Yes, Yes, Yes! My gggrandfather Cornelius SIDAWAY was Thomas Bramhall SIDAWAY's brother. Would love to hear from you, Don. Alma Cobourg, Ontario -----Original Message----- From: Don Sidaway [mailto:donald@sidaway4.freeserve.co.uk] Sent: Friday, March 17, 2006 9:26 AM To: ENG-BLACK-COUNTRY-L@rootsweb.com Subject: [B.C.] Re: [STS] ROLL CALL My G. Grandfather was Thomas Bramhall Sidaway. born in Dudley 14/2/1842. He was a Chainmaker who later left the Black country for Teesside. He was married to Margaret Jackson who was a glass engraver. Do you have any links? Regards Don Sidaway _______________________

Hello Bob Very early Census 1801, 1811, 1821, 1831 were more or less just statistics. Looking at the ones I have for COOPER in Bloxwich, Walsall at the time of the 1801 Census it listed the name of the head of household, his occupation, how many males were in the house and how many females. The 1821 Census I found in Wednesbury for BURCOTT gave me 1house, 1 family, the name of the head of the household Henry Burcott then 2 males under 5 years, 1 males between 10 & 15 yrs. 1 male between 40 & 50yrs 1female between 5 & 10yrs 1 female between 30 & 40 yrs. very limited info' but it did help a little. The 1831 ones I found at Walsall (again for Cooper)had columns for Inhabited House, How many families in the house. How many trades in that building How many Males How many females, Total in house, The number of Males upward of 20years. The 1841 was the first one of any real value to researchers although it didn't give relationships or the towns where people were born. The adult ages were listed into rounded DOWN groups of 5.If the age was given as 15 it meant someone was aged 15 to 19 years. 20yrs meant they were 20 to 24 and so on. Does that help you? I do not have any 1841 census for Bilston so I am sorry I cannot help with that one. Does Bilston come into Wolverhampton Archives area? If it does you might find something of interest at www.wolverhampton.gov.uk/archives Best of luck Pat.

Hello Bob The dates of birth and baptism for George & Abigail and George & Sarah COOPER's children were in the Registers of the Bilston Independent Chapel, Oxford Street, Bilston. Have you already got these details? Regards Pat. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Bob Cooper" <sierrasnow@cox.net> To: <ENG-BLACK-COUNTRY-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Thursday, March 16, 2006 8:39 PM Subject: Parkes, Murry, Blinkshaw with Coopers 1841 > Hi Listers, Pat, Gil, Ruth, Carl, Nick; Julie, Tony and all you who have > helped me blast the brickwall. > I understand that the census takers occasionally registered visiting > relatives, especially youngsters, as servants? > Jane (or is it Jake? hard to read) Parkes and Maria Murry may be examples > from this (augmented) 1841 census: > Also, would someone clarify the '41 census recording of age policy? Do > they > round adults age to nearest decade? > I have George Cooper, 1st wife Abigail, 2nd wife Sarah in Bilston about > 1815 > to 1860. He was into coal & iron. 16+/- children including: > George (age 50 '41 Census Bilston District 16 south side of Church St., > page > 1/39) occup. iron monger > Sarah (age 30 '41 Census) > George (1814 IGI), > Mary Ann (1816 IGI?), > Joseph (1818 IGI), > William (1819 IGI) (1821 '41 Cens*), > James abt 1821, > George 1823? > John 1825? > Joseph (abt 1827 '41 Cens) > Abigail (abt 1830 '41 Cens) > Lila(Lala?) (abt 1832 '41 Cens) > Thomas (abt 1834 '41 Cens) > George (abt 1835 '41 Cens) > Mary (abt 1837 '41 Cens) > Samuel (abt 1838 '41 Cens) > Ann (abt 1840 '41 Cens) > Kinney / Henney (5 mos '41 Cens) > Governess Martha Blinkshaw (age 20 '41 Cens), > FS Maria Murry (age 22, '41 Cens), > FS Jane/Jake Parkes age 13, '41 Cens). > > Any connections? > > Thank you all > > Bob Oceanside, Calif. > > ______________________________

