>>Oh I am SOOOOOO pleased you enjoyed it.<< translated that means wuf DID NOT ENJOY being shouted from across the hall! My heart bleeds! >>I did too, despite the embarrassment of being with the Walsall nutter for >>a while.<< you were so HONOURED to have my presence admit it!! >><Then she had the nerve to inform me that she's coming to visit next week. >>I daren't tell Mick or he'll arrange to be out. LOL<<< He'll know, LOL he will hear the music as I drive through Bridgenorth LOL as He always tells me he can hear me from there ROTFL >>>BTW I cor remember ow to spake like wot ar useta The Shropshire accent >>>tends to take over these days<<<< So many Sheep, so Little time eh? ROTFLMFAO Mellie How Come My Coat Of Arms Has Buckles At The Back?

The comment about formal adoption being a comparatively new concept is true, but if you are lucky you might find mention of informal adoption in a baptismal register. At the church I attend here in Scotland there is an entry in the Baptism Register which reads "I feel it is important to record that Mr & Mrs A are the adoptive parents of the child, the natural father Mr B having given the child into the care of Mr & Mrs A following the death of his wife in childbirth. signed William Lumsden Walker (Priest)" Obviously I have not shown the names of the parties, but I am sure if anyone who was a descendent came and asked they would be shown the register. Ted ----- Original Message ----- From: <snape@cix.co.uk> To: <ENG-BLACK-COUNTRY-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Monday, April 10, 2006 8:58 AM Subject: RE: [B.C.] re adoption >> is their name removed from the Birth > Registers and replaced by their adopted name? > > No. The original entry remains intact. > > A new entry is made for the adoptive "birth" with the new "parents". The > adoption register is a separate register. The indexes to it (at the FRC) > are also in a separate section. If you apply for a certificate from the > Adopted index you will not find any reference on the certificate to the > orignal name. Bear in mind that formal adoption is a comparatively recent > concept (post 1900?). > > But it could be worth a look in the Adopted index. > > Other possibilites (with separate registers) are: > > born overseas (expat), > military, > Scotland, > Ireland > > My own approach to the seemingly intractable problem of a missing Birth > Regisration (c. 1843) was eventually to get the siblings either side from > Census info (I had to wait for a new census to be published!) and then > track the siblings, both of whom were registered. > > If you are not too far from London, treat yourself to a day out. A day's > research at the FRC, possibly a day when an interesting lecture is being > given, and a visit to the theatre or show in the evening. > > Ron S > > Original Message: > ----------------- > From: AYorkie19@aol.com > Date: Sat, 8 Apr 2006 12:44:23 EDT > To: ENG-BLACK-COUNTRY-L@rootsweb.com > Subject: [B.C.] re adoption > > > What happens when a person is adopted - is their name removed from the > Birth > Registers and replaced by their adopted name? > > I have been searching for a KNOWN NAME in the Beta B.M.D. or Ancestory and > cannot find it. > > Yorkie > > > ==== ENG-BLACK-COUNTRY Mailing List ==== > The Assistant List Admins are Jean Morgan and Jan Ross > (Couldn't do it without those two great ladies) > > > > -------------------------------------------------------------------- > mail2web - Check your email from the web at > http://mail2web.com/ . > > > > > ==== ENG-BLACK-COUNTRY Mailing List ==== > The Assistant List Admins are Jean Morgan and Jan Ross > (Couldn't do it without those two great ladies) > > > > -- > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG Free Edition. > Version: 7.1.385 / Virus Database: 268.4.0/304 - Release Date: 07/04/2006 > >

On 09 Apr, cassy <cassyfranklin@blueyonder.co.uk> wrote: > Hi All its been quite you say I have been that busy I have had some > wonderful news , after years a cousin of mine has been in touch from my > Franklin/Whitehouse side She also sent me pictures of my gr grandparents > Emily and Thomas Franklin has well has my granddads sisters who I meet > when I was very little and other family picture She aslo sent me a > picture of my grandmothers sister Esther and her son and the only Esther > at Oldbury with a sister Emily is with a father William I also knew know > that Baby Carroll proper name was Alice Maud Franklin and they lived > right by Jack Judge who wrote Tipperary also I know have documented > proof that Baby Carroll was the first person to sing this song when he > first wrote it and she was five years old , and when she was on stage > she was always asked to sing it Cassy Cassy, yome a treasure! I'm so pleased for you. Wonderful news! -- Chris Ramsbottom researching: BARRATT, DANCER, FELLOWS, GOODES, ROBINSON, TUCKLEY, WHEWAY MAHER all in and around Birmingham/Smethwick, 1850 to present day

