Thanks Cassy and Polly for your replies. I suspect that they put an address on the birth certificates of Workhouse babies to save embarrassment in the future when the person might have to produce their certificates. I know the (Wordsley) Workhouse was Stream Rd,but I wasn't sure of the number. Regards, Sue. -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.385 / Virus Database: 268.3.4/299 - Release Date: 31/03/2006

Hi Susan Whilst I cannot confirm that this was the address of the Stourbridge Union Workhouse, I can tell you that by that time it was the normal practice only to give the street address of institutions, and so it seems very likely. Regards Polly Polly Rubery List admin: MIDMARCH-L@rootsweb.com A genealogy and local history list covering the Counties of Brecon, Hereford, Monmouth, Shropshire, Stafford and Worcester. ENG-HEREFORD@rootsweb.com A genealogy and local history list covering the County of Hereford ROWBERRY-L@rootsweb.com ROWBERRY/RUBERY ONS - GOONS #278 rowberry@one-name.org http://www.rowberry.org Webmaster for the Herefordshire Family History Society http://www.rootsweb.com/~ukhfhs/index.html ----- Original Message ----- From: "Susan M Wood" <sueandsteve@susanwood.wanadoo.co.uk> To: <ENG-BLACK-COUNTRY-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Friday, March 31, 2006 9:49 PM Subject: [B.C.] Stourbridge Union Workhouse Hi, I am trying to find a list of inmates for Stourbridge Union Workhouse,Stream Rd Wordsley circa 1905.Can anyone help,please? Also,would anyone know if someone was born in the Workhouse,whether that would appear as their place of birth? I have a birth certificate dated 1905 which gives the address as 12,Stream Road,Wordsley and I am wondering if this is in fact the Workhouse.The child was illegitimate and the father is unknown. Thanks for any help, Sue. -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.385 / Virus Database: 268.3.4/299 - Release Date: 31/03/2006 ==== ENG-BLACK-COUNTRY Mailing List ==== The B.C. List Admin is Dave Ogden :- d.ogden@blueyonder.co.uk

Anyone know whereabouts this was please. Think it might be the Oldbury area, if so what other streets was it near to> Gaye

Hi Sue I believe that was indeed Wordsley workhouse , my gr gr gr grandfather was there in the 1871 census with some of his grandchildren Also my gr ? Uncle Hand was born at Bromsgrove workhouse cant lay my hands on her birth cert at the moment but I am sure it just gives the address and his father was a gardener , they also christened them there Cassy ----- Original Message ----- From: "Susan M Wood" <sueandsteve@susanwood.wanadoo.co.uk> To: <ENG-BLACK-COUNTRY-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Friday, March 31, 2006 9:49 PM Subject: [B.C.] Stourbridge Union Workhouse > > Hi, > > I am trying to find a list of inmates for Stourbridge Union > Workhouse,Stream > Rd Wordsley circa 1905.Can anyone help,please? > > Also,would anyone know if someone was born in the Workhouse,whether that > would appear as their place of birth? I have a birth certificate dated > 1905 > which gives the address as 12,Stream Road,Wordsley and I am wondering if > this is in fact the Workhouse.The child was illegitimate and the father is > unknown. > > Thanks for any help, > > Sue. > > > -- > No virus found in this outgoing message. > Checked by AVG Free Edition. > Version: 7.1.385 / Virus Database: 268.3.4/299 - Release Date: 31/03/2006 > > > > ==== ENG-BLACK-COUNTRY Mailing List ==== > The B.C. List Admin is Dave Ogden :- > d.ogden@blueyonder.co.uk > > >

Hi, I am trying to find a list of inmates for Stourbridge Union Workhouse,Stream Rd Wordsley circa 1905.Can anyone help,please? Also,would anyone know if someone was born in the Workhouse,whether that would appear as their place of birth? I have a birth certificate dated 1905 which gives the address as 12,Stream Road,Wordsley and I am wondering if this is in fact the Workhouse.The child was illegitimate and the father is unknown. Thanks for any help, Sue. -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.385 / Virus Database: 268.3.4/299 - Release Date: 31/03/2006

Please can someone help? I am trying to get more information about the ancestors of Mary Ann Barnsley Born 1795 in Worcester who married Thomas Brown on 9 May 1920. Her parents were Henry Barnsley, born in Brigenorth and Mary Palmer. His parents were (I think, Henry Barnsley and Sarah Bill. I have also traced another (more extensive) branch of Barnsley's starting with Reginald Barnsley (born 1474) of Barnsley Hall whose wife was a Tibson. I have traced an extensive descendants tree through 11 generations (some of whom went to Australia), but alas can't find the link with Mary Ann Barnsley who married Thomas Brown. Regards Mike Browne ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Nampak Disclaimer: Privileged or confidential information may be contained in this message. If you are not the addressee indicated in this message you may not copy or deliver this message to anyone. In such case, you should destroy this message and kindly notify the sender by reply email. Opinions, conclusions and other information in this message that do not relate to the official business of the Nampak Group of Companies are neither given nor endorsed by it -------------------------------------------------------------------------------------

'The box' was where early Friendly Societies kept the subscription money to pay their members when they were off sick. The term probably originated in the 19th century in the North of England. Nigel Brown Wolverhampton there you go, see, a propper explaination! still like mine LOL Mellie How Come My Coat Of Arms Has Buckles At The Back?