My G. Grandfather was Thomas Bramhall Sidaway. born in Dudley 14/2/1842. He was a Chainmaker who later left the Black country for Teesside. He was married to Margaret Jackson who was a glass engraver. Do you have any links? Regards Don Sidaway ----- Original Message ----- From: "Pete Lamberg" <linpete@lamberg25.fsnet.co.uk> To: <ENG-BLACK-COUNTRY-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Friday, March 17, 2006 10:14 AM Subject: [B.C.] Re: [STS] ROLL CALL > Just to add a few names, my interests are: > > STRINGER Cradley Heath > SIDAWAY Cradely Heath > FOSBROOK Cradley Heath > DARBY Netherton/Cradley Heath (Tailors) > > WORTON Cradley > READING Cradley > MASON Cradley > SOUTHALL Cradley > MANSELL Cradley > > HAYNES Kingswinford/Rowley Regis > > WHITE Halesowen > WILLETTS Halesowen > HACKETT Halesowen > > YARDLEY Old Swinford > CHANCE Old Swinford > > All best wishes from Linda. > > > > ==== ENG-BLACK-COUNTRY Mailing List ==== > The Assistant List Admins are Jean Morgan and Jan Ross > (Couldn't do it without those two great ladies) > > > > > -- > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. > Version: 7.1.384 / Virus Database: 268.2.4/283 - Release Date: 16/03/2006 > >

Hello Linda I have James DARBY b abt 1813 Netherton who married Hannah STOKES b abt 1806 Rowley Regis. He was a tailor and appears in Directories and the Census of 1851 - 61 - 71 - 81 generally at 11 High Street, Netherton, Dudley Their sons John DARBY b abt 1836 was also a tailor James DARBY b abt 1843 married Sarah COOPER in 1865 he was also a tailor Sarah COOPER was the daughter of William COOPER who was licensee at the Crown, Cinder Bank. She was a sister of my great grandmother Jane Sylvia COOPER by her marriage to David Parsons POOLE. Do these names mean anything to you? John B Davies Hermanus, South Africa -----Original Message----- From: Pete Lamberg [mailto:linpete@lamberg25.fsnet.co.uk] Sent: 17 March 2006 12:15 To: ENG-BLACK-COUNTRY-L@rootsweb.com Subject: [B.C.] Re: [STS] ROLL CALL Just to add a few names, my interests are: DARBY Netherton/Cradley Heath (Tailors)

********************************************************************** This document is strictly confidential and is intended only for use by the addressee. If you are not the intended recipient, any disclosure, copying, distribution or other action taken in reliance of the information contained in this e-mail is strictly prohibited. Any views expressed by the sender of this message are not necessarily those of the Department for Work and Pensions. If you have received this transmission in error, please use the reply function to tell us and then permanently delete what you have received. Please note: Incoming and outgoing e-mail messages are routinely monitored for compliance with our policy on the use of electronic communications. ********************************************************************** The original of this email was scanned for viruses by the Government Secure Intranet (GSi) virus scanning service supplied exclusively by Cable & Wireless in partnership with MessageLabs. On leaving the GSi this email was certified virus-free