Oh I am SOOOOOO pleased you enjoyed it. I did too, despite the embarrassment of being with the Walsall nutter for a while. Then she had the nerve to inform me that she's coming to visit next week. I daren't tell Mick or he'll arrange to be out. LOL BTW I cor remember ow to spake like wot ar useta The Shropshire accent tends to take over these days Wolfie...................the quiet one -----Original Message----- From: Mellie [mailto:chouikh2006@btinternet.com] Sent: Sunday, April 09, 2006 4:43 PM To: ENG-BLACK-COUNTRY-L@rootsweb.com Subject: [B.C.] My, we are quiet to day! now y'all cant be at Dunstall, cos I wudda sin ya! we ad a gud toime, well ar ad a gud toime LOL it was great to catch up with Mick Mc at last LOL but then he dissapeared, yow dow think e wos avoidin me d'ya? me muvva run away but ar found her! dutifully I stud one end of dunstall and called er at the ovva LOL Poor ole wuflie will never live it darn ROTFL every toime ar called er, folks wos lookin like i was some sorta nutta! quite a few folk seemt to know who i wos LOL and that buddy Ron Oneill med me wear a sticker so e day atta keep tellin people where i wos! e ay a lotta use as an infermershun post! he ay a lotta use full stop LOL i wos dead gud behaved anorl i wos! Trust me, THAT was behavin ROTFL an Ron I still got a red rash on me chest off the sticker!!!! ~ DOW ASK! Mellie How Come My Coat Of Arms Has Buckles At The Back? ==== ENG-BLACK-COUNTRY Mailing List ==== The B.C. List Admin is Dave Ogden :- d.ogden@blueyonder.co.uk -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.385 / Virus Database: 268.4.0/305 - Release Date: 08/04/2006 -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.385 / Virus Database: 268.4.0/306 - Release Date: 09/04/2006

It is certainly worth a look at Kew, if you can get someone to do a search. Not all the records are burnt or missing. I found a very full account of my grandfather (although I was lucky) together with a brother, a cousin and (I think) a nephew. It sounds as though he would have had a (small) pension if he did indeed die of his wounds. You have the Regiment and his Service No (although he may well have had more than one number during the course of the war). Did he have any brothers or cousins that you might be able to identify? Personally, I think that you are in with a better than average chance at Kew. Ron S Original Message: ----------------- From: Graham Stanley graham_stanley@tiscali.co.uk Date: Sun, 9 Apr 2006 11:06:54 +0100 To: ENG-BLACK-COUNTRY-L@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [B.C.] James Bridge Cemetery, Darlaston query Ian Next of kin is sometimes given on the CWGC Roll of Honour when it has been specified, so you are unfortunate in that respect. It is the first world war medal index which is available on-line, rather than the service records, but they do not give much information beyond the information you already have and don't give next of kin. As Fiona says, the service records are at Kew but are far from being complete, thanks to German incendiary bombs falling on the War Office record store where they were kept in 1940. The records are in two series - one for the burnt documents and one for pensions files which were kept to help supplement the lost files - on microfilm and not indexed but arranged in a rough alpha order. Looking through them can be a real pain, especially as you are never sure that the records are going to be there or have just been misfiled. Sorry to pour cold water on the idea but I think the idea of someone doing the search for you is a bit unlikely, especially with a common name like Bates and only an initial for a first name. I think you might be better looking for obituary notices for him in the local paper; they can sometimes be a mine of useful genealogical information. Best wishes Graham ----- Original Message ----- From: <FCASKEY@aol.com> To: <ENG-BLACK-COUNTRY-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Sunday, April 09, 2006 9:59 AM Subject: [B.C.] James Bridge Cemetery, Darlaston query > Ian, > If you can get anyone to look in Kew - sorry National Archives on London > you > may be lucky and James's records may be there. Remember that a lost were > lost in the 2nd WW. > _http://www.nationalarchives.gov.uk/_ > (http://www.nationalarchives.gov.uk/) > I'm not sure if the service records are online or just campaign medals, > but > I'm sure that for a charge they would do a search for you. > I cannot remember what you get on the English records as most of WW1 > records I have are for people in Canadian regiments and they provide > Addresses and > next of Kin etc. > Sorry I cannot help any more > Fiona Caskey > > X-Message: #1 > Date: Sat, 08 Apr 2006 16:26:00 +0800 > From: Ian Beach <ian@sedgleymanor.com> > To: ENG-BLACK-COUNTRY-L@rootsweb.com > Message-ID: <44377398.5090401@sedgleymanor.com> > Subject: James Bridge Cemetery, Darlaston query > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed > Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit > > Hi folks > > Does some kind soul out there have access to the James Bridge Cemetery in > Darlaston or details of the War Dead buried there? > > I'm trying to find more details of a T.BATES who is buried there. > According > to > the Commonwealth War Graves site he was a Private of the 26th Battalion > King's > Liverpool Regiment. Service number 406664 and he was buried there on the > 6 > Feb > 1921. The Grave reference is D134. > > Due the fact that he was buried well after the War finished I presume he > died of > injuries suffered in the conflict. His link on the CWGC site is > http://www.cwgc.org/search/casualty_details.aspx?casualty=395008 > > What I'm trying to find is if there are any more details such as next of > kin > etc. > > Any help would be most appreciated > > Ian > > > > > ==== ENG-BLACK-COUNTRY Mailing List ==== > The Assistant List Admins are Jean Morgan and Jan Ross > (Couldn't do it without those two great ladies) > > ==== ENG-BLACK-COUNTRY Mailing List ==== Wherever possible (except for personal messages) please post replies to the list.Other people can learn from them! -------------------------------------------------------------------- mail2web - Check your email from the web at http://mail2web.com/ .

