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Hello Linda, Could this be what you are looking for. Regards, Keith. http://search.msn.co.uk/results.aspx?srch=105&FORM=AS5&q=METHODIST+CHURCH++KING+STREET+DUDLEY

Does anyone know if The Methodist Church is still standing in King Street Dudley? Thanks I just found out that some of my family married there. All best wishes from Linda.

Nice idea Yorkie but Ancestry has a few entries for RAWLATT in the Leamington & Coventry area from the 1881 census and there's a few in the Northants & Leics area in 1861- maybe it's a maiden name? Graham ----- Original Message ----- From: <AYorkie19@aol.com> To: <ENG-BLACK-COUNTRY-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Wednesday, March 22, 2006 4:15 PM Subject: [B.C.] re RAWLAT >I have just found that my g g g g grandfather was a Chelsea Pensioner and > his middle name was RAWLAT. I am just wondering if his father had also > been a > soldier and he had christened his son after a battle. Does anyone > recognise > the name at all. I have done a search and come up with a suspicious map > and > website on the net, which I haven't entered. Just wondered if anyone on > the > list has heard the name before. > > Yorkie > > > ==== ENG-BLACK-COUNTRY Mailing List ==== > Wherever possible (except for personal messages) > please post replies to the list.Other people can learn from them! > >

Jo You will find photographs of the Chapel in both its original (pre 1894) and later form (I think, although I couldn't find it just now) on http://www.aclickintime.co.uk/about.html as well as other photographs of old Walsall. Don't know if the Chapel is still there. Best wishes Graham ----- Original Message ----- From: "JOSEPHINE GREEN" <jo.green54@btopenworld.com> To: <ENG-BLACK-COUNTRY-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Wednesday, March 22, 2006 9:32 AM Subject: [B.C.] New Member Posting Interests > Hi, I am new to this list and am researching the following names: > > Clark (most are brush makers/manufacturers) > > Tharp - in particular Dorothy Tharp (plush saddle cloth maker) and > Elizabeth Tharp (Dressmaker). Elizabeth is married to David Clark (brush > maker) David is son of Job Clark - as yet no info on him. > > Flavell > > Carter > > All are from the Walsall area. > > I would love to hear from anyone researching the same. > > > Also, could anyone kindly tell me if The Independent Chapel in Bridge > Street is still there? and if there is anywhere I can look at photos of > Walsall Foreign area? > > Many thanks. > > Jo Green > Scrayingham > North Yorkshire > > > ==== ENG-BLACK-COUNTRY Mailing List ==== > The B.C. List Admin is Dave Ogden :- > d.ogden@blueyonder.co.uk > >

Dear List Here's my crew: STANLEY - Bloxwich c18th, Walsall c19th, Coventry c20th; JARVIS - Birmingham & Walsall c19th, Coventry c20th; LUCAS - Birmingham & Walsall c18th & c19th; BOWEN - Birmingham c19th Would really like some help with the Jarvis', have only found them back to 1881 - they don't seem to have believed in Civil Registration! Head of the family, William Charles Jarvis, claims to have been born in Rushall near Walsall c.1857. Best wishes Graham

The only major fair held in the BC is on 9th April at Dunstall Racecourse. Wolverhampton, 10 - 5. Free car parking and a cafe onsite, even a bar if you fancy a pint. The organiser is thinking of dropping this fair from the circuit because over ther last 2 years attendance by the public has dropped so use it or loose it. There's still a full compliment of stall holders and F.H.S.'s attending. Stalls will be there selling, Books, Postcards, Maps, CD's, Census, Microfiche, Charts, Storage Items, to name but a few, F.H.S's and the Records Office will also be there for help & look ups etc. including the S.O.G. not only will their bookstall be there but also the S.O.G computer help team manned by famous names like John Hanson and Jean Bunting. They will help you with any look ups you care to name as they have full online access to all known databases. Just about everything you can think of to do with Family History will be represented. We have some half price entry tickets available, they will get you in for £1 instead of £2. A maximum of 5 per person please. Send a stamped S.A.E. with a note to say how many you want to us at. Genealogy Printers Genealogy House 15 Linley Drive Bushbury Wolverhampton WV10 8JJ. Best Wishes Carol & Ron O'Neill www.genealogyprinters.com