Hello Steph,Thanks anyway, best wishes Dave Stokes in Inskip On 16/03/06, Steph Robinson < stephrobinson@blueyonder.co.uk> wrote: > > Hi Dave > > My most recent Arnold was b 1755.... > > Sorry > > Steph > > Research areas: CRADLEY, HALESOWEN, ROWLEY REGIS > Details on web site > www.stephrobinson.pwp.blueyonder.co.uk > Research names (amongst others): > ATTWOOD, BARNSLEY, BAYLISS, BEASLEY, BRIDGEWATER, COPESTICK, COX, > CRUMPTON, > FENDALL, HARPER, HARRIS, HODGETTS, HOMER, INGRAM, PARSONS, POUND, > ROBINSON, > SMART, SOUTHALL, SOUTHWELL, STOKES, WESTWOOD, WHITE > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Dave in Inskip" <hollyhousedave@googlemail.com> > To: <ENG-BLACK-COUNTRY-L@rootsweb.com > > Sent: Wednesday, March 15, 2006 11:29 PM > Subject: Re: [B.C.] ROLL CALL - Halesowen, Cradley & Rowley Regis > > > > Hello Steph,could one of your latter ARNOLD's have been a policeman in > the > > Birmingham area?, > > one Leo Arnold. > > > > Regards,Dave in Inskip. > > > > > > > > > > On 15/03/06, Steph Robinson <stephrobinson@blueyonder.co.uk> wrote: > >> > >> Hi all > >> > >> Here's my lot: > >> > >> ARNOLD Halesowen > >> ATTWOOD Rowley Regis > >> BARNSLEY Rowley Regis > >> BAYLISS Halesowen > >> BEASLEY Cradley > >> CHANDLER Halesowen > >> COPESTICK Birmingham > >> COX Cradley > >> CRAMPTON Cradley > >> CRUMPTON Halesowen > >> DUNN Dudley > >> FENDALL Cradley > >> FOREST Cradley > >> HAMPTON Netherton > >> HARPER Cradley > >> HARRIS Halesowen > >> HODGETTS Cradley > >> HOMER Cradley > >> > >> HOUGHTON Bromsgrove > >> INGRAM Halesowen > >> LOYNES Halesowen > >> PARKES Halesowen > >> PARSONS Halesowen > >> PEARSON Mushroom Green > >> POUND Shropsire > >> ROBINSON Cradley > >> SALT Halesowen > >> SMART Netherton > >> SOUTHALL Cradley > >> SOUTHWELL Halesowen > >> STOKES Kingswinford > >> VITCH Halesowen > >> WEBSTER Cradley > >> WHITE Halesowen > >> WORTON Cradley > >> > >> > >> New cousins most welcome.... > >> > >> Steph > >> > >> > >> ==== ENG-BLACK-COUNTRY Mailing List ==== > >> Wherever possible (except for personal messages) > >> please post replies to the list.Other people can learn from them! > >> > >> > > > > > > -- > > > > > > Sheffield Records Online > > http://www.sheffieldrecordsonline.org.uk > > Online Sheffield 1841,1861 census, trade directories,probate, message > > forum > > & more. If you are chasing your Ancestors round Sheffield---this is the > > place to be at. > > > > -- Sheffield Records Online http://www.sheffieldrecordsonline.org.uk Online Sheffield 1841,1861 census, trade directories,probate, message forum & more. If you are chasing your Ancestors round Sheffield---this is the place to be at.

Officially, rounded down to the nearest five years (40, 45, 50, etc). Ron S Original Message: ----------------- From: Mellie chouikh2006@btinternet.com Date: Thu, 16 Mar 2006 21:30:46 -0000 To: ENG-BLACK-COUNTRY-L@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [B.C.] Parkes, Murry, Blinkshaw with Coopers 1841 >>Also, would someone clarify the '41 census recording of age policy? Do >>they round adults age to nearest decade?<< Bob, despite the various things that people say, and I am sure they are very well informed, the truth of the 1841 census, as I have found it to be (and the other years for that matter) is that there is no "uniforming" of rounding up or down, it seems to have depended much on what the enumerator wanted to do that particular day, or even on that particular entry, and it also depened on the information he was given, much of that was guess work, or even lies LOL (ladies hiding thier real ages/bigamous marriages/illigitimates) I guess, we have to look at ourselves now, how do we react to completing the censuses? most people think they ask too many questions, ( i personally always answer 2 questions fascisiously LOL "SEX" and "RACE", I answer "yes please" and "Human" !!) and a lot of people have things they don't want recording on censuses, take that back to 1841, and people then were almost terrified of the enumerator LOL and wanted to impress him, wanted to show they knew their names, ages etc when most of them didn't have a clue! So, if you are pretty sure you have found one of your rellies, but thier age is fluctuating, but other factors lead you to believe they are "yours" GO WITH IT see where it leads! there's always a 50/50 chance you are right!! and they are pretty good odds LOL I have one that is 50 on one census, but only 56 on the next one! one is 56 on one census but only 47 on the next!!!! If everyone was "rounded up or down" they would all be aged in 5's and 10's!! go with what your "genealogy gut feeling" tells you and let somebody else DISPROVE IT LOL (saves you the legwork!) you will find your "GGF" works pretty well as a radar for finding your own!! Happy Hunting!! Mellie How Come My Coat Of Arms Has Buckles At The Back? ==== ENG-BLACK-COUNTRY Mailing List ==== The B.C. List Admin is Dave Ogden :- d.ogden@blueyonder.co.uk -------------------------------------------------------------------- mail2web - Check your email from the web at http://mail2web.com/ .