> is their name removed from the Birth Registers and replaced by their adopted name? No. The original entry remains intact. A new entry is made for the adoptive "birth" with the new "parents". The adoption register is a separate register. The indexes to it (at the FRC) are also in a separate section. If you apply for a certificate from the Adopted index you will not find any reference on the certificate to the orignal name. Bear in mind that formal adoption is a comparatively recent concept (post 1900?). But it could be worth a look in the Adopted index. Other possibilites (with separate registers) are: born overseas (expat), military, Scotland, Ireland My own approach to the seemingly intractable problem of a missing Birth Regisration (c. 1843) was eventually to get the siblings either side from Census info (I had to wait for a new census to be published!) and then track the siblings, both of whom were registered. If you are not too far from London, treat yourself to a day out. A day's research at the FRC, possibly a day when an interesting lecture is being given, and a visit to the theatre or show in the evening. Ron S Original Message: ----------------- From: AYorkie19@aol.com Date: Sat, 8 Apr 2006 12:44:23 EDT To: ENG-BLACK-COUNTRY-L@rootsweb.com Subject: [B.C.] re adoption What happens when a person is adopted - is their name removed from the Birth Registers and replaced by their adopted name? I have been searching for a KNOWN NAME in the Beta B.M.D. or Ancestory and cannot find it. Yorkie ==== ENG-BLACK-COUNTRY Mailing List ==== The Assistant List Admins are Jean Morgan and Jan Ross (Couldn't do it without those two great ladies) -------------------------------------------------------------------- mail2web - Check your email from the web at http://mail2web.com/ .

one simple answer , my husband wont take me but did you mention hats I love hats big ones with lots of feathers , trouble is my dogs like to eat them and there are feathers all over the place and I start screaming thinking the cats have killed a bird (vbg) Cassy ----- Original Message ----- From: "Mellie" <chouikh2006@btinternet.com> To: "cassy" <cassyfranklin@blueyonder.co.uk>; <ENG-BLACK-COUNTRY-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Sunday, April 09, 2006 9:43 PM Subject: Re: [B.C.] Family news > that Baby Carroll was the first person to sing this song when he first > wrote > it and she was five > years old , and when she was on stage she was always asked to sing it > Cassy > > > COOL !!!!! its great when someone makes contact and there is meat for the > bones!!!! > how come you wern't at the fair today supportin the BC then huh? > we cudda wore our hats LOL > Mellie > How Come My Coat Of Arms Has Buckles At The Back? > >

that Baby Carroll was the first person to sing this song when he first wrote it and she was five years old , and when she was on stage she was always asked to sing it Cassy COOL !!!!! its great when someone makes contact and there is meat for the bones!!!! how come you wern't at the fair today supportin the BC then huh? we cudda wore our hats LOL Mellie How Come My Coat Of Arms Has Buckles At The Back?