Hi list Does anyone know please if Gamekeepers were self employed (like journeymen) or always worked for "the big house" or more likely to be up market names for poachers ? I am tracking the" Game Keeper " Henry Parker who lived at Little Huncote, Thurlaston in 1881 and am curious about the occupation. Apart from my mother hiding "Lady Chatterleys Lover" in her knitting bag, I have not encountered them before !! Clues appreciated Thanks Jilly

Linda, If I remember correctly the Methodist church is opposite to the entrance to Trinity road. The opposite end to St James's. It is near the united reformed church. I think it is quite new ( Built it the last 40 years). I may be wrong so some now staying in the area may be able to check. Regards Fiona Caskey X-Message: #7 Date: Wed, 22 Mar 2006 21:36:55 -0000 From: "Pete Lamberg" <linpete@lamberg25.fsnet.co.uk> To: ENG-BLACK-COUNTRY-L@rootsweb.com Message-ID: <000e01c64df8$be11e5f0$08d3883e@pete06y2btujhk> Subject: RE KING STREET DUDLEY Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" MIME-Version: 1.0 Does anyone know if The Methodist Church is still standing in King Street Dudley? Thanks I just found out that some of my family married there. All best wishes from Linda.

I have just found that my g g g g grandfather was a Chelsea Pensioner and his middle name was RAWLAT. I am just wondering if his father had also been a soldier and he had christened his son after a battle. Does anyone recognise the name at all. I have done a search and come up with a suspicious map and website on the net, which I haven't entered. Just wondered if anyone on the list has heard the name before. Yorkie

Hi, I am new to this list and am researching the following names: Clark (most are brush makers/manufacturers) Tharp - in particular Dorothy Tharp (plush saddle cloth maker) and Elizabeth Tharp (Dressmaker). Elizabeth is married to David Clark (brush maker) David is son of Job Clark - as yet no info on him. Flavell Carter All are from the Walsall area. I would love to hear from anyone researching the same. Also, could anyone kindly tell me if The Independent Chapel in Bridge Street is still there? and if there is anywhere I can look at photos of Walsall Foreign area? Many thanks. Jo Green Scrayingham North Yorkshire

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David I have Ernest GROUCUTT born circa 1899 & his as parents as John C GROUCUTT & Comfort nee RALPHS. I have not proved this family but from the 1901 indexes I have John & Comfort in West Bromwich with possibly Ernest, George 1886, Samuel 1888, Dora 1890,Charles 1892 & John 1894. John was my Gt grandfather Absalom's brother. Sandra ----- Original Message ----- From: "David Element" <david@element0.fsnet.co.uk> To: <ENG-BLACK-COUNTRY-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Sunday, March 19, 2006 8:42 PM Subject: [B.C.] Re: Roll call - Groucutt > I know that your GROUCUTT interest is Coseley, but seeing the name prompts > me to say that my tree has an Ernest GROUCUTT, born around 1899 (father John > Leonard GROUCUTT). Ernest married Beatrice May SYLVESTER in 1925 in Oldbury. > > David Element > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "RAYMOND SPICER" <RaySpicer@blueyonder.co.uk> > To: <ENG-BLACK-COUNTRY-L@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Friday, March 17, 2006 9:03 PM > Subject: Roll call > > > > My interests are: > > > > AUSTIN--Dudley,Sedgley, and Bilston 1820 onwards > > SPICER--Coseley,Sedgley 1861 onwards,Leicestershire 1690 > > GROUCUTT--Coseley,early1800's onwards and Dawley Magna 1650. > > > > > > > ==== ENG-BLACK-COUNTRY Mailing List ==== > The Assistant List Admins are Jean Morgan and Jan Ross > (Couldn't do it without those two great ladies) > >