> I understand that the census takers occasionally registered visiting relatives, especially youngsters, as servants? I have never come across this. Although it is of course possible that young relatives who lived in the house genuinely were servants (elsewhere), or helped in, say, the family-run shop. Original Message: ----------------- From: Bob Cooper sierrasnow@cox.net Date: Thu, 16 Mar 2006 12:39:35 -0800 To: ENG-BLACK-COUNTRY-L@rootsweb.com Subject: [B.C.] Parkes, Murry, Blinkshaw with Coopers 1841 Hi Listers, Pat, Gil, Ruth, Carl, Nick; Julie, Tony and all you who have helped me blast the brickwall. I understand that the census takers occasionally registered visiting relatives, especially youngsters, as servants? Jane (or is it Jake? hard to read) Parkes and Maria Murry may be examples from this (augmented) 1841 census: Also, would someone clarify the '41 census recording of age policy? Do they round adults age to nearest decade? I have George Cooper, 1st wife Abigail, 2nd wife Sarah in Bilston about 1815 to 1860. He was into coal & iron. 16+/- children including: George (age 50 '41 Census Bilston District 16 south side of Church St., page 1/39) occup. iron monger Sarah (age 30 '41 Census) George (1814 IGI), Mary Ann (1816 IGI?), Joseph (1818 IGI), William (1819 IGI) (1821 '41 Cens*), James abt 1821, George 1823? John 1825? Joseph (abt 1827 '41 Cens) Abigail (abt 1830 '41 Cens) Lila(Lala?) (abt 1832 '41 Cens) Thomas (abt 1834 '41 Cens) George (abt 1835 '41 Cens) Mary (abt 1837 '41 Cens) Samuel (abt 1838 '41 Cens) Ann (abt 1840 '41 Cens) Kinney / Henney (5 mos '41 Cens) Governess Martha Blinkshaw (age 20 '41 Cens), FS Maria Murry (age 22, '41 Cens), FS Jane/Jake Parkes age 13, '41 Cens). Any connections? Thank you all Bob Oceanside, Calif. ==== ENG-BLACK-COUNTRY Mailing List ==== The Assistant List Admins are Jean Morgan and Jan Ross (Couldn't do it without those two great ladies) -------------------------------------------------------------------- mail2web - Check your email from the web at http://mail2web.com/ .

Herewith my list of surname interests : AINSWORTH Kidderminster BRADLEY Bilston CAUSER Willenhall CLARK Dudley, Fenton (Stoke-on-Trent), Kinver, Wednesbury DUDLEY Bilston HICKSON/HIXSON/HIXON Aston, Bilston, Dudley, Fallings Heath, Wednesbury , Willenhall, Wolverhampton JEFFERY Kidderminster OLDFIELD Bilston PAGE Sedgley, Wolverhampton And finally, the inhabitants of Kinver House, Church Hill, Kinver 1902 onwards Cheers Alison MacKenzie

Just to add a few names, my interests are: STRINGER Cradley Heath SIDAWAY Cradely Heath FOSBROOK Cradley Heath DARBY Netherton/Cradley Heath (Tailors) WORTON Cradley READING Cradley MASON Cradley SOUTHALL Cradley MANSELL Cradley HAYNES Kingswinford/Rowley Regis WHITE Halesowen WILLETTS Halesowen HACKETT Halesowen YARDLEY Old Swinford CHANCE Old Swinford All best wishes from Linda.

Hi all, Is there anyone who can help me with this address. Court 24 Dudley Port,Tipton 1881 census. Can sks tell me where abouts this was? Jan

We used to use this as a skipping rope song. Two people would swing the rope and you had to run in when your name was called and then out when they said Stafford Jail. If you got tangled in the rope then you replaced one of the turners. This was in the late 40s & 50s in Woodside, Dudley Barbara Haner > >....... is no good >Chop her up for firewood >If she squeals pull her tail and >Send her off to Stafford jail > >

>>Hi All I am fairly new to this list, but I must say what a fun lot you are! Also the information you give is excellent especially to beginners. Keep up the good work. Wendy Partridge<< fun ~ black country for how to live!! it if aint fun DON'T DO IT!!!!! even I have my moments of seriousness, not often mind you, but I DO have them, its a case of catch them while you can LOL it wont last long! especially as I am nursing a wounded eye where i walked into the door yesterday OUCH!! spose if it brusies up it will be a "BLACK (country) EYE ROTFLMFAO ouch it hurts when i LOL !! ggoo on cal an wuf av a gud loff, while yow can! Mellie How Come My Coat Of Arms Has Buckles At The Back?