> >>quite a few folk seemt to know who i wos LOL R an quite a few stall holders asked me who the nutter was annall :0))) an I ay jokin'.<<<<< They day, they wos on abart me muvva! > and that buddy Ron Oneill med me wear a sticker so e day atta keep tellin people where i wos! an Ron I still got a red rash on me chest off the sticker!!!! ~ DOW ASK! R day mek ya wear anything yow stuck it on your boobies, it ay my fault yow got sensitive boobies an the glus gid yer a rash. LOL.<<< yow did yow liar, yow gid me the perpa AND a pen and when i ripped the fost un yow gid me anuvva! >> An mar missus agrees wi' yer, 'er reckons I'm as much use as a chocolate taypot. LOL<< see, uvva than marryin yow shes got sense that one lol >>Anyroad me an' the gaffer had a great day an it was all the better for seein' yow an yer mom Wolfie LOL. Wolfie (Mells mom) day 'alf look different when 'ers all dressed up proper, ar nearly day recognise 'er.<< hers bustin a gut now everybody knows hers me muvva lol Mellie How Come My Coat Of Arms Has Buckles At The Back?

Hi All its been quite you say I have been that busy I have had some wonderful news , after years a cousin of mine has been in touch from my Franklin/Whitehouse side She also sent me pictures of my gr grandparents Emily and Thomas Franklin has well has my granddads sisters who I meet when I was very little and other family picture She aslo sent me a picture of my grandmothers sister Esther and her son and the only Esther at Oldbury with a sister Emily is with a father William I also knew know that Baby Carroll proper name was Alice Maud Franklin and they lived right by Jack Judge who wrote Tipperary also I know have documented proof that Baby Carroll was the first person to sing this song when he first wrote it and she was five years old , and when she was on stage she was always asked to sing it Cassy

> quite a few folk seemt to know who i wos LOL > R an quite a few stall holders asked me who the nutter was annall :0))) an I ay jokin'. > and that buddy Ron Oneill med me wear a sticker so e day atta keep tellin > people where i wos! > an Ron I still got a red rash on me chest off the sticker!!!! ~ DOW ASK! R day mek ya wear anything yow stuck it on your boobies, it ay my fault yow got sensitive boobies an the glus gid yer a rash. LOL. > e ay a lotta use as an infermershun post! he ay a lotta use full stop LOL > My stall sells charts I ay an inforamtion stall ya know, the GRO was there for that. An mar missus agrees wi' yer, 'er reckons I'm as much use as a chocolate taypot. LOL Anyroad me an' the gaffer had a great day an it was all the better for seein' yow an yer mom Wolfie LOL. Wolfie (Mells mom) day 'alf look different when 'ers all dressed up proper, ar nearly day recognise 'er. Best Wishes Ron O'Neill (on Carols computer) www.genealogyprinters.com

now y'all cant be at Dunstall, cos I wudda sin ya! we ad a gud toime, well ar ad a gud toime LOL it was great to catch up with Mick Mc at last LOL but then he dissapeared, yow dow think e wos avoidin me d'ya? me muvva run away but ar found her! dutifully I stud one end of dunstall and called er at the ovva LOL Poor ole wuflie will never live it darn ROTFL every toime ar called er, folks wos lookin like i was some sorta nutta! quite a few folk seemt to know who i wos LOL and that buddy Ron Oneill med me wear a sticker so e day atta keep tellin people where i wos! e ay a lotta use as an infermershun post! he ay a lotta use full stop LOL i wos dead gud behaved anorl i wos! Trust me, THAT was behavin ROTFL an Ron I still got a red rash on me chest off the sticker!!!! ~ DOW ASK! Mellie How Come My Coat Of Arms Has Buckles At The Back?