Very many thanks to everyone who helped on this problem. 'Labourer in gardens' it will be. I am delighted, as I like a bit of gardening myself. Best wishes to all. Vic Kent, UK

Hi Vic, I agree with everybody else. Having reversed the colours of the image it definitely reads "labourer in garden." best wishes, Chris ----- Original Message ----- From: <VAGarvey@aol.com> To: <ENG-BLACK-COUNTRY-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Monday, March 20, 2006 6:04 PM Subject: [B.C.] 1851 Staffs Census-Help please > Hi All, > > I wonder if SKS could help me with an illegible census record? My old eyes > are not what they were! > Wolverhampton St Mary's > HO107/2019 Folio 792 page 17.The folks at number 66 (last three names) are > my ancestors. The Head is Barney Garvey but I cannot make out his > profession/occupation, it looks like 'something at something'? Any ideas? > > Also, their residence is '66 Middle Row'. Does this still exist in today's > Wolverhampton? > > Any help would be mucho appreciatedo. Grazios. > > Best regards, Vic > Kent, UK > > > ==== ENG-BLACK-COUNTRY Mailing List ==== > Wherever possible (except for personal messages) > please post replies to the list.Other people can learn from them! > >

Sorry I meant to say too, that it looks like Schedule 56. It doesn't show a house number. Jo :) http://www.tribalpages.com/tribes/jo14 I use Archive CD Books to do my family history research http://www.archivecdbooks.org/ http://www.british-genealogy.com/forums/index.php?referrerid=18 ----- Original Message ----- From: "Jo Simpson" <jo@simpsons14.freeserve.co.uk> To: <ENG-BLACK-COUNTRY-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Monday, March 20, 2006 7:15 PM Subject: Re: [B.C.] 1851 Staffs Census-Help please > Hi Vic, > to me it looks like, > Barney Garvey, head, Mar, 50, Labourer at Gardens, Ireland > Mary Garvey, wife, Mar, 50, Knitter of Stockings, Ireland > Patrick Garvey, son, Mar, 26, Bricklayers Lab, Ireland. > Bartholome Garvey, son, U, 18, nail Cutter, Ireland > Ann Garvey, daur, 9, scholar, Staffordshire W Hampton > Bridget Garvey, daur in law, Mar, 26, Millener, Ireland > Mary Ann Garvey, Grand daur, 4 months, Staffordshire W Hampton > Patrick Byne, son in law mar, 26, Bricklayers Lab, Ireland > Mary Byne, daur,, M, 23, laundress, Ireland > Catherine Byne, Grand daur, 1, Staffordshire W Hampton > Mary Kelley, orphan, 5, Staffordshire, W Hampton > John Kelley, visitor, U, 36 , Porter, Ireland > > Good Luck, > Jo :) > http://www.tribalpages.com/tribes/jo14 > I use Archive CD Books to do my family history research > http://www.archivecdbooks.org/ > http://www.british-genealogy.com/forums/index.php?referrerid=18 > ----- Original Message ----- > From: <VAGarvey@aol.com> > To: <ENG-BLACK-COUNTRY-L@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Monday, March 20, 2006 6:04 PM > Subject: [B.C.] 1851 Staffs Census-Help please > > >> Hi All, >> >> I wonder if SKS could help me with an illegible census record? My old >> eyes >> are not what they were! >> Wolverhampton St Mary's >> HO107/2019 Folio 792 page 17.The folks at number 66 (last three names) >> are >> my ancestors. The Head is Barney Garvey but I cannot make out his >> profession/occupation, it looks like 'something at something'? Any ideas? >> >> Also, their residence is '66 Middle Row'. Does this still exist in >> today's >> Wolverhampton? >> >> Any help would be mucho appreciatedo. Grazios. >> >> Best regards, Vic >> Kent, UK >> >> >> ==== ENG-BLACK-COUNTRY Mailing List ==== >> Wherever possible (except for personal messages) >> please post replies to the list.Other people can learn from them! >> >> > > > > ==== ENG-BLACK-COUNTRY Mailing List ==== > The Assistant List Admins are Jean Morgan and Jan Ross > (Couldn't do it without those two great ladies) > >

Looks like labourer at gardens Wolfie who read that for ya? ROTFLMFAO Mellie How Come My Coat Of Arms Has Buckles At The Back?