Hi All I am fairly new to this list, but I must say what a fun lot you are! Also the information you give is excellent especially to beginners. Keep up the good work. Wendy Partridge ----- Original Message ----- From: "Mellie" <chouikh2006@btinternet.com> To: <ENG-BLACK-COUNTRY-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Thursday, March 16, 2006 9:30 PM Subject: Re: [B.C.] Parkes, Murry, Blinkshaw with Coopers 1841 >>>Also, would someone clarify the '41 census recording of age policy? Do >>>they > round adults age to nearest decade?<< > > Bob, despite the various things that people say, and I am sure they are > very well informed, the truth of the 1841 census, as I have found it to be > (and the other years for that matter) is that there is no "uniforming" of > rounding up or down, it seems to have depended much on what the > enumerator wanted to do that particular day, or even on that particular > entry, and it also depened on the information he was given, much of that > was guess work, or even lies LOL (ladies hiding thier real ages/bigamous > marriages/illigitimates) > > I guess, we have to look at ourselves now, how do we react to completing > the censuses? most people think they ask too many questions, ( i > personally always answer 2 questions fascisiously LOL "SEX" and "RACE", I > answer "yes please" and "Human" !!) and a lot of people have things they > don't want recording on censuses, take that back to 1841, and people then > were almost terrified of the enumerator LOL and wanted to impress him, > wanted to show they knew their names, ages etc when most of them didn't > have a clue! > > So, if you are pretty sure you have found one of your rellies, but thier > age is fluctuating, but other factors lead you to believe they are "yours" > GO WITH IT see where it leads! there's always a 50/50 chance you are > right!! and they are pretty good odds LOL > > I have one that is 50 on one census, but only 56 on the next one! one is > 56 on one census but only 47 on the next!!!! > > If everyone was "rounded up or down" they would all be aged in 5's and > 10's!! > > go with what your "genealogy gut feeling" tells you and let somebody else > DISPROVE IT LOL (saves you the legwork!) you will find your "GGF" works > pretty well as a radar for finding your own!! > > Happy Hunting!! > Mellie > How Come My Coat Of Arms Has Buckles At The Back? > > ==== ENG-BLACK-COUNTRY Mailing List ==== > The B.C. List Admin is Dave Ogden :- > d.ogden@blueyonder.co.uk >

>>Also, would someone clarify the '41 census recording of age policy? Do >>they round adults age to nearest decade?<< Bob, despite the various things that people say, and I am sure they are very well informed, the truth of the 1841 census, as I have found it to be (and the other years for that matter) is that there is no "uniforming" of rounding up or down, it seems to have depended much on what the enumerator wanted to do that particular day, or even on that particular entry, and it also depened on the information he was given, much of that was guess work, or even lies LOL (ladies hiding thier real ages/bigamous marriages/illigitimates) I guess, we have to look at ourselves now, how do we react to completing the censuses? most people think they ask too many questions, ( i personally always answer 2 questions fascisiously LOL "SEX" and "RACE", I answer "yes please" and "Human" !!) and a lot of people have things they don't want recording on censuses, take that back to 1841, and people then were almost terrified of the enumerator LOL and wanted to impress him, wanted to show they knew their names, ages etc when most of them didn't have a clue! So, if you are pretty sure you have found one of your rellies, but thier age is fluctuating, but other factors lead you to believe they are "yours" GO WITH IT see where it leads! there's always a 50/50 chance you are right!! and they are pretty good odds LOL I have one that is 50 on one census, but only 56 on the next one! one is 56 on one census but only 47 on the next!!!! If everyone was "rounded up or down" they would all be aged in 5's and 10's!! go with what your "genealogy gut feeling" tells you and let somebody else DISPROVE IT LOL (saves you the legwork!) you will find your "GGF" works pretty well as a radar for finding your own!! Happy Hunting!! Mellie How Come My Coat Of Arms Has Buckles At The Back?

When I wrote about Mr and Mrs Tickell I forgot to mention that they had a son called John Thomas! Or so I am reliably informed. Jim. R O T F L M F A O !!!!!! Mellie How Come My Coat Of Arms Has Buckles At The Back?