Ian Next of kin is sometimes given on the CWGC Roll of Honour when it has been specified, so you are unfortunate in that respect. It is the first world war medal index which is available on-line, rather than the service records, but they do not give much information beyond the information you already have and don't give next of kin. As Fiona says, the service records are at Kew but are far from being complete, thanks to German incendiary bombs falling on the War Office record store where they were kept in 1940. The records are in two series - one for the burnt documents and one for pensions files which were kept to help supplement the lost files - on microfilm and not indexed but arranged in a rough alpha order. Looking through them can be a real pain, especially as you are never sure that the records are going to be there or have just been misfiled. Sorry to pour cold water on the idea but I think the idea of someone doing the search for you is a bit unlikely, especially with a common name like Bates and only an initial for a first name. I think you might be better looking for obituary notices for him in the local paper; they can sometimes be a mine of useful genealogical information. Best wishes Graham ----- Original Message ----- From: <FCASKEY@aol.com> To: <ENG-BLACK-COUNTRY-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Sunday, April 09, 2006 9:59 AM Subject: [B.C.] James Bridge Cemetery, Darlaston query > Ian, > If you can get anyone to look in Kew - sorry National Archives on London > you > may be lucky and James's records may be there. Remember that a lost were > lost in the 2nd WW. > _http://www.nationalarchives.gov.uk/_ > (http://www.nationalarchives.gov.uk/) > I'm not sure if the service records are online or just campaign medals, > but > I'm sure that for a charge they would do a search for you. > I cannot remember what you get on the English records as most of WW1 > records I have are for people in Canadian regiments and they provide > Addresses and > next of Kin etc. > Sorry I cannot help any more > Fiona Caskey > > X-Message: #1 > Date: Sat, 08 Apr 2006 16:26:00 +0800 > From: Ian Beach <ian@sedgleymanor.com> > To: ENG-BLACK-COUNTRY-L@rootsweb.com > Message-ID: <44377398.5090401@sedgleymanor.com> > Subject: James Bridge Cemetery, Darlaston query > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed > Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit > > Hi folks > > Does some kind soul out there have access to the James Bridge Cemetery in > Darlaston or details of the War Dead buried there? > > I'm trying to find more details of a T.BATES who is buried there. > According > to > the Commonwealth War Graves site he was a Private of the 26th Battalion > King's > Liverpool Regiment. Service number 406664 and he was buried there on the > 6 > Feb > 1921. The Grave reference is D134. > > Due the fact that he was buried well after the War finished I presume he > died of > injuries suffered in the conflict. His link on the CWGC site is > http://www.cwgc.org/search/casualty_details.aspx?casualty=395008 > > What I'm trying to find is if there are any more details such as next of > kin > etc. > > Any help would be most appreciated > > Ian > > > > > ==== ENG-BLACK-COUNTRY Mailing List ==== > The Assistant List Admins are Jean Morgan and Jan Ross > (Couldn't do it without those two great ladies) > >

Ian, If you can get anyone to look in Kew - sorry National Archives on London you may be lucky and James's records may be there. Remember that a lost were lost in the 2nd WW. _http://www.nationalarchives.gov.uk/_ (http://www.nationalarchives.gov.uk/) I'm not sure if the service records are online or just campaign medals, but I'm sure that for a charge they would do a search for you. I cannot remember what you get on the English records as most of WW1 records I have are for people in Canadian regiments and they provide Addresses and next of Kin etc. Sorry I cannot help any more Fiona Caskey X-Message: #1 Date: Sat, 08 Apr 2006 16:26:00 +0800 From: Ian Beach <ian@sedgleymanor.com> To: ENG-BLACK-COUNTRY-L@rootsweb.com Message-ID: <44377398.5090401@sedgleymanor.com> Subject: James Bridge Cemetery, Darlaston query Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hi folks Does some kind soul out there have access to the James Bridge Cemetery in Darlaston or details of the War Dead buried there? I'm trying to find more details of a T.BATES who is buried there. According to the Commonwealth War Graves site he was a Private of the 26th Battalion King's Liverpool Regiment. Service number 406664 and he was buried there on the 6 Feb 1921. The Grave reference is D134. Due the fact that he was buried well after the War finished I presume he died of injuries suffered in the conflict. His link on the CWGC site is http://www.cwgc.org/search/casualty_details.aspx?casualty=395008 What I'm trying to find is if there are any more details such as next of kin etc. Any help would be most appreciated Ian