Is there anything available on Free BMD that is not now available on the various pay-Websites (1837 Online, etc.)? Ron S 1837 has the entire GRO upto quite recent, which is more than Freebmd, but Freebmd's search engine is more accurate, ancestry.co.uk has the censuses, and lots of useful stuff but the ranked searches are a pain in the butt sometimes, and the exact searches dont find what you want if there is the slightest spelling error! the searches on the GRO on ancestry throws out tons of stuff ! rule of thumb: look on FreeBMD first, and if its the black country or staffordshire try staffordshire bmd and west midlands bmd if the BMD you are looking for isn't there, AND you desperately need the info, either pay for subscription to ancestry and pay per view on 1837 or ask one of us nutters who already have for a free look up LOL Mellie How Come My Coat Of Arms Has Buckles At The Back?

>>Does anyone know the origin of "on the box", meaning claiming sickness (or incapacity) benefit? David in Brierley Hill<< me thinks, (Yeah I can think!) on the box as opposed to in it LOL the box being a coffin (wooden box) so if you are ill you are "on" the box ie nearlly dead but not in the box LOL no doubt someone will asy I am wrong but me likes my theory LOL it actaully makes sense! geez, i best go sit back in the corner and be quiet! I am really thinking about this now! thats what you get when people phone me and get me out of bed I cant sleep now LOL I actually think I am right! it is something that the black country would say, "e's proper on the box" meaning someone is so ill they are on the coffin but not quite ready for it yet LOL Mellie How Come My Coat Of Arms Has Buckles At The Back?

Dear David, -----Original Message-----Does anyone know the origin of "on the box", meaning claiming sickness (or incapacity) benefit? 'The box' was where early Friendly Societies kept the subscription money to pay their members when they were off sick. The term probably originated in the 19th century in the North of England. Nigel Brown Wolverhampton ENG-WOR-CRADLEY@rootsweb.com

Ron As far as I know none of the pay ones (excluding Ancestry which give access to Free BMD) give you a name search or having found an entry list other entries with the same reference, useful for checking the other half of a marriage). 1837's search only lists the images the name might appear in within the date range you have specified. On the other hand I don't think Free Cen is offering anything additional, although it does have some 1841 transcriptions which puts it ahead of Ancestry but unfortunately no images of the original. Regards Peter Wharton -----Original Message----- From: snape@cix.co.uk [mailto:snape@cix.co.uk] Sent: 30 March 2006 15:54 To: ENG-BLACK-COUNTRY-L@rootsweb.com Subject: [B.C.] Free BMD Is there anything available on Free BMD that is not now available on the various pay-Websites (1837 Online, etc.)? Ron S -------------------------------------------------------------------- mail2web - Check your email from the web at http://mail2web.com/ . ==== ENG-BLACK-COUNTRY Mailing List ==== The B.C. List Admin is Dave Ogden :- d.ogden@blueyonder.co.uk

As this is non geneaological I hope people will forgive me taking this opportunity to publicise an exhibition of Black Country Poetry produced by Spectrum Poets at Dudley Archive Department. If you are visiting the record ffice at Coseley over the next couple of weeks please take time to take a look. For those who enjoy the exhibition there is an anthology of some of the poems that can be purchased for £3.50 Thank you for your patience. Yours Sincerely Andrew Pardoe

Hi Listers. I am researching the name Beardsmore from the Gornal area, Josiah born 1791. Does any one have access to the Sedgley parish records. I would like know to his Father's name and if he had any siblings. Thank you Linda --------------------------------- Yahoo! Messenger NEW - crystal clear PC to PC calling worldwide with voicemail

Is there anything available on Free BMD that is not now available on the various pay-Websites (1837 Online, etc.)? Ron S -------------------------------------------------------------------- mail2web - Check your email from the web at http://mail2web.com/ .

Does anyone know the origin of "on the box", meaning claiming sickness (or incapacity) benefit? David in Brierley Hill

This project might interest some of the more linguisticaly inclined amongst us. http://www.leeds.ac.uk/english/activities/lavc/ Ron S -------------------------------------------------------------------- mail2web - Check your email from the web at http://mail2web.com/ .

to Gamekeeper chasers, and all that has come back - probably bagged more than the shooters Thanks again, Jilly

Hi listers Latest additions to the Sedgleymanor website. I've just uploaded a scanned copy (36 pages) of a booklet given to all employees of Cannon Iron Foundries of Coseley to celebrate their Centenary in 1926. Many thanks to Jill LOACH for scanning all the pages. Apparently all 850 employees were taken to Blackpool by train for a "slap-up" dinner for the celebrations. A nice little touch... "As they left the dinner each man was presented with cigarettes and the ladies with boxes of chocolates." Scanned booklet at http://www.sedgleymanor.com/gallery/thumbnails.php?album=24 A brief History of Cannon at http://www.sedgleymanor.com/trades/cannon.html All the best Ian -- Ian Beach Bunbury, Western Australia ian@sedgleymanor.com Website "The Ancient Manor of Sedgley" in Staffordshire at http://www.sedgleymanor.com Listowner ENG-STS-SEDGLEY at http://lists.rootsweb.com/index/intl/ENG/ENG-STS-SEDGLEY.html Researching: Sedgley, Staffordshire : ADDIS(S), BEACH, CASWELL, GUTT(E)RIDGE, HOPKINS, FLAVELL, MILLARD & TURLEY Darlaston, Staffordshire : FOSTER, ORME & YATES Shropshire : ADDIS(S), BEACH, CASWELL

From the main Outlook screen (not the one you see when you are reading/writing an email), take a gander at the options on the View Menu. Current View, Preview, Auto-Preview are relevant options to use the Outlook Help tool for lessons. I avoid taking auto-preview options because that used to be a common way start an email worm. Bob Oceanside Calif.

Hope you are all well. I cannot connect. Mail is being blocked. Still searching for FEREDAY, PREECE< WHITEHOUSE. Wanda Lee