Hi there, Vic, It looks like, "LABOURER AT GARDEN" to me or, "LABOURS AT GARDEN". Middle ROw was next to Charles Street Wolverhampton (St Mary's parish) but I do not think that exists now either. Try this website for an old map, including Middle Row: http://www.wolverhamptonarchives.dial.pipex.com/gen_map_eg.htm Louise ----- Original Message ----- From: <VAGarvey@aol.com> To: <ENG-BLACK-COUNTRY-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Monday, March 20, 2006 6:04 PM Subject: [B.C.] 1851 Staffs Census-Help please > Hi All, > > I wonder if SKS could help me with an illegible census record? My old eyes > are not what they were! > Wolverhampton St Mary's > HO107/2019 Folio 792 page 17.The folks at number 66 (last three names) are > my ancestors. The Head is Barney Garvey but I cannot make out his > profession/occupation, it looks like 'something at something'? Any ideas? > > Also, their residence is '66 Middle Row'. Does this still exist in today's > Wolverhampton? > > Any help would be mucho appreciatedo. Grazios. > > Best regards, Vic > Kent, UK > > > ==== ENG-BLACK-COUNTRY Mailing List ==== > Wherever possible (except for personal messages) > please post replies to the list.Other people can learn from them! > > > > -- > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG Free Edition. > Version: 7.1.385 / Virus Database: 268.2.5/284 - Release Date: 17/03/2006 > >

Hi Vic, to me it looks like, Barney Garvey, head, Mar, 50, Labourer at Gardens, Ireland Mary Garvey, wife, Mar, 50, Knitter of Stockings, Ireland Patrick Garvey, son, Mar, 26, Bricklayers Lab, Ireland. Bartholome Garvey, son, U, 18, nail Cutter, Ireland Ann Garvey, daur, 9, scholar, Staffordshire W Hampton Bridget Garvey, daur in law, Mar, 26, Millener, Ireland Mary Ann Garvey, Grand daur, 4 months, Staffordshire W Hampton Patrick Byne, son in law mar, 26, Bricklayers Lab, Ireland Mary Byne, daur,, M, 23, laundress, Ireland Catherine Byne, Grand daur, 1, Staffordshire W Hampton Mary Kelley, orphan, 5, Staffordshire, W Hampton John Kelley, visitor, U, 36 , Porter, Ireland Good Luck, Jo :) http://www.tribalpages.com/tribes/jo14 I use Archive CD Books to do my family history research http://www.archivecdbooks.org/ http://www.british-genealogy.com/forums/index.php?referrerid=18 ----- Original Message ----- From: <VAGarvey@aol.com> To: <ENG-BLACK-COUNTRY-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Monday, March 20, 2006 6:04 PM Subject: [B.C.] 1851 Staffs Census-Help please > Hi All, > > I wonder if SKS could help me with an illegible census record? My old eyes > are not what they were! > Wolverhampton St Mary's > HO107/2019 Folio 792 page 17.The folks at number 66 (last three names) are > my ancestors. The Head is Barney Garvey but I cannot make out his > profession/occupation, it looks like 'something at something'? Any ideas? > > Also, their residence is '66 Middle Row'. Does this still exist in today's > Wolverhampton? > > Any help would be mucho appreciatedo. Grazios. > > Best regards, Vic > Kent, UK > > > ==== ENG-BLACK-COUNTRY Mailing List ==== > Wherever possible (except for personal messages) > please post replies to the list.Other people can learn from them! > >