are chasing your Ancestors round Sheffield---this is the place to be at.

Hi Listers My wife's 2 x Great Grandmother first name Fanny married a Richard GREEN so her married name was Fanny GREEN. Which reminds me of an old schoolboy joke... "Is that Fanny Green over there?" "No, it's the way the light is shining through the stained glass window!" Ian Ian Beach Bunbury, Western Australia ian@sedgleymanor.com Webmaster of "The Ancient Manor of Sedgley" in Staffordshire at http://www.sedgleymanor.com Listowner ENG-STS-SEDGLEY at http://lists.rootsweb.com/index/intl/ENG/ENG-STS-SEDGLEY.html Researching: Sedgley, Staffordshire : ADDIS(S), BEACH, CASWELL, GUTTERIDGE, HOPKINS, FLAVELL, MILLARD & TURLEY Darlaston, Staffordshire : FOSTER, ORME & YATES Shropshire : ADDIS(S), BEACH, CASWELL Mellie wrote: > Ther's a Fanny LURKIN in the churchyard at Hatton, Warwickshire!!! > > My partner reminds me of this each time we pass by the church. > > Rita > > I really am not going to g o there LOL but this is amusin the hell out > of me LOL > yes I know I am infantile, the problem is?????? > Mellie > How Come My Coat Of Arms Has Buckles At The Back? > > ==== ENG-BLACK-COUNTRY Mailing List ==== > The Assistant List Admins are Jean Morgan and Jan Ross > (Couldn't do it without those two great ladies) > > > > >

Hi, Reposting my surnames: EDWARDS, SWIFT, TRINDER, HORTON, ROBINSON, JONES, DARLEY, HIMAN, COLEY, BEVAN, ROGERS all in Dudley. KNOWLES in Netherton COX, JONES, ROUND, COOPER, FARMER, REYNOLDS, SILVER, WAINWRIGHT all in Brierley Hill / Kingswinford / Wordsley. FARMER in Arley Kings. HENDY, MARSH, EDWARDS, LANGFORD, LAPPAGE, GEE, EVANS, WHITEHOUSE, TUDOR all in Coseley, Tipton, Stafford, Longdon, Rugeley and Cheslyn Hay. Happy hunting. Kind regards, Linda.

Hi all Here's my lot: ARNOLD Halesowen ATTWOOD Rowley Regis BARNSLEY Rowley Regis BAYLISS Halesowen BEASLEY Cradley CHANDLER Halesowen COPESTICK Birmingham COX Cradley CRAMPTON Cradley CRUMPTON Halesowen DUNN Dudley FENDALL Cradley FOREST Cradley HAMPTON Netherton HARPER Cradley HARRIS Halesowen HODGETTS Cradley HOMER Cradley HOUGHTON Bromsgrove INGRAM Halesowen LOYNES Halesowen PARKES Halesowen PARSONS Halesowen PEARSON Mushroom Green POUND Shropsire ROBINSON Cradley SALT Halesowen SMART Netherton SOUTHALL Cradley SOUTHWELL Halesowen STOKES Kingswinford VITCH Halesowen WEBSTER Cradley WHITE Halesowen WORTON Cradley New cousins most welcome.... Steph

Hi, Looking in the List of Occupation it says: Cheese Factor / Cheeseman / Cheese Monger - dealer in cheeses. Hope this helps. Kind regards, Linda

Yes, I well remember a similar rhyme from my childhood days, although it went:- eeny meeny miny mo catch a n***er by his toe if he squeals let him go eeny meeny miny mo (better not type that naughty word in full!) I remember this one too:- if yower bob dont give ower bob the bob yower bob owes ower bob ower bob's gonna give yower bob a bob on the nose I also remember something about:- ........... is no good chop him up for firewood ........................... but can't remember the rest of the saying - certainly nothing to do with Stafford Jail. I was brought up in Birmingham, but my Grandad's family came from Cradley. And as for the Fanny issue - my great-aunt was registered in the name of Fanny, but was known as Auntie Fan. On her marriage and death certificates, she is shown as Frances. So, take your pick. Wendy X-Message: #24 Date: Tue, 14 Mar 2006 22:30:29 -0000 From: "LindaFH" <lindafh@blueyonder.co.uk> To: ENG-BLACK-COUNTRY-L@rootsweb.com Message-ID: <004e01c647b6$e6151880$6401a8c0@linda> Subject: Re: [B.C.] Stafford Jail saying Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=response Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sounds like a very similar to one from my childhood. They are all derivations of the same rhyme known nationwide: eeny meeny miny mo catch a german by his toe if he squeals pull his tail send him off to jerry jail Usually used in the playground to ascertain who was 'it'. Regards Linda Staffs UK Researching: Cook(e) Plant Mason Keys Pearsall and variants Broster Rastall Turner Smith Miller Morgan Simmons Baker

another reason to take pity on me? Ok then, how about I live next door to Mellie!!! c'mon that should be worth LOADS of pity! Jan she's a lucky woman ROTFLMFAO!! I'm moving my computer in the next week or so, jan and I will have "offices" next to each other we are thinking of cutting a hole in the wall to pass the cups of tea back and forth, LOL alternatievely everytime she screws up her puter I will be abe to lean through the hatch and fix it instead of having to go outside in me PJ's LOL or I could get a big stick and poke her with it LOL the possibilities are endless here LOL welcome to the mad house jan!! Mellie How Come My Coat Of Arms Has Buckles At The Back?