Yorkie: There isn't really such a thing as a known name, nor a known date - and you need both to find a birth registration. There are various possible reasons why you can't find someone where you *know* they ought to be in the indexes, for example: - The person's real date of birth was different from what you think; - The birth was registered in the quarter after the event (or even later); - The person's name at birth was different from what you've been told - The person was illegitimate and registered under the mother's maiden name - There's been a transcription error at some stage between the registration of the birth and the GRO indexes. Most people are actually there in the GRO records - somewhere. Best wishes and good luck Paul Prescott ----- Original Message ----- From: <AYorkie19@aol.com> To: <ENG-BLACK-COUNTRY-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Saturday, April 08, 2006 5:44 PM Subject: [B.C.] re adoption > What happens when a person is adopted - is their name removed from the > Birth > Registers and replaced by their adopted name? > > I have been searching for a KNOWN NAME in the Beta B.M.D. or Ancestory and > cannot find it. > > Yorkie > > > ==== ENG-BLACK-COUNTRY Mailing List ==== > The Assistant List Admins are Jean Morgan and Jan Ross > (Couldn't do it without those two great ladies) > >

What happens when a person is adopted - is their name removed from the Birth Registers and replaced by their adopted name? I have been searching for a KNOWN NAME in the Beta B.M.D. or Ancestory and cannot find it. Yorkie i think a new entry is made as a new birth certificate is issued with the new name! but thats in recnet times! Mellie How Come My Coat Of Arms Has Buckles At The Back?

A couple of days ago I asked if someone would do a look up at the Archives for the marriage of John PUGH and Martha PEAKMAN. This is just to say that I now have the information. Many thanks to Brian. Maureen

Hi folks Does some kind soul out there have access to the James Bridge Cemetery in Darlaston or details of the War Dead buried there? I'm trying to find more details of a T.BATES who is buried there. According to the Commonwealth War Graves site he was a Private of the 26th Battalion King's Liverpool Regiment. Service number 406664 and he was buried there on the 6 Feb 1921. The Grave reference is D134. Due the fact that he was buried well after the War finished I presume he died of injuries suffered in the conflict. His link on the CWGC site is http://www.cwgc.org/search/casualty_details.aspx?casualty=395008 What I'm trying to find is if there are any more details such as next of kin etc. Any help would be most appreciated Ian -- Ian Beach Bunbury, Western Australia ian@sedgleymanor.com Website "The Ancient Manor of Sedgley" in Staffordshire at http://www.sedgleymanor.com Listowner ENG-STS-SEDGLEY at http://lists.rootsweb.com/index/intl/ENG/ENG-STS-SEDGLEY.html Researching: Sedgley, Staffordshire : ADDIS(S), BEACH, CASWELL, GUTT(E)RIDGE, HOPKINS, FLAVELL, MILLARD & TURLEY Darlaston, Staffordshire : FOSTER, ORME & YATES Shropshire : ADDIS(S), BEACH, CASWELL

What happens when a person is adopted - is their name removed from the Birth Registers and replaced by their adopted name? I have been searching for a KNOWN NAME in the Beta B.M.D. or Ancestory and cannot find it. Yorkie

Hi folks Does some kind soul out there have access to the James Bridge Cemetery in Darlaston or details of the War Dead buried there? I'm trying to find more details of a T.BATES who is buried there. According to the Commonwealth War Graves site he was a Private of the 26th Battalion King's Liverpool Regiment. Service number 406664 and he was buried there on the 6 Feb 1921. The Grave reference is D134. What I'm trying to find is if there are any more details such as next of kin etc. Any help would be most appreciated Ian Ian, last time I had a walk around there, the CW graves, that I looked at were the standard white ones with just the name and date and regiment info, no next of kin, I dont have a plan of the cemetary, so cant go looking for you, I am too time challenged I am sorry, but I am taking my car to the jet wash close by so will have a quick look for you later today. the records for the cemetary are held at Walsall history centre, they might be able to help. james Bridge is the border of walsall and darlaston, where is your guy from? it could be a couple of areas in walsall or that side of darlaston. you can have a look at where the cemetary is on streetmap, the street to put in is bentley mill way, the cemetary itself is, beleive it or not in cemetary road! BUT there are lots of cemetary roads LOL so look for bentley mill way, cemetary at one end, me just a bot further off the other LOL actually here is the link, the cemetary is bottom right of the map, I am the other side of wolverhampton road, top middle. http://www.streetmap.co.uk/newmap.srf?x=398929&y=298260&z=1&sv=bentley+mill+way&st=6&tl=Bentley+Mill+Way,+Walsall,+WS2&searchp=newsearch.srf&mapp=newmap.srf Mellie How Come My Coat Of Arms Has Buckles At The Back?