Hi Peter,thanks for your reply,my Stokes's were firmly entrenched in Sheffield by that time, Best wishes Dave in Inskip On 16/03/06, PWBeaman@aol.com <PWBeaman@aol.com> wrote: > > Hi > > The only Stokes I have are from Sarah Beaman on my side born 1824 and > married 21 Oct 1850 at Aston Juxta to William Stokes. Their children (6) > were, William Beaman, Cecily Anne, Henry Arthur, Florence Emily, Sarah H., > and Henrietta. Born 1851, 53, 59, 61, 63, and 68. > > Good Luck > > Peter > -- Sheffield Records Online http://www.sheffieldrecordsonline.org.uk Online Sheffield 1841,1861 census, trade directories,probate, message forum & more. If you are chasing your Ancestors round Sheffield---this is the place to be at.

Thanks for the further information Jim. I had no idea what the rest of the saying was. Wonder how that song originated; it was probably an old song based on someone or other. But how would we find out. Best wishes Sheila ----- Original Message ----- From: "Jim Lane" <jim.lane@blueyonder.co.uk> To: "Sheila Willmore" <sheila@shendave.fsnet.co.uk> Cc: <ENG-BLACK-COUNTRY-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Thursday, March 16, 2006 6:40 PM Subject: Re: [B.C.] Stafford Jail saying > It goes on: > Worcester Jail, is too far, > Send him in a motor car. > Motor Car, is too big, send him on a jacky-pig. > Jacky-pig, is too small > Send him on a rubber ball. > Rubber ball, is just right, > Send him off, tomorrow night! > Jim. > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Sheila Willmore" <sheila@shendave.fsnet.co.uk> > To: <ENG-BLACK-COUNTRY-L@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Tuesday, March 14, 2006 9:32 PM > Subject: Fw: [B.C.] Stafford Jail saying > > > > My father had a similar saying but it wasn't Stafford Jail in our > > house, > > it was Worcester Jail. > > > > Sheila > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: "Nick Griffin" <nick.griffin@mac.com> > > To: <ENG-BLACK-COUNTRY-L@rootsweb.com> > > Sent: Tuesday, March 14, 2006 8:07 PM > > Subject: [B.C.] Stafford Jail saying > > > > > >> Well while we are on about phrases I have always wondered if the > >> rhyme my grandpa used to say to my kid brother (which always reduced > >> him to a tantrum...so well worth the effort!) was a traditional one > >> or just summat he made up: > >> > >> "Lickle jissey jasey > >> Is na bloody gud > >> Chop tha lickle begger up fa fire wood > >> If he squeals > >> Pull is tail > >> Send tha lickle bugger off ta Stafford Jail" > >> > >> Any ideas? > >> > >> Nick > >> > >> > >> ==== ENG-BLACK-COUNTRY Mailing List ==== > >> The B.C. List Admin is Dave Ogden :- > >> d.ogden@blueyonder.co.uk > >> > >> > > > > ______________________________ > >

It goes on: Worcester Jail, is too far, Send him in a motor car. Motor Car, is too big, send him on a jacky-pig. Jacky-pig, is too small Send him on a rubber ball. Rubber ball, is just right, Send him off, tomorrow night! Jim. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Sheila Willmore" <sheila@shendave.fsnet.co.uk> To: <ENG-BLACK-COUNTRY-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Tuesday, March 14, 2006 9:32 PM Subject: Fw: [B.C.] Stafford Jail saying > My father had a similar saying but it wasn't Stafford Jail in our > house, > it was Worcester Jail. > > Sheila > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Nick Griffin" <nick.griffin@mac.com> > To: <ENG-BLACK-COUNTRY-L@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Tuesday, March 14, 2006 8:07 PM > Subject: [B.C.] Stafford Jail saying > > >> Well while we are on about phrases I have always wondered if the >> rhyme my grandpa used to say to my kid brother (which always reduced >> him to a tantrum...so well worth the effort!) was a traditional one >> or just summat he made up: >> >> "Lickle jissey jasey >> Is na bloody gud >> Chop tha lickle begger up fa fire wood >> If he squeals >> Pull is tail >> Send tha lickle bugger off ta Stafford Jail" >> >> Any ideas? >> >> Nick >> >> >> ==== ENG-BLACK-COUNTRY Mailing List ==== >> The B.C. List Admin is Dave Ogden :- >> d.ogden@blueyonder.co.uk >> >> > > ______________________________